CM Clay Discussion 30:: Our Main Clay Discussion Thread (All Members Welcome)

[Sundancer]

I'm wondering what he looks like, too, Gwenn.  For all we know, he could be a brunette again.

With dredlocks!

[claydevotee]

Help, I'm trapped in the land of Facebook!!!!    Please rescue me.    And it looks like several of you are getting to that point, as well.   

Gotta go run some errands, so at least that will get me away from the computer for a while....

[GWENN]

GOT A LOT DONE TODAY.  ALL THE GIFTS I HAVE BEEN NEEDING ARE BOUGHT. 

MY FRIENDS ARE THE BEST.

GWENN

[WilsonClaymate]

Clay answered a few more questions at the OFC tonight -- start at 9753

[GWENN]

THANKS, BARB.  INTERESTING ANSWERS.

GWENN

[WilsonClaymate]

THANKS, BARB.  INTERESTING ANSWERS.

GWENN

Some of them were.  I guess he just wants to keep us confused

[GWENN]

I AM GLAD WE FINALLY KNOW THAT TITN WASN'T RELEASED CAUSE THE LABEL DIDN'T WANT IT, NOT CLAY.  I JUST LOVE HIS CANDOR.

GWENN

[Sundancer]

That answer about music videos seemed stilted to me--a little too practiced, maybe. I think he'd accept being in Top 40 radio just fine if he wound up there.


Chocolate cake and pickles? He is one strange bird.

[GWENN]

YEAH, SUNNY.  FIRST I THOUGHT HE WAS ALLERGIC TO CHOCOLATE.  SEEMS THAT PASSED WHICH ALLERGIES MANY TIMES DO.  BUT PICKLES AND CAKE?  HIS WHOLE FAMILY EATS IT?  JUST DISGUSTING.

WHAT INTERESTED ME MOST ABOUT THE TITN VIDEO ANSWER IS THAT IS DEFINITELY CONFIRMS WHAT SO MANY OF US HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT RCA SABOTAGING HIS CAREER.  HE LOOKED HOT IN THAT VIDEO.  SULKY AND EDGY.  BUILT GREAT.  A LITTLE GAY? MAYBE BUT NOT ENOUGH TO TURN OFF YOUNG GIRLS.  HE LOOKED YOUNG AND WITH IT.  NOT ENOUGH AI?  WELL, WHOSE NAME COMES TO MIND---MR OLD FART DAVIS.  FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, CLAY HAD AN UPHILL BATTLE WITH THEM.  SUCH A SHAME.

VIDEOS?  I THINK HE KNOWS THAT HE ISN'T EVER GONNA SELL LIKE HE DID YEARS AGO AND IF THE ARTIST HAS TO PAY FOR THE VIDEO, IT IS NOT COST EFFECTIVE FOR HIM.  COUNTRY STILL SHOWS VIDEOS A LOT, BUT I AM NOT SO SURE WITH POP. HONESTLY, WHO KNOWS?  CLAY COULD CHANGE HIS MIND ON A DIME.  HE DOES THAT A LOT.  FOR WHAT HE WAS GIVEN FROM RCA, IT PROBABLY DIDN'T MAKE FINANCIAL SENSE TO MAKE A "STORY" VIDEO.

WE WILL SEE.

GWENN

[Marilyn]

So-nobody missed me? <sniff>

My computer at home is infected. My printer is broken. and needs parts Someone in New Jersey made a charge on my check card last week - so I had to cancel and get a new one.

A week ago Saturday I got a small cut on my ankle. It got infected. I finally went to the podiatrist yesterday and got yelled at- its cellulitis (Philly, you were correct!!!) He came at me with the scalpel and tweezers and cut out some of the infection.  I have antibiotics.

It has been a horrible week.

Except- yay for Clay on Decca. I love his sense of humor with the questions.

I am posting at work and I really should not be- so, catch you later.

[Marilyn]

That answer about music videos seemed stilted to me--a little too practiced, maybe. I think he'd accept being in Top 40 radio just fine if he wound up there.

I agree totally. I think if any of his newer work ended up there he would be very happy. I believe he wanted to in the beginning but RCA hampered him in so many ways that he lowered his expectations in order to not be unhappy- or to "fail" in reaching that list.

[GWENN]

That answer about music videos seemed stilted to me--a little too practiced, maybe. I think he'd accept being in Top 40 radio just fine if he wound up there.

I agree totally. I think if any of his newer work ended up there he would be very happy. I believe he wanted to in the beginning but RCA hampered him in so many ways that he lowered his expectations in order to not be unhappy- or to "fail" in reaching that list.

I TOTALLY AGREE.  CLAY HAS A DEFENSE MECHANISM WHERE HE ALTERS HIS FEELINGS TO PROTECT HIMSELF.  JUST LIKE HE TOLD DIANE SAWYER A SIMILAR KIND OF THING--CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT WORDS---ABOUT BEING GAY.  SHE CALLED HIM ON IT AND HE WAS VERY DEFENSIVE AND THAT STUPID GIGGLE HAPPENED.  ER USED TO DO THIS.  MY BROTHER DOES ALSO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE GAY ISSUE.  IT IS JUST SELF DEFENSE. 

BTW--I DID MISS YOU MARILYN.

[wvclayfan]

VIDEOS?  I THINK HE KNOWS THAT HE ISN'T EVER GONNA SELL LIKE HE DID YEARS AGO AND IF THE ARTIST HAS TO PAY FOR THE VIDEO, IT IS NOT COST EFFECTIVE FOR HIM.  COUNTRY STILL SHOWS VIDEOS A LOT, BUT I AM NOT SO SURE WITH POP. HONESTLY, WHO KNOWS?  CLAY COULD CHANGE HIS MIND ON A DIME.  HE DOES THAT A LOT.  FOR WHAT HE WAS GIVEN FROM RCA, IT PROBABLY DIDN'T MAKE FINANCIAL SENSE TO MAKE A "STORY" VIDEO.

I think pop videos went out long ago, even before TRL went off the air. Artists still make them (Rob Thomas' newest one comes to mind), but the most effective medium to show them isn't television anymore - it's YouTube, iTunes, etc. I'm not sure they're cost effective - no matter who's paying for them. Throw that money into another form of promotion.

That answer about music videos seemed stilted to me--a little too practiced, maybe. I think he'd accept being in Top 40 radio just fine if he wound up there.

I agree totally. I think if any of his newer work ended up there he would be very happy. I believe he wanted to in the beginning but RCA hampered him in so many ways that he lowered his expectations in order to not be unhappy- or to "fail" in reaching that list.

Couldn't agree more.

[corbet]

 
   Marilyn,
                 You must have missed my recent post. I did ask about your leg.

                  See you are missed!!!
                 
                                                                Betty

[Moonshot]

Chocolate cake and pickles? He is one strange bird.

I've heard Faye has said it's a southern thing. Several of the little 'ol ladies at church do it. I've tried it and just think it's a gross thing.

[WilsonClaymate]

I'm southern and I like chocolate cake .... and pickles.

BUT NOT TOGETHER   

[claydevotee]

Peanut butter and pickles...maybe.  Pickles in potato or egg salad....yes.  Chocolate cake with pickles.....not a chance.

[Sundancer]

Chocolate cake and pickles? He is one strange bird.

I've heard Faye has said it's a southern thing. Several of the little 'ol ladies at church do it. I've tried it and just think it's a gross thing.

I figured it had to be a southern thang. But yikes! It's like the entire south is pregnant.

[GWENN]

HI Y'ALL.

I HAD A WONDERFUL EVENING.  REMEMBER CHRISTIE?  WELL, WE TRY TO SEE EACH OTHER AT LEAST EVERY 6 WEEKS.  WE DID TONIGHT AND HAD A VERY ENJOYABLE EVENING.  REMEMBERING SOME WONDERFUL CLAY TIMES.  LAUGHING AND HOPING FOR MORE GOOD TIMES TO COME.

THIS MAN HAS BROUGHT SO MUCH  JOY TO SO MANY OF US.  I LOVE HIM.

BARRY WAS GREAT ABOUT IT ALL.  HE GETS IT.

SO MUCH TO DO TOMORROW MORNING.  OFF TO  NYC AND THE HAMPTONS TOMORROW.

LIFE CAN BE SO GOOD.

GWENN

[Sundancer]

BARRY WAS GREAT ABOUT IT ALL.  HE GETS IT.

Ya gotta love Barry: "My wife's in love with some gay guy who eats pickles with dessert and sings once in a while. What's not to get?"