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Title: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Pamela on June 27, 2008, 06:40:32 PM
Welcome to CM Discussion number 25.  This is the official Clay discussion thread at Claymaniacs.com. 

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Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: As Long As We're Here... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: aikenseeker on June 27, 2008, 06:43:31 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Am I firstest?

LOL! :hugg :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on June 27, 2008, 06:48:51 PM
HEY PAMELA AND CLANDY


Thanks for our new meeting place


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on June 27, 2008, 07:05:04 PM
OMIGAWD!! FIRST PAGE!!!

I am so very proud of what Clay is doing with his life- taking care of the things that matter. I definitely think that the thread title is appropriate.

And Gwenn- your friend is wise-I totally agree with her!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: aikenseeker on June 27, 2008, 07:36:54 PM
marilyn!

 :hugg :wave


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on June 27, 2008, 07:43:04 PM
Have any of you seen the new pictures of the cast of Spamalot..The new King,  Patsy and TLOTL....  it just looks strange...I wonder how the ticket sales have been since the new cast members have joined?

I like the new title : On His Own Terms   That would make a catchy new song title. :giggle


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on June 27, 2008, 08:06:03 PM
I LIKE THE THREAD TITLE ALSO.  I AM GONNA RELAY TO MY DEAR FRIEND ALL OF THE GOOD WORDS.  I LOVE HER LIKE A SISTER AND THAT SHE IS UNDERSTANDING CLAY BETTER THAN MANY OF US IS MIND BOGGLING.

I DON'T THINK I WANT TO SEE THE NEW SPAMAOT CAST.  IT WOULD SEEM ODD TO ME.  THAT SHOW WILL FOREVER BE CLAY'S SHOW.  HIS PREMIER ON BROADWAY.  I HOPE HE GOES BACK.  I THINK HE WILL.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on June 27, 2008, 08:20:26 PM
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HIS PREMIER ON BROADWAY.  I HOPE HE GOES BACK.  I THINK HE WILL.

GWENN, I hope so, too.   Methinks sooner or later he's going to be back on Broadway originating a role in a new musical produced by Mike Nichols.  I'm holding on tight to that hope!!!

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I like the new title : On His Own Terms   That would make a catchy new song title.

MIMI, I'd like to take that a step further and suggest they make that the title of Clay's next CD! Then SUNNY will be given a huge check for coming up with the title which she will, of course, spend on buying all of us front row seats on the next tour.!!!  :bubble

Well, I'm off for the night.  It's great to have a new CM Session courtesy of our wonderful MS PAMELA.  :hugg  Let's make this the best ever!!!!  :cheer

 :dust




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on June 27, 2008, 08:43:52 PM
I'm off   :tobed    too.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on June 27, 2008, 08:51:48 PM

It had occured to me before, that this choice (IIT) might have appealed to Clay on some level BECAUSE it was so daring.

He doesn't seem to like it that fans think they know him, and he likes to shock and surprise.

I think he's got a little bit of Madonna in him.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on June 27, 2008, 09:11:15 PM

It had occured to me before, that this choice (IIT) might have appealed to Clay on some level BECAUSE it was so daring.

He doesn't seem to like it that fans think they know him, and he likes to shock and surprise.

I think he's got a little bit of Madonna in him.

Good one, franniek54!  :rofl


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Tiffany on June 27, 2008, 09:52:37 PM
Hello fine ladies of CM. :wave Sorry to interupt but delurking to comment.

Frannie-I agree with you that Clay and Madonna have some things in common. :bigsmile People seemed to be more interested in her personal life more then her music too. Same with Clay sadly. And ofcourse they changed their hair more then anyone else. :lol

Take care and love to all and Clay. :hugg



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: LadyC on June 28, 2008, 12:28:30 AM

He doesn't seem to like it that fans think they know him, and he likes to shock and surprise.

I think he's got a little bit of Madonna in him.

Okay then ...

But if he comes out on stage somewhere in a metal bra, I'm outta here!   :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: LadyC on June 28, 2008, 12:37:54 AM

Regarding this...

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BEEDAWN wrote:
Just got a e-mail from UNICEF re: that CNN Special on 7/6/08

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As a UNICEF supporter you've shown that you want to be a close partner in the global fight to save children's lives. That means you won't want to miss a remarkable program airing on CNN on Sunday, July 6 at 8 and 11 pm (ET).

"The Survival Project: One Child at a Time" is an hour-long special that explores why, each day, more than 26,000 children die from preventable causes, and how we at UNICEF are doing whatever it takes to save young lives.

CNN's chief medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, will host the program and UNICEF Ambassador Lucy Liu will participate in a panel discussion on the issues. There will also be a special announcement of the newest celebrity Ambassador to join our ranks.

Tune in to this historic broadcast and then visit unicefusa.org to reaffirm your commitment to the fight for child survival.

Thanks—as always—for your dedication to the world's children.

Very, very cool!  I think the newest celeb ambassador is Edward James Olmos.  From his site:  

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He is an activist for children's causes and Latino charities.
He's an ambassador for UNICEF.

Don't know if he's the new one, or if that's old news.  Either way, two of my favorite guys showing the love for sweet, innocent children.  Gotta love it.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on June 28, 2008, 04:22:25 AM

  Lady C,
             You never know what he might do next. He likes to keep us on our toes and we keep
        coming back for more. My life would be awfully dull without him!!!!
                                           
                                                    Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on June 28, 2008, 04:25:36 AM
   
 Tiffany,
                   How nice to hear from you, I miss you. Don"t stay away too long.
                         Love, love Clay, today and every day.
                 
                                                                    Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on June 28, 2008, 06:26:57 AM
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I like the new title : On His Own Terms   That would make a catchy new song title.

MIMI, I'd like to take that a step further and suggest they make that the title of Clay's next CD! Then SUNNY will be given a huge check for coming up with the title which she will, of course, spend on buying all of us front row seats on the next tour.!!!  :bubble

'Sounds like a plan! :thumb


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on June 28, 2008, 06:47:26 AM
The thread title is so very appropriate. It is my feeling that Clay has always attempted to handle things on his own terms, but many fans felt that they had a right to judge Clay if "his terms" and "their terms" were not in sync.  It seems that Clay now has firmly established the fact that he will conduct his life "on his own terms".   I sure can live with that! :clap  His terms may not always make the most sense to many of us. . . but he is calling the shots. :hugg

I can hardly wait to find out what his next move will be. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on June 28, 2008, 07:12:12 AM
The thread title is so very appropriate. It is my feeling that Clay has always attempted to handle things on his own terms, but many fans felt that they had a right to judge Clay if "his terms" and "their terms" were not in sync.  It seems that Clay now has firmly established the fact that he will conduct his life "on his own terms".   I sure can live with that! :clap  His terms may not always make the most sense to many of us. . . but he is calling the shots. :hugg

I can hardly what to find out what his next move will be. :wink

PERFECTLY SAID, BARB.  IT IS HIS LIFE.  HE NEVER LIVED INSIDE THE BOX AND HE SURE ISN'T GONNA NOW.  HIS LOOK HAS CHANGED, THANK GOD, BUT HE IS STILL THAT KID FROM RALEIGH.  I SAID TO MANY THAT HE MUST HAVE BEEN A MESS TO RAISE AND TO TEACH.  HE STILL AIN'T EASY.  BUT HE IS SUCH A GOOD PERSON.

WHERE ARE THOSE SOMALIA PIX FOR HEAVEN SAKE??????

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on June 28, 2008, 07:35:37 AM
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He doesn't seem to like it that fans think they know him, and he likes to shock and surprise.

I think he's got a little bit of Madonna in him.
FRANNIE, yikes you're right! Very interesting comparison.  And sometimes, just like Madonna, I  think he enjoys playing us like a violin.  I remember an incident at Musikfest several years ago.  MARION and I were walking around the venue before the concert, and suddenly she pointed out Clay  sitting in some little building with his feet up. (Do you remember that, MARION--sometimes I get mixed up on details.  :bduh  ?) When he saw us and our "girly" reaction, he just started laughing (probably at us).  You know, I think he's got our number.  He teases us and then laughs at us when we come back for more.  Normally I wouldn't put up with that, but I do with Clay because for me it's all in fun!

 :wave KRIS, it's always good to "see" you!   :hugg  Hope you are enjoying better health these days!
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But if he comes out on stage somewhere in a metal bra, I'm outta here!    :roflmao

 :eek  :roflmao

Hope everybody has a great day.  We're taking P to  O'Hare (airport) this afternoon.  I'll miss him, but happily he'll be back on Thursday!!!!





Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on June 28, 2008, 07:51:56 AM
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FRANNIE, yikes you're right.

Clay is our James Dean, a "rebel without a cause", except........he's got some causes.   :lol

He's definately a rebel, likes to blaze new trails.  IMO that's what the NJUs like about this--he's showin some b*lls.

I think that's part of what bothered some people about this whole IIT situation.  In the past he has been perceived as a victim.  This time we can't say that at all.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: IChris1 on June 28, 2008, 07:58:57 AM
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FRANNIE, yikes you're right.

Clay is our James Dean, a "rebel without a cause", except........he's got some causes.   :lol

He's definately a rebel, likes to blaze new trails.  IMO that's what the NJUs like about this--he's showin some b*lls.

I think that's part of what bothered some people about this whole IIT situation.  In the past he has been perceived as a victim.  This time we can't say that at all.

  :yes   Frannie, he sure has some titanium ones.   That's one of the reasons we all love him so much. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on June 28, 2008, 08:15:48 AM
LADIES--I THINK I AM HOPELESS.  I JUST WATCHED Everything I Don't Need ON SESSIONS.  THAT MAN IS JUST GORGEOUS.  I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE COULD WATCH THAT AND NOT LOVE HIM.   :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on June 28, 2008, 08:20:35 AM
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LADIES--I THINK I AM HOPELESS.  I JUST WATCHED Everything I Don't Need ON SESSIONS.  THAT MAN IS JUST GORGEOUS.  I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE COULD WATCH THAT AND NOT LOVE HIM.        

GWENN

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    Frannie, he sure has some titanium ones.   That's one of the reasons we all love him so much.


GWENN and CHRIS---Yup, gotta love a guy with b#lls of titanium singing a gutsy song like Everything I Don't Need!!!!  Suddenly that song has a whole new meaning to me!!!!   :thud

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Yep!  And....if he comes out with Nudie Book and sings "Erotica" on his next tour, that is it!  I am finished too.   
 
HIPPY!   :bubble  :blush :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on June 28, 2008, 08:59:30 AM
JUST WONDERING IF ANYONE IS GETTING THE MUSICPASS.  I HAVEN'T AND WAS WAITING FOR SOMEONE WHO DID TO LET ME KNOW IF IT IS WORTH IT.

ANYONE?

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on June 28, 2008, 09:16:52 AM
There was an online news item yesterday that Vern Troyer has filed a $20,000,000 lawsuit against TMZ.  (just mentionin' -- and this may be old news -- he's probably not the only one who is denting their bottom-feeding bottom line with legal defense expenses).


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on June 28, 2008, 09:29:35 AM
LADIES--I THINK I AM HOPELESS.  I JUST WATCHED Everything I Don't Need ON SESSIONS.  THAT MAN IS JUST GORGEOUS.  I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE COULD WATCH THAT AND NOT LOVE HIM.   :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud

GWENN


I don't understand that either.  I love that song and I watched the whole AOL Session this morning.  Day by day new people are giving the CD a chance and usually they find out what we have known all along--he has an awesome voice and can sing anything.  Too bad this CD wasn't the one put out the last time -- he may not have so many obstacles to overcome. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on June 28, 2008, 09:32:53 AM
Hope everyone is well today...It looks like we are in for another hot day in Raleigh..its already 92, but the humidity is awful.

I was just checking out the Wral fm site and Clay was played again this morning...but what really amazes me is that his position has changed  on the chart,from 66 to 21 in just 3 days..  If our local newspaper would write something about his UNICEF trip to Somalia  I would think that might create more interest in his album, but we are talking about The News & Observer,and for any of you that have dealt with them ,there is the problem.    :bang

Have a great day and stay cool!!

Marlene


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on June 28, 2008, 09:35:48 AM

                              PROBLEM IS WE DO NOT KNOW IF THE BABY IS CLAYS LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS WITH NO PROOF BEING MADE STILL.

                                   ANYBODY KNOW WHAT TIME THE WEDDING IS TODAY RUBENS.  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on June 28, 2008, 09:44:56 AM
Gwenn, I bought some music passes...I read somewhere that they include a few bonus videos...of what, wasn't posted...I thought I might gift them on...

I invite you to go down memory lane and laugh with this...Aikenly Funny montage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHVedfjpnHI

ETA: Glory, just read Ruben got married today at noon.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on June 28, 2008, 09:49:55 AM
There was an online news item yesterday that Vern Troyer has filed a $20,000,000 lawsuit against TMZ. 
Yeah, I clicked on my national news site this morning, and what's the first headline to come screaming across the screen? "Vern Troyer Files Suit Against TMZ for Showing Sex Tape."

I gotta find a more reputable news site. :doh


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on June 28, 2008, 09:50:38 AM

                                   ANYBODY KNOW WHAT TIME THE WEDDING IS TODAY RUBENS.  :lol

Check your invitation, silly! :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on June 28, 2008, 10:02:20 AM

                                   ANYBODY KNOW WHAT TIME THE WEDDING IS TODAY RUBENS.  :lol

Check your invitation, silly! :wink
:lmao :lmao SUNNY

And along those same lines, I think you can still make it to the reception, GLORY!!!  Now go make yourself purdy!!!!

As to the Musicpass, call me clueless. :bduh  Thanks for the explanation, JOHANNA!!!  :hugg





Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Tiffany on June 28, 2008, 10:09:41 AM
Gwenn-It's 3 bonus videos with the MusicPass but it's not anything new. They got Invisible, The Way and 1000 Days video.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: IChris1 on June 28, 2008, 10:45:49 AM
Gwenn, I bought some music passes...I read somewhere that they include a few bonus videos...of what, wasn't posted...I thought I might gift them on...

I invite you to go down memory lane and laugh with this...Aikenly Funny montage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHVedfjpnHI

ETA: Glory, just read Ruben got married today at noon.


Wonderful montage.  He's so cute and  :thud

Any word if Clay was at Ruben's wedding?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on June 28, 2008, 12:14:09 PM


                        WELL DARN SUNNY MY INVITATION GOT LOSTED IN THE MAIL. :lmaoI WOULD BE SURE AND TELL ALL OF YOU IF CLAY WAS THERE, WONDER IF THE 3 STOOGES WERE INVITED. ALSO WONDER IF FAYE WAS INVITED I NEED TO KNOW ALL THIS STUFF.

                       GOT THE COPY OF THE LETTER MY LAWYER SENT TO THE NURSING HOME.WOW. HE WAS VERY POLITE IN A NASTY SORT OF WAY. GOOD FER HIM.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on June 28, 2008, 12:23:01 PM
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Clay Aiken's newest album is spectacular. I have listened to it many times since it was released in June. Following a link to Youtube this morning I realized I had accumulated a variety of videos people have created using songs from On My Way Here. All kinds of montages, all kinds of very diverse subjects. This album clearly connects with many demographics.

So let's see - there are those that bring two of my fandoms crashing together - for example, to the song Something About Us


SOME WONDERFUL MONTAGES OF SHOWS, ETC SET TO CLAYS MUSIC!! LOVE THEM!!

MARHAVEN BLOGSPOT  (http://marhaven.blogspot.com/2008/06/on-my-way-here-clay-aikens-newest-album.html)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on June 28, 2008, 12:29:35 PM


                        WELL DARN SUNNY MY INVITATION GOT LOSTED IN THE MAIL. :lmaoI WOULD BE SURE AND TELL ALL OF YOU IF CLAY WAS THERE, WONDER IF THE 3 STOOGES WERE INVITED. ALSO WONDER IF FAYE WAS INVITED I NEED TO KNOW ALL THIS STUFF.

                       GOT THE COPY OF THE LETTER MY LAWYER SENT TO THE NURSING HOME.WOW. HE WAS VERY POLITE IN A NASTY SORT OF WAY. GOOD FER HIM.
Maybe he can be your date for the reception. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on June 28, 2008, 01:56:10 PM
FROM RUBEN'S WEDDING.  NO MENTION OF CLAY SO I AM ASSUMING HE WASN'T THERE.


http://www.myfoxal.com/myfox/

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on June 28, 2008, 03:39:44 PM
 :wave

A busy day here - I just knew Clay would be at Ruben's wedding - maybe he is still out of the country.

Mimi - Your question about Spamalot - I check every week (NY Times Theatre section) - Spamalot was in the top 10 Broadway shows every week that Clay was there. The show dropped out of the Top 10 the week Clay left, and has never gotten into the Top 10 again. Hope Producers are paying attention!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on June 28, 2008, 04:49:41 PM
Look at this!  I would love to see Clay in the Danny Kaye roll!!!!!  This would be perfect for him!  He would certainly pack the house every night!


http://www.playbill.com/news/article/118976.html


http://broadwayworld.com/viewcolumn.cfm?colid=29289


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on June 28, 2008, 04:49:46 PM
Thanks Frankie,

Spamalot will never be the same ,as far as I'm concerned without Clay...I was very lucky I got to NYC to see him...Clay was so good and funny,and hopefully we will get to see him on Broadway again.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on June 28, 2008, 05:12:54 PM
I AM GOING TO KVELL.

ER AND HER BF WERE HERE FOR DINNER.  THEY ARE SO CUTE TOGETHER.  THEY ARE SO GOOD FOR EACH OTHER.  THEY LOVE EACH OTHER AND WANT THE FAMILIES TO BE TOGETHER.  I AM SO HAPPY FOR THEM.  I WANT TO SEE THEM MARRIED.  I WANT TO HEAR CLAY SING Something About Us AT THEIR WEDDING.  I AM HAPPY FOR THEM.

I AM TEARY.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on June 28, 2008, 05:14:48 PM
Need a laugh????



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHVedfjpnHI



Awwww, Gwenn!  I'm teary for you, too!  Someday, I have to meet that boy.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on June 28, 2008, 06:16:54 PM
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I AM GOING TO KVELL.

ER AND HER BF WERE HERE FOR DINNER.  THEY ARE SO CUTE TOGETHER.  THEY ARE SO GOOD FOR EACH OTHER.  THEY LOVE EACH OTHER AND WANT THE FAMILIES TO BE TOGETHER.  I AM SO HAPPY FOR THEM.  I WANT TO SEE THEM MARRIED.  I WANT TO HEAR CLAY SING Something About Us AT THEIR WEDDING.  I AM HAPPY FOR THEM.

I AM TEARY.

GWENN, may I also join you and MICKI and others in the circle of kvelling????  :ghug :ghug :ghug  Hopefully soon there will be an official announcement.  Oy, good news comes in threes.....so hopefully this is #2 in the "series" here on CM!!!!   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on June 28, 2008, 06:19:58 PM
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Look at this!  I would love to see Clay in the Danny Kaye roll!!!!!  This would be perfect for him!  He would certainly pack the house every night!


http://www.playbill.com/news/article/118976.html


http://broadwayworld.com/viewcolumn.cfm?colid=29289
 
 


Wow, that would be amazing indeed,  MS MICKI!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on June 28, 2008, 07:06:27 PM


                               AWE GWENN HOW SWEET. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KimLar on June 28, 2008, 07:41:34 PM
Godd Evening this is not Clay related but just had to share this laugh about what happened at work today. I work for Zellers (think Kmart) and I was working at the customer service desk, you know doing returns and the like. A lady came in wanting if she could return a Word Search Book. Only this book had the first page done already, So it kinda went like this. ,Me - you want to what? Her - Return this book  I can not find any of the words, it does not have the words that we are suppossed to find. :bduh :bang Me: Let me have a look, here's the word Flue, and the word heat. Her: What you found the word clue? That is not one of the words. Me: No not Clue, flue! So I marked it for her and proceded to find about two more in about 30 sec. This went on for about 5 min with her insisting the words were not there and me finding them. :bduh In the end I told she could not return the book, (that cost about 1.99) and  she left the store. It took all that was in me not to laugh until she left. Just thought I would share that Sat night Chuckle.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lucrezianoine on June 28, 2008, 09:16:51 PM
Need a laugh????



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHVedfjpnHI



Awwww, Gwenn!  I'm teary for you, too!  Someday, I have to meet that boy.

 :roflmao Thank you for the laughs lovinclay! Its always great to remember how funny Clay can be..

Crossing my fingers for you too Gwen!  :bigsmile

Jules :bouncy


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on June 29, 2008, 04:27:53 AM
 :wave

Good Morning - Happy Sunday!

I thought that the CNN UNICEF special was going to be on today, but  it is next Sunday - something to look forward to all week, though!

The age difference - my wonderful stepdad was 23 years older than my Mom - and it was a true love match. They had so much in common - loved to dance, and went to the famed Peabody Skyway (in Memphis - the hotel where the ducks swim in the lobby fountain) every Saturday. I wouldn't be concerned about Clay/Jaymes at all if I knew they were in love. If the baby rumour is true, I hope they are!

Have a great day, everybody - won't be here until late this evening - kids and grandkids all coming for husband's birthday.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on June 29, 2008, 07:12:32 AM
Need a laugh????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHVedfjpnHI

 :lmao Clay sure is one funny adorable guy. :gish

Morning everyone!  :wave


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on June 29, 2008, 07:39:03 AM
From Parade Magazine, 6/29:

Q: Given Josh Groban's classically inspired approach to pop songs, does he think he'll ever have a Top 10 hit?

A: "There's no chance that'll ever happen, unless Justin Timberlake decides to remix me," say Josh, 27... Since his split from actress January Jones, Josh has been keeing company with his dog.



Not having a hit song, shrugging it off, the Timberlake mention, and hangin' with the pooch just made me laugh. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on June 29, 2008, 08:24:16 AM
WELL, WELL.....  VERY FUNNY, SUNNY.  HHHMMMMM

JUST A BRIEF DRIVE BY.  HAVING BRUNCH WITH A FRIEND AND THEN OFF TO A GRADUATION PARTY. 

HOPE CLAY IS HOME, SAFE, AND ENJOYING THIS DISGUSTING HEAR.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: quynn on June 29, 2008, 01:21:06 PM
After a month of reading the multitude of reactions to the baby daddy rumor, I want to share some personal thoughts and observations about speculation.  As usual, this a a very L-O-N-G winded post....so, remember, the scroll bar is your friend.   :wink :smile

A tabloid reported a rumor of a very personal nature which linked Clay to the paternity of an unborn baby, due in August, that was conceived by AI to his friend, a 50-year-old woman who executive produced several of his recent CD's, and that Clay would be "involved" in the child's life.  The reported source being someone connected to PR for the mother's famous brother....who later, when questioned by another publication,  said he did not confirm the information reported by the tabloid.  It was printed shortly thereafter, in a spearate "celebrity type publication",  that representatives for the "Fosters," (not sure if someone representing the entire family of Fosters or just Jaymes or just David) said there would be no comment from the Fosters until after the birth.  There has been no comment from Clay either.  This is where the rumor originated, correct?  This is what we were told by a celebrity tabloid to be the truth.  If there is anything else, other than the Roberts telling People Magazine that Jaymes told them she was pregnant back in March, please remind me.  I have a fickle memory.  :lol

Due to the fact that the above rumor is the source of speculation, and we don't have confirmation from Clay or Jaymes about Clay's involvement or lack of involvement in the pregnancy, or the possible motivation of the parents to conceive a child together, or the personal thought processes of those involved in making the decision, or their hopes, desires and dreams for their future as parents or any real , in depth knowledge of their personal relationship, or the real, intimate details of the history of that relationship and how it progressed to where it is today, each individual has processed the rumor, (as it was reported and spun by a tabloid without confirmation from the two people allegedly involved), with our own, personal filters and life experiences, creating pictures in our minds that we personally believe to be the truth, because that's really all that can be done without any in depth knowledge of the truth....speculation.

I continue to remind myself every day that despite the numerous, differing spins and scenarios that fans personally have come to believe about Clay's involvement in this pregnancy, or his relationship with Jaymes.... whether married, not married, madly and romantically in love, special friends, sperm donor to a friend, etc......or, their beliefs about the degree of involvement he plans in the child's life....whether full-time dad living in the same house, a partner in parenting with full and equal rights to decision making, part-time dad parenting across the country, a special friend to the child with no intent to ever reveal his paternity, Uncle Clay with visits on birthdays, holidays and special occasions, etc.....despite all of the scenarios based solely on what we think we know about Clay's personal life, values, thought processes, there really is only ONE TRUTH, and that is something we are not privy to and may never know. 

Regardless of speculation is the fact that Jaymes' personal privacy was violated by an industry of money seeking, self-serving low lifes who feel it is their right to create and foster public mockery of anyone they believe will garner them an audience.  They feel it's everyone's right to know everything about everyone.   It disturbs me that people in the tabloid industry and their patrons have no consideration or respect for the dignity of an unborn child.  Doesn't a child have the right to be born into the world without a large scale, tabloid media circus of speculation and ignorance about his/her creation?  Don't parents of a child have the right to share news about their future baby when and if they choose?  The rights of so many people in this situation have been interfered with and disrespected....Jaymes, the child, the father and all of their family and friends.  IIT, we have no way of knowing the intent of the parents regarding the privacy of the circumstances.  I despise the tabloids for rudely and thoughtlessly interfering with the dignity and rights of an innocent, unborn baby,  and for carelessly reporting a rumor of such a private nature that has created 1,001 different scenarios among the NJU's and fans, which has resulted in people believing with certainty that they know who the "real" Clay Aiken is, what he is thinking, what his values are, the nature of his personal relationships with Jaymes, God, his family and friends, his spiritual beliefs, his preferences for women or men and their age demographics, and that it some how speaks volumes and with absolutely certainty to the fans that he hasn't addressed the rumor.......take your pick as to which of the scenarios to believe due to the silence (a.) It most definitely is true, (b.) It could be untrue because Clay doesn't talk about his personal life  (c.) It's probably false because Clay doesn't address the tabloid and rumors (d.) It could be true (e.) It could be false, (e.) It's most definitely not true, etc.  :lol

It is my personal hope that whatever the TRUTH may be, that each individual fan is open to the possibility of needing to tweak their own personal fantasy about Clay and the situation, and that they will be able to accept favorable and unfavorable reactions from other fans.   Speculation and fantasies are entertaining, but have the potential to create disappointment when overshadowed by the revelation of the truth.  I continue to remind myself to be open and accepting of the truth and see my fantasies as ever changing, speculative adventures of my imagination conjured up to fulfill my own, personal psychological needs.  And, remind myself that a human life is about to be born into the world who deserves respect and consideration of privacy and that my speculation and resulting opinions and beliefs are no match for the truth.

And, more power to all the fans who just don't give a hoot about Clay's personal life.  Ya'll are soooo smart!  :lol 
God Bless anyone who didn't scroll through this  :blah


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on June 29, 2008, 02:04:31 PM
JILL . . I would never scroll any of your posts.  I wish your entire post could be published.

You followed the tabloid rumor from the day it was printed and reminded us on the path that it took to hurt those personally affected by it, the impact on families, fans, a career . . . and a reminder that, in the end, 99% of it is based on speculation.

I need not reiterate all of the intelligent points that you made in your post.  I have nothing to add.

When, and if, the truth is ever known, each fan can certainly process the situation to fit their comfort level in the fandom.

Thank you for taking the time to post your insightful thoughts and feelings. :clap


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Post by: KSChristian4Clay on June 29, 2008, 02:13:29 PM
Jill - No scrolling here! I loved every word.  :clap


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Post by: dudley5 on June 29, 2008, 02:19:25 PM
SINCE I LURK MOSTLY....I NEVER SCROLL EITHER .....THIS SITE IS WHAT GETS ME THRU EACH DAY SO THE SCROLL BAR IS NOT MY FRIEND....


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Post by: Mary on June 29, 2008, 02:26:50 PM
Jill,

 :yeahthat


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Post by: corbet on June 29, 2008, 02:40:27 PM

Quynn,
           What a shame the whole world cannot read your post. It is really wonderful and I thank you so
     much for putting the whole situation in those heartfelt words.The tabloid trash was evil, especially when
     a sweet baby may be involved.
                                                                   Betty


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Post by: IChris1 on June 29, 2008, 02:40:47 PM
Jill, your post is right on.   :clap :clap :clap  I agree with you 100%

 :thx for taking the time to do it.  I wish every fan could read it. 

Irene


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on June 29, 2008, 02:43:22 PM
AS ALWAYS, JILL, YOU ARE THE WORD OF REASON AND INTELLIGENCE.  YOU HAVE OUTLINED THE ENTIRE SCENARIO AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

WE KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT THE PRIVATE CLAYTON.  WE REALLY HAVE NO CLUE.  WE HAVE SOME INSIGHTS, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE MAN WHO LAYS IN HIS BED AT NIGHT LOOKING AT THE CEILING CONTEMPLATING HIS LIFE.  WE HAVE NO CLUE AS TO HIS HOPES AND FEARS.  WE DON'T KNOW HIS DEMONS AND HIS LOVES.  WE JUST DON'T AND, AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH, I AM CERTAIN WE NEVER WILL.  NOT ABOUT THE BABY OR ABOUT HIS INNER SELF.

WE ALL JUST HAVE TO SIT BACK, LOVE HIM, ACCEPT HIM, AND GO ON WITH OUR LIVES.  WE HAVE NO CHOICE.

AND NEITHER DOES HE.  HE HAS TO LIVE HIS LIFE THE WAY HE SEES FIT.  ON HIS OWN TERMS.

(BUT, LORD HELP ME, I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO KNOW. :blush)

GWENN


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Post by: IChris1 on June 29, 2008, 02:44:57 PM
Gwenn, we all would love to know. 


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Post by: corbet on June 29, 2008, 02:44:58 PM
   Linda,

                   So good to hear from you. I"m still praying for that good news.
                        I hope you are not still in pain,
                                                                              Betty
   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on June 29, 2008, 02:54:18 PM

    If the baby is Clay's, I think he might be in turmoil wondering how to protect his child and his love   
   
    one"s from all the  ugliness and hatred.
                                       
                                                                                Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on June 29, 2008, 03:26:31 PM
I was thinking today that celebrities need to form their own anti defamation league
They have them. They're called publicists.


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-- and group together to demand the same rights of privacy as anyone else.
Not all celebs would join the group, because some actually like the attention (be it positive or negative). That appreciation of attention often has a part in why a person becomes a celebrity in the first place.

And those who do join might not want to give up what it is that makes them "celebrities" in the first place--which is also what makes them, according to the law, fair game for tabloids, gossip columnists, etc. "That" being the amount of money they get paid to do their jobs, and the fringe benefits made available to them because of what they do.

It might be easier to try to educate the general population that stories found in tabloids and gossip sites are irresponsible, generally malicious, and most often, made up. :shrug

Then again, maybe not. A lot of people like to read and believe this stuff. It provides an escape from their day-to-day lives, and allows them to feel better about themselves. :hypno


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on June 29, 2008, 03:40:09 PM
Just up from a very lo..o.....n.......g... Sunday afternoon nap.  Thank you for your enlightening post, JILL.  I'll just add my own  :word to yours and to he ensuing responses to your post.  I am touched especially by those who are focusing so much of their concern on the poor innocent unborn child who may end up with ao many strikes against him/her as so as the first breath is taken.   That continues to be my #1 concern.  As to Clay and Jaymes and whatever choices they make in their lives, they are adults who should and will be able to deal with whatever PR challenges come to them.  May the good Lord bless them with the strength and resolve to overcome whatever is ahead for them;  however my most fervent prayer remains for this special spirit about to make his/her entrance into this crazy world.

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A lot of people like to read and believe this stuff. It provides an escape from their day-to-day lives, and allows them to feel better about themselves.

SUNNY, so true.  Sadly some people need to fill their lives with "this stuff" to give them a sense of purpose.  Why they don't seek to fill their minds with good books, good music, spiritual pursuits or whatever is beyond me, but who am I to judge, that's for sure!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on June 29, 2008, 03:55:10 PM
Jill - Thanks so much for your wonderful post. 

I think first and foremost we should consider this innocent little baby and hope and pray that Jaymes has an uncomplicated delivery and a healthy baby.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on June 29, 2008, 03:55:22 PM
Of course, you're quite right on that Sundancer -- it's the old "no publicity is bad publicity" thing.  I wonder if there is some way to keep celebrity children off limits.


Integrity? Of course, that's not necessarily a common characteristic for some people.

Of course, some "stars" flaunt their kids in front of the cameras. Hopefully, they'll take the heat off other parents who like to keep their young'ns out of the limelight.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on June 29, 2008, 04:06:58 PM
My dear, Jill, you are one very wise woman!  Thank you for that heartfelt post, and for reminding us, once again, that as of this moment, what was reported by the tabloid, TMZ is a rumor.....nothing more.  Any speculation as to any relationship between Jaymes and Clay, or paternity is just that......speculation.  We don't know Clay's thoughts, dreams, fears regarding his personal life, nor should we.  I pray that Jaymes has a healthy baby, and that she can carry it to full term.  I pray that the child grows up in a loving, nurturing home.  And I pray that it never finds out about it's introduction by a tabloid to our world. 

Oh, and one more thing.  I hope that all those who write the fabrications for these tabloids, with no regard for the lives they may be hurting or distroying, meet Karma someday.   


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Post by: GWENN on June 29, 2008, 04:16:23 PM
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Oh, and one more thing.  I hope that all those who write the fabrications for these tabloids, with no regard for the lives they may be hurting or distroying, meet Karma someday.   

 :clap :clap :clap  AMEN MICKI.

JILL IS SO RIGHT.  THIS IS A BABY.  A BABY.  INNOCENT.  DESERVES THE BEST INTRODUCTION TO THIS WORLD IT CAN GET.  IN ALL HONESTY, IT IS THIS INNOCENT CHILD THAT HAS ME GOING  CRAZY THE MOST.  THIS CRAP AND THE ENSUING CRAP TO COME----AS IT MOST CERTAINLY WILL--- IS JUST SO TERRIBLY, AWFULLY WRONG.  THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION ON ANY LEVEL OR ANY AMENDMENT FOR INVASION OF PRIVACY OF ANYONE.  LEAST OF WHICH A BABY.  IT MAKES ME SICK. 

GWEMM


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on June 29, 2008, 04:32:28 PM
I think the baby will be fine. His (or her) parents will probably do whatever is necessary to shield and protect him (or her).


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: quynn on June 29, 2008, 04:44:33 PM
Thanks to you all for allowing me to express myself.  I honestly thought I was going to be eating tomatoes.  I appreciate your openess to this point of view.

 :hugg


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Post by: LOVE CLAY on June 29, 2008, 04:48:43 PM
guynn, You wrote a wonderful post and I feel the same way.

Rosemary


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on June 29, 2008, 04:52:47 PM
Thanks to you all for allowing me to express myself.  I honestly thought I was going to be eating tomatoes.  I appreciate your openess to this point of view.

 :hugg



No, no, no......NO TOMATOS!  Salmonella poisoning!  We're saving those for the TMZ company picnic.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on June 29, 2008, 04:55:00 PM
I think the baby will be fine. His (or her) parents will probably do whatever is necessary to shield and protect him (or her).

:yeahthat to you all ...!  Just got back from a lovely fish meal out in a eatery about 1 hour east of her to celebrate the birthday of a friend of a friend and I feel like I had to 'work the event'... have you ever been there?  :pullhair

o the food was delicious

o one gal can't take the heat...multiple sighing...yet had to go shop at the outdoor mall...more sighing...

o another gal likes to discuss politics and brain surgery...I'll actually do that ...but no one else wanted to

o  yet another gal discusses only food, shopping and decorating

o  the next gal will talk about books, church readings, food

o  the lone gentleman...got lost for 1 hour...not sure what he was willing to share...by the time he arrived

In case ya haven't noticed...I'll pretty much gab about anything...    :blah  
but, to sit there and watch folks assume states of inertia... makes me  :tired

 :thx for this place!  ...looks like I won't need a nap after all!  :purpbana

P.S.  Did I use enough emoticons?  :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on June 29, 2008, 04:56:13 PM
Thanks to you all for allowing me to express myself.  I honestly thought I was going to be eating tomatoes.  I appreciate your openess to this point of view.

 :hugg

No, no, no......NO TOMATOS!  Salmonella poisoning!  We're saving those for the TMZ company picnic.

BWAAHHH!! :roflmao


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Post by: Beth on June 29, 2008, 05:02:11 PM
Hi Everybody  :wave

I don't usually post here, but thought that this was an interesting article and wanted to share.

BTW ~ It's not Clay related!

Confessions of a cougar (http://msn.match.com/msn/article.aspx?articleid=9510&TrackingID=516311&BannerID=544657&menuid=6&GT1=26000)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on June 29, 2008, 05:11:13 PM
             It's not Clay related!

Confessions of a cougar (http://msn.match.com/msn/article.aspx?articleid=9510&TrackingID=516311&BannerID=544657&menuid=6&GT1=26000)

If it's about "cougars," it's Clay-related. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on June 29, 2008, 05:12:49 PM
Marilyn - If you are out there lurking, thanks for the call.  :hugg

I watched VH1's "I Love the Millenium". For 2003 they had a short segment on Clay and how he didn't win AI that season but was more popular. It wasn't too bad of a segment. I just disagreed when one lady said Clay didn't have any appeal. She did say she loves him though.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on June 29, 2008, 05:16:55 PM
             It's not Clay related!

Confessions of a cougar (http://msn.match.com/msn/article.aspx?articleid=9510&TrackingID=516311&BannerID=544657&menuid=6&GT1=26000)

If it's about "cougars," it's Clay-related. :wink

Okay, well then maybe I should rephrase that Clay is not mentioned in the article  :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on June 29, 2008, 05:17:26 PM
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... one lady said Clay didn't have any appeal. She did say she loves him though.

'Doesn't say much for her. :hypno


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on June 29, 2008, 05:21:00 PM
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... one lady said Clay didn't have any appeal. She did say she loves him though.

'Doesn't say much for her. :hypno

I know. They should have interviewed one of us.  :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on June 29, 2008, 05:38:58 PM
Thanks to you all for allowing me to express myself.  I honestly thought I was going to be eating tomatoes.  I appreciate your openess to this point of view.

 :hugg



No, no, no......NO TOMATOS!  Salmonella poisoning!  We're saving those for the TMZ company picnic.

 :clap     I Love It


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on June 29, 2008, 05:53:49 PM
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No, no, no......NO TOMATOS!  Salmonella poisoning!  We're saving those for the TMZ company picnic. 
 
 

 :lmao :lmao :lmao   MICKI, Yessssssss!!!!!!   :clap

I just read on the People.com news that Amy Winehouse (the singer) punched out one of her annoying fans. 
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20209412,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines
 I wonder if that thought has ever crossed Clay's mind while listening to the nutcase OTT fans interrupt his songs over and over again????   :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on June 29, 2008, 05:55:43 PM
I just read on the People.com news that Amy Winehouse (the singer) punched out one of her annoying fans.  I wonder if that thought has ever crossed Clay's mind while listening to the nutcase OTT fans interrupt his songs over and over again???? 

I don't know about Clay, but it's sure crossed my mind a few times. :lol


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Post by: mimi on June 29, 2008, 06:06:44 PM
Sunny~ You are to funny!!! :lol


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Post by: mimi on June 29, 2008, 06:28:16 PM
On My Way Here has been played 2 times today on WRALFM Mix101.5.   Roger & I were going out to get something to eat this evening, and as he turned the car on ,low & behold...Mr Aiken started singing...Roger said,"isn't that your guy singing"? At least he reconizes him now ..he has heard AOL Sessions playing so much, that I believe my brainwashing technique is working.   :yes


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on June 29, 2008, 06:51:14 PM
I just read on the People.com news that Amy Winehouse (the singer) punched out one of her annoying fans.  I wonder if that thought has ever crossed Clay's mind while listening to the nutcase OTT fans interrupt his songs over and over again???? 

I don't know about Clay, but it's sure crossed my mind a few times. :lol

 :kiss :laugh :please :yes

GWENN


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Post by: mimi on June 29, 2008, 06:56:29 PM
Thunderstorming in Raleigh, so I will call it a night.

Sweet dreams to you all     :claydream

Nite! :dust

Marlene


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on June 29, 2008, 07:03:41 PM
WELL, LADIES, PIGS ARE FLYING.  SOMEONE AT THE CH IS READING OUR BOARD AND POSTED SOMETHING SHE SAW HERE. :pig :wow :eek  I GUESS WE HAVE MADE IT INTO THE BIG LEAGUES. :bigsmile :lmao :wink

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on June 29, 2008, 07:05:40 PM
WELL, LADIES, PIGS ARE FLYING.  SOMEONE AT THE CH IS READING OUR BOARD AND POSTED SOMETHING SHE SAW HERE. :pig :wow :eek  I GUESS WE HAVE MADE IT INTO THE BIG LEAGUES. :bigsmile :lmao :wink

GWENN

Hopefully it was something good!  :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on June 29, 2008, 07:09:58 PM
HI BETH!!! :wave

IT ACTUALLY WAS A REPOST FROM SOMETHING FROM CV, BUT THE POINT IT, SOMEONE THERE ACTUALLY READ OVER HERE.  I DIDN'T THINK ANYONE THERE EVEN KNEW WE EXISTED.   :bduh

GWENN


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Post by: claydevotee on June 29, 2008, 07:12:45 PM
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HI BETH!!!

IT ACTUALLY WAS A REPOST FROM SOMETHING FROM CV, BUT THE POINT IT, SOMEONE THERE ACTUALLY READ OVER HERE.  I DIDN'T THINK ANYONE THERE EVEN KNEW WE EXISTED.   

GWENN

We may be small, but we are mighty!!!

GLORY has posted something on the OCD about heading to the Emergency Room with some serious-sounding health issue.  Please keep her in your thoughts and prayers. tonight. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on June 29, 2008, 07:14:14 PM
I don't  usually post anywhere other than here (claymaniacs).  I don't even lurk anywhere else.  Maybe there are some over there that are like me and don't post anywhere else.   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on June 29, 2008, 07:15:12 PM
GLORY has posted something on the OCD about heading to the Emergency Room with some serious-sounding health issue.  Please keep her in your thoughts and prayers. tonight. 

Thanks Thea  :hugg! You bet!  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on June 29, 2008, 07:17:43 PM
OMG, GLORY DOESN'T NEED ANOTHER AWFUL THING. 

THEA--IF YOU HEAR ANYTHING, LET US KNOW.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on June 29, 2008, 07:22:23 PM
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OMG, GLORY DOESN'T NEED ANOTHER AWFUL THING. 

THEA--IF YOU HEAR ANYTHING, LET US KNOW.

GWENN

'Will do, GWENN.  :hugg  This is when living far from family gets complicated.  `sigh`


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on June 29, 2008, 07:28:22 PM

Glory sure doesn't need anything else right now.  I sure hope she will be all right.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on June 29, 2008, 07:37:24 PM
Praying for Glory! I hope she is okay.

Thanks for the birthday wishes in my b-day thread everyone. Love you all!  :hugg


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Post by: dudley5 on June 29, 2008, 07:43:00 PM
Jill - Thanks so much for your wonderful post. 

I think first and foremost we should consider this innocent little baby and hope and pray that Jaymes has an uncomplicated delivery and a healthy baby.

WHAT DID I MISS.....I HAVEN'T EVER SEEN FOR SURE THAT SHE IS PREGNANT...ONLY IN THE RAGS WHERE THEY HAD A PICTURE THAT DIDN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE SHE WAS.....WHERE WAS THAT ARTICLE IN THE NEWS OR WHEREVER.....


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Post by: clayharmony on June 29, 2008, 08:01:53 PM
Oh golly Meesa...belated birthday greetings to you...  :hugg

I just looked up Glory's post at the OCD...does anyone from this site live near her?  I'll surely be sending her my  prayers and good wishes.


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Post by: clayfannj on June 29, 2008, 09:55:44 PM
Jill...

  Beautiful post.. Thoughtful, intelligent, logical as usual...I guess we can only truly know  anything if it is revealed as things unfold.....At least we all can agree to agree on the awful behavior and role of the tabloid press...  This child should and will I'm sure be shielded as much as possible..This is at the core of human decency....Let's hope it happens...

I just came back from the city....

I was on W44th Street and actually ate at John's Pizza with some friends...  I went to see Cirque Dreams.  Actually it has a limited engagement and the Broadway Theater on 53rd ST it is in will house  SHREK THE MUSICAL....!!!   COINCIDENCE?????

It was quite good...But, what I really want to tell you is.........

Seeing the SPAMALOT Marquee as I turned the corner on 8th Ave was so warmly familiar and strangely  ghostly at the same time......The area felt   empty, and  yet bustling with tourists and patrons..I guess the truth is that it has become....  "HIS" block and will be so forever for me....




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Post by: lovinclay on June 30, 2008, 03:31:09 AM
Good Morning, everyone!     :wave

Any word on Glory?

Jill, I want to say once again thank you for your thoughts.  It led into some good discussion here last night.

Marion, I understand your feelings on 44th. Street and Spamalot.  I feel the same way.  It was such an exciting time in the Claynation.  Hopefully, somewhere down the road, he'll do Broadway again.  But, for now, I'm hoping a tour is in our future.....a pop tour.  I don't believe we'll see one this year, but maybe in the Spring.  Maybe we'll get a short Christmas tour.  Please, Clay!   :please    No, I ain't to proud to beg.   :wink


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Post by: lovinclay on June 30, 2008, 03:55:20 AM
A YouTube to one of my most favorite all-time movies! Jill, you really need to rent this movie.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEJWQxB5TME


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Post by: Beth on June 30, 2008, 04:35:19 AM
Please, Clay!   :please    No, I ain't to proud to beg.   :wink

 :giggle


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Post by: fhmmany2 on June 30, 2008, 05:19:23 AM
I just called Glory's hospital - she was admitted last night. They called her room for me, but the line was busy - I will try again later, and will let you know if I reach her.


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Post by: quynn on June 30, 2008, 05:36:16 AM
Prayers for {{{{GLORY}}}}

Frankie, thanks for your efforts to reach Glory.  I hope you reach her soon and that she is doing better.


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Post by: clayfannj on June 30, 2008, 05:46:13 AM
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Prayers for {{{{GLORY}}}}

Frankie, thanks for your efforts to reach Glory.  I hope you reach her soon and that she is doing better


Oh My....


Ditto!!!!.......



 :oh


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Post by: Sundancer on June 30, 2008, 05:54:01 AM
Holding you in thought and prayer, Glory. Give 'em heck, O Mighty One. :hugg


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Post by: GWENN on June 30, 2008, 08:23:01 AM
SO SORRY GLORY IS IN THE HOSPITAL.  {{{GLORY}}}

QUIET DAY TODAY.  BILLS.  MARKET.  WASH.  UGH.

GWENN


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Post by: Jan on June 30, 2008, 08:36:01 AM
FRANKIE

WHAT HOSPITAL IS GLORY IN NOW?? WOULD LOVE TO SEND HER A CARD OR SOMETHING. YOU ARE SUCH A GOOD FRIEND TO CALL AND FIND OUT HOW SHE IS, KEEP US POSTED
SHE IS SUCH A WARM AND WONDERFUL PERSON AND HAS HAD SO MANY BAD THINGS HAPPENING IN HER LIFE, SHE CERTAINLY DOES NOT DESERVE THIS.

 SHE IS ONE OF THE VERY LOYAL CLAY FANS.

LUV TO ALL
JAN


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Post by: claydevotee on June 30, 2008, 08:52:50 AM
 :wave  Just jumping in for a moment.

FRANKIE, thanks for checking up on our GLORY.  And you're so right, JEANNE.  She has been through way too much in her life.  I hope she can feel the love and prayers we are sending her way.  :ghug

We are already totally immersed in wedding plans. :hypno  Kudos to my son for setting up a message board.  :clap The thought of all having to conduct all of this business by phone is mine-boggling.  God bless the internet.  And God bless my future DIL for not being a "Bridezilla"!!!  :lol

CLAY CONTENT :  I sure hope Clay is home from Somalia by now.  If I were Faye, I would be a nervous wreck with my sons travelling all over the globe.  I'm a wreck just thinking about P over in Amsterdam this week.    :pullhair

TTYL  :sonic


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on June 30, 2008, 08:59:49 AM
Just looked at the business card for the guy who is coordinating the Wedding Reception.  It reads.  "When It Comes to I Do's, We Do It All".  Oy, I wonder how many business cards have that same phrase on them????   :lol

CLAY CONTENT:  "Nobody does it better than Clay"  (I'm talking about performing on stage, ya know???  :wink)



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Post by: fhmmany2 on June 30, 2008, 09:06:57 AM
 :wave

Just tried to call Glory's hospital room - no answer this time. I don't know, of course, if she is out of the room having tests or if she may have been discharged. When she went to the hospital last night, she thought she was having complications from a surgery she had last year. I will keep checking.

Jan - she is in Dunn Memorial Hospital in Bedford, Indiana - I got the number off the internet, and I'm sure you can get the address, there, too. Or if you (or anybody else) wants to send a card to Glory at home, just send me a p.m.

I will keep trying to contact her - I know she does have friends in her apartment complex, but there is no family in her town.

Clay content - we don't know where he is or how he is, either. Good thing I promised Me to stop worrying about that!  :lol



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Post by: lovinclay on June 30, 2008, 09:24:34 AM
Frankie, thank you so much for trying to contact Glory!  Please keep trying.  It's quite possible she's having tests.  If you do get through to her, please tell her we're all praying for her, and sending possitive thoughts her way. 

Clay content:  We can't reach him either.   :para


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Post by: claydevotee on June 30, 2008, 10:26:24 AM
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Clay content:  We can't reach him either.   
 


 :lol  And I just can't figure out why Clay insists on having an unlisted number.   :scratch


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Post by: KSChristian4Clay on June 30, 2008, 10:55:48 AM
{{{Glory}}}


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Post by: corbet on June 30, 2008, 11:37:54 AM
]   
     Thea,
  I just spit my tea out after reading your remark.!!!!! Why in  the world would Clay

    want an unlisted number?? We would never dream of trying to call him ,Would we??????   

 Cough! Cough!                     

Betty                                           :angel


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Post by: Sundancer on June 30, 2008, 11:40:58 AM
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Clay content:  We can't reach him either.   
 


 :lol  And I just can't figure out why Clay insists on having an unlisted number.   :scratch

So he doesn't have people screaming EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! and OMG OMG OMG in his ear every day? :shrug


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on June 30, 2008, 12:51:34 PM
Just called the hospital again, and was told that Diane "is no longer a patient here". Hope that means she is on her way home and is O.K. - and I hope she will check in here soon. I do have her home phone number, but the address book is behind everything that we have stacked in the guest bedroom due to construction going on here at the house - going to go search, and will let you know if I talk to her. Maybe she will have checked in here before I get back!


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Post by: GWENN on June 30, 2008, 02:55:00 PM
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Usmagazine.com

Clay Aiken: Ruben Studdard's New Wife Is "One Lucky Lady"
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Clay Aiken is sending well-wishes to American Idol competitor Ruben Studdard, who got married Saturday.

"Ruben is one of the most wonderful guys I have ever known," Aiken, 29, tells Usmagazine.com. "He has such a great heart.

"Zuri is one lucky lady," Aiken adds. "I'm thrilled for both of them as they start this great chapter in their lives."

SAW THIS AT THE CH.  SO, DO YOU THINK CLAY REALLY SAID THIS NOW OR MAYBE AT THE ENGAGEMENT ANNOUNCEMENT?

AND IF HE DID-----WHERE THE HELL IS HE??????????

I AM A LITTLE HYPER TODAY.  FORGIVE ME. :blush

GWENN


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Post by: IChris1 on June 30, 2008, 04:15:19 PM
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Usmagazine.com

Clay Aiken: Ruben Studdard's New Wife Is "One Lucky Lady"
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Clay Aiken is sending well-wishes to American Idol competitor Ruben Studdard, who got married Saturday.

"Ruben is one of the most wonderful guys I have ever known," Aiken, 29, tells Usmagazine.com. "He has such a great heart.

"Zuri is one lucky lady," Aiken adds. "I'm thrilled for both of them as they start this great chapter in their lives."

SAW THIS AT THE CH.  SO, DO YOU THINK CLAY REALLY SAID THIS NOW OR MAYBE AT THE ENGAGEMENT ANNOUNCEMENT?

AND IF HE DID-----WHERE THE HELL IS HE??????????

I AM A LITTLE HYPER TODAY.  FORGIVE ME. :blush

GWENN

You're right, Gwenn, "Where the hell is he?"  Inquiring minds want to know....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on June 30, 2008, 04:37:46 PM
... WHERE THE HELL IS HE??????????

I AM A LITTLE HYPER TODAY.  FORGIVE ME. :blush

GWENN

You're right, Gwenn, "Where the hell is he?"  Inquiring minds want to know....

Probably where he likes to be most--out of the fish bowl. :wink


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Post by: lovinclay on June 30, 2008, 04:46:44 PM
Personally, I don't think he told this to US Magazine. 

I don't know where he is, but if I was to venture a guess, I'd say he's home in Raleigh, unless he stopped off in England for a visit.   :para   


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Post by: Sundancer on June 30, 2008, 04:52:35 PM
Personally, I don't think he told this to US Magazine. 
Me, neither, Micki.

I think it's a quote from Eric Roberts. :lol


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Post by: clayfannj on June 30, 2008, 05:22:17 PM
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I think it's a quote from Eric Roberts.



Julia, a member of Eric Robert's family has just said he retracts it!!!! :lmao :lmao :lmao


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Post by: fhmmany2 on June 30, 2008, 05:52:47 PM
Glory has checked in on the OCD - she is home from the hospital - I knew she would probably check in before I found that phone number!  :lol There are 3 rooms of furniture stacked in one room - I have been crawling around under furniture looking for an address book!

Almost had a heart attack when Entertainment tonight was going off - the question was "Which former American Idol is going to star in a movie version of their role on Broadway" the choices were Clay, Fantasia, and Taylor Hicks - the answer was Fantasia   :bang


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Post by: Glory on June 30, 2008, 06:02:28 PM

                           WELL I AM HOME BOY WHAT A COUPLE DAYS WENT TO THE HOSPITAL DOUBLED OVER IN PAIN THOUGHT THE TUMOR I HAD TAKEN OUT 3 YEARS AGO HAD RETURNED, WELL IT HASN'T AS FAR AS WE KNOW, I HAVE A DOUBLE UTI IN THE BLOOD AND UT. THIS DROP DEAD GORGEOUS DOC PUT ME IN A RM RIGHT ANYWAY I ASK HIM IF I WAS DREAMING THOUGHT ABOUT ASKING HIM IF HE IF HE WANTED TO HAVE HIS WAY WAY WITH ME IWAS DELERIOUS :lol :lol

                    ANYWAY THEY PUT ME ON SOME HIGH POWERED ANTIBIOTICS WHICH I THREW UP SO SICK TO MY STOMACH.THEY KEPT ME GAVE ME IV'S OUT THE WAZOO,MORE DRUGS, PAIN MEDS I WAS HIGH AS A KITE, FIINALLY GOT ME SETTLED DOWN I STILL FEEL AWFUL BAD BUT AM ON SOME STRONG MEDS. SO THAT IS ABOUT ALL.

                THANK YOU FOR THE CONCERN I NEVER KNEW SO MANY PEOPLE CARED ABOUT O MIGHTY ONE SO MUCH.THANK YOU FOR LOVING ME.

                 GUESS NOBODYS HEARD FROM CLAY YET, I DREAMED ABOUT HIM LAST NIGHT I WILL SAVE THAT FOR ANOTHER DAY I WAS DELUSLIONAL . :roflmao


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Post by: wisconsinmaniac on June 30, 2008, 06:05:31 PM
GLORY - You are truly "O mighty one".  We sent prayers and cyber hugs.  Glad you are home! :hugg


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Post by: Beth on June 30, 2008, 06:13:49 PM
Glory, Glad to hear that you're back home  :hugg


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Post by: GWENN on June 30, 2008, 06:21:05 PM
OMG, GLORY.  SO GLAD YOU ARE HOME.  I MISS YOU SOOOO MUCH HERE.  YOU JUST CRACK ME UP.

AND I, FOR ONE, EXPECT TO HEAR THAT DREAM.   :bigsmile

GWENN


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Post by: claydevotee on June 30, 2008, 06:22:24 PM
GLORY, welcome home, sweetie!  Prayers have been answered!   :hugg

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THANK YOU FOR THE CONCERN I NEVER KNEW SO MANY PEOPLE CARED ABOUT O MIGHTY ONE SO MUCH.THANK YOU FOR LOVING ME.
You 've obviously underestimated how much you are loved here on Claymanaics, MS GLORY!!!   :ghug

Regarding the allegations and now the alleged retractions of said allegations, my head is spinning.   :hypno  



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Post by: Sundancer on June 30, 2008, 06:25:46 PM

                THANK YOU FOR THE CONCERN I NEVER KNEW SO MANY PEOPLE CARED ABOUT O MIGHTY ONE SO MUCH.THANK YOU FOR LOVING ME.
The pleasure is ours, O Mighty One. :hugg


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                 GUESS NOBODYS HEARD FROM CLAY YET, I DREAMED ABOUT HIM LAST NIGHT
Oo, got any of those meds left? :slick


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Post by: GWENN on June 30, 2008, 06:32:56 PM
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                 GUESS NOBODYS HEARD FROM CLAY YET, I DREAMED ABOUT HIM LAST NIGHT
Oo, got any of those meds left?

OH-----I COULD USE SOME OF THOSE. :bigsmile

GWENN


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Post by: claydevotee on June 30, 2008, 06:35:36 PM
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OH-----I COULD USE SOME OF THOSE.

GWENN

Me too.   :bigsmile :bubble :dust :hypno


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Post by: Moonshot on June 30, 2008, 06:53:11 PM
Almost had a heart attack when Entertainment tonight was going off - the question was "Which former American Idol is going to star in a movie version of their role on Broadway" the choices were Clay, Fantasia, and Taylor Hicks - the answer was Fantasia   :bang

Well she gave such a stellar performance portraying herself in that Lifetime movie a while back... :rolleyes


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Post by: Glory on June 30, 2008, 06:54:51 PM

                            YEP GOT A WHOLE BOTTLE :hypno :lmao I AM ALWAYS GLAD TO SHARE BUT AM KEEPING THESE FOR MYSELF.I MISSED MY INTERVIEW DIDN'T REALLY WANT THAT JOB ANYWAY BEEN THERE DONE THAT,

                       IF CLAY CALLS I WILL ASK HIM IF HE NEEDS HELP. I AM A GOOD HELP I CAN KEEP UP WITH HIS SNARK ANYDAY.  :para

                     WELL I AM GOING TO REST I FEEL RELLY BAD AT THE MOMENT.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on June 30, 2008, 07:00:14 PM

Glad you're OK Glory.   :hugg


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Usmagazine.com

Clay Aiken: Ruben Studdard's New Wife Is "One Lucky Lady"
Quote:
Clay Aiken is sending well-wishes to American Idol competitor Ruben Studdard, who got married Saturday.

"Ruben is one of the most wonderful guys I have ever known," Aiken, 29, tells Usmagazine.com. "He has such a great heart.

"Zuri is one lucky lady," Aiken adds. "I'm thrilled for both of them as they start this great chapter in their lives."

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Personally, I don't think he told this to US Magazine. 

I agree, that doesn't sound like the way Clay talks at all.  I'm guessing it was fabricated, just doesn't sound authentic to me.

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Almost had a heart attack when Entertainment tonight was going off - the question was "Which former American Idol is going to star in a movie version of their role on Broadway" the choices were Clay, Fantasia, and Taylor Hicks - the answer was Fantasia   

Wasn't The Color Purple already a movie not that long ago, starring Oprah?  Maybe this is the musical version.


Has anybody seen this montage yet? 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xFqL9QJBc0s


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on June 30, 2008, 07:10:18 PM
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Personally, I don't think he told this to US Magazine. 

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I agree, that doesn't sound like the way Clay talks at all.  I'm guessing it was fabricated, just doesn't sound authentic to me.
I agree, FRANNIE.  And frankly, I don't understand why they needed to put a quote from Clay in an article about Ruben.  Ruben should be able to celebrate a special occasion like his wedding without having to be once again linked to Clay.  I sometimes wonder when and ifl this winner/runner-up thing will ever go away?  AAARRGHGHG.

MICHELLE, as to Fantasia' role in "The Color Purple", I think the PTB in AI used their influence to get her this role.  After all, why should Fantasia, "the AI winner" have a lesser career than Jennifer Hudson, who didn't even make it to the AI finals?  Again, it seems this AI thing stays with these people for a lifetime. 


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Post by: mimi on June 30, 2008, 07:15:24 PM
Frannie~ Thanks so much for the link..That was so touching, it brought tears to my eyes, especially the starving children,and there by The Grace of God go I is quite compelling.

I see my own grandchildren being so wasteful and these little children would be happy for just a crumb, but its like this in places all over the world,and right here in the USA...I feel very fortunate for all I have.


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Post by: claydevotee on June 30, 2008, 07:33:07 PM
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Has anybody seen this montage yet? 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xFqL9QJBc0s

I just watched it.  I'm speechless, I am humbled and I am frustrated.  After seeing what he has on his UNICEF missions, is it any wonder that Clay doesn't worry about what TMZ or the other swamp people are saying about him?????   It's all about perspective, isn't it? 

Thanks for the link, FRANNIE.  I will be sharing this with my friends and family.


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Post by: Sundancer on June 30, 2008, 07:42:55 PM
MICHELLE, as to Fantasia' role in "The Color Purple", I think the PTB in AI used their influence to get her this role.  After all, why should Fantasia, "the AI winner" have a lesser career than Jennifer Hudson, who didn't even make it to the AI finals?

Cuz she's less talented, less attractive, and arrogant? :scratch


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on June 30, 2008, 07:55:05 PM

Glory, I am glad you are home and I hope you feel much better real soon.


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Post by: mimi on June 30, 2008, 08:06:04 PM
Glory, I love you to death, and miss you when you are away, so please stay well for us..We missed you!

Lets see HANDSOME LAWYER,HANDSOME DOCTOR...DREAMS ABOUT MR AIKEN...WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO?     :bouncy


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Post by: Marilyn on June 30, 2008, 08:18:02 PM

                            YEP GOT A WHOLE BOTTLE :hypno :lmao I AM ALWAYS GLAD TO SHARE BUT AM KEEPING THESE FOR MYSELF.I MISSED MY INTERVIEW DIDN'T REALLY WANT THAT JOB ANYWAY BEEN THERE DONE THAT,

                       IF CLAY CALLS I WILL ASK HIM IF HE NEEDS HELP. I AM A GOOD HELP I CAN KEEP UP WITH HIS SNARK ANYDAY.  :para

                     WELL I AM GOING TO REST I FEEL RELLY BAD AT THE MOMENT.
:hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg


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Post by: clayfannj on June 30, 2008, 08:37:05 PM
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so please stay well for us..We missed you!

Ditto,to that, Glory... :hugg

You scared the   :naughty out of us!!!!

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THIS DROP DEAD GORGEOUS DOC PUT ME IN A RM RIGHT ANYWAY I ASK HIM IF I WAS DREAMING THOUGHT ABOUT ASKING HIM IF HE IF HE WANTED TO HAVE HIS WAY WAY WITH ME IWAS DELERIOUS

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GUESS NOBODYS HEARD FROM CLAY YET, I DREAMED ABOUT HIM LAST NIGHT


You sure don't sound sick to me!!!! :bigsmile

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MICHELLE, as to Fantasia' role in "The Color Purple", I think the PTB in AI used their influence to get her this role.  After all, why should Fantasia, "the AI winner" have a lesser career than Jennifer Hudson, who didn't even make it to the AI finals?

Cuz she's less talented, less attractive, and arrogant?



Good bet there is at least one little screamer out there who is mighty glad Sunny wasn't the casting director.!!!! :para :para :bigsmile




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 01, 2008, 01:54:06 AM
It's in the wee hours here...yeah...my summer routine is back...  :smile ...just stopping by for a quick post...

Glory gal...my heavens woman!...We missed you here!...so glad you are home already...now I hope the next news is that you are feeling great.  ...sending you good energy for summertime R and R...you know Gwenn  and I are reading Barbara Walter's tome, Audition, ...it's gotta be at least 1000 pages...I've not looked... maybe you'd enjoy reading it too...she's lead a fascinating life, for sure.

Sure miss our guy...hope he's missing us too...too bad we can't just wave at him somehow...alright, I'd like to have options for other choices...I'll get real...and if I were in his window of opportunity, ahem...

Don't you imagine he left some kind of statement with his publicist about Ruben's nuptials?...although the US quote didn't quite have his 'voice' now did it? ...doubt they were directly in touch with him.

Lora, I didn't ever have a moment to complete a track by track impression of On My Way Here...(I was in the thick of state testing and yuck at school when it was released)...however, if you are reading this thread, I'm with you on your favs!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 01, 2008, 03:26:40 AM
That YouTube was heartwrenching.  I truthfully don't know how Clay does it.  Just watching that was difficult.  To actually be there, witnessing it.....well, I just can't imagine.  I suppose you have to be a really strong person.  God bless, Clay and all the others bringing awareness to the plights in our world.  You are making a difference!

Glory, it's good to have you home with us again.  Stay well. 


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Post by: GWENN on July 01, 2008, 05:03:43 AM
I SAW THAT MONTAGE YESTERDAY.  I HIT ME REALLY HARD.  THOSE LITTLE BABIES JUST KILLED ME.  I CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT CLAY THOUGHT OR FELT WHEN HE SAW THIS STUFF UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL.  HOW DO YOU SLEEP AFTER THAT?  GOG IS PERFECT FOR UNICEF.  IT SHOULD BE THEIR SIGNATURE SONG.

GLORY-- :hugg :hugg :hugg  STAY WELL. SWEETIE.  WE NEED YOU AROUND HERE.

FANTASIA--SHE GOT RAVE REVIEWS SO MAYBE SHE IS GOOD.  I DON'T KNOW.  SHE SCREAMS TO ME AND I HAVE NO INTENTION OF SEEING THAT MOVIE NOT BECAUSE OF FANTASIA BUT BECAUSE OF THE SUBJECT MATTER.  I CANNOT STAND SEEING ABUSE OF ANY KIND. 

GOING TO TRY TO GET A PEDICURE TODAY.  NOT SURE IF I CAN GET AN APPOINTMENT. 

GWENN

WHERE IS HE!!!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 01, 2008, 05:11:43 AM
Good to see Glory's home!  :bouncy :hugg

Loved the montage. I wish more people could see how caring he is.


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Post by: Marilyn on July 01, 2008, 05:26:50 AM
I am sure Clays heart was breaking seeing those poor starving children. It takes a very strong person to get through something like that. But Clay has what it takes. I will bet that seeing those people surely put things in perspective-the media can go to he**. It really doesn't matter what they print or say- we know what a special person Clay is.


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Post by: claydevotee on July 01, 2008, 07:11:25 AM
Good morning, dear CM'ers!   It's obvious that so many of us here were deeply moved by the Somalia montage.  I still would love to see a similar presentation on a larger scale at a future Clay concert (right, MICKI?  :wink)

OK, on a lighter subject.(I think  :para) . I've developed a perverse fascination with the comings and goings of Amy Winehouse.  She is a peculiar young woman, to say the least....but like Clay, she seems to do everything her way .  I loved the fact that she let an obnoxious fan know what she thought of him/her (although I'm not condoning the physical punching of said OTT fan).  Today there was another article about her on People.com.  May I say that she's a real "mess", yet seems to always get a pass from the media.
 
And then we have Clay Aiken who periodically puts his life on the line for the unfortunate masses of the world, runs a growing charitable foundation and still manages to star on Broadway and record beyond amazing music???  What is wrong with this picture????   

Just a few morning  :brainfart s  from yours truly this morning. 

Have a good one, ladies!!!


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Post by: claydevotee on July 01, 2008, 07:17:07 AM
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GOING TO TRY TO GET A PEDICURE TODAY.  NOT SURE IF I CAN GET AN APPOINTMENT. 


GWENN, great minds (and toes) think alike.  I'm also getting a pedicure this afternoon.  OPI "Big Apple Red", here we come!!!  :lol  Have to get ready for the 4th!!!  :bduh


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Post by: dudley5 on July 01, 2008, 07:30:49 AM

                            YEP GOT A WHOLE BOTTLE :hypno :lmao I AM ALWAYS GLAD TO SHARE BUT AM KEEPING THESE FOR MYSELF.I MISSED MY INTERVIEW DIDN'T REALLY WANT THAT JOB ANYWAY BEEN THERE DONE THAT,

                       IF CLAY CALLS I WILL ASK HIM IF HE NEEDS HELP. I AM A GOOD HELP I CAN KEEP UP WITH HIS SNARK ANYDAY.  :para

                     WELL I AM GOING TO REST I FEEL RELLY BAD AT THE MOMENT.
:hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg

ADD MINE TO THOSE  :hugg  :hugg  :hugg   :hugg  :hugg  :hugg  :hugg  :hugg  :hugg  :hugg  :hugg


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Post by: dudley5 on July 01, 2008, 07:36:42 AM
I am sure Clays heart was breaking seeing those poor starving children. It takes a very strong person to get through something like that. But Clay has what it takes. I will bet that seeing those people surely put things in perspective-the media can go to he**. It really doesn't matter what they print or say- we know what a special person Clay is.

WHERE IS THIS MONTAGE?


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Post by: GWENN on July 01, 2008, 07:39:15 AM
I am sure Clays heart was breaking seeing those poor starving children. It takes a very strong person to get through something like that. But Clay has what it takes. I will bet that seeing those people surely put things in perspective-the media can go to he**. It really doesn't matter what they print or say- we know what a special person Clay is.

WHERE IS THIS MONTAGE?

HERE IT IS, LINDA.  IT WILL BREAK YOUR HEART.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xFqL9QJBc0s

GWENN


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Post by: Sundancer on July 01, 2008, 08:00:10 AM
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Has anybody seen this montage yet? 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xFqL9QJBc0s

I just watched it.  I'm speechless, I am humbled and I am frustrated.  After seeing what he has on his UNICEF missions, is it any wonder that Clay doesn't worry about what TMZ or the other swamp people are saying about him?????   It's all about perspective, isn't it? 

Perspective... values... yeah.


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Post by: Glory on July 01, 2008, 08:08:40 AM



                                                     I HURT STILL BUT IT COMES AND GOES WISH IT WOULD JUST LEAVE, :para :para

                                                  I DID CALL THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO INTERVIEW ME YESTERDAY AND TOLD THEM WHAT HAPPENED THEY SAID THEY WOULD CALL BACK WE'LL SEE IF THEY DO.

                                          WHEN I WORKED THERE IN2002 I BEAT OUT 40 APPLICANTS FOR THE JOB MAYBE IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN. WE WILL SEE. WELL HAVE TO GET IN THE SHOWER AND GET MYSELF TOGETHER, TTYL.

                                          WONDER WHAT MR. AIKEN IS UP TO, I SURE MISS HIM. :hugg


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Post by: fhmmany2 on July 01, 2008, 09:02:56 AM
 :wave

Good Morning - I was just thinking about how good he is at hiding - another thing he does so well!!!!!  :lol


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Post by: mimi2 on July 01, 2008, 09:08:07 AM
Come out, come out where ever you are!!!!!   I miss Clay!


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Post by: dudley5 on July 01, 2008, 09:42:17 AM
I am sure Clays heart was breaking seeing those poor starving children. It takes a very strong person to get through something like that. But Clay has what it takes. I will bet that seeing those people surely put things in perspective-the media can go to he**. It really doesn't matter what they print or say- we know what a special person Clay is.

WHERE IS THIS MONTAGE?

HERE IT IS, LINDA.  IT WILL BREAK YOUR HEART.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xFqL9QJBc0s

GWENN

THANKS GWENN.....


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Post by: lovinclay on July 01, 2008, 10:43:47 AM
Here an interview with Essence with Ruben and Zuri.  I wish only the best for these two lovely people.


http://www.essence.com/essence/themix/entertainment/0,16109,1818668,00.html


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Post by: GWENN on July 01, 2008, 10:50:43 AM
WELL, THERE IS A NEW PIC OF JAYMES AND, OF COURSE, WITH MOZILLA I CAN'T BRING IT OVER.  IT IS AT THE CH AND CV FROM TMZ.  PLEASE DON'T GO TO TMZ.  IF THIS CHICK IS DUE NEXT MONTH, I DON'T GET IT.  I WAS AN ELEPHANT BY NOW AND ER WAS BORN IN SEPT.  I KNOW SOME CARRY SMALL, BUT THIS IS KIND OF NUTS TO ME.  SHE HASN'T EVEN SPREAD AND SHE IS 50.  WOW.  DOESN'T LOOK HAPPY TO ME AT ALL.  I MEAN----WHEW.  IF THIS IS REALLY JUST YESTERDAY, WHICH I DOUBT, AT LEAST SHE ISN'T ON BED REST.  THAT IS A GOOD THING.

GWENN


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Post by: Moonshot on July 01, 2008, 11:16:56 AM
WELL, THERE IS A NEW PIC OF JAYMES AND, OF COURSE, WITH MOZILLA I CAN'T BRING IT OVER.

NEW PIC OF JAYMES (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/ncqueenp/Miscellaneous/0701_jaymes_foster_exc.jpg)


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Post by: lovinclay on July 01, 2008, 11:19:23 AM
I saw that, too Gwenn.  Things that make you go hmmmmm.


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Post by: PHILLYLUVSCLAY on July 01, 2008, 11:38:51 AM
I saw that, too Gwenn.  Things that make you go hmmmmm.

Aha!  She's carrying a box of Cheerio's not Cinnamon toasted Crunch!  Therefore the tabloids are false! :lol


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Post by: lovinclay on July 01, 2008, 11:45:17 AM
I saw that, too Gwenn.  Things that make you go hmmmmm.

Aha!  She's carrying a box of Cheerio's not Cinnamon toasted Crunch!  Therefore the tabloids are false! :lol



Good one, Theresa!   :lol


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Post by: PHILLYLUVSCLAY on July 01, 2008, 11:47:30 AM
I saw that, too Gwenn.  Things that make you go hmmmmm.

Aha!  She's carrying a box of Cheerio's not Cinnamon toasted Crunch!  Therefore the tabloids are false! :lol



Good one, Theresa!   :lol

I'M TELLIN YA IF SHE WAS CARRYING CLAY'S CHILD SHE WOULD BE EATING AT BENIHANA'S FOUR TIMES A WEEK,  YELLING FOR CLAY TO GET HER PULLED PORK SANDWICHES WITH EXTRA SAUCE! :lol

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE, GIVING THE OPPURNITY... :waggle


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Post by: GWENN on July 01, 2008, 11:51:09 AM
MAINER--YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT ABOUT THE CLOTHES.  WITH TEMPS AVERAGING OVER 100 LATELY OUT THERE, AND BEING PREGNANT AND EXCEPTIONALLY HOT----NO WAY THIS WAS TAKEN YESTERDAY.  NO WAY.  SHE WOULD HAVE DROPPED DEAD FROM HEAT.

I BET IT IS SOME KIND OF PHOTOSHOP TRYING TO REKINDLE A STORY THAT SEEMS TO HAVE DIED. 

GWENN


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Post by: franniek54 on July 01, 2008, 11:52:35 AM
I think she's wearing the same clothes in both pics.  I think they were taken on the same day and the first pic was used on 6/2, who knows when it was taken tho.

Clickable

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/th_0602_jaymes_foster_npg_exc_01-1.jpg) (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/0602_jaymes_foster_npg_exc_01-1.jpg)     Jaymes going to the store

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/th_0701_jaymes_foster_exc.jpg) (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/0701_jaymes_foster_exc.jpg)    Jaymes coming back from the store   :lol



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Post by: GWENN on July 01, 2008, 11:55:58 AM
FRANNIE--YOU ARE PROBABLY RIGHT.

THIS IS FUNNY--SOMEONE AT THE CH SAID---WELL, IF SHE IS IN HER 8TH MONTH, THIS BABY IS ALREADY A PRO AT HIDING FROM THE PAPARAZZI.   :bigsmile

GWENN


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Post by: lovinclay on July 01, 2008, 11:56:38 AM
Her pants are buttoned in the second picture.  Actually, she looks bigger in the first picture.


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Post by: dudley5 on July 01, 2008, 12:36:08 PM
I saw that, too Gwenn.  Things that make you go hmmmmm.

I STILL QUESTION THE POND SCUMS SAYING SHE IS PREGNANT AT ALL AND PEOPLE BELIEVING THEM....THAT IS WHY I HAD ASKED A FEW PAGES BACK WHERE IT WAS THAT IT WAS DIFFINATELY POSITIVILY PROVEN TO BE THE TRUTH....


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Post by: dudley5 on July 01, 2008, 12:38:06 PM
I saw that, too Gwenn.  Things that make you go hmmmmm.

Aha!  She's carrying a box of Cheerio's not Cinnamon toasted Crunch!  Therefore the tabloids are false! :lol



Good one, Theresa!   :lol

I'M TELLIN YA IF SHE WAS CARRYING CLAY'S CHILD SHE WOULD BE EATING AT BENIHANA'S FOUR TIMES A WEEK,  YELLING FOR CLAY TO GET HER PULLED PORK SANDWICHES WITH EXTRA SAUCE! :lol

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE, GIVING THE OPPURNITY... :waggle

 :lol  :lol   :lol  :lmao  :lmao  :lmao


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Post by: franniek54 on July 01, 2008, 12:40:33 PM
Her pants are buttoned in the second picture.  Actually, she looks bigger in the first picture.

You're right Micki.  Here's some bigger versions of those pics

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/th_0602_jaymes_foster_npg_exc_01-2.jpg) (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/0602_jaymes_foster_npg_exc_01-2.jpg)

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/th_0701_jaymes_foster_exc-1.jpg) (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/0701_jaymes_foster_exc-1.jpg)


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Post by: lovinclay on July 01, 2008, 12:41:42 PM
Actually, the clothes are different.  The jacket in the first one is black, in the second, it's navy.  The shoes are different, and the jeans are different.  In the first picture, the jeans are more bell-bottomed.  The legs are straighter in the second, and not as washed out looking.  I don't believe they were taken the same day.

Just call me Ms. Marple.   :lol


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Post by: dudley5 on July 01, 2008, 12:45:12 PM
I think she's wearing the same clothes in both pics.  I think they were taken on the same day and the first pic was used on 6/2, who knows when it was taken tho.

Clickable

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/th_0602_jaymes_foster_npg_exc_01-1.jpg) (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/0602_jaymes_foster_npg_exc_01-1.jpg)     Jaymes going to the store

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/th_0701_jaymes_foster_exc.jpg) (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/0701_jaymes_foster_exc.jpg)    Jaymes coming back from the store   :lol



SHE IS WEARING TWO DIFFERENT JACKETS IN THESE PICTURES.....IF YOU BLOW THEM UP YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE.....SO ONE MAY BE FROM YESTERDAY......


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Post by: fhmmany2 on July 01, 2008, 12:47:11 PM
She looks bigger in the first photo to me. How many of you who have children wore high heels during your last 2 months? My feet were so swollen I did good to get flat shoes on - no way I could have stumbled around in heels - and I was 22 when my last baby was born (20 when I had my first baby). And while we are on the subject - the tabloid story that she is planning to get pregnant with her second baby when this one is 6 months old - that is laughable. Having one baby after 50 is a miracle - no intelligent person could expect to get pregnant so easily at age 50 6 months after giving birth - that is the most stupid tabloid story so far (but I have no dobt that they can come up with something even wilder).


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Post by: lovinclay on July 01, 2008, 12:50:07 PM
She looks bigger in the first photo to me. How many of you who have children wore high heels during your last 2 months? My feet were so swollen I did good to get flat shoes on - no way I could have stumbled around in heels - and I was 22 when my last baby was born (20 when I had my first baby). And while we are on the subject - the tabloid story that she is planning to get pregnant with her second baby when this one is 6 months old - that is laughable. Having one baby after 50 is a miracle - no intelligent person could expect to get pregnant so easily at age 50 6 months after giving birth - that is the most stupid tabloid story so far (but I have no dobt that they can come up with something even wilder).


Absolutely right! 


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Post by: corbet on July 01, 2008, 01:26:46 PM

  Frankie,
   Those tabloid idiots are the stupidest creatures on this earth and also, the most evil.
      I just wish they would slither back into the swamp where they belong.
   
                                                             Betty


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Post by: Sundancer on July 01, 2008, 01:48:21 PM
Oh, I can think of a lot worse than people who write for the Enquirer--including those who read it and want it all to be true.


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Post by: GWENN on July 01, 2008, 02:20:33 PM
Oh, I can think of a lot worse than people who write for the Enquirer--including those who read it and want it all to be true.

 :clap :clap :clap

O/T---I HAVE THE CUTEST TOES IN LAFAYETTE HILL!!!!!!!!

AND BARRY WAS SO PARANOID WHEN I WAS PREGNANT WITH ER AFTER TRYING FOR 5 YEARS THAT HE WOULDN'T LET ME WEAR HEELS TO A BAR MITZVAH WHEN I WAS 4 MONTHS PREGNANT.   :bduh

WHAT EVAH.

GWENN


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Post by: claydevotee on July 01, 2008, 03:19:04 PM
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Oh, I can think of a lot worse than people who write for the Enquirer--including those who read it and want it all to be true.

 :word

RE the Jayme's pregnancy photos:   All I can say is that two of Jaymes at 8 (?) months pregnant could have fit into one of me at 6 months pregnant!!!  :lol


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Post by: claydevotee on July 01, 2008, 03:20:45 PM
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AND BARRY WAS SO PARANOID WHEN I WAS PREGNANT WITH ER AFTER TRYING FOR 5 YEARS THAT HE WOULDN'T LET ME WEAR HEELS TO A BAR MITZVAH WHEN I WAS 4 MONTHS PREGNANT.   


GWENN, so Barry had you wearing "sensible shoes" during your pregnancy, eh?  Just like Phil.   :lol


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Post by: claydevotee on July 01, 2008, 03:30:33 PM
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O/T---I HAVE THE CUTEST TOES IN LAFAYETTE HILL!!!!!!!!

Are they red with stars and stripes on each toe???? 


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Post by: fhmmany2 on July 01, 2008, 04:01:37 PM
 :wave

Just came on to post a magazine (Newsweek - No Clay). I was horrified to read an article in Newsweek called "Dishing Dirt". It listed the Top 5 gossip sites, and their hits per month. TMZ is #1 with 300 MILLION hits per month.  #2 is the Slime Bag with No Name (the one that has his own TV show now) - he gets 211 MILLION hits per month. the #3 site "only" gets 26 million hits.  I am beginning to think there is no hope - can't believe that many people have nothing better to do  :bduh And #1 and #2 seem to have it in for Clay  :para No wonder he has gone into hiding. Hope he is happy and having some fun wherever he is.


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Post by: clayharmony on July 01, 2008, 04:28:36 PM
While waiting for the steam cleaners to get here, I've been catching up on some of the On My Way Here reviews at Amazon...thought you'd enjoy reading this one...especially to help off set the ugly tabloid world view...we won't let it eclipse our joy and our love of our guy (and all whom he loves!)  Here it is:

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Listen to This Alone in the Dark, May 24, 2008
By  Elizabeth Simmons (Chicago, IL United States)

This album will deliver one hell of an emotional whop--if you choose to listen, and I mean carefully listen, to both the lyrics and the music. In interviews Clay has revealed that the theme of the album is what he has learned about himself and life over the past five years from both his private and professional experiences. Many Clay fans--myself included--have found our lives vastly enriched as we have cheered Clay on over these five years; we care about him a great deal, and we will certainly be reading particular significance into each song's meaning, as well as in the ordering of the songs in the album. However, Clay has also said that he expects that listeners--and that would also include those who know nothing at all of his history--will interpret and relate to the songs as they may apply to themselves. While you may not have been a young special education teacher who got thrown into the bizarre and often brutal world of pop music by virtue of (almost) winning a cheesy talent-contest show, you may have had a traumatic childhood that left you gun-shy in pursuing adult love relationships, you may have been confused as to the true nature of love and made some bad self-defeating mistakes because of that, you may have been in a situation where your character was very publicly and most unjustly slandered, you may have had something unbelievably awful happen to you and have asked why God did this to you, or you may have fallen into a deep depression and tried to talk yourself into getting up and moving forward to embrace life. But good miracles could have happened to you, too. You may have found love where you never expected to find it. This album is about faith and fear, but above all it is about the redemptive power of "real love" and the realization that indeed one does not just survive painful experiences but also, if one is fortunate, learns from them. I would hardly call this "lite pop music," would you?

May I suggest that you put your headphones on, sit alone in the dark with absolutely no other distractions, and listen to the album straight through. Consider the first song, "On My Way Here," as the end of the experience, or at least the "now," and move back in time as one song follows the next--all the way back to "Lover All Alone." Then listen to the album like this several more times, letting arise in your mind and heart what may. If something seems jarring--for example, does that old-fashioned crooner-type love song "There's Something about Us," speaking of "a perfectly perfect love," have somewhat of a mournful tone? What is that about? Consider that this may be deliberate, not a weakness on the part of the singer to connect to the song; look at the song in the context of the sentiments and the musical essence of the total album. I firmly believe that the musicianship, the production, and Clay's vocals and intonations on this album are all stunning and meaningful. Please don't let prejudice and misconceptions deprive you of fully enjoying and finally appreciating this very special album.


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Post by: quynn on July 01, 2008, 04:38:34 PM
:wave

Just came on to post a magazine (Newsweek - No Clay). I was horrified to read an article in Newsweek called "Dishing Dirt". It listed the Top 5 gossip sites, and their hits per month. TMZ is #1 with 300 MILLION hits per month.  #2 is the Slime Bag with No Name (the one that has his own TV show now) - he gets 211 MILLION hits per month. the #3 site "only" gets 26 million hits.  I am beginning to think there is no hope - can't believe that many people have nothing better to do  :bduh And #1 and #2 seem to have it in for Clay  :para No wonder he has gone into hiding. Hope he is happy and having some fun wherever he is.

Frankie, that is mystifying.  I read, a while back, that the number of hits doesn't necessarily mean the number of people.  Apparantly, each time you move from page to page within the website it's considered a hit, so if you read several differn't things, each one is counted as a hit.  Whatever, that's still way too many brain cells dying each month.  Whatever happened to reading books?


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Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 01, 2008, 05:05:13 PM
I went to Sirlinksalot and clicked on Clay Aiken as I always do. Tonight it read,As the Clayby turns. I clicked it BEFORE I realized it was TMZ. No need to give it any additional hits, but the jest of it was the same picture that has been shown here of Jaymes. The article said the same,...barely any sign of pregnancy. Hummmm, could the dirty little tabloid be trying to retract on their original story that MAY have been FABRICATED.


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Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 01, 2008, 05:09:20 PM
Sorry if I was not supposed to post that here, but I am so mad when Clay has to get hurt with articles :bang :bang  :bang
Thank you for hearing my rant!

Rosemary


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Post by: Sundancer on July 01, 2008, 05:09:27 PM
Just came on to post a magazine (Newsweek - No Clay). I was horrified to read an article in Newsweek called "Dishing Dirt". It listed the Top 5 gossip sites, and their hits per month. TMZ is #1 with 300 MILLION hits per month.  #2 is the Slime Bag with No Name (the one that has his own TV show now)... can't believe that many people have nothing better to do  :bduh
Truly! What does that say about us as a society? :doh


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Post by: claydevotee on July 01, 2008, 05:26:17 PM
Just came on to post a magazine (Newsweek - No Clay). I was horrified to read an article in Newsweek called "Dishing Dirt". It listed the Top 5 gossip sites, and their hits per month. TMZ is #1 with 300 MILLION hits per month.  #2 is the Slime Bag with No Name (the one that has his own TV show now)... can't believe that many people have nothing better to do  :bduh
Truly! What does that say about a society?

I think what disturbs me the most about these numbers is that so many of the viewers are teens and even preteens who have nothing better to do this summer than to watch garbage like this on TV  And during these years they are developing their "taste" in entertainment.  Heaven help us.  Whatever happened to hopping on a bicycle and going to the library to get some good books to read?  OK, I'm sounding like a real old fart right about now.   :para


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Post by: GWENN on July 01, 2008, 06:00:03 PM
I AM NOT ONE BIT SURPRISED BY THOSE NUMBERS.  WE ARE LIVING IN A SOCIETY RIGHT NOW THAT IS HAPPIEST WHEN IT IS TEARING DOWN SOMEONE.  HAPPIEST LAUGHING AT THOSE WHO MAY BE SUCCEEDING WHEN THEY ARE NOT.  THUMBING THEIR NOSES AT PEOPLE WITH VALUES AND CONSCIENCES.  THIS IS JUST AS I WOULD SUSPECT.  WHEN THE SCUM OF THE EARTH ARE MAKING MONEY ON THE BACKS ON THE "GOOD" FOLKS, WELL, THERE YOU HAVE IT.

GWEHNN


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Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 01, 2008, 06:06:53 PM
Exactly!!!


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Post by: lolita on July 01, 2008, 06:10:32 PM
I AM NOT ONE BIT SURPRISED BY THOSE NUMBERS.  WE ARE LIVING IN A SOCIETY RIGHT NOW THAT IS HAPPIEST WHEN IT IS TEARING DOWN SOMEONE.  HAPPIEST LAUGHING AT THOSE WHO MAY BE SUCCEEDING WHEN THEY ARE NOT.  THUMBING THEIR NOSES AT PEOPLE WITH VALUES AND CONSCIENCES.  THIS IS JUST AS I WOULD SUSPECT.  WHEN THE SCUM OF THE EARTH ARE MAKING MONEY ON THE BACKS ON THE "GOOD" FOLKS, WELL, THERE YOU HAVE IT.

GWEHNN

 :clap :clap :clap


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 01, 2008, 06:16:24 PM
I LOVE the Amazon review   :clap :clap :clap - thank you for bringing it here - makes be feel a lot better - I only wish that review would get 300 Million hits this month! 

It's been a long day here in the construction zone - see all of you tomorrow.  :ghug


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 01, 2008, 06:18:57 PM
I LOVE the Amazon review   :clap :clap :clap - thank you for bringing it here - makes be feel a lot better - I only wish that review would get 300 Million hits this month! 

  :thumb


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It's been a long day here in the construction zone - see all of you tomorrow.  :ghug

Nitey-nite! :dust


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 01, 2008, 06:22:31 PM
Let me just say this to every person who ever wrote an article for any tabloid......may all the tomatoes in you life be enriched with salmonella, may the botulinum (sp) gods dwell in your house, may there be crap wherever you step, and when you lay yourself down to sleep, may a swarm of killer bees land on you head.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 01, 2008, 06:25:23 PM
Let me just say this to every person who ever wrote an article for any tabloid......may all the tomatoes in you life be enriched with salmonella, may the botulinum (sp) gods dwell in your house, may there be crap wherever you step, and when you lay yourself down to sleep, may a swarm of killer bees land on you head.

   :para

<note to self: never p*ss off Micki> 

   :wink


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Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 01, 2008, 06:39:49 PM
lovinclay, :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: IChris1 on July 01, 2008, 06:50:33 PM
Let me just say this to every person who ever wrote an article for any tabloid......may all the tomatoes in you life be enriched with salmonella, may the botulinum (sp) gods dwell in your house, may there be crap wherever you step, and when you lay yourself down to sleep, may a swarm of killer bees land on you head.

and may that just be the beginning....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 01, 2008, 06:55:11 PM
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Let me just say this to every person who ever wrote an article for any tabloid......may all the tomatoes in you life be enriched with salmonella, may the botulinum (sp) gods dwell in your house, may there be crap wherever you step, and when you lay yourself down to sleep, may a swarm of killer bees land on you head.

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<note to self: never p*ss off Micki>  



 :lmao MICKI & SUNNY!!!!!   I'll definitely have to store that one away for the perfect occasion.   :para :para


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I AM NOT ONE BIT SURPRISED BY THOSE NUMBERS.  WE ARE LIVING IN A SOCIETY RIGHT NOW THAT IS HAPPIEST WHEN IT IS TEARING DOWN SOMEONE.  HAPPIEST LAUGHING AT THOSE WHO MAY BE SUCCEEDING WHEN THEY ARE NOT.  THUMBING THEIR NOSES AT PEOPLE WITH VALUES AND CONSCIENCES.  THIS IS JUST AS I WOULD SUSPECT.  WHEN THE SCUM OF THE EARTH ARE MAKING MONEY ON THE BACKS ON THE "GOOD" FOLKS, WELL, THERE YOU HAVE IT.
:clap  GWENN.    I only wish there were some way to break this cycle, but I have a bad feeling this trend will continue for many years to come.  

FRANKIE, focus on the big prize.....A brand new house!!!!

JOHANNA, I appreciate your bringing over the positive blog!!  :hugg

It's wonderful to see so many newer posters here.... :wave  LOLITA, LOVE CLAY ICHRIS and others!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 01, 2008, 07:12:23 PM
I JUST FINISHED BARBARA W'S BOOK.  WONDERFUL.  JUST WONDERFUL.  AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, AND VERY TIMELY WITH THIS DISCUSSION, SHE DECIDED TO LEAVE 20/20 BECAUSE OF WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.  PEOPLE WERE NO LONGER INTERESTED IN NEWS BUT WERE ONLY INTERESTED IN TABLOID TYPE CRAP.  SHE HAD A CHOICE OF INTERVIEWING THE PRESIDENT OF THE U. S. OR MARY JANE LE TURNBEAU (THE WOMAN WHO WENT TO JAIL FOR A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH A STUDENT AND LATER MARRIED HIM.)  SHE WAS TOLD TO INTERVIEW THE WOMAN AND NOT THE PRESIDENT.   :bduh :bduh :bduh  I AM MO LOVER OF MR. BUSH, BUT HE IS THE PRESIDENT FOR HEAVEN SAKE.  SHE KNEW IT WAS TIME TO GO.

AND MICKI, MY LOVE---NEXT TIME PLEASE TELL US HOW YOU REALLY FEEL.   :hugg

GWENN


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Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 01, 2008, 07:14:15 PM
Micki and Sunny - A ray of sunshine when we needed one


 :clap      :clap       :clap


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 01, 2008, 07:30:06 PM
Thank you claydevotee for the welcome. :hugg

Rosemary


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 01, 2008, 07:42:56 PM
I JUST FINISHED BARBARA W'S BOOK.  WONDERFUL.  JUST WONDERFUL.  AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, AND VERY TIMELY WITH THIS DISCUSSION, SHE DECIDED TO LEAVE 20/20 BECAUSE OF WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.  PEOPLE WERE NO LONGER INTERESTED IN NEWS BUT WERE ONLY INTERESTED IN TABLOID TYPE CRAP.  SHE HAD A CHOICE OF INTERVIEWING THE PRESIDENT OF THE U. S. OR MARY JANE LE TURNBEAU (THE WOMAN WHO WENT TO JAIL FOR A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH A STUDENT AND LATER MARRIED HIM.)  SHE WAS TOLD TO INTERVIEW THE WOMAN AND NOT THE PRESIDENT.   :bduh :bduh :bduh  I AM MO LOVER OF MR. BUSH, BUT HE IS THE PRESIDENT FOR HEAVEN SAKE.  SHE KNEW IT WAS TIME TO GO.

The leader of the most powerful nation on earth... or a bimbo who seduced one of her students... and they told her to choose the bimbo. Disgraceful.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lucrezianoine on July 01, 2008, 09:46:06 PM
I saw that, too Gwenn.  Things that make you go hmmmmm.

Aha!  She's carrying a box of Cheerio's not Cinnamon toasted Crunch!  Therefore the tabloids are false! :lol



Good one, Theresa!   :lol

I'M TELLIN YA IF SHE WAS CARRYING CLAY'S CHILD SHE WOULD BE EATING AT BENIHANA'S FOUR TIMES A WEEK,  YELLING FOR CLAY TO GET HER PULLED PORK SANDWICHES WITH EXTRA SAUCE! :lol

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE, GIVING THE OPPURNITY... :waggle

 :lol  :lol   :lol  :lmao  :lmao  :lmao

 :lmao  :roflmao Oh Geez Philly..

 :bduh She doesn't even look pregnant or I need extra strength lenses on my glasses..:rose

Jules


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lucrezianoine on July 01, 2008, 10:15:19 PM
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This album will deliver one hell of an emotional whop--if you choose to listen, and I mean carefully listen, to both the lyrics and the music.

Thanks clayharmony  for bringing that here. Its always nice to read comments like these about the new CD on Amazon or anywhere else. The only thing that irks me though is the comments from other fans who were disappointed in this new CD and granted that is abosolutely fine but  to read some comments like this "those who enjoyed this CD or gave it high reviews must be the diehard claymates" on Amazon, I'm like what's that supposed to mean? :bduh  :bduh

And why oh why do some of them can't move past his first CD? Even my sister whom I gave a copy of this CD was like expecting it to be more like MOAM.  :soapbox 

Maybe I'm one of the stone deaf fans :roflmao

Jules



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 02, 2008, 12:03:54 AM
Your welcome Jules, fhmmany2 , Thea and Sunny...I am still making my way with the reviews over there, in between the yucky job I've taken on trying to spruce things up around here. 

[I think the steam cleaners thought I was a little nuts spending money on a sectional I was given for free by a friend, who had received it herself from a friend...you know how that goes... it's probably 25 years old...and speaking of old...I still have/had my grandmother's oak bedroom set...and the bed finally crashed one night last week...oh yeah, it was only about 110 degrees...and I was trying to keep cool, sleeping on the 'sofa'...no go...tried to amuse myself on the Internet and Earthlink crashed...which it almost never does!...and then a cable channel went out in the middle of that night, too...some times things get a little wonky, don't they. ] (My decor used to be called 'early divorce' ...but I hate to tell you how out of date that handy descriptor is... :wink)

BTW Jules, you are hardly stone deaf... quite the opposite, I believe.  And, Jaymes...I sure hope that she is finding a zone of peace and love somewhere as she awaits the birth of her child.  May she know how many Clay fans wish her well and hope that this amazing time in her life brings her great happiness.  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 02, 2008, 05:03:29 AM
 :wave

Good Morning!

We are off to buy building supplies - some that have been on order have come in  :clap  The carpenters are ripping out an existing bathroom this morning, so it is a good time to leave!

Hope this is a great day in the Clay Nation - since I will be gone from the computer all day, Clay will probably blog!!!!!!  :clap  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 02, 2008, 05:12:57 AM



                                WELL OFF TO WORK CAN'T KEEP O MIGHTY DOWN FOR LONG. :roflmao :roflmao

                                        ITS WITH MARY


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 02, 2008, 05:50:49 AM
IT IS A WONDERFULLY BEAUTIFUL DAY.  OFF TO MARION'S WITH MY BEST NONCLAY FRIEND.  WE ARE GOING TO A BEACH CONCERT WITH SOME OF MARION'S NONCLAY FRIENDS.  IT AIN'T CLAY, BUT IT WILL BE TONS OF FUN.  THEN TOMORROW, DOWN TO MY NIECE'S FOR THE FOURTH.  LIFE IS GOOD.

GLORY--HAVE FUN WORKING.   :bigsmile  GLAD YOU ARE FEELING BETTER.

FRANKIE--WITH CONSTRUCTION, ALL YOU CAN SAY IS EACH DAY IS ONE DAY LESS OF THE MESS.   :hugg  DON'T WORRY ABOUT CLAY BLOGGING.  AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN ANY TIME SOON.  THE BEST WE CAN HOPE FOR IS STUFF ON THE FIELDNOTES SITE FOR SOMALIA. 

EVERYONE----HAVE A GREAT DAY.  WILL CHECK IN FROM MARION'S.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 02, 2008, 06:41:26 AM
A wish for a great day from me, as well!   1 more day before a houseful of overnight guests arrives for the weekend. So much cooking and cleaning to do.   Happy times!  :bouncy
GWENN and MARION, have fun.  :hugg 
FRANKIE, "endure to the end" .   

 Love to all.  :ghug

CLAY CONTENT:    :please be safe.  :please

 :sonic :moped



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Post by: clayfannj on July 02, 2008, 07:56:41 AM
Fourth of July starts early here on the Jersey Shore... Sunset Beach concert tonight.. on Sandy Hook...a pristene National Park... Free  AMAZING concerts. Gwenn and Niki coming.... staying over...Walking the beach... Sunset.......Amazing band , glass of wine...dance floor in the sand....
" hmmmm..




                  Livin' on.........RICE CAKES....(what? I'm on a diet!!!)   ..... :music :music :music
                 'WATCHING THE Sun BAKE...

                  All of the TOURISTS COVERED IN OIL!!!........ :music :music

                  (brings out my Jimmy Buffet!!) :bigsmile :music :music :music

And right now..just like you,Thea  .....  VACUUMING!!!!!!! :lol


Have a fun Day, Everyone!!!!!


WHERE IS CLAY?????




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 02, 2008, 08:09:31 AM









WHERE IS CLAY?????






He's with ME......celebrating the 4th!    :purpbana :purpbana


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 02, 2008, 08:18:34 AM
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  Livin' on.........RICE CAKES....(what? I'm on a diet!!!)   .....   
                 'WATCHING THE Sun BAKE...

                  All of the TOURISTS COVERED IN OIL!!!........ 

                  (brings out my Jimmy Buffet!!)   


 :lmao  :clap MARION.  You have made Mr. Buffet very proud..... undoubtedly!!!!

As to Clay celebrating the 4th with you, MICKI, be sure to keep his long, lean , lithe freckled body slathered with sunscreen!!!   Lawdy, is it getting hot in here???   :slick  :fan2



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 02, 2008, 08:21:40 AM
As to Clay celebrating the 4th with you, MICKI, be sure to keep his long, lean , lithe freckled body slathered with sunscreen!!! 

As if she plans on letting him outside. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 02, 2008, 08:31:22 AM
As to Clay celebrating the 4th with you, MICKI, be sure to keep his long, lean , lithe freckled body slathered with sunscreen!!! 

As if she plans on letting him outside. :wink

Guffaw!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 02, 2008, 09:17:38 AM
As Ms. Sunny stated, I wasn't planning on letting him out, but I just may have to rethink that.  Applying suntan lotion to that body is tempting.   :thud


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayHeart on July 02, 2008, 11:17:53 AM
I also hope Clay is having a relaxing time, whatever he's doing.  I assume he's back from Somalia.  I'm so excited that we have off Thursday and Friday for the Fourth of July.  Short work week  :purpbana.  Have a happy Fourth everyone.

Just a thought, but I feel that we sometimes are more upset about what is happening to Clay than Clay is.  He's pretty tough and more than a little stubborn on occasion.  I just don't see him losing much sleep over the gossip and haters.  At least I hope he's not losing much sleep!!  We need OMC happy and alert!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 02, 2008, 11:39:16 AM
I hope Clay is home too!! I just wanted to say that we should continue to pray for him.  I f you look at the shots he has to take for these trips, and the side effects...ouch!  Also, for weeks after he returns, he'll be on medication.  Also many lousy side effects.  We have friends that take mission trips alot and people tend to forget all the preparations (shots) and after effects. (meds)  God bless Clay.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 02, 2008, 12:43:06 PM

  Mimi,
          We have been so busy thinking about his safety, we have forgotten about all
    the shots he would have to take. They can make you feel pretty awful. The kind of
       places he goes to exposes him to many miserable illnesses. If I ever hear anyone
       call him a wimp I"ll hit them over the head. It takes a very strong man to do what
       he does.    We certainly don"t hear of those haters having the courage to do these
       things.         
                                           Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 02, 2008, 12:44:17 PM
Just a thought, but I feel that we sometimes are more upset about what is happening to Clay than Clay is. 
Probably a safe bet. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 02, 2008, 12:51:01 PM
Personal post...Feel free to scroll.

I went to the grocery store to stock up for the weekend.  When I got home Phil was shivering in bed under about 4 blankets with a sweatshirt on.  I took his temperature (men never think to do that  :bang) and he had a 103.4 fever.  Of course I've given him Tylenol and lots of water.  I called the doctor and he said to just keep an eye on him.    Hopefully it's just a short-term virus.  Prayers would be appreciated, as of course in the back of my mind I'm worried about a blood infection or something from the stent he had put in his artery last fall.    Thank you.   :ghug :pray

Never a dull moment, eh????

And now back to regularly-scheduled  :thud :thud :thud ing!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lolita on July 02, 2008, 01:20:40 PM
Personal post...Feel free to scroll.

I went to the grocery store to stock up for the weekend.  When I got home Phil was shivering in bed under about 4 blankets with a sweatshirt on.  I took his temperature (men never think to do that  :bang) and he had a 103.4 fever.  Of course I've given him Tylenol and lots of water.  I called the doctor and he said to just keep an eye on him.    Hopefully it's just a short-term virus.  Prayers would be appreciated, as of course in the back of my mind I'm worried about a blood infection or something from the stent he had put in his artery last fall.    Thank you.   :ghug :pray

Never a dull moment, eh????

And now back to regularly-scheduled  :thud :thud :thud ing!

Thea, prayers for you husband...I hope it is nothing serious.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 02, 2008, 02:39:34 PM
Thea...  :hugg ...for Phil:  :cross and Glory...I hope you are back to your energetic self, too!  :wave  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 02, 2008, 02:58:37 PM
Thanks so much, LOLITA and JOHANNA.  You are very sweet and so kind.  :hugg  His temp is down to about 100.4 right now.  I'm hoping this is just a short-term bug. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: IChris1 on July 02, 2008, 03:08:34 PM
Hey Guys, lookie what I found:


Source: United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF)

Date: 01 Jul 2008

UNICEF Ambassador, Clay Aiken, says organization is making a difference in Somalia despite difficult circumstances
American entertainer visits north-west Somalia and urges the world to remember Somali children

Nairobi, Kenya, Tuesday 1 July 2008 – A five-day visit to north-west Somalia (the self-declared republic of ‘Somaliland’) has UNICEF Ambassador, Clay Aiken, moved by the work that UNICEF is doing under challenging circumstances. ‘In a country that’s better known for conflict, insecurity, drought and floods, it’s truly remarkable that UNICEF is still able to make a difference to the health, education and well-being of Somali children’ said Aiken.

The ambassador traveled to Hargeisa, Gabiley and Boroma to see first-hand, UNICEF-supported projects to promote child health, safe water, sanitation and hygiene, primary education, child protection and girls’ empowerment.

Somalia is a country in which less than 25% of the population has access to basic health services, less than 30% attend primary school and only 29% have access to a safe water source. It's also a place where 98% of girls are circumcised and has amongst the highest maternal mortality rates in the world.

Playing basketball with girls in the enclosed facility of the Somaliland Cultural and Sports Association (SOCSA), Aiken saw the opportunity given to females by the UNICEF-supported organization. ‘Here, girls are able to learn about leadership and health, acquire life-skills and play sports within a safe environment. Even the youngest girls that I’ve met at SOCSA, impressed me with how confident and articulate they are as a result of this project.’

At a camp for 1500 internally displaced families in Hargeisa, Aiken met 11 year old Abduraman, who helps to support his five siblings and blind mother by working each morning to collect stones. He uses his earnings to pay for school which he attends in the afternoon. ‘Somalia has some of the lowest enrollment rates in the world, but every child has the right to an education. UNICEF is working to help ensure that even working children get to go to school.’ UNICEF has also provided the camp with child protection monitors, teacher-training and school materials.

In Boroma, Aiken saw how the town’s water system is functioning thanks to UNICEF support. Under a public/private partnership, the system provides clean water to 95% of the town’s population including schools and hospitals. Aiken also visited maternal and child health clinics to see nutritional feeding and immunization activities along with projects supporting children with disabilities, the eradication of female genital mutilation/cutting and the prevention of mother-to-child transmission of HIV.

‘Now that I have seen Somalia for myself, I feel it is important for the American public to remember that the Somali people have the same dreams for their children that we do. Somali families still want the best for their children and people really want to help bring about change. Though the situation in Somaliland is less dangerous for children than in the south, the country is one of the most desperate in the world. The country has been without a functioning government for almost twenty years. Fortunately, UNICEF has always been there and continues to provide the support needed to make a difference. No other organization is more capable of making such a difference than UNICEF."



http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900SID/EGUA-7G6RLY?OpenDocument

Looks like Clay has been in Africa for five days.  No pictures yet  but at least we know where he's been.     :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 02, 2008, 03:16:12 PM
 :clap :clap :clap CHRIS, thanks so very much for bringing that article over.  I am so proud of Clay right now I could burst!!!!!  :shappy :shappy  So while TMZ  and no-name slime creature continue to drag Clay and Jaymes through the muck, Clay is in Somalia trying to make a difference for the less fortunate children of the world. We've been talking about "perspective" here lately, and this is a perfect example of what is and is not important in life. 



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Post by: IChris1 on July 02, 2008, 03:21:02 PM
I sure hope there's video of Clay playing basketball with the girls. :please


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Post by: claydevotee on July 02, 2008, 04:20:12 PM
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I sure hope there's video of Clay playing basketball with the girls.


 :roflmao  What a hoot that would be to watch!  I also hope they got some good footage!

Update on hubby.  His fever is breaking now.  I'm starting to think he was suffering from heat exhaustion.  He's been very stubborn lately about turning on the air conditioning in the hot weather!   :bduh  :bang   It's the "cheap Scotsman" in him that comes out periodically.   :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 02, 2008, 04:38:21 PM
  Thea,
         I"m so sorry your husband is sick, a temperature like that is scary. Glad to hear it is coming down.
    I hope it"s just a virus and nothing to do with the stent.
            Clay is doing such a wonderful job and I know we are all so proud of him.
        A picture of him playing basketball with the girls would be great.  Come to think of it ,any picture of
        him would be great.                         

                                                Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 02, 2008, 05:10:27 PM
Thea - glad your hubby is feeling a little better.  Hopefully, he'll feel good as new by tomorrow.


I read the article on Relief Web and it made me sad just by reading it.  I can't imaging how Clay feels after spending five days there and seeing people in the most severe conditions imageable.  That has got to have an affect on him -- how could you see all that and not be affected.

After all this, he certainly deserves some down time and I hope he is getting some R & R and not concentrating too much on what he saw--he can, and does, bring attention to the situation -- but he can't solve it all by himself. 


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Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 02, 2008, 05:14:28 PM
Love the Unicef article regarding Clay's trip!  :clap

So proud of him.  He is so passionate about helping children who are in harm's way. I love it when he is quoted.  He lets us experience what he is seeing and feeling . .  in his own words. Hopefully, his words will result in a generous response from the public so that Unicef can continue their work.

We sure picked a winner! :hugg   


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Post by: lolita on July 02, 2008, 05:16:20 PM
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r70/busila/th_2008somalia.jpg) (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r70/busila/2008somalia.jpg)

Thanks Tiffany...finally, Clay in Somalia...

*edited to make clickable - ang


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: IChris1 on July 02, 2008, 05:24:02 PM
I love Clay Aiken so much  :heartburst


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 02, 2008, 05:35:53 PM
I love Clay Aiken so much  :heartburst



Me too, Irene


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 02, 2008, 06:05:31 PM
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I love Clay Aiken so much 


He's quite an amazing guy, isn't he!  I  He certainly has captured my heart, as well.  :heartburst

BETTY and WILSON BARB, thanks so much for the good wishes.  :hugg :hugg  He seems to be doing much better tonight.  Normally I wouldn't have been so concerned, but I can see you understand why I am.  Thank you.   Here's hoping he'll wake up tomorrow as good as new!!!

 Also, my mother is going back home tomorrow after her hip surgery and rehabilitation.  God bless my brother for flying out to pick her up and assist in her readjustment to RL.   I'll be going back late next week to help her a bit more, and then hopefully she'll be able to have a better quality of life than she's had for the past several years.  Again, thanks to all here on CM for your good thoughts and prayers during this time.   :ghug



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 02, 2008, 06:11:38 PM
ICHRIS, I just read WILSON BARB'S response to you post and figured out that your RL name is IRENE....not "CHRIS" .   :blush  :bduh  From now on I'll try to remember that when I address you in my posts. 



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 02, 2008, 06:31:09 PM



                                     THEA HOPE PHIL IS DOING BETTER. :hugg
                                 

                                          IS IT OK FOR ME TO SMUT. :roflmao :roflmao BETTER NOT BOY IT WAS A GOOD ONE.  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 02, 2008, 06:41:18 PM



                                     THEA HOPE PHIL IS DOING BETTER. :hugg 
IS IT OK FOR ME TO SMUT. :roflmao :roflmao BETTER NOT BOY IT WAS A GOOD ONE.  :lol


 

Thanks, GLORY!  :hugg

And far as "smutting", I think a few of us were dancing around that earlier today!!!  After all, MICKI is "hosting" him this weekend in her home!!!  :lol
                                 

                                         


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: IChris1 on July 02, 2008, 06:46:07 PM
ICHRIS, I just read WILSON BARB'S response to you post and figured out that your RL name is IRENE....not "CHRIS" .   :blush  :bduh  From now on I'll try to remember that when I address you in my posts. 



Thea, my screen name is IChris which is I for Irene and Chris for Christian (my last name).  I get called Chris all the time so I'm really used to it.  I even named my daughter Christine so she was Chris Christian until she got married.    :lol  :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 02, 2008, 06:59:51 PM
Finally some News from OMC, and look like he's back with the darker hair...You've got to love the guy, long sleeve shirt in hot tempa zone....well, I guess that was to protect his pale skin from getting sunburned.....

Hope he is home safely and can enjoy his holiday with his family & friends.

I am so proud of Clay ,and I look forward to hearing more about his trip.(and also seeing more photos).

Thea~ Sorry to hear Phil is ill..Hope he will be feeling better soon.

Glory~ I'm glad to see you are feeling better..Just proves you can't keep a good woman down. :bighug

Oh! and by the way have I said today..I Love Clay Aiken!! :luv


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 02, 2008, 07:14:59 PM
I finally sat down to read the morning paper a few minutes ago and came across something I had to share.  This is from the Daily Horoscope by Jeraldine Saunders that is included in the Raleigh N & O every day.

Clay's horoscope for today:

Your momentum is building like a runaway train.  You are at the top of your game and likely to succeed in all that you attempt.  Keep a positive outlook and avoid being drawn into turmoil.



I'm not a big believer in horoscopes but part of it definitely applies to Clay and I certainly hope the rest of it is true.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 02, 2008, 07:19:28 PM
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Your momentum is building like a runaway train.  You are at the top of your game and likely to succeed in all that you attempt.  Keep a positive outlook and avoid being drawn into turmoil.
Any other Sagittarians here?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 02, 2008, 07:42:18 PM
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Your momentum is building like a runaway train.  You are at the top of your game and likely to succeed in all that you attempt.  Keep a positive outlook and avoid being drawn into turmoil.
Any other Sagittarians here?

I'm one, too!   :pickme  For me, I'll hang on to the part about keeping a positive outlook.   :smile

I hope all of it is true for Clay, too, Barbara.  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 02, 2008, 07:48:08 PM
He wears light color for the heat and long sleeves to protect from mosquito carrying malaria, very dangerous if you get bitten.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 02, 2008, 08:17:27 PM


                                         I JUST ADORE YOUR AVIE MIMI SOMETIMES I WISH WE COULD GO BACK TO THOSE DAYS OF INNOCENCE WITHOUT THE SWAMP DWELLERS,
 
I REMEMBER THE EXCITMENT AND ELECTRICITY IN THE AIR.IN FT. WAYNE THEA REMEMBER, AND IN INDY.AT THE FAIR GROUNDS.I GUESS PEOPLE MOVE ON I NEVER DID, AND I AM GLAD I WAS HERE FOR THE RIDE CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT CHAPTER TO UNFOLD. :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 02, 2008, 08:26:40 PM
 :wave

I haven't had time to read back to see what I missed today, but I am happy that we finally have a Somolia photo!  :purpbana Way to go Clay!!!!

Good Night, everybody - see you tomorrow!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 02, 2008, 08:37:59 PM
I'd love to go back to those GREAT CLAY DAYS...sweet, fun, exciting, uplifting...you just knew you were watching something special.  And we followed all the way, thru everything and we have NO intentions of leaving. NO NEVER.   We are on for the fill ride!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayfannj on July 02, 2008, 09:34:22 PM
HELLO FROM MARION'S.  WE HAD A PERFECTLY POERFECT DAY.  THE BEACH WAS GORGEOUS.  THE BAND WAS GREAT  THE COMPANY WAS FABULOUS.

AND THEN WE COME HOME TO A PIC!!!!!!!  FINALLY A PIC AND SOME INFO FROM THE MAN.  HE LOOKS AMAZING.  GORGEOUS.  AND WHITE PANTS!!!!  OF, IF HE WOULD ONLY STAND UP FOR US.  WALK A LITTLE.  WE NEED A FULL FRONTAL.  WE NEED TO CHECK OUT....THE GOATEE.  YES, THE FACIAL HAIR.  WHAT DID YOU THINK I WAS REFERRING TO?????? :thud :thud :thud :thud

THEA--GLAD PHIL IS BETTER.

IRENE--THANKS FOR BRINGING OVER THE INFO AND THE HOT NEW PIC. 

NOW, I AM A PIG.  WE NEED MORE.  LOTS MORE.  VIDEO.  AUDIO.  MORE.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 03, 2008, 03:22:11 AM
Thea, continued prayers for Phil's recovery.  You have a busy weekend coming up.  Enjoy!

Glory, looks like you're back to your old self.

Irene, what a wonderful report!  Thanks for bringing that over.

Lolita, thank you for bringing the first picture of Clay in Somalia!  He looks great!

I have no other words but, I love and respect him!   :heartburst


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wvclayfan on July 03, 2008, 07:36:15 AM
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r70/busila/2008somalia.jpg]
Trying to catch up after being on vacation, but that picture of Clay from his UNICEF trip is enough to stop someone dead in her tracks. Wow ... :gish



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 03, 2008, 07:44:05 AM
Good morning, dear CM'ers!!!!  :ghug

So glad to see everybody checking in! 

 Phil seems to have bounced back from his health setback yesterday.  I still maintain that it was heat exhaustion or heat stroke.  We Midwesterners tend to be wimps when it comes to dealing with heat and humidity!

Off to the airport in about an hour to pick up half of our houseful for the weekend.  I definitely will have to cure P's girlfriend of calling me "Mrs. Mc".  That's how she addresses me in her e-mails.  I can't wait to meet her.  Older son & fiancee will be driving in from Chicago tomorrow afternoon.  They'll be going to see the big fireworks extravaganza at Grant Park in Chicago this evening.  After that I'm sure they'll be very impressed with our dinky little fireworks display  tomorrow night in smalltown, America!!!!   :para  :lol

Off to see the big "Clay in Somalia" reveal.......Hope it's only the first of many photos to come.  'Wish he could end up on the cover of Time Magazine in recognition of UNICEF'S noble efforts to help children in need. Is that asking too much???

Hope to check in occasionally this weekend.  Be safe and enjoy this wonderful weekend.  God Bless America and especially our special young men and women fighting for our freendom all over the world. !!!  :usa


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 03, 2008, 07:49:50 AM
http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/somalia_44691.html

Not sure if this has been posted or not, but here's a link to an official UNICEF press release about Clay in Somalia.


 :moped


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayfannj on July 03, 2008, 10:13:26 AM
He sure does look wonderful in that UNICEF pic.. AND...he takes a much "happier" picture that Jaymes has been taking....!!! :bduh :bduh

WHAT'S UP WITH THAT????


Had a wonderful time with Gwenn and her friend... We had brunch and the gals are on their way home...

Happy 4th to all out there....  Enjoy your plans in the coming weekend...


Quote
Be safe and enjoy this wonderful weekend.  God Bless America and especially our special young men and women fighting for our freendom all over the world. !!! 


 :yeahthat

Clay content:  Somalia pic
Especially after seeing how other citizens are treated by their own countries.....Whatever the beef  one has with our govt. keep in mind  that the world so often turns to the U.S. and it's compassionate citizens for help...And we do and we will!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 03, 2008, 10:34:26 AM
This looks like the Clay hair and beard color, and style, of the widely circulated Clay and Jaymes photo. 

AM I MISSING SOMETHING????????

I AM HOME.  I JUST REREAD THE UNICEF ARTICLE.  HOW SMART AND ARTICULATE HE IS.  HOW PROUD OF HIM WE ALL ARE.  AND I LOVE THAT THROUGHOUT THE ARTICLE, HE IS REFERRED TO AS---MR. AIKEN.  RESPECT.  LOVE THAT.

GOTTA GO UNPACK.  MARION IS THE BEST HOSTESS.   :hugg

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 03, 2008, 10:55:06 AM
SAW THIS AT THE CH--

Quote
From CV...

Quote:
One of the other boards I was on was discussing Clays trip to Africa. She has friends who take mission trips all the time. She brought up the fact that he would have had to have multiple shots, including experiencing some not so good side effects, and then would probably have to take medication when he gets back, also with many side effects.
When she got to his attire, this also got my heart :

"He wears light color for the heat and long sleeves to protect from mosquito carrying malaria, very dangerous if you get bitten."

I never thought about this part of his trip. I knew he went to dangerous places where violence is the norm, but the thought of his risking infectious diseases makes me marvel even more at the risk he takes.

THIS MAY EXPLAIN WHY HE WAS NOT AT RUBEN'S WEDDING. HE COULD HAVE BEEN FEELING PRETTY BAD.

AND THE GOATEE IS JUST LUSCIOUS STUBBLE.  SAW A VERY MUCH ENLARGED VERSION AT THE CH FROM CV. 

GOD, I LOVE HIM.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 03, 2008, 11:01:37 AM
He looks hot. I mean, temperature-wise. Weather-wise.

Oh, forget it. :blush


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 03, 2008, 11:19:52 AM
YEAH, RIGHT, SUNNY.  TEMPERATURE WISE.   :wink :bigsmile :thud

GWENN

ETA---FROM CV.  NO WONDER CLAY DIDN'T MAKE THE WEDDING.

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Goggle Alert - Earthtimes - Dated July 3 Kenya - that in part says that Clay Aiken left Africa TODAY



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 03, 2008, 11:52:08 AM
That quote from CV is from Me!!  We quote each other that's neat!  God bless Clay


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 03, 2008, 11:58:41 AM
That quote from CV is from Me!!  We quote each other that's neat!  God bless Clay

OMG.  I HAD NO IDEA.  DIFFERENT SCREEN NAMES.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ILClaymate on July 03, 2008, 12:03:19 PM
:wave

New tagged hi-res version (clickable).....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/ILClaymate/Unicef/th_Clay_Aiken_in_Somalia_Denise_Shephe.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/ILClaymate/Unicef/Clay_Aiken_in_Somalia_Denise_Shephe.jpg)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: IChris1 on July 03, 2008, 12:12:46 PM
:wave

New tagged hi-res version (clickable).....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/ILClaymate/Unicef/th_Clay_Aiken_in_Somalia_Denise_Shephe.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/ILClaymate/Unicef/Clay_Aiken_in_Somalia_Denise_Shephe.jpg)


OMG  He is just  :yum :yum :yum


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 03, 2008, 12:50:46 PM
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He sure does look wonderful in that UNICEF pic.. AND...he takes a much "happier" picture that Jaymes has been taking....!!! 

WHAT'S UP WITH THAT????


Clay is not pregnant in July!!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 03, 2008, 01:23:42 PM



                                  I FEEL LIKE CRAP COULD BE THAT POUND OF CHOCOLATES I JUST CONSUMED TELL ME THE TRUTH DO YA THINK THAT IS WHAT DID IT. :roflmao :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 03, 2008, 02:52:09 PM
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MARION.  SHE SURE DOESN'T LOOK HAPPY.  MYSELF, I WAS PREGNANT AND IN MY THIRD TRIMESTER IN JULY.  I WAS SO THRILLED TO FINALLY BE PREGNANT, I DIDN'T CARE.  BUT, I WASN'T 50 EITHER.  MAYBE SHE IS THROWING UP EVERY DAY.  MY BEST FRIEND DID THAT AND SHE ONLY GAINED LIKE 18 POUNDS.  MAYBE THAT IS WHY SHE LOOKS SO THIN.  I LOVED BEING PREGNANT.  I GRINNED ALL THE TIME.  SICK OR WELL.  I JUST WANTED A KID SO BAD.  NOTHING ELSE MATTERED.

GLORY--IF I ATE A POUND OF CHOCOLATE, I WOULD BE ON SPEED FROM ALL THE CAFFEINE. :bouncy :bouncy :bouncy

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 03, 2008, 03:28:15 PM
GLORY--IF I ATE A POUND OF CHOCOLATE, I WOULD BE ON SPEED FROM ALL THE CAFFEINE. :bouncy :bouncy :bouncy

Oh yeah, that's just what Glory needs! :sonic


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 03, 2008, 03:43:13 PM
LADIES---LET US PRAY THAT THIS IS NOT IN OUR FUTURE.   THANKS TO THE "ALWAYS READING THE NEWS" MS. MARION:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1376290.ece

OY JUST DOESN'T COVER THIS.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 03, 2008, 04:08:00 PM



                                                YEP.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 03, 2008, 04:14:36 PM
SOS for the cooks here...eep...I think I should have asked this beforehand!  :bduh  ...I'm actually in a cooking mode...that's miracle enough...yeah, finally rested enough to give it a go...OK...made a pasta salad from the Hollywood Bowl cookbook...that I know worked...and should be enough for 3x the folks I'll share it with tomorrow...now for the kitchen trauma!... I love soups...cold, warm...whatever...I tried to make an 'icy cucumber soup'...now the last time I tried this, the blender starting smoking just as I puree'd it.  (Funny how a wedding gift from the early 80s wears out, yep...  :blush).  This time it's all a go...new blender ready...I had to time making the roux...that flower/butter thickening step...and timed cooking it beyond just as it said.  Everyone ready...here's the Q... should I have just puree'd it for a second or so...I left it go a little longer...does that mean the soup won't be creamy...but lots thiner?  As you would say  Gwenn, OY!  

Clay content...I kept wondering if he would enjoy the pasta...I think its a winner...I guess he'd be allergic to the soup...it calls for dairy..some half and half.

Thanks in advance for any tips...I'm going to try and conquer this soup thing!!!  :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 03, 2008, 04:20:26 PM
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He sure does look wonderful in that UNICEF pic.. AND...he takes a much "happier" picture that Jaymes has been taking....!!! 

WHAT'S UP WITH THAT????


Clay is not pregnant in July!!!!!!

 :lmao :lmao  FRANNIE, In fact, he doesn't seem to be "showing" at all!!!! 

Quote
LADIES---LET US PRAY THAT THIS IS NOT IN OUR FUTURE.   THANKS TO THE "ALWAYS READING THE NEWS" MS. MARION:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1376290.ece

OY JUST DOESN'T COVER THIS.

GWENN, but "oy" is at least a good start!!!  :headache :eek :eek   

JOHANNA, I haven't a clue.  But "creamy" or "thin", the soup sounds yummy to me!!!

P and his beloved are here.  Taking lots of long walks and drives to get away from us!!! :lol  She is absolutely gorgeous , intelligent and very sweet.  I can see why P is so smitten.  Oy, I wonder if another wedding is in the not so distant future???




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 03, 2008, 04:22:12 PM
Just saw a very short clip of Clay on ET.  It was obviously filmed before he went to Somalia because his hair was still blond.

Of course, they had to lead into the clip saying "Dad to be, Clay Aiken"  talks about his UNICEF trips and said he (and others) will be making public service announcements about their desire to help children.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 03, 2008, 04:23:06 PM
LADIES---LET US PRAY THAT THIS IS NOT IN OUR FUTURE.   THANKS TO THE "ALWAYS READING THE NEWS" MS. MARION:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1376290.ece

OY JUST DOESN'T COVER THIS.

GWENN

If she'd had twin girls, I wonder if they would have tried again... :hypno


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 03, 2008, 05:30:04 PM
I just saw ET, too - at least the CNN show is getting some publicity  :clap


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 03, 2008, 06:14:32 PM
HERE COMES A RANT.

I AM SOOOOO ANNOYED THAT THE ET THING STARTED WITH THE --

SOON TO BE FATHER--- (PARAPHRASING)

CRAP.  WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH UNICEF?????  I TOLD BARRY ABOUT IT.  HE SAYS---WELL WRITE THEM  WE CAN'T DO THAT.  IT DOESN'T WORK.  THIS MAN DESERVES RESPECT.  WHAT HE DOES IN HIS PERSONAL LIFE HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS WONDERFUL PROGRAM.  OR HIM GOING TO AFRICA TO THIS AWFUL PLACE.  I AM SORRY.  I AM ANNOYED.  I MAY NOT LIKE HIS CHOICES IN HIS PERSONAL LIFE, BUT WHAT THAT HAS TO DO WITH HIS PHILANTHROPIC PERSONA MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.

I AM SOOOOOOOOOOO TIRED OF THIS.  WHY CLAY????? HE IS A GOOD AND CARING MAN.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 03, 2008, 06:24:59 PM



                       BET THEY DIDN'T GET HIS APPROVAL FOR THAT EITHER. I WISH HE WOULD SUE ALL OF THEM ESPECIALLY IF IT'S NOT TRUE.

                         I AGREE GWENN.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 03, 2008, 06:50:32 PM
I don't think ET added the "soon-to-be father" part as an insult, or as a show of disrespect to Clay. They probably thought it would make their little lead-in a bit "juicier." :shrug


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lucrezianoine on July 03, 2008, 07:04:53 PM

I AM SOOOOO ANNOYED THAT THE ET THING STARTED WITH THE --

SOON TO BE FATHER--- (PARAPHRASING)

CRAP.  WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH UNICEF?????  I AM SOOOOOOOOOOO TIRED OF THIS. 

Gwenn  BIG :word on this. I too am tired of this. I don't care if it wasn't meant as an insult these tabloid/tv/entertainment programs just needs to move on from it.

Well deep breathes Gwenn  :hugg we just need to enjoy the good and not let the other things ruin our rainbows away.

So other than the annoying paraphrase..He looked so cute in that checkered shirt :bigsmile I don't know how that guy can wear anything and make it look Good. :bouncy

Jules


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Jan on July 03, 2008, 07:26:41 PM
HI GALS

JUST A LITTLE STORY.
ONCE UPON A TIME MY HUBBY AND I ALMOST DIVORCED OVER CLAY AND A FEW OTHER PROBLEMS. FOR ALL THESE PAST 2 YEARS HE IS SILENT ABOUT CLAY.

AFTER READING THE ARTICLE ON sOMALIA, I E MAILED IT TO HIM. AND SAID "ONE REASON I LOVE CLAY"
WHEN I GOT HOME I ASKED HIM IF HE READ THE E MAIL AND HE SAID" I CAN SEE WHY YOU ADMIRE HIM SO MUCH, IF EVERYONE WERE LIKE HIM THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE"

i JUST SAID TO MYSELF "MIRACLES DO HAPPEN" HE UNDERSTANDS WHY NOW.

HOW ABOUT THAT THEA, YOU KNOW THE REST!!!!!!!!

JAN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 03, 2008, 07:37:27 PM
JEANNE-THAT IS A WONDERFUL STORY.  I REMEMBER "BACK IN THE DAY."  SUCH GROWTH IS WONDERFUL. :hugg :hugg

JULES--THANKS.   :hugg  AND HE IS ONE INCREDIBLY HANDSOME MAN.  IT AMAZES ME SOMETIMES HOW HE HAS MORPHED INTO THIS HUNK OF A MAN.  WOW.

WATCHING HOPKINS.  WHAT A GREAT SHOW.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lucrezianoine on July 03, 2008, 07:38:13 PM
HI GALS

JUST A LITTLE STORY.
ONCE UPON A TIME MY HUBBY AND I ALMOST DIVORCED OVER CLAY AND A FEW OTHER PROBLEMS. FOR ALL THESE PAST 2 YEARS HE IS SILENT ABOUT CLAY.

AFTER READING THE ARTICLE ON sOMALIA, I E MAILED IT TO HIM. AND SAID "ONE REASON I LOVE CLAY"
WHEN I GOT HOME I ASKED HIM IF HE READ THE E MAIL AND HE SAID" I CAN SEE WHY YOU ADMIRE HIM SO MUCH, IF EVERYONE WERE LIKE HIM THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE"

i JUST SAID TO MYSELF "MIRACLES DO HAPPEN" HE UNDERSTANDS WHY NOW.

HOW ABOUT THAT THEA, YOU KNOW THE REST!!!!!!!!

JAN

 :clap yay Jan.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 03, 2008, 08:11:39 PM
Jan - I STILL say that someday I will meet you and Mr Jan - and it will be at a Clay concert! I know you think he would never go to one, but I think he will!!!!!  :wink (The power of Clay - it can't be denied - eventually he gets us all!!!!  :lmao )


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 03, 2008, 08:28:31 PM


                                   JAN I REMEMBER THOSE DAYS FOR YOU NOT GOOD,  :hugg SO GLAD MR. JAN HAS COME AROUND. :hugg HOW COULD HE NOT.

                                   WELL I AM RUNNING OUT OF STEAM THE CHOCOLATE FINALLY WORE OFF. :roflmao GUESS I SHOULD HAVE EATEN ANOTHER POUND,J/K. 

                                            I LOVE CLAY BECAUSE HE LOVES US, LOVES KIDS, LOVES DOGS.LOVES HIS PATIO LOVES HIS MOM,LOVES HIS FRIENDS, AND HE LOVES MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. :lmao

                               AND HE WEARS WHITE PANTS SO WELL. :blush :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 03, 2008, 08:28:43 PM
I have a question,
Do you think Clay is back in the USA?

I read an article at the OFC listed as NEWS STORY  : 7/03/08 UNICEF AMBASSADOR CLAY AIKEN VISITS NW SOMALIA    NIROBI July3, 2008  UNICEF AMBASSADOR CLAY AIKEN,today ended a five-day visit to the troubled east

That sounds to me like he finished today, unless they are a day ahead of us. Has anyone else seen this article?

Clay looks so good and I'm looking forward to more pictures "SOON",(I hope)


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Post by: clayfannj on July 03, 2008, 09:29:21 PM
I hope so, Marlene. That seems to be all the news available about him up to the moment. I would like to see him home safe and sound and am also loooking foward to pics and more field notes... I am sure we will hear from him soon. Perhaps even a blog.. (Joy oh joy!!!)
Afterall he has to make the pitch to us to contribute...

At least we will have CNN on Sunday...


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Post by: Marilyn on July 03, 2008, 09:38:28 PM
That quote from CV is from Me!!  We quote each other that's neat!  God bless Clay

OMG.  I HAD NO IDEA.  DIFFERENT SCREEN NAMES.

GWENN

Actually that post came from CV because I read what mimi2 said and I wanted to share why she thought he was wearing those clothes, etc. The first quote was what I quoted from Mimi2, and the second quote was me saying I never thought of ..........
So I guess, mimi2, that your words had impact. I hope you dont mind me sharing what you said.


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Post by: GWENN on July 04, 2008, 06:21:40 AM
HAPPY FOURTH!!!!!

OFF TO THE SHORE AND MY NIECE'S.  :clap :clap :clap

HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT DAY. :wave :wave :wave

HOPE CLAY IS HOME AND HAVING A GREAT DAY. :bouncy :bouncy :bouncy

WE GET TO SEE HIM IN 2 DAYS.  :thud :thud :thud

GWENN


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Post by: lovinclay on July 04, 2008, 07:10:08 AM
Clay is a wonderful man!  I just wish the tabloids, entertainment shows, etc. would stop prefacing their stories with  Daddy to Be, Clay Aiken, etc.  This rumor has not been confirmed.  I agree with Sunny, but why couldn't their stories be just "as juicy" by the  telling of his work with Unicef, without their little tabloid lead-in?  It's just wrong.  It puts a tabloid spin on his good work with Unicef.  Why couldn't they say, Unicef ambassador, Clay Aiken?  Wouldn't that make more sense, as that's the subject of their story?  It's done deliberately, and I hate them for it!   :bang 


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Post by: lovinclay on July 04, 2008, 07:15:15 AM
I apologize for the rant.  This should be a day of celebration.  I truly hope everyone has a joyous day with family and friends.  I hope Clay is home, safe and sound, and enjoing a fun holiday with his family and friends.  I wonder if he BBQ's out on his patio.  The visual of Chef Clay is all kinds of Hot!   :thud  I'll have a hotdog, please.   :wink


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Post by: Sundancer on July 04, 2008, 07:23:58 AM
... I wonder if he BBQ's out on his patio.  The visual of Chef Clay is all kinds of Hot!   :thud  I'll have a hotdog, please.   :wink
Uh huh. :slick


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Post by: Glory on July 04, 2008, 08:15:08 AM



                               I'LL HAVE SOME BBQ PLEASE .COLD SLAW. BAKED BEANS. WATERMELON AND BETTER STOP HUH. :bigsmile

                                 HOLLIES COMING AFTER WHILE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GO TO FRIENDS FOR THE DAY. HAVE A GREAT 4TH ALL I LOVE YOU ALL VERY MUCH.


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Post by: mimi on July 04, 2008, 09:18:19 AM
WELCOME FROM BEAUTIFUL NC...HOME OF MR.CLAY AIKEN

Hope Clay is home and able to enjoy some quiet time with his family & friends.

Happy 4th of July to you all   :usa

Have a safe holiday!!!

Marlene


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Post by: Marilyn on July 04, 2008, 09:20:24 AM
HAPPY JULY 4TH ALL!!

HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY!!


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Post by: mimi on July 04, 2008, 09:24:53 AM
Just saw on the news that JESSE HELMS passed away this morning...RIP


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Post by: mimi on July 04, 2008, 09:47:46 AM
I have just checked the WRAL FM Mix 101.5 songlist for the day, and they have played Clay 2 times so far today..FOLKS    :pig     :bigsmile...


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Post by: claydevotee on July 04, 2008, 09:49:35 AM
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY, dear CM'ers!!!   Just a thought..... If it weren't for our founding fathers we wouldn't  have this message board to come to with our joys, our sorrows and, yes, our rants!   :music God bless America, land that I love!!!  :music

Clay content:  CLAY REPRESENTS SO MUCH OF THE GOOD THAT IS  AMERICA!!!!   :usa :usa



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Post by: franniek54 on July 04, 2008, 10:46:33 AM

Thea ~ :thumb

Clay content:  God Bless the USA sung by Clay (http://youtube.com/watch?v=PhOZ9UdjxLQ)

Clay is a wonderful man!  I just wish the tabloids, entertainment shows, etc. would stop prefacing their stories with  Daddy to Be, Clay Aiken, etc.  This rumor has not been confirmed.  I agree with Sunny, but why couldn't their stories be just "as juicy" by the  telling of his work with Unicef, without their little tabloid lead-in?  It's just wrong.  It puts a tabloid spin on his good work with Unicef.  Why couldn't they say, Unicef ambassador, Clay Aiken?  Wouldn't that make more sense, as that's the subject of their story?  It's done deliberately, and I hate them for it!   :bang 

Even tho we always expect better of these shows they keep reminding us that they are all about the bottom line.  ET used to be on the up 'n up when they started out as the first entertainment show, way back when.  But now they are sliding down the slippery slope of tabloidism, just to keep up their ratings I suppose.  They behave like opportunists and force celebrities to relate to them in the same way.

Guess ya can't get blood from a turnip.  :shrug


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Post by: lmatheson on July 04, 2008, 12:07:26 PM
I have a suggestion: why dont you( meaning everyone who gets annoyed by tabloidism ) to direct your complaints to this ET and whatever gossip place, that you don't like the reporting they're doing when they mention Clay? Remember what Clay says?.... Use your voice. So complain to the right place and not just rant about it amongst us.   


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Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 04, 2008, 02:48:47 PM
HAPPY JULY 4TH TO EVERYONE




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Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 04, 2008, 02:57:06 PM
Happy Independence Day everyone!    :usa (http://bestsmileys.com/usa2/2.gif)

I've been painting my home office this afternoon. One final coat tomorrow and I'll be ready to decorate Sunday if things go on schedule!  :shappy I have some Clay pics to hang up.  :smile


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Post by: clayfannj on July 04, 2008, 07:44:23 PM
Hope everyone had a fun day.. I vegged today and started getting things together . I am  leaving for California in a couple of days  for 2 weeks.. Convention and travel..
I'll keep an ear to the ground to see if he shows up in L.A.!!  (To see you know who about you know what..!! :para)
 but in the meantime.......
I'd like to hear  Clay has touched down on U.S. soil!!!

Would have been nice to see him involved in some celebration for the holiday on TV...It was rather boring .....

Yeah, I know..I want it ALL!!!! :bigsmile


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Post by: clayharmony on July 04, 2008, 09:22:28 PM
Happy Freedom Day  everybody...I love this holiday...and I love the music and colors that go with it.  Miss the fireworks...the mini kind we had in my back yard as a girl.

FYI on the culinary end...the pasta salad was a hit...and I probably had enough to feed this whole site...  :lol  ...and the cucumber soup turned out fine...it actually wasn't liquid...yeah...even the fellows ate it...and you know gourmet cold soup isn't everyone's cuppa...

clayfannj ...don't know what part of CA you are visiting...but wish to give you a grand cyber welcome to my sunny state...and the weather has been pretty terrific...hope you'll not be near some of the fires...that situation should be calmed in the next day or so... if you should have time and are near Pasadena...would love to personally greet you, too!


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Post by: Sundancer on July 05, 2008, 08:19:05 AM
Didn't Ray pass on or around July 4th? Maybe his family doesn't do a big fireworks-type celebration for this holiday. (Like I know anything.) :shrug


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Post by: lovinclay on July 05, 2008, 08:32:46 AM
Good Morning, everyone!  Sure is quite here today.  Hope everyone had a blast yesterday. 


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Post by: Sundancer on July 05, 2008, 08:37:42 AM
Good Morning, everyone!  Sure is quite here today.  Hope everyone had a blast yesterday. 
So to speak? :wink


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Post by: GWENN on July 05, 2008, 09:39:44 AM
BACK FROM THE SHORE.  I AM BURNT.  ER AND BF ARE NOW IN AC DOING WHATEVER.  DOGS WERE NOT HAPPY.

SUNNY--I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT.  I BET CLAY WAS WITH FAYE AND BRETT YESTERDAY.  I DON'T THINK IT IS A DAY OF CELEBRATION THERE.

GONNA VEG AND BE STILL TODAY.  I AM BEAT.

GWENN


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Post by: Sundancer on July 05, 2008, 11:12:07 AM
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BACK FROM THE SHORE.  I AM BURNT.  ER AND BF ARE NOW IN AC DOING WHATEVER.
Playing Scrabble and talking? That's what I always do with my boyfriend. :slick


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Post by: GWENN on July 05, 2008, 12:45:31 PM
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BACK FROM THE SHORE.  I AM BURNT.  ER AND BF ARE NOW IN AC DOING WHATEVER.
Playing Scrabble and talking? That's what I always do with my boyfriend. :slick

OF COURSE.  WHAT ELSE COULD THEY BE DOING? :blush

GWENN


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Post by: fhmmany2 on July 05, 2008, 01:03:11 PM
 :wave

CNN is really advertising the UNICEF show - can't wait until tomorrow to see it. Clay has not been in any of the commercials, so far, though. (At least not the ones I saw). Dr. Gupta was interviewed on one of the newscasts, too  :clap

We are going down to pick up our youngest granddaughter. She is staying with us for a week while her parents are in Washington, D.C. (DIL is going to a computer training class - Son is going along for fun).

Hope everybody is haveing a good weekend - I keep thinking it is Sunday  :bduh


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Post by: GWENN on July 05, 2008, 03:58:36 PM
FRANKIE--IT FEELS LIKE SUNDAY TO ME ALSO.

BUT I AM WAITING TO SEE HIM EVEN IF IT IS VIDEO OF STUFF WE ALREADY SAW.

OY.

GWENN


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Post by: mimi on July 05, 2008, 04:29:29 PM
Hi Everyone,

Hope you all had a great 4th.

I hope I don't wear my welcome out by keep on reporting about airplay for Clay on WRALFM Mix 101.5  BUT,I just checked the songlist and they have played ON MY Way Here ,3 times today. :bouncy :clap  :shappy
Right now his chart position is # 13 on WRAL....FANTASTIC, he was 66 3 weeks ago.

I wrote a e-mail to the station manager yesterday thanking them for including Clay on their daily songlist,and told them that I was very proud of Clay and I thought everyone in Raleigh & NC should be too, that he had just returned from a 5- day trip for UNICEF to Somalia, and would be a guest on CNN tomorrow night for UNICEF..

Do you think our local paper(The News & Observer) has picked up on any of the stories about his trip...OF COURSE NOT!!!! :bang

I'll just keep on keeping on, requesting On My Way Here :bigsmile   Anyone else who wants to help just feel welcome to jump right in an help keep On My Way Here out there.


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Post by: mimi2 on July 05, 2008, 04:39:59 PM
Hey -
Hope everyone had a great 4th of July.  During the day I watched 1776 the musical. I haven't seen it in a long while.  I really enjoyed it.  But I kept thinking to myself how much I would love to see Clay in the part of Thomas Jefferson.  Then I started to think about other parts I'd like to see Clay in...The Music Man,  Tony in west side story, Dirty dancing...I think you get the idea...anybody have a movie or play you'd like to recast Clay in the lead?   Ideas anyone??????????


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Post by: Sundancer on July 05, 2008, 04:45:26 PM
Dirty Dancing? In the Patrick Swayze role?

As a dancer, I'm not sure I'm ready for that. :lol


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Post by: mimi2 on July 05, 2008, 04:47:26 PM
Yeah...I guess you're right but he did some dirty dancing of his own with his girls!!!


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Post by: mimi on July 05, 2008, 04:55:02 PM
For those of you who are going to try & come to the Gala in Oct..the NC State Fair will also be going on...I saw a list of performers and Bucky Covington will be the guest Oct 21st.Of course,the Gala is on the 18th,but I didn't know if anyone would be staying longer...

Suzy did you know that Bucky was going to be in Raleigh,(I'm sure you probably did):bigsmile


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Post by: Sundancer on July 05, 2008, 05:02:12 PM
Suzy did you know that Bucky was going to be in Raleigh,(I'm sure you probably did):bigsmile
Trust me--she knows! :hypno :lol


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Post by: clayfannj on July 05, 2008, 05:25:14 PM
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For those of you who are going to try & come to the Gala in Oct..the NC State Fair will also be going on...I saw a list of performers and Bucky Covington will be the guest Oct 21st.Of course,the Gala is on the 18th,but I didn't know if anyone would be staying longer...

I was counting on the Fair but thought Bucky would be there on the weekend..We have the room through the weekend.. Getting the tickets is a concern...I'm thinking without a tour the Gala will be even more desireable...


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Post by: mimi on July 05, 2008, 05:30:31 PM
Marion , I think that on the 28th there will be a lot of us experienceing that dreaded "TICKET STRESS" :bang


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Post by: Sundancer on July 05, 2008, 05:31:18 PM
But we don't know if there will be a tour or not. :shrug


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Post by: PHILLYLUVSCLAY on July 05, 2008, 05:34:05 PM
Marion , I think that on the 28th there will be a lot of us experienceing that dreaded "TICKET STRESS" :bang

*Joins Mimi in  :bang and :bite


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Post by: mimi on July 05, 2008, 05:56:21 PM
What happened to our smiley emotion, ticket stress..Was it removed because we seldom have any of late ?  Ticktet Stress,that is :giggle


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Post by: Glory on July 05, 2008, 06:53:04 PM



                                   WELL SPENT 2 DAYS WITH GRANDKIDS I NEED CHOCOLATE REALLY BAD :roflmao  LITTLE GAL IS A DOLL CHUBBY AND SWEET. LITTLE FELLA INTO EVERYTHING HOLLIE IS GOING TO GET A HARNESS TO KEEP UP WITH HIM, I DON'T THINK ALL THREE OF MY KIDS GOT INTO STUFF LIKE HE DOES. :para

                              ENJOYED SEEING THEM  STILL TAKING ANTIBIOTICS MAKE ME TIRED,

                               CLAY CONTENT, HE WOULD MAKE A GOOD RHETT BUTLER, OR JOHN TRAVOLITA IN SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER.

                               MY DAYS ARE ALL MESSED UP NOT SURE WHHAT TODAY IS :bduh


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Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 05, 2008, 06:54:14 PM
Hope everyone is having a great holiday weekend.

I spent today putting together a cabinet to hold all my Clay stuff.  I had put it in a wicker basket but it outgrew that a long time ago and was working its way up the wall.  Now if I can just get the stuff in the cabinet without stopping to read everything.  Yeah, big chance of that.   :bigsmile

Hey, what can I say -- a girl can accumulate a lot of stuff in five years.

The only other thing I managed to accomplish today was to break my glasses.  Good thing I still have my old ones even though they just about cover my face (might be an improvement).  They'll have to do until Monday.  

I have felt all day that today is Sunday -- just hope I don't get up and go to work in the morning.




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Post by: franniek54 on July 05, 2008, 07:53:19 PM

I would like to see Clay do the Richard Gere role in American Gigolo.  :yes


And for me Thursday was Saturday, Friday was Saturday, today was Saturday and tomorrow will be Saturday.  :shrug


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Post by: franniek54 on July 05, 2008, 08:05:08 PM

Also he should do the lead in The Full Monty.

The Ralph Fiennes role in Shakespeare in Love

The Robert Redford role in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid

The role of Josh in the West Wing

and the Fred Rogers role in Mr. Rogers' neighborhood


I'll think of some more I'm sure.


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Post by: franniek54 on July 05, 2008, 08:06:31 PM

Oh, and Robin Hood


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Post by: Sundancer on July 05, 2008, 08:08:45 PM
From The Full Monty to Mr. Rogers in the same post?? :hypno :lol


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Post by: franniek54 on July 05, 2008, 08:16:42 PM

Clay is very versatile  :wiggle  :laugh


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Post by: clayfannj on July 05, 2008, 08:27:37 PM
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From The Full Monty to Mr. Rogers in the same post?? 


Actually I can see a striking similarity in both..

He could open the curtains  with...


"IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD!!"   :clay :package :bigsmile


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Post by: franniek54 on July 05, 2008, 08:31:19 PM

He could change into his sneakers and put on his sweater and break into song!!!


How about Forest Gump

Or the lead in The World According to Garp

Johnny Depp's role in What's Eating Gilbert Grape or of course Edward Scissorhands


Hey!  He could play a good Columbo!!!


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Post by: mimi on July 05, 2008, 08:33:17 PM
Nite Everyone!   I'm off   :tobed   

Talk with you again tomorrow.

Marlene :dust


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Post by: Sundancer on July 05, 2008, 08:33:51 PM
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Hey!  He could play a good Columbo!!!

I think you just wanna see him in a trenchcoat. :wink


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Post by: franniek54 on July 05, 2008, 08:50:53 PM

Ooo, Ooo.......Atticus Finch in To Kill a Mockingbird

the angel in The Bishops Wife

and I think it was mentioned already--Danny Kaye's role in White Christmas!  He'd be great in that!


Don't you guys have any ideas?


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Post by: clayharmony on July 05, 2008, 09:42:34 PM
I vote for him to play in a skit with Jim Carrey and Carol Burnett...yeah, I just watched the Oprah show with these two...and I think that they'd be hilarious together.

Now onto a question of profound importance...  :bduh ...I try to play some of the games on this site...and I continue to feel like I'm missing some key strategies...what?  there's gotta be a reason, Im lousy at them...  :lol other than a slow mo mouse...yeah that my numero uno reason at the moment...seriously...anyone here an expert...I've Qs about Brainiac and Sportsmash for starters!  :blush[/color
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Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 06, 2008, 12:01:34 AM
Marilyn and I will be in Raleigh the Thursday prior to the gala thru Monday. Even if we don't get a gala ticket (been there in the disappointment category) we can't go much longer without seeing our NC friends. It's been since last August! I miss everyone. Plus I want to meet those that are coming that I haven't met yet.  :smile


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Post by: fhmmany2 on July 06, 2008, 03:25:46 AM
 :wave

My once a day check in - trying to keep up! These would be non-musical roles, but I think Clay could remake any of the Jimmy Stewart roles (Mr. Smith Goes To Washington). I love watching anything Jimmy Stewart did, and to me Clay has the same sense of integrity and honesty about him that JS had - just my opinion, of course! And on a more modern note, I also would love to see him do something with Jim Carrey - Clay has that wicked sense of humour - I think they would be great together - even if it was something animated.

Mimi - I love that you are reporting on radio play. Raleigh should support Clay - hundreds of  thousands of people know more about Raleigh  than they did 5 years ago because of Clay. Look at the financial gain Memphis has from Elvis - I cannot understand why Raleigh stations would not support Clay to the hilt!

We get to see Our Honey on CNN today!  :purpbana They continue to show children from the different countries on the commercials for the show (as they should) instead of the Ambassadors.

I talked to Shirl/ClayObsessed last night. She was traveling about an hour from her home this morning to attend a monthly Clay Fan Club meeting. (She is in California). It is so good to hear that local clubs are still quietly supporting Clay in this way. I know that Meesa and the KC gang still meet monthly, too  :clap

Thank goodness the house remodel prevents me from being involved in the Gala ticket stress! I don't think I could take that right now! I am stressed enough worrying about all of you getting tickets.

Have a great day, everybody!


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Post by: lovinclay on July 06, 2008, 05:57:52 AM
Pamela, check you pm's. 



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Post by: mimi2 on July 06, 2008, 06:32:04 AM
You guys have great ideas for clay movie's  I'd love him in It's a wonderful life  "George Bailey -  I'll love you till the day I die " said by Mary Hatch!


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Post by: GWENN on July 06, 2008, 07:57:11 AM
CHECKING IN.  QUIET AROUND HERE TODAY AND TOMORROW.  IT IS YUCKY OUTSIDE SO I WILL DO MY CROSSWORD PUZZLE AND WAIT PATIENTLY FOR CNN TONIGHT.

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Mimi - I love that you are reporting on radio play. Raleigh should support Clay - hundreds of  thousands of people know more about Raleigh  than they did 5 years ago because of Clay. Look at the financial gain Memphis has from Elvis - I cannot understand why Raleigh stations would not support Clay to the hilt!

VERY GOOD POINT, FRANKIE.   :clap

NO, CLAY CANNOT DO DIRTY DANCING.  HE JUST ISN'T THAT GOOD.  BUT I SURE WOULDN'T MIND SEEING HIM MINUS A SHIRT.   :thud

AS FOR A PART---I AM NOT SURE YET,  I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE THAT HE WANTS TO BE A BAD GUY CAUSE HE THINKS IT WOULD BE FUN.  I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.  I THOUGHT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL IN PHANTOM AS RAUL.  OMG, HE WOULD HAVE JUST BEEN GREAT.  MY FANTASY IS FOR HIM TO DO A MOVIE AS A ROMANTIC LEAD.  SOME DAY,  I CAN FEEL IT.

GWENN


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Post by: Sundancer on July 06, 2008, 08:04:19 AM
Some day, we'd all like to feel it. :blush


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Post by: franniek54 on July 06, 2008, 08:50:40 AM
I can't believe she said that.  :para


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Post by: lovinclay on July 06, 2008, 09:14:41 AM
I can.    :wink


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Post by: Marilyn on July 06, 2008, 09:17:23 AM
A LITTLE OF TOPIC, BUT......WATCH THESE


NEVER GONE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFTj3ovMwuM&feature=user)

HELLO AGAIN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lmcTmSBJN4&feature=user)


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Post by: Marilyn on July 06, 2008, 09:19:15 AM
Some day, we'd all like to feel it. :blush

 :clap :clap :bigsmile


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Post by: clayfannj on July 06, 2008, 10:11:11 AM
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Posted by: Marilyn 
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A LITTLE OF TOPIC, BUT......WATCH THESE


NEVER GONE

HELLO AGAIN



Verra, verra nice, Marilyn...


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Post by: GWENN on July 06, 2008, 10:34:59 AM
Some day, we'd all like to feel it. :blush

 :naughty  BUT SO TRUE.   :bigsmile

OH, FRANNIE.  I CAN SURELY BELIEVE SHE SAID THAT.  GOOD FOR YOU, SUNNY. 

MARILYN--THANKS.   :hugg

GWENN


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Post by: franniek54 on July 06, 2008, 11:08:37 AM

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Some day, we'd all like to feel it. 


   BUT SO TRUE.   

OH, FRANNIE.  I CAN SURELY BELIEVE SHE SAID THAT.  GOOD FOR YOU, SUNNY. 


Since I have never thought said read seen considered anything like that, it is hard difficult to process in my virgin innocent pure respectful brain mind.......oh forget it, you caught me.


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Post by: GWENN on July 06, 2008, 11:52:04 AM

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Some day, we'd all like to feel it. 


   BUT SO TRUE.   

OH, FRANNIE.  I CAN SURELY BELIEVE SHE SAID THAT.  GOOD FOR YOU, SUNNY. 


Since I have never thought said read seen considered anything like that, it is hard difficult to process in my virgin innocent pure respectful brain mind.......oh forget it, you caught me.

 :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

GWENN


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Post by: lucrezianoine on July 06, 2008, 02:04:10 PM
Some day, we'd all like to feel it. :blush

We'll just have to leave the meaning of 'IT' to everyone's imagination definition. Good Lawd :roflmao

Marilyn - thank you, those were lovely montages.

Jules :bigsmile


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Post by: GWENN on July 06, 2008, 03:09:58 PM
I NOW HAVE AN ANSWER TO WHICH PART I WOULD LIKE CLAY TO PLAY IN A REMAKE.  I JUST WATCHED THE APARTMENT WITH JACK LEMON.  AND WITHOUT A DOUBT, CLAY WOULD HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLE IN THAT PART.  IN FACT, ANY PART JACK LEMON PLAYED.  NOW, HOW DO I GET WORD TO MIKE NICHOLS???????

GWENN


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Post by: Glory on July 06, 2008, 04:17:07 PM




                                          YOU ALL ARE SO BAD UNLIKE MAH WHO IS A  :angel :lol :blush


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Post by: Sundancer on July 06, 2008, 04:54:55 PM
C'mon, Glory. You know you wanna talk about Clay's parts as much as anyone. :lol


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Post by: Pamela on July 06, 2008, 05:05:25 PM
Talking about Clay's parts is a time honored tradition. 

His huge....feet.   His long....fingers. 

And, his hair.  Is that a part? 

He doesn't really have a part when it's long.  I like it long.   :angel

Hope everyone had a happy Independence Day. 


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Post by: GWENN on July 06, 2008, 06:14:49 PM
IT WAS NICE TO SEE CLAY ON MY TV, BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT, A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING.  NOT ENOUGH.  WHY COULDN'T HE BE SITTING THERE NEXT TO LUCI LUI?

CLAY'S PARTS ARE ALL GOOD.   :angel

GWENN


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Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 06, 2008, 06:15:49 PM
I just watched the CNN Special.  It was good to see the few short clips of Clay but the thing that I wonder after seeing this program is how can Clay be in the middle of all this pain and suffering and not have it affect him.  I guess because he is a very strong and caring person that these trips are the way he does make a difference and, according to the program, differences are being made--one step at a time.

Seeing all this is probably one of the reasons he sees no reason to respond to all the trash thrown at him.  In the face of what is going on with children all over the world, I imagine he feels this is not worth his time  -- he channels his energies to helping people instead of trying to destroy them.

I AM VERY PROUD OF CLAY AIKEN


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Post by: Sundancer on July 06, 2008, 06:18:34 PM
... how can Clay be in the middle of all this pain and suffering and not have it affect him. 
Did he say it doesn't affect him? (I haven't seen the show yet.)


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Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 06, 2008, 06:21:43 PM
WilsonClaymate, very well said.

Marilyn, thank you for the beautiful montages of Clay.

Rosemary


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Post by: mimi on July 06, 2008, 06:22:56 PM
Barbara, I agree with everything you said.

I was a little disappointed that we didn't get to see more of Clay and I would have prefered to have the Ambassadors tell their own stories,but I understand that they only have a set time, but way to many commericals.



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Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 06, 2008, 06:24:17 PM
... how can Clay be in the middle of all this pain and suffering and not have it affect him. 
Did he say it doesn't affect him? (I haven't seen the show yet.)

Sorry, wrong choice of words.  I'm sure it does affect him but he seems to have found a way to handle it.


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Post by: Glory on July 06, 2008, 06:29:13 PM



                               I NEVER HEARD CLAY SAY HE WAS UNEFECTED BY WHAT HE'S SEEN. I AM SUREH HE IS HAUNTED BY SOME OF THOSE IMAGES I WOULD BE.

                                  BTW I LOVE HIS PARTS, SUNNY. :blush


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Post by: lucrezianoine on July 06, 2008, 06:45:20 PM
I was happy with what I saw of Clay even if it was a small clip. This wasn't about him, it was about UNICEF and the stories of the children.

Mainer- Thank you for bringing that little news, even though its a sad one. I too am relieved that Clay is safely back home. 

Jules


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Post by: luluasst on July 06, 2008, 09:37:47 PM
Disappointing not to see more of clay tonight but I agree with everyone, the show was about the children. I look forward to Clay's Unicef blog - hope he really is going to write about his experience.


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Post by: Mary on July 06, 2008, 10:04:01 PM
I think that Clay's small part was recorded months ago because his blond hair was parted in the middle and he later parted it on the side. Now it is brown again.

I loved the boy Clay was on AI but I love the man that he has become even more.


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Post by: lovinclay on July 07, 2008, 03:14:09 AM
I loved the Unicef program last night.  It's good to see so many stepping up to the plate for these children. 


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Post by: mimi2 on July 07, 2008, 06:20:46 AM
The unicef program was very informative.  We need more shows like this but put on the major networks, not just the news channels. This is the plight of the majority of the world today.  JMO...but i think this is what keeps Clay's head screwed on right, and how he is able to pretty successfully brush off the nonsense that surrounds celebrity. There's a line from the movie Notting Hill that I really like...the frame thing, it isn't real...ya know!  I think Clay knows that and knew it even before he entered AI.  Clay has mention in the past in relation to a past trip that he cries for hours, alone after he visits these places.
Having said all of that...I was disappointed that Clay was used so little.  It's more than me just liking him so much...He is well read, informed and intelligently forms his opinions.  He is extremely articulate and is able to draw the listener in and explain things while never talking down to them. I am convinced that Clay can do anything and do it well.  Be it magazine news type show, the political arena or host a talk show. IIT...raising a child will be the deciding factor in his decision making for future endeavors, as it should be because he clearly understands celebrity isn't real...but family is. 


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Post by: claydevotee on July 07, 2008, 06:24:00 AM
Just checking in after the long extended holiday weekend.  Houseguests and family dynamics were near perfection.  Older son J and his fiancee were so sweet and so cute.  I think they'll be good for one another.  This weekend will most certainly go down in "the books" as one of our best family weekends ever.  

I'm now getting ready to take P's special young lady to the airport for her flight back to CA. She has already become like a daughter to me.  Hopefully this will work out well.   P will be taking the train into Chicago for a Midwest conference in his field of Urban Economics.  He will be presenting to his peers, so right now he is very excited and also very nervous!!!

Haven't read back much yet, but..............

My reaction to Clay's appearance on the UNICEF special last night isn't different from most of yours.  Indeed there were too many commercials and too little Clay, but to see Clay in his ambassador/humanitarian role for only a few minutes made my heart swell with pride.  As to Joel Madden being selected as the new UNICEF ambassador, even younger son "P" said "What??????????"   :para    I'm wondering if the fact that he is baby-daddy to Nicole Richie's little girl has anytthing to do with it.  Nah, couldn't be!!! !

MAINER, that is beyond disturbing about the UN official being shot.  sigh

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I think that Clay's small part was recorded months ago because his blond hair was parted in the middle and he later parted it on the side. Now it is brown again.

Good observation!  Hey, we'll never stop focusing on the hair, will we???  :wink

Off to the airport.  Hope to check in later!!!    :ghug2


EDIT:  My  fascination/obsession  with Amy Winehouse continues.  Hmmm, I think it's time for her to be named the newest UNICEF ambassador, dontcha think?   :lol :bduh
http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=71860


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Post by: GWENN on July 07, 2008, 06:57:21 AM
MORNING--

I AGREE THAT THIS WAS RECORDED A FEW WEEKS AGO.  HAIR, ETC.  I THINK CLAY TAKES HIS POSITION AS UNICEF AMBASSADOR VERY SERIOUSLY.  I BELIEVE HUMANITARIAN EFFORTS WILL ALWAYS BE HIS PASSION.  I HOPE HE CAN CONTINUE THIS FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE.  I THINK IT GROUNDS HIM AND FULFILLS HIM MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

I HAD NO IDEA WHO JOEL MADDEN WAS.  I GUESS IT IS UNICEF'S ATTEMPT TO DRAW IN THE YOUNGER SET.  I DIDN'T FIND HIM TOO ARTICULATE, BUT WHO AM I?

THEA--GLAD YOUR WEEKEND WAS SO WONDERFUL.  GOOD FAMILY EVENTS ARE VERY RARE.   :hugg  NO DRAMA IS VERY GOOD.

GWENN


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Post by: mimi2 on July 07, 2008, 07:03:59 AM
When Clay first commented on Somalia, he mentioned something happening in the 90's that affect our interaction with this nation so I googled ,then I remembered the mission. So we watched BlackHawk Down.  It helps to explain the desperate situation there and the continuing danger.  WARNING: This movie is VERY violent and rough and not for the squeamish!!!!  


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Post by: lovinclay on July 07, 2008, 08:16:30 AM
I think Joel Madden will appeal to the younger people, which is a good thing.  He seemed a little nervous, and I can understand that.  He'll do well once he gets acclimated.  I believe he and Nicole have a foundation for children.  I think it great that younger entertainers are getting involved in humanitarian efforts. 


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Post by: lovinclay on July 07, 2008, 08:29:34 AM
This is the most amazing YouTube of Somalia.  I hope it finds it's way to Unicef.  It needs to be on their website.  Please watch.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8hUlMCNQVw


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Post by: clayharmony on July 07, 2008, 09:25:18 AM
We all have picked such a deserving guy to love!  Wow...he just brings it when it comes to communicating about UNICEF, doesn't he.  I found Lucy Lu to be very impressive as well.  Interesting the amount of air time Clay has received as an ambassador since his appointment...it's actually been quite a bit I think if you compare it to the rest of them...i.e. Sarah Jessica Parker and in agreement with you all, I believe it is recognized by the UNICEF pros, the qualities and passion Clay invests in this outreach (also recalling Jimmy Carter's very interesting remark...how Clay's done much more than is publicly known...or something to that effect). 

Joel Madden seemed a little nervous to me as well...not as polished...however, I felt, genuinely sincere.  I do believe that ambassadors are chosen to appeal to varying segments of the populace and he would definitely have a youthful audience for his UNICEF 'voice' ...also, like Clay...they sought him, not the other way around...guess that's how it is always done...it seems they look for charitable instincts to be presence in their ambassadors prior to their role for UNICEF itself.

I found the special highly illuminating...wish it had reached a broader audience...CNN as a news station already sorts out many who might have stumbled upon the show otherwise...and I too found the commercials annoyingly frequent.  I'm ready to donate...and I am also going to look into how I can donate the enormous inventory I've collected in teaching materials to a school in Somalia.  Wasn't the water discussion a defining reality check, on my!!

Thea  :wave  :hugg...your weekend sounded heartwarming...how wonderful for you all to share such memorable times!

Very early tomorrow morning, my cousin and I are off on a road trip to the Bay area to visit relatives for the remainder of the week.  I don't know if I'll be around the internet...oh no!  :lol...wouldn't it just be the time that Clay news breaks of some sort, hee! 


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Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 07, 2008, 11:06:50 AM
Joel Madden and Nicole Richie have the Richie/Madden Children's Foundation. He just seemed very quiet to me, but I've seen interviews with him and his brother Benji before and he seems to be a very quiet guy. I'm sure he'll be a wonderful ambassador. I read the People article about their family (Joel, Nicole and their baby Harlow) and they seem to be very grounded now as a family.


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Post by: ClayHeart on July 07, 2008, 01:44:51 PM
I agree with the person that said that after Clay saw the plight of the people in Somalia (Somaliland?), that being worried about what entertainment gossip rags, blogs, etc. say would not seem very important.  I think we should take his example, and ignore the idiots and do something positive.  "Overcome evil with good".

I respect Clay so much.  Well, got to get back to work.  Bye.   :wave

Debbie


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Post by: claydevotee on July 07, 2008, 04:00:44 PM
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Thea    ...your weekend sounded heartwarming...how wonderful for you all to share such memorable times!
Thanks, JOHANNA!  And as GWENN so aptly stated:
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GOOD FAMILY EVENTS ARE VERY RARE.     NO DRAMA IS VERY GOOD.
:yeahthat  Absolutely!  :roflmao

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Very early tomorrow morning, my cousin and I are off on a road trip to the Bay area to visit relatives for the remainder of the week.  I don't know if I'll be around the internet...oh no!  ...wouldn't it just be the time that Clay news breaks of some sort, hee! 

Be careful driving in that area, JOHANNA.  Those CA wildfires on the news look treacherous.  I felt so bad taking P's gf to airport so she could fly back to that very area in CA.  :para

Enjoy, and fear not...I think we're in an extended Clay drought for the next few weeks.  If some really BIG pops, though, I promise to give you a call, OK?  :hugg

Oy, the laundry and dishes await.   :hypno GWENN and MARION, thank you for adding that wonderful expressive word "OY"  to our CM vocabulary!!!   Somehow, it is very versatile and right on the money in so many instances! 


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Post by: Marilyn on July 07, 2008, 04:01:07 PM
When Clay first commented on Somalia, he mentioned something happening in the 90's that affect our interaction with this nation so I googled ,then I remembered the mission. So we watched BlackHawk Down.  It helps to explain the desperate situation there and the continuing danger.  WARNING: This movie is VERY violent and rough and not for the squeamish!!!!  

I saw that movie- it was horrible- I had to turn away many times, but I needed to know if some got out, so I watched it until the end. I would never watch it again, though- it broke my heart to know it was based on a true story.


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Post by: Sundancer on July 07, 2008, 04:33:49 PM
When Clay first commented on Somalia, he mentioned something happening in the 90's that affect our interaction with this nation so I googled ,then I remembered the mission. So we watched BlackHawk Down.  It helps to explain the desperate situation there and the continuing danger.  WARNING: This movie is VERY violent and rough and not for the squeamish!!!!  

I saw that movie- it was horrible- I had to turn away many times, but I needed to know if some got out, so I watched it until the end. I would never watch it again, though- it broke my heart to know it was based on a true story.

I was engaged to a Marine combat helicopter pilot who was in Mogadishu when that happened. I watched on the news as insurgents dragged a soldier's body through the streets, cheering. And I thought, "He could be mine."

It was a desperate situation then; I'd hoped things had improved. I'm sorry to see they haven't.



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Post by: mimi2 on July 07, 2008, 04:47:55 PM
Sundancer - I wouldn't watch that movie again either.  I covered my eyes, my husband kept saying - don't look, I'll tell you what's going on.  I just wanted to understand that nation alittle more...and what Clay was getting exposed to.  God bless him  M2


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Post by: GWENN on July 07, 2008, 05:25:52 PM
I DIDN'T SEE THAT MOVIE BUT I DID SEE BLACK DIAMOND.  THAT YOUNG MAN WHO HAD TO KILL TO STAY ALIVE IN SIERRA LEONE REMINDS ME SO MUCH OF THAT MOVIE.  I CRIED SO WATCHING .  I WILL NEVER WATCH ANYTHING LIKE IT AGAIN.  I DON'T UNDERSTAND AND I NEVER WILL.  IT HURTS MY HEART SO MUCH.

I CAN SEE HOW CLAY JUST DISMISSES THE CRAP THROWN AT HIM.  IF YOU SEE WHAT IS GOING IN IN AFRICA AND AFGANISTAN AND WHEREVER, THEN TABLOID SH** IS JUST THAT.

I HOPE HE IS FARING WELL.  I HOPE HE IS HAPPY.  I MISS HIM TERRIBLY AND I AGREE WITH THEA THAT WE WON'T SEE HIM FOR A WHILE BUT I THINK IT WILL BE WAY LONGER THAN A FEW WEEKS.  I DON'T THINK WE WILL SEE HIM FOR MONTHS AND THAT MAKES ME SAD.  I FIGURE THE FIRST TIME WE ARE SURE TO SEE HIM IS THE GALA.  I HAVE TO BE THERE.  I MUST SEE HIM.  I HAVE ISSUES.  :naughty :blush

SUNNY--HOW HARD THAT MUST HAVE BEEN FOR YOU.   :hugg

GWENN


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Post by: Glory on July 07, 2008, 05:32:07 PM



                                        I MISS HIM SO MUCH ALL HE HAS TO SAY IS HI,I WOULD BE HAPPY. :bigsmile


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Post by: Sundancer on July 07, 2008, 06:54:53 PM
Gee, Glory, just kill the thread, why dontcha! :wink


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Post by: Glory on July 07, 2008, 06:58:54 PM



                                   SUNNY O MIGHTY ONE AT WORK AGAIN :para DID NOT MEAN TO KILL THE THREAD. :hugg


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Post by: Sundancer on July 07, 2008, 07:01:29 PM


                                   SUNNY O MIGHTY ONE AT WORK AGAIN :para DID NOT MEAN TO KILL THE THREAD. :hugg

Of course not. You must be careful with that brute strength of yours. :wink :hugg


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Post by: GWENN on July 07, 2008, 08:21:35 PM
I'M JUST STOPPING IN.  SO, I WILL BE THE ONE TO KILL THE THREAD.

THERE ARE SOME INCREDIBLE MONTAGES AROUND. THIS IS SO CUTE.

EVER CHANGING CLAY


http://youtube.com/watch?v=cy4MF-RzD9s

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DEVGlF1sKMc

GWENN


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Post by: clayfannj on July 07, 2008, 08:30:50 PM
   "IT'S NOT DEAD YET!!!! :bigsmile "



  :wave


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Post by: Mary on July 08, 2008, 03:09:50 AM
Thanks for the You Tube links, Gwenn. Watching them is such a wonderful way to start the day. I think that I'll have to watch again while the house is quiet.


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Post by: GWENN on July 08, 2008, 06:28:09 AM
MORNING--

NOT MUCH TO SAY.  ANOTHER QUIET DAY HERE AND AT MY HOUSE.  SOMETIMES QUIET IS GOOD, BUT I DON'T LIKE QUIET TOO LONG.  JUST ME.

GWENN

ETA--

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Clay content...from my UNICEF contact she said we can expect Clay's first fieldnotes blog today....yay !!!


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Post by: mimi2 on July 08, 2008, 07:16:38 AM
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Field notes!   Can't wait!


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Post by: ClayHeart on July 08, 2008, 08:12:26 AM
Does that mean a blog on the official Clay site?  I want to make sure where to look, since I'll have to make a quick peek later when I have a break at work. 

Debbie


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Post by: claydevotee on July 08, 2008, 08:16:55 AM
 :wave Ladies!

'Sorry I've been contributing to the quietness on the thread.  RL is very, very busy these days with wedding plans, recovering from guests,  church work, yard work, etc. etc.  Also P will be staying here until next  Monday, so we're spending as much time as possible with him in the evenings when he's home.

I am so looking forward to the field notes blog.  Let's hope some of the crazy OTT fans out there don't start complaining that he's still not discussing his personal life.  Anybody care to wager that there will be several tactless responses about the alleged baby, Jaymes, etc????   As long as he's communicating with us and acknowledging our existance, at this stage I'll be very pleased and content.

Very hot and humid day again today.  Thankful for air conditioning, for sure.

TTYL!  :ghug :moped


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Post by: Clanderson on July 08, 2008, 08:26:48 AM
Does that mean a blog on the official Clay site?  I want to make sure where to look, since I'll have to make a quick peek later when I have a break at work. 

Debbie

I could be wrong but I think the blog will only be from the UNICEF site.  That will be better because there wouldn't be any comments from fans about IIT or IINT. I'm sure UNICEF moderates their site and I doubt they'd put any like that through. JMO


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Post by: lucrezianoine on July 08, 2008, 08:48:19 AM
 :wave Good morning everyone. Just checking in here real quick.

Gwenn - will have to watch the montages later.

Will also have to do a quick peek later for the fields notes.

Very hot here in CA @ the moment and since I'm in Northern CA, the there's new fires going on and its making the air quality not so healthy.

 :bang I was late again today! AAAck..damn stupid traffic. They're doing construction on one of our major highways and its killing the commute times for everyone.

I wish they would offer some of the reduction hours here like some of the states have been doing, even just temporarily. It would save on gas and having to deal with the other stuff atm.

Yesterday DH and I came home to a flooded backyard.  :bduh Darn sprinklers were on all Day! DH was like 'oh look we have fish pond but where's the fish?' Thankfully he fixed it and so we won't be seeing any floods today when I get home.

Hugs to everyone :hugg

Jules


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Post by: claydevotee on July 08, 2008, 11:54:08 AM
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could be wrong but I think the blog will only be from the UNICEF site.  That will be better because there wouldn't be any comments from fans about IIT or IINT. I'm sure UNICEF moderates their site and I doubt they'd put any like that through. JMO

 :wave BEV, you're probably right.   My assumption that the "Field Notes" would be part of an OFC blog is most likely incorrect. The UNICEF blogs completely slipped my mind.  :bduh  So in that case the OTT crazy fans won't have the opportunity to whine and complain on the UNICEF site.  That's a very good thing!  :clap

Oy, up to my neck in wedding reception planning.  Fun but rather complicated at times.  :headache Back later. 


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Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 08, 2008, 12:37:59 PM
GWENN, The  montages you shared with us are PRICELESS! What a cutie Clay is. Thank you so much. I smiled through both of them and can't wait for him to come back to us.

Rosemary


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Post by: GWENN on July 08, 2008, 12:50:50 PM
SAW THIS AT CV.  KIND OF OLD NEWS BUT SOMETHING FUN TO THINK ABOUT FOR A CHANGE.  I GUESS CLAY WAS IN LA RIGHT BEFORE HE RAN TO NYC TO SEE HANNAH.  WOW.  THE MAN AND HIS HAREM.   :lmao :lmao :lmao

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This is an online review (one of 98) of "Wicked - The Musical", in Hollywood - dated 06/15/2008.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/wicked-the-musical-hollywood

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06/15/2008

This was my first musical and the results are in....I LOVED IT!

I am not a Wizard of Oz fan by any means. I am 32 and I watched the movie for the first time just a few years ago. I heard many great things about Wicked but I went in with no expectations. It was fantastic! We had awesome seats (orchestra 7 rows from the stage). There was a slight distration though...Tyra Banks and Clay Aiken were seated right in front of us!!

The performances were great, the set was beautiful and the story was nothing short of AMAZING. I went with my girlfriends because I figured that BF would hate it, but from seeing the other men in the audience they seemed to enjoy it just as much as Clay did!

GWENN


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Post by: GWENN on July 08, 2008, 02:24:53 PM
NO FIELD NOTES TODAY. 

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just got an email from my UNICEF contact, they are having issues with the photos, so it will be tomorrow at the earliest before they field notes blog is posted, sorry.....

DAMN.

GWENN


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Post by: claydevotee on July 08, 2008, 02:33:47 PM
NO FIELD NOTES TODAY. 

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just got an email from my UNICEF contact, they are having issues with the photos, so it will be tomorrow at the earliest before they field notes blog is posted, sorry.....

DAMN.

GWENN

Absolutely DAYUM!    :bang :bang


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Post by: lucrezianoine on July 08, 2008, 02:37:50 PM
SAW THIS AT CV.  KIND OF OLD NEWS BUT SOMETHING FUN TO THINK ABOUT FOR A CHANGE.  I GUESS CLAY WAS IN LA RIGHT BEFORE HE RAN TO NYC TO SEE HANNAH.  WOW.  THE MAN AND HIS HAREM.   :lmao :lmao :lmao

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FWIW -

This is an online review (one of 98) of "Wicked - The Musical", in Hollywood - dated 06/15/2008.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/wicked-the-musical-hollywood

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06/15/2008

This was my first musical and the results are in....I LOVED IT!

I am not a Wizard of Oz fan by any means. I am 32 and I watched the movie for the first time just a few years ago. I heard many great things about Wicked but I went in with no expectations. It was fantastic! We had awesome seats (orchestra 7 rows from the stage). There was a slight distration though...Tyra Banks and Clay Aiken were seated right in front of us!!

The performances were great, the set was beautiful and the story was nothing short of AMAZING. I went with my girlfriends because I figured that BF would hate it, but from seeing the other men in the audience they seemed to enjoy it just as much as Clay did!

GWENN

Gwenn- Obviously Tyra and Hannah see the same good qualities we see in our guy. :bigsmile :package

Jules


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 08, 2008, 03:27:58 PM



                                       MIGHTY FINE ASSETS IF YOU ASK ME. :wink  OK SO ASK ME. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 08, 2008, 03:58:48 PM



                                       MIGHTY FINE ASSETS IF YOU ASK ME. :wink  OK SO ASK ME. :lol


Glory, I'll ask you -- but I'm already of the same opinion ---- verra verra nice assets


Gwenn - Thanks for the montages.  It's great to have some distractions while we wait (patiently ?????)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 08, 2008, 04:06:46 PM



                                    I REALLY NEED SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO, COME ON CLAY. I AM EASY TO PLEASE. :blush


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 08, 2008, 04:11:40 PM
who saw the cnn special omg clay looks so sexy in plaid


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 08, 2008, 04:19:11 PM

                                    I REALLY NEED SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO, COME ON CLAY. I AM EASY TO PLEASE. :blush
who saw the cnn special omg clay looks so sexy in plaid

Sexy in plaid? My gosh, we're all easy to please! :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 08, 2008, 04:29:30 PM
I know totally


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 08, 2008, 04:52:01 PM
I think this interview was probably done during CD promos.  They probably added the babydaddy thing to make it more current.


From CV

---Sun-Sentinel.com


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Celebrity travel: Go away with Clay Aiken
Clay Aiken is in the news a lot these days. Besides getting good reviews for his performance in the Broadway musical "Spamalot," the former " American Idol" contestant is busy promoting his latest album "On My Way Here."

But the congenial redhead is keeping mum about the juicy tidbit that has the tabloids drooling: becoming a baby daddy with his good friend Jaymes Foster, who also executive produced his CD. Aiken is more vocal about his love of music and traveling. "There are no plans to tour at this time," says Aiken, 29. "I'd love to tour but there's just no time right now with all the other things going on. I think I've had just one day off in the past few months. It's crazy, but in a good way." A former teacher, Aiken was appointed UNICEF ambassador in 2004. Between touring and making field visits for UNICEF, Aiken has seen a good chunk of the world. But he says he will never forget the beauty and grace of Afghanistan and its people.

WHY AFGHANISTAN: Honestly, I prefer to go to places where no one else goes that haven't been ruined by the touristy thing. I don't know if I would've ever gone to Afghanistan if it hadn't been for my work with UNICEF, but it has been one of my favorite places I've ever been in my life. I stayed eight days there in the central highlands of the country in an area that was relatively fortunate when it came to Taliban attacks. Bamyan is in the central part of the mountains and it is just such a beautiful area.

FAVORITE MEMORIES: I remember going to vacation bible school as a kid and reading about how people lived in biblical times with earthen huts and traveling on horses. I remembered that when I walked around Bamyan. You walk around town and all these huts have satellite dishes on top of them and everyone has cell phones, but a lot of people still sleep on their floors. It's a fascinating combination of new and old. The people there were so nice and welcoming.

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ROUGHING IT: We stayed in a bare bones room with no toilet or indoor plumbing. But the view was magnificent. The whole town was sitting in a valley on the side of the mountains. I think maybe one airplane flew in a few times a week to take people to Kabul. There was never any noise. It was so peaceful. The men worked in the fields, the women at home.

SIGHTSEEING: I enjoy seeing real life. I don't really care so much about going to see all the famous sites. They're very nice and I appreciate them when I do see them, but I don't go out of my way to check out all the monuments. I really like to get a feel for what it would be like to live in whatever country I'm in. I was able to do that a little bit in Afghanistan. People were just so real and natural. Nobody cared about who I was. Honestly, I don't think anyone knew who I was, but they were just so nice to me.

THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT AFGHANISTAN:

FULL COUNTRY NAME: Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.

WHERE IT IS: Slightly smaller in size than Texas, Afghanistan is located east of Iran and west of Pakistan in southern Asia.

OFFICIAL LANGUAGE: Persian.

CURRENCY: Afghani. $1US equals 49.95AFG.

TIME DIFFERENCE: GMT/UTC plus 4.5 (If it's noon in Chicago, then it's 9:30 p.m. in Kabul.)

To learn more about Afghanistan, check out the U.S. Department of State's updates about the country at www.travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1056.html. To read more about Clay Aiken, check out his Website at www.clayaiken.com.



The interviewer is a travel writer.  It was nice that he talked about Clay's Unicef travels.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 08, 2008, 05:09:16 PM


                              WELL OK NO TOUR CAUSE HES GOT OTHER THINGS GOING ON, WE KNEW ABOUT UNICEF SO WHAT ESLE COULD THERE BE. ANY TAKERS.

                       


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 08, 2008, 05:19:42 PM
  Glory,
            I don"t know what other things he has going on.
 For some reason I keep connecting him with the  Olympics
  especially the special  Olympics for people with disabilities.
   Really don"t know why! just some things I read.
                                   

                                   Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 08, 2008, 05:29:58 PM
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I don"t know what other things he has going on.
 For some reason I keep connecting him with the  Olympics
  especially the special  Olympics for people with disabilities.
   Really don"t know why! just some things I read.
                                   


BETTY, I'm so hoping your "inklings'  end up being fact!  IMO Clay would be the ideal spokesman or chief reporter for Special Olymphics.  :clap


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 08, 2008, 05:49:27 PM


                         I AGREE THEA AND BETTY THAT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR HIM. I HOPE HE TAKES TIME OUT FOR A GLASS OF SWEET TEA. ON HIS PATIO.

                             I MISS HIM. HAVE I SAID THAT  :lol WELL I JUST SAID IT AGAIN.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 08, 2008, 05:54:33 PM
i watched a video saying he's taking a break this summer glory and plus maybe he's probably planing either paula dean or this year BAF GALA


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 08, 2008, 05:54:33 PM


                              WELL OK NO TOUR CAUSE HES GOT OTHER THINGS GOING ON, WE KNEW ABOUT UNICEF SO WHAT ESLE COULD THERE BE. ANY TAKERS.                 

Maybe he's having a baby?


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Post by: GWENN on July 08, 2008, 05:55:49 PM
GLORY---I THINK WE ALL MISS HIM.  I WONDER IS HE KNOWS THAT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 08, 2008, 05:59:05 PM

  Thea,
   We want so much for him, don"t we? I agree he would be perfect as a spokesman
    for a special Olympics. Come to think of it, he would be perfect for many things.
    How are the wedding plans coming along? It"s a lot of work but it"s worth it.
     I remember my wedding ,my husband
     had to travel to my home on the train , fell
     asleep and went way past going up North. I thought I was going to be left at the
     alter but he managed to get back.
               Fingers crossed for good things  for OMC! Now and always.


                                                                 Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 08, 2008, 05:59:30 PM
hey sundancer clay hasn't even coomented on those rumors and I told people in in tabloids Bloggers fourm to wait and see because tabloids make up stuff when really nothing was said and done


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 08, 2008, 06:01:20 PM
hey sundancer clay hasn't even coomented on those rumors and I told people in in tabloids Bloggers fourm to wait and see because tabloids make up stuff when really nothing was said and done

I know he hasn't commented on the rumors. And I know tabloids make things up. That's why I wrote "maybe" and ended with a question mark. :wink


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Post by: fhmmany2 on July 08, 2008, 06:46:43 PM
 :wave

Well, it finally happened - I burned out my DVD player - have been watching too many Clay DVDs  :lol He is obviously too  :flame for machinery   :lmao


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Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 08, 2008, 06:55:38 PM
:wave

Well, it finally happened - I burned out my DVD player - have been watching too many Clay DVDs  :lol He is obviously too  :flame for machinery   :lmao

FRANKIE - I think Clay is at least partially responsible for "global warming".  :bigsmile  Yep, he is HAWT!


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Post by: GWENN on July 08, 2008, 07:12:39 PM
:wave

Well, it finally happened - I burned out my DVD player - have been watching too many Clay DVDs  :lol He is obviously too  :flame for machinery   :lmao

 :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 08, 2008, 07:34:47 PM
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Well, it finally happened - I burned out my DVD player - have been watching too many Clay DVDs   He is obviously too   for machinery   


 :lol :lol :lol FRANKIE.  You certainly put that DVD player to good use, though!!!!  Well done!!!  :clap

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How are the wedding plans coming along? It"s a lot of work but it"s worth it.
     I remember my wedding ,my husband
     had to travel to my home on the train , fell
     asleep and went way past going up North. I thought I was going to be left at the
     alter but he managed to get back.

Thanks for asking, BETTY!  :hugg  Everything is going quite well.  My son, DIL-to-be and I went to the reception place this past Saturday to talk with the director.  We got a lot accomplished that day.  Plus today I finally booked a beautiful String Quartet for the reception.  Although I'd rather have PRISSY's quartet playing, this will do the job!!!
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I know he hasn't commented on the rumors. And I know tabloids make things up. That's why I wrote "maybe" and ended with a question mark.

Fear not, SUNNY, you made your point very well.   :hugg 

I know this has been said before, but wouldn't a few cold, hard facts straight from Clay and his people help to dispel some of the speculation and rumors flying around about him???   :scratch




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Post by: claydevotee on July 08, 2008, 07:41:09 PM
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GLORY---I THINK WE ALL MISS HIM.  I WONDER IS HE KNOWS THAT.

GWENN

GWENN and GLORY.  No tomatoes please, but sometimes I wonder any more if he even cares  that we miss him. I'd love to continue to believe that he does, though.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 08, 2008, 07:43:43 PM
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I know this has been said before, but wouldn't a few cold, hard facts straight from Clay and his people help to dispel some of the speculation and rumors flying around about him???   scratch

THEA---WE AREN'T GOING TO HEAR ANY FACTS ANY TIME SOON.  AS I SAID TO SUNNY IN A PM, I THINK CLAY IS ANGRY WITH THE FANS FOR THE BAD THINGS THAT WERE SAID ABOUT JAYMES AT THE OFC WHEN THE BABY STUFF FIRST HIT.  JMO BUT I REMEMBER HIM SAYING THE OFC WOULD NEVER BE CENSORED AND IT SURE WAS AFTER THAT RAMPAGE.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 08, 2008, 07:47:29 PM
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THEA---WE AREN'T GOING TO HEAR ANY FACTS ANY TIME SOON.  AS I SAID TO SUNNY IN A PM, I THINK CLAY IS ANGRY WITH THE FANS FOR THE BAD THINGS THAT WERE SAID ABOUT JAYMES AT THE OFC WHEN THE BABY STUFF FIRST HIT.  JMO BUT I REMEMBER HIM SAYING THE OFC WOULD NEVER BE CENSORED AND IT SURE WAS AFTER THAT RAMPAGE.

GWENN

Dayum, maybe if we all decided to boycott the OFC maybe he'd finally realize that the posts made by OTT fans on the OFC are not representative of the majority of his fans. 

EDIT;  I'm not sure how much sense this post made, so I am publishing an official disclaimer (my mind has officially switched off for the night!!)  :bduh :lol



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 08, 2008, 08:35:41 PM


                              WELL OK NO TOUR CAUSE HES GOT OTHER THINGS GOING ON, WE KNEW ABOUT UNICEF SO WHAT ESLE COULD THERE BE. ANY TAKERS.                 

Maybe he's having a baby?

You see? Clay is blazing new trails wherever he goes!! Wonder what he will look like pregnant? He likes to do things differently, thats for sure! :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 09, 2008, 03:52:51 AM
Personally, I don't think we'll ever hear from Clay regarding the baby.  IIT, we'll most likely hear it from a press release on from the tabloids.  Sad, really.  And for those expecting a picture.....dream on.   JMHO. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 09, 2008, 05:56:42 AM
CLAY'S FIRST FIELDNOTES.  WOW HE SOUNDS SO ----ANGRY.  AND I DON'T BLAME HIM. 

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Where is the outrage?

I recently returned from a UNICEF field visit that took me to northwest Somalia. What I saw there was both amazing and heartbreaking. In many ways, the children I was able to meet are doing better than their counterparts in the rest of Somalia. But in other respects, the situation there is still quite serious.

For starters, the lack of a permanent central government has contributed to Somalia's status as one of the poorest and most volatile countries in the world. Decades of civil conflict have shattered social structures and exacerbated poverty.

In such conditions—combined with an extremely arid environment and difficult terrain with settlements scattered over vast distances—a Somali child's chances of surviving to adulthood are among the lowest of children anywhere in the world.

Fortunately, UNICEF is there. It has been on the ground since 1972 and is the humanitarian organization with the largest presence in Somalia.

Since the collapse of the Somali government in 1991, UNICEF has continued to provide services to children and women in Somalia.

In Hargeisa, I visited UNICEF-supported schools and hospitals, as well as places girls are able to learn about leadership, get life-skills and play sports. I also visited UNICEF-supported maternal and child health clinics to observe some nutritional feeding and immunization activities. The good news is that these programs are working in the northwest and keeping children alive. The bad news is that one in eight children still dies before his or her fifth birthday in Somalia.

One of the most incredible things I learned on my trip is that there are only 350 doctors left in the entire country, mostly because of the violence and insecurity. And many of these doctors are older than the average life expectancy in Somalia, which is only 45. I can't help but wonder, what is going to happen in a couple of years when there are no more doctors? What will happen to the children who struggle to survive?

What disturbs me most about this terrible situation for children is that most of the world has ignored it. Millions of children live in fear and poverty—where is the outrage?

http://fieldnotes.unicefusa.org/field_visit/

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 09, 2008, 06:59:20 AM
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Where is the outrage?
Hopefully, it will start forming now.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 09, 2008, 07:05:29 AM
Actually I think Jaymes is a very nice lady how could anyone talk bad about her


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 09, 2008, 07:19:32 AM
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What disturbs me most about this terrible situation for children is that most of the world has ignored it. Millions of children live in fear and poverty—where is the outrage?

Sadly there are so many terrible situations for children in this world today, even within our country's shores.  And especially now during this political season of mudslinging among the candidates the media is doing a great job of hiding these situations from us in favor of ratings grabbing stories.  What I don't understand is how they can put crass reality shows like "Moment of Truth" and "Circus of the Stars"  on prime time on the major networks when shows like the CNN discussion of UNICEF this past Sunday is hidden.  Heck, last week I couldn't even find any information about the show on my Dish Network "info" button so that I could record it.  I almost missed the UNICEF show as a result. 

There is outrage, but many of us feel at a loss as to what to do.  Yes, we can use our checkbooks but many of us question how much of these contributions actually get to the children who need it? 

I do know that humanitarian missionaries from many churches, including my own, are over there helping in the trenches.  That is how I contribute, knowing that these doctors, nurses, etc are paying their own way and not asking for any financial assistance so that they can help.  When we contribute, it is with the knowledge that the $$$ will go towards food and medical supplies.  So that is my way of contributing.

In summary, I think we need to encourage the media outlets to publicize these atrocities more actively.  Also, we need to be sure that whatever $$$ we contribute goes to a charity that doesn't take a 40% or so cut for unnecessary expenses.



Thanks for listening to my rant!!!

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Where is the outrage?
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Hopefully, it will start forming now.
Agreed, SUNNY!   But I think it's already been there in the hearts of so many of us.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 09, 2008, 07:33:16 AM

                             SERIOUSLY SOME PEOPLE HAD RATHER READ THE TABLOID TRASH INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THE WORLDS CHILDREN.SAD STATE OF OUR SOCIETY,THERE ARE KIDS IN THE US GOING TO BED HUNGARY,POVERTY ABOUNDS IN THE US THOUGH NOTHING ON THE SCALE OF THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES.IF I COULD I WOULD TAKE ALL THE BAD STUFF THAT IS GOING ON. I FUSS QUITE OFTEN ABOUT MY SITUATION BUT IN THE END I COUNT MY BLESSINGS EVERYDAY.

                                 WHAT IS MY POINT DON'T REALLY HAVE ONE  JUST PONDERING WHAT I CAN DO TO HELP.JUST PRAY THAT GOD WILL TOUCH THE HEARTS OF THOSE THAT CAUSE SUCH CONFLICTS IN THE WORLD AND HOPE FOR A BETTER TOMORROW AND THANK MY LUCKY STARS THAT WE HAVE CLAY,TO HELP.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 09, 2008, 07:34:44 AM
i still hope clay's ok and has anyone found out when he's going to be on paula dean


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Post by: PHILLYLUVSCLAY on July 09, 2008, 08:17:44 AM
NEW PIC # 1 (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/ldyjocelyn/clayinsomalia2.jpg)

NEW PIC # 2 (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/ldyjocelyn/clayinsomalia1.jpg)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 09, 2008, 08:22:59 AM
THIS WHOLE UNICEF THING HAS PUT SUCH A HOLE IN MY HEART.  I KNOW THE HORRORS IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES.  I THINK WE ALL DO.  AND I THINK WE ALL FEEL SO DAMN HELPLESS.

I HAVE SEEN FIRST HAND THE HORRORS IN THIS COUNTRY FROM THE MANY YEARS I TAUGHT IN POVERTY SCHOOLS.  BUT AT LEAST THOSE KIDS ATE.  HAD CLEAN WATER.  AND WERE SAFE A FEW HOURS A DAY.

WE NEED SOME FUN IN THIS FANDOM RIGHT NOW.  BETWEEN THE BABY ANGST AND THE UNICEF HORRORS, I THINK WE ARE ALL FEELING KIND OF DOWN.  WE ALL HAVE OUR RL BUT WE ARE ALL SO INVESTED IN THIS LIFE ALSO.  I WISH PAULA DEAN WAS COMING ON SOON.  I HEARD SOME TIME IN AUGUST.  OY.  AUGUST AGAIN.

SORRY FOR BEING SO DOWN. MAYBE I NEED TO WATCH SOME CLACK.  BUT I AM TAKING MYSELF SHOPPING INSTEAD.

GWENN

ETA--THANKS SO MUCH, THERESA.  I REALLY NEEDED TO SEE THOSE PIX.   :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 09, 2008, 08:35:53 AM
aww those pics are so cute who can not think clay holding a baby or a little is not cute bcause i got a friend who said it's not cute


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 09, 2008, 08:37:19 AM
MAINER--YOUR POSTS ARE ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO READ. :clap

AS FOR THE PM FEATURE---UNDER THE AVIE OF THE PERSON YOU WANT TO PM IS A LITTLE GREEN THINGY.  I CANNOT TELL WHAT IT IS.  BUT IF YOU CLICK ON THAT, A BLANK MESSAGE SPACE COMES UP.  LIKE WHEN YOU HIT REPLY FOR THE MESSAGE BOARD.  IF SOMEONE SENDS YOU A PM, THEN UNDER YOUR AVIE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE IS A SPOT THAT SHOWS NEW MESSAGES.  I WILL SEND YOU ONE.  SEE IF YOU GET IT.

I NOW HAVE A NEW DESKTOP.  THE LOOK ON HIS FACE AS HE IS LOOKING AT THAT INFANT, WELL.  DEJA VU IIT. 

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 09, 2008, 08:43:47 AM
wow


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 09, 2008, 08:58:32 AM

I know this has been said before, but wouldn't a few cold, hard facts straight from Clay and his people help to dispel some of the speculation and rumors flying around about him???   :scratch




NO NOT REALLY.....THEY DIDN'T COMMENT A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN HIS LAST CD CAME OUT AND THE POND SCUM RAISED THEIR HEADS WITH ALL THE TRASH IN THE RAG MAGS AND THE SUPPOSED PICTURES.....THEY KNEW IT WASN'T TRUE AND I BELIEVE THEY JUST SET BACK AND LET IT GO UNTIL IT FINALLY WORE ITSELF OUT AND DISAPPEARED.....THAT MAY BE WHAT THEY ARE DOING NOW ALSO.....NOT PAYING ANY ATTENTION TO THE RECENT TRASH AND JUST GOING ON WITH THEIR DAY TO DAY BUSINESS....KNOWING THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT ON IT'S OWN WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO LOWER THEMSELVES TO EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THE POND SCUM.....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 09, 2008, 08:59:40 AM
SUNNY---HUH????? :bduh  THAT IS MAINER'S POST.   

I JUST SENT THE URL TO THE FIELDNOTES---WHICH NOW CONTAINS THE PIX AND SOME EDITING----TO SOME OF MY NONCLAY FRIENDS WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW I FEEL ABOUT CLAY.  I AM CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER THEY WILL RESPOND.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 09, 2008, 09:20:28 AM
I just read the field notes and saw the photos - once again, I am so proud to be a card-carrying member of the Clay Nation! Way to go, Clay! No matter what, you always seem to take care of what is really important.  :clap


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 09, 2008, 09:44:42 AM
i rght with you


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 09, 2008, 09:47:07 AM
Mainer - if you are trying to send a private message to one person, you should be able to click on the number of messages underneath your avie (top of the page on the left), and you should be taken to the message center, where you should be able to enter the screen name of anyone on this site, put in a message subject, and post and send a message. If you are getting an error message, one of the Moderators will be able to help you. I just checked, and the message center is working fine for me.

And there were some horrible posts on the OFC the day the baby news came out - pages and pages of horrible messages. IF THE RUMOUR IS TRUE I have a feeling that no one would have said a word if Clay had announced that he and Jaymes were in love and planned to have a family together. I think it is just the idea that "we are friends and we have decided to have a baby because we want one" that bothers a lot of people. Shirl said, after she attended a California Fan Club meeting last Sunday, that she is shocked at  the number of people who are still truly unhappy with Clay and the way he has handled this news - true or not. I think that those of us who think Clay has a right to live his own life as he chooses are in the minority in the fandom - or maybe we are just the quiet ones.

As to the press and magazines - I have  always tried to give positive feedback to every article and TV show  that have featured Clay - and I have always hoped that all other fans take the time to do so, too. It has always been my opinion that we can't sit back and let the press think that we don't care what they do. I signed up for the O.K. Magazine internet poll long ago (I have posted the site to sign up in the magazine thread several times). I get an email once a week asking my opinion about what I want to see in the magazine.  Lots of people think Clay fans should keep quiet because when we speak we are lumped together as a group of crazy people, but I disagree.  O.K. - I'm off my soapbox for now!  :lol :soapbox


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 09, 2008, 10:17:36 AM
SUNNY---HUH????? :bduh 

Yeah, I know. I'm working on it. Keyboard's messing up.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 09, 2008, 10:44:17 AM
Oh my!  His goodness radiates around the world.  He brightens the lives of these precious children, if only for a minute.  He gives them smiles and hopes.  What an extraordinary man!  Kudos to Clay and all who work to make us aware of the plight in our world.  I do believe they are making a difference. 

And, now for a little shallowness.......he looks hot!  :flame  Love the hair!  :wow  I think I see sideburns!  :please  Holy crap, the shoulders!   :thud

I Love Him!!!   :heartburst


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: PHILLYLUVSCLAY on July 09, 2008, 10:55:45 AM
I LIKE DIPPING INTO THE "SHALLOW POOL" MYSELF... :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 09, 2008, 10:56:34 AM
I LIKE DIPPING INTO THE "SHALLOW POOL" MYSELF... :bigsmile
:lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 09, 2008, 10:59:25 AM
:cry Look at those pics!

I just love his caring heart. It makes me so proud to be a fan.

Now I'm printing out those pics to put by my work computer.  :smile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: quynn on July 09, 2008, 11:10:12 AM
Regarding Jaymes, remember what happened to Linda McCartney?  To be truly and seriously jealous (not just a little!) of or spiteful about Jaymes is to question Clay's self knowledge and self determination.  I do not think that any true fan of Clay's can question his personal choices.

I don't think that fans who question any of Clay's decisions and life choices  should have their "true fan" membership card taken away or their fanship loyalty questioned.  Because, really, what is the exact definition of a "true fan."  People have the right to question anything he does from his choices in hairstyles, clothing, song choices to the selection for mother of his children.  He's a celebrity in the public eye with a group of people....fans....who follow him around, and support his celebrity lifestyle based on the choice of music he makes, the projects he involves himself in, the causes he stand for, the manner in which he presents himself to the public and the image he chooses to portray.  Not everyone is going to love every thing he does.  No one is perfect and not even Clay has the ability to please everyone 24/7. 

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If Clay has chosen Jaymes, and I suspect that he may have, then we must all know that she is one genuinely fantastic person who well deserves his love and commitment, and who is absolutely worthy of the great lengths to which they have both gone (IIT) to be a family.

I have to disagree with this.  How is it even remotely possible to know with certainty that just because Clay may be having a child with Jaymes she is a fantastic person?  She may be a fantastic person to him, of course, that is possible from his perspective, but I don't see how her relationship with Clay translates to her being a "genuinely fantastic" person deserving of a favorable opinion in the eyes of everyone?

I don't frequent the OFC, so did not see the "trashing" of Jaymes.  That type of behavior lacks class.  However, voicing unfavorable opinions or concerns with respect should be accepted by all fans, whether we agree with the opinoins/concerns or not.  It doesn't mean people who aren't thrilled with the possibility of Jaymes and Clay parenting together aren't "true fans."  IMO...YMMV.

Thank you Gwenn for posting the field blog and Philly for providing the beautiful pictures.  Sounds like Clay had a very eye opening trip.  I'm ready to donate. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 09, 2008, 11:33:59 AM
I am in such AWE of this wonderful man.  What joy he radiates to others...How anyone could not love & admire this man is beyond me..   :shrug

The pictures of him with the children are very touching. He is truely in his element when he is with them, and you can see how much he loves being with them by his wonderful smile..It sure made me smile too.   :luv

There appears to be a small mike on his shirt, do you think there may be a video ?

Philly, I agree with you ,its hard to pass up the" shallow pool "... the hair, sunglasses, the pastel shirts, the shoulders, the look on his face with the baby, and don't forget that SMILE!!!  :thud        :wow

I LOVE THIS MAN!!!! :heartburst


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 09, 2008, 12:19:02 PM
  Mimi,
          What wonderful pictures. Clay is in his element with children. He looked to have a
    look of great concern when he was holding the little one, he was probably wondering what kind
    of future  was in store for the child. How can anyone hate that wonderful man.
           I do not know Jaymes so can"t pass any judgement. From what I have heard some OFC
      members had a lot of very ugly things to say. If Clay read them he must have been very hurt
      that so called fans could so hastily judge the situation with only trash from tabloids to go on.
       Personally, I can understand why he has not made a statemen, he knows whatever he says
       will be leaked to the slimeballs and twisted. Much as I would love to hear from him I am content to
        wait until we know the whole truth and if we don"t "So be It" Life is far too short for all this hatred.
           Please don"t throw tomatoes ........... they are contaminated!!!!!!

                                                    Betty




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 09, 2008, 01:20:58 PM
I AM JUMPING INTO THE SHALLOW POOL AS WELL.  THOSE SHOULDERS DAMN NEAR KILLED ME.  HOW CAN HE LOOK SO GOOD IN SUCH TERRIBLE CONDITIONS?  I DON'T KNOW.  THIS MAN JUST GETS HOTTER AND HOTTER EVERY DAY.

JILL--- :clap :clap :clap :clap  I WANT TO WRITE LIKE YOU SOMEDAY. :hugg

AS FOR JAYMES-----WE ARE NEVER, EVER GONNA KNOW WHAT HE FEELS OR SHE FEELS.  THAT IS TRULY NOT OUR BUSINESS.  WHATEVER THEY HAVE TOGETHER, THEY MAY ALSO HAVE A CHILD TOGETHER.  I DON'T SEE MUCH ROMANCE BUT WHAT DO I KNOW.  HE IS ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH ONE WOMAN AFTER ANOTHER.  THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ROMANCE TO ME. 

I AM NOT A JUDGMENTAL PERSON.  NOT AT ALL.  WE ALL HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT THIS SITUATION.  IIT, IT SURE ISN'T THE NORM THAT FOLKS EXPECTED FROM CLAY.  BUT WE ARE NOT IN HIS HEAD.  THAT GORGEOUS HEAD HAS ALL KINDS OF ISSUES.  JUST READ HIS BOOK.  AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN HIS PERSONAL LIFE SINCE AI2.  I AM TIRED OF SECOND GUESSING AND SPECULATING.

WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS WHAT I READ IN THE FIELDNOTES AND WHAT I SEE IN THE PICTURES.  WHAT HAPPENS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS IS NUTS IN EVERY SINGLE HOME IN THIS COUNTRY.  OZZIE AND HARRIET AND HAPPY DAYS JUST DON'T EXIST.  WE ALL NEED TO FIND PEACE AND HAPPINESS IN WHATEVER WAY WE CAN AS LONG AS WE ARE GOOD AND CARING PEOPLE.

BASHING OF JAYMES WAS WRONG.  I AM NOT A FAN OF HERS BECAUSE OF HOW I THINK SHE HAS INFLUENCED HIS CAREER.  NOT IN A GOOD WAY IMO.  BUT IT IS HIS LIFE AND HIS CAREER. 

I AM HAPPY RIGHT NOW TO LOOK AT THE SHOULDERS AND READ THE INTELLIGENT AND CARING WORDS.  THAT IS ALL WE HAVE FOR A WHILE AND WE BETTER BE SATISFIED WITH IT.

I WILL BE HONEST.  I WANT TO KNOW IT ALL.  I WANT HIM TO TELL US THE WHOLE STORY WITHOUT LEAVING OUT ONE SINGLE DETAIL.  IT AIN'T HAPPENING ANY TIME SOON.   :bang :bang :bang

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayHeart on July 09, 2008, 01:28:13 PM
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GLORY---I THINK WE ALL MISS HIM.  I WONDER IS HE KNOWS THAT.

GWENN

GWENN and GLORY.  No tomatoes please, but sometimes I wonder any more if he even cares  that we miss him. I'd love to continue to believe that he does, though.

I believe he still cares.  Clay has shown us in many ways (going through the fan lines ... who else does that!) and he's said many times in the past how much he appreciates his fans.  But we don't know what's going on in his personal life and why he's making the decisions he's making.  He could be burned out and needing some rest, or doing more of his humanitarian efforts.  I'm sure he doesn't publicize everything he does in that arena.  If he's not going to burn out, he can't put the fans first.  I do agree that he could blog just a bit more, but there may be a reason he isn't.  Well, time will tell.  I pray for him and wish him well.  Hope all of you have a great night.
Debbie


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 09, 2008, 02:11:19 PM
 :clap :clap :clap Love all of the comments - and I'm glad that we are all free to make them!  Claymaniacs is the only place I feel free to have a Clay discusion. I have not been back to the OFC since the night the baby rumour started - as I've said 100 times before - a really poor excuse for a Fan Club.

Mainer - I thought I was the only one alone in fandom! I am amazed at the people where I live who still, to this day, do not even know what American Idol is, much less Clay!  :lol but at least I am known as the Clay Aiken Fan in town. On the rare occasions that he has had a photo in the Shreveport newspapers (it has happened twice!) people appear with copies for me  :roflmao And if he is on TV, I make Lewis answer the phone, because there will be a string of friends calling to let me know  he is on (as Lewis says, if they just knew that Clay does not sneeze without me knowing it!  :lmao )

Now I am going to go for a swim in the shallow pool  :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 09, 2008, 02:43:22 PM
I WILL BE HONEST.  I WANT TO KNOW IT ALL.  I WANT HIM TO TELL US THE WHOLE STORY WITHOUT LEAVING OUT ONE SINGLE DETAIL. 
Then, maybe what you really want is Jaymes to tell the whole story. :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 09, 2008, 03:01:15 PM
To be truly and seriously jealous (not just a little!) of or spiteful about Jaymes is to question Clay's self knowledge and self determination. 
I don't know that it has anything to do with questioning Clay. I think some of these people just wanted a close, personal relationship with him so much--and convinced themselves it would happen--that when this story came along, they got an unwanted blast of reality. They're not going to meet him and make him fall in love and live happily ever after with them. Losing their fantasy can make some folks angry. :shrug


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If Clay has chosen Jaymes, and I suspect that he may have, then we must all know that she is one genuinely fantastic person who well deserves his love and commitment, and who is absolutely worthy of the great lengths to which they have both gone (IIT) to be a family.
The fact of his liking/loving her does not determine for me how good a person she is. It tells me that he likes or loves her; that's all. There's a lot more, in my mind, to being "genuinely fantastic" and "worthy" as a human being than whether or not one is personally loved by Clay Aiken.


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Who better to call attention to the plight of children in Somaliland and Somalia than Clay.  Maybe his fans can help draw more attention to this specific situation. 
The fans can certainly donate, and I think those donations can help a great deal. But becoming soldiers of Clay's causes and striving to "get the word out" to the general population is not, I believe, as beneficial. Movements like that tend to make fans look crazy--and Clay, as our "leader," look even crazier.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 09, 2008, 03:32:32 PM
we should keep quiet and those who are unhappy with clay should get over it because we stand by OMC


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 09, 2008, 03:46:24 PM
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He could be burned out and needing some rest, or doing more of his humanitarian efforts.

Or taking LaMaze classes and reading What to Expect While You're Expecting.


I think it's important that we not judge Clay based upon his POV stated in a book written in 2004.  People evolve.  His choices were made based upon his own reality and we don't know the intimate details of his reality, and neither should we. 

But I do object to being treated so shabbily IMO.   He should at least acknowledge that his fans have been sucked into this unwittingly, that they are having to deal with the fallout.  It would be courteous to put out a simple statement like "Jaymes and I are expecting a baby in August.  We are very happy.  I will be taking familial leave for an undetermined amount of time.  Thank you for your good wishes."

Is that really too much to ask as a member of his fan club?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayfannj on July 09, 2008, 04:02:49 PM
The field notes as usual  are perceptive, moving and so articulate.. We  see the the best of him as he fulfills his role of Mr. Ambassador.. For just an evening, that is what I'd like to focus on.. The pictures  too speak volumes!!....

I am leaving tomorrow morning for California and the National Hadassah Convention..  This organization as well contributes money, goods, medical equipment drugs  and medical  staff to so many of these impoverished third world nations. Part of what I see are the reports that come in about just that.. from actual leaders and participants.. It is very moving..I also do my share through  my role here..As Thea mentioned, I too know when I contribute and raise funds for this organization that it goes directly to where it should...I think UNICEF does important work, but much has been written and exposed about the workings of the UN and I am a bit skeptical as to   whether  UN administered funds  truly finally gets to those so needy and deserving...

Anyway...on a lighter note....  I am keeping my eyes peeled just in case BF is on the same flight to LA as I am...(He does have to get back to NY and then LA??? one might think??)

In my fantasy I sit next to him and "SHARE" what is on my ipod!!!! :bigsmile

I'll check in and see you in 2 weeks... :wave



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on July 09, 2008, 04:14:38 PM
I just wanted to say that I love reading everyone's comments.  You are all so articulate, that I never have anything to add  :hugg.   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 09, 2008, 05:05:42 PM
I WILL BE HONEST.  I WANT TO KNOW IT ALL.  I WANT HIM TO TELL US THE WHOLE STORY WITHOUT LEAVING OUT ONE SINGLE DETAIL.
Then, maybe what you really want is Jaymes to tell the whole story. :slick

WELL, SUNNY, THAT WORKS FOR ME.   :wink

FRANNIE--I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU.  IT WOULDN'T KILL HIM TO SAY SOMETHING.  I DON'T MUCH CARE WHAT.  BUT IGNORING THE FAN CLUB IS JUST NOT RIGHT.  PEOPLE PAID MONEY AND EXPECT SOMETHING IN RETURN.  ANYTHING.  THIS FANDOM IS THRILLED WITH A CRUMB.  MAYBE JAYMES DOESN'T WANT ANYTHING SAID UNTIL THE BABY IS BORN SINCE, AT HER AGE, IT IS SUCH A HIGH RISK THING.  I AM LIKE THAT.  I DIDN'T ALLOW ANY BABY ITEMS IN THE HOUSE UNTIL I DELIVERED AND ER WAS FINE. 

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 09, 2008, 05:17:15 PM
now in my opinion clay has everyright to keep his personal life to himself and if you people are gonna get all worked up and pissed about it then stopp thinking about it personally if it's true i'm happy and if it's not that's ok too


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 09, 2008, 05:18:34 PM
I just finished catching up with what has gone on today.  Thanks to all for your wonderful comments.

Reading the field notes and looking at those awesome pictures say so much about this man.  He really does want to make a difference and marches to the beat of his own drum.  We may not understand everything he does--do our own families understand everything we do all the time--but we do know a few things:  he is an absolutely marvelous singer and entertainer and he certainly loves the humanitarian work he does.

Those pictures go from one extreme to the other -- in one he is looking so protective and caring at a little baby that he knows may not even get old enough to go to school; in the other he has such a beautiful smile on his face and his presence and attitude have made all those children around him smile too.  One thing that came to my mind is that these children may not have had anything to smile about for a long time.  At least, he brightened their lives for a short period of time. 

I did not go to the OFC and read any of the horrible comments made about Jaymes by some members so I don't exactly know what went on--although it sounds like it wasn't very pretty.  All I know is that -- whatever is or is not happening -- no one should be so critical of someone they really don't even know or understand.  Sure, it would be nice to hear something from Clay but I don't think that is going to happen for a while.   IINT then it's not his place -- it's Jaymes' place to set the story straight.  I do think Clay is stubborn enough that he will not say a thing because of the whole way it happened. 

I think Sunny hit the nail on the head when she said some of the people slinging mud that night were probably jealous because they wanted to be that important person in Clay's life--wake up and get a life people because it probably ain't gonna happen.

It looks and sounds like we are about to get a storm here so I'd better turn the computer off.  Hope to be back later.



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 09, 2008, 05:20:19 PM


                                   GWENN I AM IN THE SAME CAR AS YOU IT WOULD NOT HURT HIM TO JUST POP IN AND SAY HI I AM FINE.WHAT 5 MINUTES MAKES ME KINDA AGGREVIATED I WILL NOT JOIN AGAIN.I BET A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL THIS WAY. NOT SAYING I DON'T LOVE HIM CAUSE I DO. A LOT OF MONEY GOES TO CLAY AND HIS ENDEVORS,I HOPE HIS FANBASE DOES NOT SUFFER OVER THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION,  MAYBE HE IS UPSET ABOUT CD SALES OR THE ONES WHO BASHED HIM OVER THE BABY STORY.HE NEEDS TO SAY HI HONEYS I AM HOME.............. :lol JMHO, NO TOMATOES THEY ARE DANGEROUS THESE DAYS.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 09, 2008, 05:21:29 PM
I just watched ET (no Clay mention)and they were showing some of the Summer Parade Poll results..so after checking here are some results ,I thought you might be interested in:

Whos the better rocker:

Chris Daughtry 51%
David Cook  49%

Who's the better balladeer:

Clay Aiken  84%
David Archuleta  16%

Who's your favorite songbird:

Kelly Clarkson  53%
Carrie Underwood  47%


Who's the more soulful singer:

Ruben Studdard  85%
Fantasia  15%

On the best daytime talk show host, Ellen D just won over Tyra, 51% to 49%.

I don't know how many of you voted but it was a lot of fun,and filled in for not having much Clay clack ..The results for the whole poll are at Parade.com


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 09, 2008, 05:25:31 PM
When watched one and after he said about his break that he will most likely go on tour again


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 09, 2008, 06:12:51 PM
 :wave Dear CM'ers!

Sorry I have been gone most of today  (although I did get on my soapbox about Clay's field notes a few pages back!  :lol).  My brother decided at the last minute to stay here this afternoon through tomorrow before he gets on the plane back to his home in Maryland.  Nothing like 3 hours notice for an overnight guest!   :hypno :hypno

Anyway, I am thrilled with the two picture links posted by our dear PHILLY.  They reflected Clay's love and devotion to the poor children in Somalia.  He is truly one in a million.

Back to entertaining my house guest.  AARRGHGHG, I would love to just crawl into bed right about now. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 09, 2008, 06:18:36 PM
When watched one and after he said about his break that he will most likely go on tour again


One of his last remarks about a tour was that they're are no plans for one.  It was one of the last interviews he did before his "rest".


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lucrezianoine on July 09, 2008, 06:32:59 PM
I LIKE DIPPING INTO THE "SHALLOW POOL" MYSELF... :bigsmile

I've got my scuba gear on and am ready to take a dive in that 'SHALLOW POOL' myself. Oh but I can't swim and damn OMC doesn't like water so whose going to rescue me?! Well I'll guess I'll just have to settle for 'resuscitation' I mean camp counselor Clay has some training in CPR right? :bigsmile :blush :raft

I have a question too for those of you who were able to meet him at your M & G..when you were held by Clay during your pictures or however close you were, I just wonder:

WHAT DID HE SMELL LIKE?  Sorry I don't know where the question came from, must be from clack overload but feel free to tell me I'm crazy if that's the only response you have to this question. :roflmao :bduh

Jules


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 09, 2008, 06:42:17 PM
When watched one and after he said about his break that he will most likely go on tour again


One of his last remarks about a tour was that they're are no plans for one.  It was one of the last interviews he did before his "rest".
Back for a little "break" from company....
MICKI, I certainly wish he would rethink those plans for no tour.  I know he is busy with his humanitarian activities and his personal life, but I wish he would reach out to those of us who have been hanging in with him over these past several years.  The best way IMO would be to do a tour, even if it needs to be in small venues. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 09, 2008, 06:47:15 PM
Thanks for all the comments today. The pictures of Clay and the Field Notes were awesome and awe inspiring. I donated some money on Sunday after the CNN special.

So happy like everyone here to SEE the new pictures of Clay. He is in his element!  :hot2


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 09, 2008, 06:48:38 PM
PS   I forgot to mention that I belong to OFC and I like Claymaniacs SOOOOOOOOO much better! You are all able to be respectful about OMC and I just appreciate this site more.  :blush


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 09, 2008, 06:48:57 PM
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The best way IMO would be to do a tour, even if it needs to be in small venues. 
Very small. Like phone booths.

Too bad they don't have those anymore. They would have been great for a "Ring My Bell" Tour. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 09, 2008, 06:50:24 PM
Someone said he smells like clean dryer sheets


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 09, 2008, 06:52:13 PM
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The best way IMO would be to do a tour, even if it needs to be in small venues. 
Very small. Like phone booths.

Too bad they don't have those anymore. They would have been great for a "Ring My Bell" Tour. :wink

SUNNY, at the risk of redundancy....GUFFAW!!!   :lol :naughty :wiggle


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 09, 2008, 07:01:54 PM
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The best way IMO would be to do a tour, even if it needs to be in small venues. 
Very small. Like phone booths.

Too bad they don't have those anymore. They would have been great for a "Ring My Bell" Tour. :wink

 :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

HONESTLY, I AM NOT SURE BUT I KIND OF FEEL SOMETHING ELSE IS IN THE WORKS.  JUST INTUITION.  BUT I AM HOPING FOR A TOUR NEXT YEAR.  EARLY.

THEA--ENJOY YOUR COMPANY.

JULES--TO BE HONEST, WHEN HE PUT HIS STUBBLE ON MY CHEEK HELD MY HAND, AND PUT HIS ARM AROUND ME, I COULD BARELY FUNCTION.  IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME TO TAKE A WHIFF.  :bigsmile  MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE CAN ANSWER.

BACK TO LAW AND ORDER.   :bigsmile :bang

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: quynn on July 09, 2008, 07:02:07 PM
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The best way IMO would be to do a tour, even if it needs to be in small venues. 
Very small. Like phone booths.

Too bad they don't have those anymore. They would have been great for a "Ring My Bell" Tour. :wink

BWAH!  I'd love to be with Clay in a phone booth and ring his bell...and then he could ring mine.   :bouncy

Re:  Clay's scent....when Clay has his arm around you and you around him, you really don't have the ability to focus on his smell....for me it was all about how it "felt", the "touch"....so can't really say what he smelled like, but I feel confident it was good.  :flower


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 09, 2008, 07:05:32 PM
JULES--TO BE HONEST, WHEN HE PUT HIS STUBBLE ON MY CHEEK HELD MY HAND, AND PUT HIS ARM AROUND ME, I COULD BARELY FUNCTION.  IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME TO TAKE A WHIFF.  :bigsmile 

You see, she had stopped breathing by this point. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: PHILLYLUVSCLAY on July 09, 2008, 07:08:22 PM
JULES--TO BE HONEST, WHEN HE PUT HIS STUBBLE ON MY CHEEK HELD MY HAND, AND PUT HIS ARM AROUND ME, I COULD BARELY FUNCTION.  IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME TO TAKE A WHIFF.  :bigsmile 

You see, she had stopped breathing by this point. :lol

That is true. I was with her! :roflmao

I did detect a fresh scent emitting from his royal hottness when we took our pic! :blush


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 09, 2008, 07:20:40 PM
JULES--TO BE HONEST, WHEN HE PUT HIS STUBBLE ON MY CHEEK HELD MY HAND, AND PUT HIS ARM AROUND ME, I COULD BARELY FUNCTION.  IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME TO TAKE A WHIFF.  :bigsmile 

You see, she had stopped breathing by this point. :lol

That is true. I was with her! :roflmao

I did detect a fresh scent emitting from his royal hottness when we took our pic! :blush

I wonder if he noticed how you guys smelled after waiting for so long in the heat! 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: PHILLYLUVSCLAY on July 09, 2008, 07:23:10 PM
JULES--TO BE HONEST, WHEN HE PUT HIS STUBBLE ON MY CHEEK HELD MY HAND, AND PUT HIS ARM AROUND ME, I COULD BARELY FUNCTION.  IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME TO TAKE A WHIFF.  :bigsmile 

You see, she had stopped breathing by this point. :lol

That is true. I was with her! :roflmao

I did detect a fresh scent emitting from his royal hottness when we took our pic! :blush

I wonder if he noticed how you guys smelled after waiting for so long in the heat! 

I wondered about that myself.  Well, at least my make-up was on right! :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lucrezianoine on July 09, 2008, 07:24:00 PM
JULES--TO BE HONEST, WHEN HE PUT HIS STUBBLE ON MY CHEEK HELD MY HAND, AND PUT HIS ARM AROUND ME, I COULD BARELY FUNCTION.  IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME TO TAKE A WHIFF.  :bigsmile 

You see, she had stopped breathing by this point. :lol

That is true. I was with her! :roflmao

I did detect a fresh scent emitting from his royal hottness when we took our pic! :blush

I wonder if he noticed how you guys smelled after waiting for so long in the heat! 

 :rofl  OMG thanks for the posts.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 09, 2008, 07:25:25 PM
JULES--TO BE HONEST, WHEN HE PUT HIS STUBBLE ON MY CHEEK HELD MY HAND, AND PUT HIS ARM AROUND ME, I COULD BARELY FUNCTION.  IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME TO TAKE A WHIFF.  :bigsmile 

You see, she had stopped breathing by this point. :lol

That is true. I was with her! :roflmao

I did detect a fresh scent emitting from his royal hottness when we took our pic! :blush

I wonder if he noticed how you guys smelled after waiting for so long in the heat! 

I wondered about that myself.  Well, at least my make-up was on right! :lol

Surely, he was so swept away by your beauty that he forgot to breathe, too. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 09, 2008, 07:37:35 PM
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JULES--TO BE HONEST, WHEN HE PUT HIS STUBBLE ON MY CHEEK HELD MY HAND, AND PUT HIS ARM AROUND ME, I COULD BARELY FUNCTION.  IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME TO TAKE A WHIFF.    MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE CAN ANSWER.

Holy moley, GWENN!  That was the most titillating description of a M&G I've ever heard!!!!  :lol 

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BWAH!  I'd love to be with Clay in a phone booth and ring his bell...and then he could ring mine.   


JILL,  :lmao.  I can certainly tell we are in the midst of a Clay drought.  We are a very needy bunch full of all sorts of fantasies!!!  :blush :bigsmile





Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayfannj on July 09, 2008, 07:51:16 PM
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I did detect a fresh scent emitting from his royal hottness when we took our pic!



Philly,from WHERE????!!!

Could you furnish us with the EXACT COORDINATES of said location??? :bigsmile


At my M&G when we got to the pt of him with his arm around me, the only thing I remember sniffing was SMELLING SALTS...... :para


sorry...... :blush








Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 09, 2008, 07:52:18 PM
It was so romantic and euphoric when Clay hugged me. I  had just finished asking him if he had an issue with my cockroaches.  For some reason I forgot to sniff. I can honestly say he did NOT smell sweaty or bad or anything. I usually have a great sense of smell

But the TOUCH- oh my-I remember paying close attention to where my hand was. And I also remember that as he prepared to take his hand from my back, he sort of gave a little rub- I like to think of it as a caress

and Sunny- my hand was behaving itself, unfortunately (or fortunately since Jerome was never far away)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 09, 2008, 07:54:07 PM
It was so romantic and euphoric when Clay hugged me. I  had just finished asking him if he had an issue with my cockroaches. 

You romantic devil, you. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: PHILLYLUVSCLAY on July 09, 2008, 07:55:58 PM
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I did detect a fresh scent emitting from his royal hottness when we took our pic!



Philly,from WHERE????!!!

Could you furnish us with the EXACT COORDINATES of said location??? :bigsmile


At my M&G when we got to the pt of him with his arm around me, the only thing I remember sniffing was SMELLING SALTS...... :para


sorry...... :blush








Well,  we were awful close to one another and when he put his cheek against mine, that's when I smelled his essense surging forth... :blush


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 09, 2008, 07:58:31 PM
and which of the many hugs would that be marilyn?  I'm confused.  :scratch   :lol


His essence surged forth Philly?  (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/emoties/Hot/thhot.gif)  Yipes!


(ETA to add little laughing guy)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 09, 2008, 08:20:01 PM
and which of the many hugs would that be marilyn?  I'm confused.  :scratch   :lol


Only one full bodied hug, but he had his arms around me a couple or three times.........the poor man just could not help himself, I am so irresistable!!


HEY!! what happened to my NOSE???? eeeeeeeeeeeek


and in this avi picture, his hair got hung up on my eyelashes- yes, it was VERY romantic!!  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 09, 2008, 08:31:56 PM
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and in this avi picture, his hair got hung up on my eyelashes

You poor dear. It must have been awful for you! :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 09, 2008, 08:38:32 PM
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and in this avi picture, his hair got hung up on my eyelashes

You poor dear. It must have been awful for you! :lol

Man!  I hate it when that happens.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 09, 2008, 08:40:48 PM
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and in this avi picture, his hair got hung up on my eyelashes

You poor dear. It must have been awful for you! :lol

Yes, it was unfortunate.........that they became disentangled so quickly, that is!!!

And THIS time I paid particular attention to the way his cheek felt- warm, a little stubbly........I knew that something like that would never happen again-unless I dreamed about it!

On a more serious note- I read the UNICEF field notes several times. Clay is so very eloquent, and he describes things so well that I had tears in my eyes thinking about all those little children who wouldnt make it- about where will new doctors come from.  I actually had a discussion with one of my new office mates. David was flabbergasted when I told him the statistics. Its so hard to believe but sadly it will be hard to help those poor people without a system of government in place to help organize the country and take care of its people.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 09, 2008, 09:37:11 PM
I didn't sniff Clay either. I was way too worried about invading his personal space. He put his arm around me and pulled me closer though. Then I went to walk away after and he had shut his eyes (Jamie told him!), so darn it ... I had to do it all over again!  :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 09, 2008, 10:25:07 PM
I didn't sniff Clay either. I was way too worried about invading his personal space. He put his arm around me and pulled me closer though. Then I went to walk away after and he had shut his eyes (Jamie told him!), so darn it ... I had to do it all over again!  :slick

I swear, the things we have to suffer through, huh?? :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 10, 2008, 03:46:13 AM
I didn't sniff Clay either. I was way too worried about invading his personal space. He put his arm around me and pulled me closer though. Then I went to walk away after and he had shut his eyes (Jamie told him!), so darn it ... I had to do it all over again!  :slick

I swear, the things we have to suffer through, huh?? :lol



Ummmm......I wouldn't know.


Am I jealous?  Hell, yeah!   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 10, 2008, 04:42:08 AM
Jules -  I was the first member of this Board to win a Meet and Greet (JukeBox Tour - Atlanta). Other Members "helped" me by giving me a list of things to remember during my M&G - one of those was to smell Clay (which tells you the mind set of the people here!  :para :lmao ). As I posted in my M&G recap (you can still read it in the JukeBox Tour Archives, along with recaps of other Meet and Greets) there was no hint of after shave or cologne - he just smelled like a clean, healthy man - and his face was very warm when he put it against mine.   :thud


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 10, 2008, 05:22:22 AM
LADIES---IS IT WARM IN HERE OR IS IT THESE M&G RECAPS????????  THIS MAN CAN BRING OUT THE BEST IN ALL OF US.  OR THE WORST. :blush

HERE'S HOPING FOR SOME MORE FIELD NOTES.  I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THEM.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 05:27:15 AM


                                 WELL I MISSED THE PARTY LAST NIGHT :para I DOUBT IF I WOULD THINK TO SMELL HIM. REMEMBER ON THE VIEW YEARS AGO SOMEBODY WAS ASK TO SMELL HIM. :roflmaoTHEY SAID HE SMELLED FRESH.

                               OF COURSE IF I EVER GET TO MEET HIM I WOULD HAVE TO CONCENTRATE ON THE FACE AND THEN THE PANTS OF PERFECTION, DON'T YA KNOW. :lol

                                     WHEN I TOUCHED HIS TUMMY YEARS AGO I DID NOT GET A WHIFF.

                                       SUNNY, I LOVE THE PHONE BOOTH IDEA, :blush

                                        I LOVE SMUTTY CLAYMANIACS. :clap


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 10, 2008, 05:31:33 AM

                                 I DOUBT IF I WOULD THINK TO SMELL HIM.
I think that's probably for the best, Glory. It's considered rude in some cultures to go around sniffing people. :wink


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                                       SUNNY, I LOVE THE PHONE BOOTH IDEA, :blush
Great! Now, if you can convince Clay to go along with it, I'll buy a ticket to the first show! :lol
                                    


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 10, 2008, 05:40:07 AM
how is everyone


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 05:52:04 AM


                                   SUNNY CAN YOU IMAGINE BEING IN A PHONE BOOTH WITH HIM YOU WOULD NOT EVEN HAVE TO TRY TO SMELL HIM BECAUSE HE WOULD BE RIGHT THERE IN YOUR FACE. BROUGHT TO YOU BY SMUTTERS ARE US  :blush :lol

                             YOU ALL NEED TO RUN OVER TO CH AND READ JEMOCK'S POST.TALK ABOUT SMUT IT IS SO FUNNY.



                                         

                                   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 10, 2008, 06:17:17 AM
GLORY---I SAW THAT POST FROM JEMOCK.  THAT WOMAN IS JUST THE FUNNIEST.  SHE SHOULD WRITE FOR A COMEDIAN.  I WAS GONNA BRING IT HERE, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF OUR MODS WOULD MIND.   :blush  THE BEST.

SUNNY IS FIRST FOR THE PHONE BOOTH.   :clap :clap :clap

IT ISN'T HUMID TODAY!!!!! :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 10, 2008, 06:22:53 AM
SUNNY IS FIRST FOR THE PHONE BOOTH.   :clap :clap :clap

Yahooeeee. :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 10, 2008, 06:28:37 AM
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SUNNY IS FIRST FOR THE PHONE BOOTH.
     

Hopefully the phone booth is air conditioned; otherwise you can count me out because it still is very hot and humid out here in Illinois.  :fan2

Ladies, I believe we have taken a very important step back in the past 24 hours.  :clap :  And IMO it was long overdue!!!!!  :slick   Now carry on with the business of the day............let us all smut to our hearts' content!!!!  :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 10, 2008, 06:34:09 AM
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Ladies, I believe we have taken a very important step back in the past 24 hours.    And IMO it was long overdue!!!!!   Now carry on with the business of the day............smutting!!!!

THANK YOU, THEA FOR REMINDING US OF WHAT IS IMPORTANT.   :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile

ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE, I REREAD THE FIELD NOTES.  I ALSO CHECKED SOME OF THE COMMENTS.  INTERESTING THAT THE UNICEF FOLKS MUST BE READING THE COMMENTS BECAUSE SOMEONE ASKED IF THERE WOULD BE A SEPARATE PAGE FOR DONATING LIKE IN THE PAST.  YOU KNOW, THE $100,000 CHALLENGE.  ANYWAY, THE GUY SAID NO.  JUST DONATE AT THE GIVEN LINK WHICH IS LABELED SOMALIA.  EITHER CLAY DOESN'T THINK WE CAN MAKE THE MARK OR UNICEF DOESN'T.  THAT IN ITSELF FEELS KIND OF WEIRD.  ANYWAY, STOP ON OVER AND LEAVE A COMMENT IF YOU ARE SO INCLINED.

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A reader named Ann asked, "Is there a UNICEF fund in Clay's name where I can donate?"

The best place for you to donate is www.unicefusa.org/donate/somalia, where we are collecting donations related to this specific appeal.

Thanks so much for your support!

Posted by Frank Susa, UNICEF USA

BACK TO SMUTTING.  I PERSONALLY WANT TO GET MY HANDS AROUND THOSE SHOULDERS.  WHEW.  THE POSSIBILITIES. :wow

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 06:43:07 AM


                                HECK WITH SHOULDERS GWENN I WANT MY HANDS ALL OVER HIS BOD. :blush I WANT TO GIVE HIM A MASSAGE OH THAT WAS POST SPAMALOT,I FORGOT. :lol 

                             MAYBE CLAY IS REALLY UPSET WITH FANS, SOMETHING GOING ON WISH I COULD PUT MY FIGURE ON IT.I HOPE I AM WRONG JUST A GUT REACTION TO ALL THE CRAP HE HAS DEALTH WITH.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 10, 2008, 07:14:49 AM
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MAYBE CLAY IS REALLY UPSET WITH FANS, SOMETHING GOING ON WISH I COULD PUT MY FIGURE ON IT.I HOPE I AM WRONG JUST A GUT REACTION TO ALL THE CRAP HE HAS DEALTH WITH.

GLORY---I AGREE.  THIS SILENCE IS JUST BEYOND SCARY.  NOT EVEN A PLEA FOR MONEY ON THE OFC.  NO $100,000 CHALLENGE.  I GUESS HE IS REALLY PISSED.  OR SOMETHING.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 10, 2008, 07:30:20 AM
UNICEF has said that there will be more than one Field Notes post. I agree that the silence has gone on too long. Hope he will at least post a "Hello" soon. I think fans at least deserve that, even if he is mad or hurt - not all fans posted things that would have hurt him.  I know he is busy, but he doesn't move without that phone - and we all know he can Blog from it.

Have a great day, everybody - I am spending my day with granddaughters - ages 9 and 5 - I will check in this evening. In the past, when I have been gone from the computer, Clay has usually shown up - maybe that will happen for all of you today!  :bouncy


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 10, 2008, 07:46:57 AM
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I agree that the silence has gone on too long. Hope he will at least post a "Hello" soon. I think fans at least deserve that, even if he is mad or hurt - not all fans posted things that would have hurt him.  I know he is busy, but he doesn't move without that phone - and we all know he can Blog from it.



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GLORY---I AGREE.  THIS SILENCE IS JUST BEYOND SCARY.  NOT EVEN A PLEA FOR MONEY ON THE OFC.  NO $100,000 CHALLENGE.  I GUESS HE IS REALLY PISSED.  OR SOMETHING.

I agree about the silence having gone on way too long.  No tomatoes please, but how does Clay expect to maintain a large fanbase if he refuses to communicate with us either by blogs or promises of tours?  I plan to hang around because for me my Clay Aiken fandom also includes valuable friendships, but some without that emotional connection might start thinking about going where the grass is greener, so to speak.

I don't appreciate the concept of being "punished" because he is angry with some people.   All right, have at it.  :para :slap


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 08:01:08 AM


                              THEA I WAS SPEAKING OF THE NASTY POSTS AT OFC WHEN THE ALLEGED NEWS BROKE..

                           I REALLY THINK HE IS STABBING THE HANDS THAT FEED HIM. WE HAVE STUCK BY HIM THROUGH THICK AND THIN.SOME MIGHT HAVE BAILED OUT, CAUSE THEY COULD NOT TAKE ANYMORE CRAP.I THINK HIS FANBASE HAS DWINDLED AND THE LACK PF COMMUNICATION HAS NOTT OR WILL NOT HELP. JMHO.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: paclayfan on July 10, 2008, 08:04:12 AM
Out of Lurkdom....

    I, too, think Clay should have made some kind of communication with the fans by now. He has a right to privacy, but he shouldn't be surprised if he alienates people. He should realize by now that a short blog would go a long way in the fan club. Like Gwenn said, we're thrilled with a crumb. 

 I think he may lose fans because of the way he handles things (especially the fan club) . I only joined the OFC for one year because I thought it was a waste of money. I was hoping to get a M&G, but that never happened. The main reason I didn't rejoin is that many of the posters are so mean to each other.  Somebody on Team Clay needs to revamp the whole fan club. It sounds like it's a real mess now.

   As far as the Unicef appeal, I think it's great he didn't ask us directly for the money. After the last few months, many people would be offended (even though it's a good cause) that the only time he made an effort to communicate with his fans is to ask for money.  He is not putting us under the pressure to raise a certain amount. People who want to, or can give, will.

   I'm proud of the work he is doing for Unicef, and I'm staying a fan, but I definitely see him a little differently right now.

Deanna


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 10, 2008, 08:05:31 AM
I agree with you ladies,  I think I said this in a past post...but  I had the feeling months ago that something is up.  The silence is intended. Why?  I don't know.  Big changes coming...just a gut feeling.  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 10, 2008, 08:23:40 AM
It has always looked to me like Clay is conflicted about his fans.  It's a real love/hate relationship.  The way he "handles" us vacillates between love and disdain, so the way we respond is the same. 

It's unclear where his head is at regarding us most of the time--very confusing.  And so we are left to our own interpretations and speculations, which usually are more harsh than the truth.  If he'd just be clear about things we wouldn't have to think about them so much, and we all know how dangerous it is when we think!!!!


Clay is gonna have to learn to juggle his career and his family the way we all had to do it.

All he has to do is throw us a bone, so to speak.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 10, 2008, 08:27:23 AM
I LOVE HOW WE CAN ALL SHARE OUR CONCERNS AND NOT GET OFFENDED.  THIS IS A SPECIAL PLACE.  I WISH CLAY WOULD COME HERE TO READ AND NOT OVER AT THE STUPID OFC.

I THINK WE ARE ALL MISSING THE CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WE HAD WITH HIM FOR THE PAST 5 YEARS.  EVEN DURING THE CRAP OF 2006 WE HEARD A FEW TIMES.  NOT A LOT, BUT SOMETHING.  EVEN A 2 WORD BLOG---I'M  WELL----WOULD BE BLISSFUL.  THERE IS SOME REASON HE ISN'T.  I DON'T KNOW WHY.

I JUST CANNOT FATHOM HIM LEAVING A CAREER.  IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.  HE SURE DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THAT DURING MAY.

I COULD JUST BITCH SLAP THAT A**HOLE HARVEY WHATEVER AT TMZ.  I COULD JUST KNOCK HIM SILLY FOR ALL OF THIS.  HE STOLE PRIVATE TIME FOR CLAY AND RUINED THINGS FOR US. 

SORRY FOR THE RANT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 10, 2008, 09:05:51 AM
I say we send harvey a bitch slap email


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 10, 2008, 09:17:24 AM
I don't buy into the idea that he's angry with us. :shrug

For one thing, I don't think he sees The Fans as one being. He knows there are thousands of us, some calm, some "enthusiastic," and a few wackos. So, I don't think he believes that the negative posts about "Baby Jaymes" speak for all of us. He's not narrow-minded like that.

Second, he gave of himself continuously for, what, 8 months? He probably wants--and needs--time to recharge. He needs to do what he wants to do--see his friends, hang out, have fun--without having to give attention to the "celebrity" side of his life.

Would it be easy to blog? Yeah, but I don't think he likes to. For whatever reason. He probably IM's and texts and emails his friends nonstop. But I don't think he likes to do that OFC blog. Will he lose fans over it? I don't know. If fans want to be lost over it, okay. He doesn't appear to be worried about that right now.



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 09:43:26 AM



                                      PEOPLE ARE GETTING E-MAILS FROM CLAY SOMEONE WANT TO SEND ME ONE TO. :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 10, 2008, 09:44:19 AM
I DECIDED TO BRAVE THE WATERS AND CHECK OUT THE OFC.  HAVEN'T BEEN THERE SINCE CLAY'S POST ON MAY 7.

SOME FOLKS ARE FRETTING LIKE WE ARE.  IT DOESN'T SOUND QUITE AS BAD AS IT DID BEFORE.  THERE IS ACTUALLY A THREAD IN THE MAN THAT IS GOOD. (WHERE i DRAW THE LINE)  I WROTE A POST.  I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE CONTENT AND THE WAY PEOPLE WERE RESPECTING EACH OTHER.  IN THAT THREAD SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING THAT MAY BE RIGHT.  MAYBE A CHALLENGE WASN'T GIVEN THIS TIME BECAUSE SOME FOLKS WOULD SAY---OH, HE ONLY BLOGS WHEN HE WANTS SOMETHING.  MAYBE HE ISN'T SAYING ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THAT OR IF HE DOESN'T ADDRESS THE BABY RUMOR, NO ONE WILL BE HAPPY.  SO, HE IS JUST LETTING IT GO AND LIVING HIS LIFE.  GIVES ME FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 10, 2008, 09:55:48 AM
GLORY--PEOPLE ARE GETTING PERSONALIZED EMAILS FROM CLAY/UNICEF.  I DIDN'T GET ONE AND I AM ANNOYED.  I ALREADY DONATED BUT I WANT MINE.  DARN.

ANYWAY, SOME NEW PIX.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/macmom66/12715.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/macmom66/12716.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/rebymac/12719.jpg

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 10, 2008, 10:14:09 AM
Great pics, too bad they're so tiny.

Clay looks exceptionally happy in all of those Somalia pics, so why isn't he more excited about it now that he's back?  I'm not even getting the impression that there will be any coverage by ET or GMA.  Guess he wants to keep a really low profile between now and August.

I think subliminally he is trying to stir up donations by trying to stir up our "outrage", but that's as much as he can do right now without getting himself back into the media spotlight.  And that is a double edged sword because when you get exposure for your cause you also get references to other stories that they are following.  (ie "Daddy to be Clay Aiken"-type intros)

It's true.  If he blogged on the OFC with only a plea for money people would be really PO'd.




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 10, 2008, 10:15:02 AM
Gwenn - you have to sign up for the UNICEF newsletters! Donating is not enough (and you do not have to donate to sign up for the newsletters).  I just popped back on to make sure that everyone was getting theirs - New Photos!!!!!  :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana

EDIT - The Newsletter is a plea for money for Somolia - maybe that will bother some people - not me, though - we are all free to donate if we so choose. I think some fans are confused right now, because Clay has said several times that we are "family". Some people may have taken that literally. We are not, of course, family, even though we worry about Clay as though he was a family member. I would not expect Clay to Blog about his personal life - but a "Hello I am resting and having a good summer" would be nice.

Back to the granddaughters. Going to son's house to let them swim and to get Kaitlyn to dance lessons this evening - will be there until Son and DIL get home from their trip tomorrow.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 10:21:01 AM


                                 I REALLY WOULD NOT BLAME PEOPLE FOR BIENG PISSED OFF.JMHO.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 10, 2008, 10:23:55 AM
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SOME FOLKS ARE FRETTING LIKE WE ARE.

I'm not fretting.  There may be changes in the works but that doesn't mean they will be bad.  Maybe he is negotiating a new recording contract.  I'm sure there's alot of business being done right now.  Perhaps he is reading scripts in his lounge chair in the backyard!  He's entitled to time off.  I just think he could do alot to help his own cause with just a few simple words and I'm baffled as to why he isn't doing it.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 10, 2008, 10:28:10 AM
Just got my UNICEF letter.   (I hope you get yours soon, as well, GWENN!)  I do believe that UNICEF is careful with how it spends it's donations, so I will definitely be throwing some $$$ their way.

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It has always looked to me like Clay is conflicted about his fans.  It's a real love/hate relationship.  The way he "handles" us vacillates between love and distain, so the way we respond is the same.  

It's unclear where his head is at regarding us most of the time--very confusing.  And so we are left to our own interpretations and speculations, which usually are more harsh than the truth.  If he'd just be clear about things we wouldn't have to think about them so much, and we all know how dangerous it is when we think!!!!


Clay is gonna have to learn to juggle his career and his family the way we all had to do it.

All he has to do is throw us a bone, so to speak.

 :word FRANNIE!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 10, 2008, 10:38:14 AM
I agree with Mimi that he is not mad at us, and he deserves this time off for his personal life. IIT I believe he is about to be a father - a HUGE step for him. And yes I get that something else is up too.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 10, 2008, 11:14:10 AM

It has always looked to me like Clay is conflicted about his fans.  It's a real love/hate relationship.  The way he "handles" us vacillates between love and distain, so the way we respond is the same. 

It's unclear where his head is at regarding us most of the time--very confusing.  And so we are left to our own interpretations and speculations, which usually are more harsh than the truth.  If he'd just be clear about things we wouldn't have to think about them so much, and we all know how dangerous it is when we think!!!!


SOAPBOX TIME

I STRONGLY STRONGLY DISAGREE THAT CLAY TREATS HIS FANS WITH DISDAIN. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE TO THAT EFFECT.  HOW MANY WAYS CAN HE SHOW US HE CARES? HE SAID IF IT WASNT FOR HIS FANS HE WOULDNT BE HERE, AND THANKED THEM AT THE END OF  EVERY SINGLE SHRP CONCERT, HE INCLUDED FANS IN HIS CHRISTMAS TOUR. DURING THE SUMMER HE SHOOK OR TOUCHED HANDS OF FANS IN EVERY VENUE HE WAS ABLE TO (AND I MIGHT ADD THAT HE TOOK RISKS DOING THAT SEEING AS HOW ALLERGIC HE IS ON CONTACT WITH TREE NUTS) HE DEFENDS US AS ENTHUSIASTIC. HE DEDICATED HIS ALBUM SOLELY TO US. ALMOST EVERY NIGHT IN SPAMALOT HE CAME OUT TO SIGN AUTOGRAPHS AND CHAT WITH THE FANS. HE EVEN CAME TO WORK WHEN HE WAS IN PAIN, BECAUSE HANNAH HAD ALSO CALLED IN. HIS WORK ETHIC IS AMAZING
EVEN THE BLOG ABOUT THE CD (A LITTLE RANT WITH A LOT OF LOVE) WAS SIGNED "I REMAIN YOURS".

HE SAID MANY TIMES IN INTERVIEWS THAT HE WAS GOING TO TAKE THE SUMMER OFF. HE NEVER MENTIONED THAT HE WOULD STILL BE IN CONTACT WITH THE FANS.  HE DID A BRIEF PROMO BIT FOR A WEEK AND A HALF, AND HE WENT TO SOMALIA. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE HAS RETURNED TO THE U.S. YET TO BEGIN HIS "VACATION".
IT IS IRRELEVANT TO ME WHAT IS HAPPENING IN HIS PRIVATE LIFE.  TO ME, THIS IS NOT SILENCE, THIS IS CLAY DOING WHAT HE TOLD EVERYONE THAT LISTENED THAT HE WAS GOING TO DO. TAKE TIME OFF. THAT MEANS......TIME OFF FROM EVERYTHING. WHETHER THIS IS BENEFICIAL TO HIS CAREER OR NOT, THIS IS WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO.
I KNOW THAT CLAY IS NOT PERFECT, I KNOW HE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES HOW SOME FANS TEXTED DURING SHOWS, OR MADE OTHER COMPLAINTS- BUT!! HE DID NOT SAY ALL FANS- AND HE WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!! I SAT BEHIND SOME OF THESE SO CALLED FANS AND WATCHED THEM DO EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID. 

I JUST DO NOT SEE HOW WE CAN CLASSIFY THIS AS SILENCE WHEN HE TOLD US EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS DOING, AND WE ARE SEEING THAT HE IS OCCUPIED WITH THE OTHER PART OF HIS LIFE THAT IS FULFILLING TO HIM.

I DO NOT MEAN TO OFFEND WITH MY POST, BUT THE WORD "DISDAIN" WHEN IT WAS MENTIONED IN REFERENCE TO CLAYS REACTION TO HIS FANS, JUST DID NOT COMPUTE WITH ME.

OFF MY SOAPBOX AND BACK TO WORK...........


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 10, 2008, 11:15:45 AM
I don't buy into the idea that he's angry with us. :shrug

For one thing, I don't think he sees The Fans as one being. He knows there are thousands of us, some calm, some "enthusiastic," and a few wackos. So, I don't think he believes that the negative posts about "Baby Jaymes" speak for all of us. He's not narrow-minded like that.

Second, he gave of himself continuously for, what, 8 months? He probably wants--and needs--time to recharge. He needs to do what he wants to do--see his friends, hang out, have fun--without having to give attention to the "celebrity" side of his life.

Would it be easy to blog? Yeah, but I don't think he likes to. For whatever reason. He probably IM's and texts and emails his friends nonstop. But I don't think he likes to do that OFC blog. Will he lose fans over it? I don't know. If fans want to be lost over it, okay. He doesn't appear to be worried about that right now.



THANK YOU SUNNY- THIS IS WHAT I SEE, TOO.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 10, 2008, 11:16:12 AM
I have really enjoyed the discussions~

It seems to me everytime we try and second guess Clay's decisions that it always turns out all right, so I'm trying not to do that this time around. Remember how a lot of fans speculated (not to long ago )about his decision to do Spamalot ,and about how unwise it would be for his career...well that one sure worked out just fine.

I think OMC is a stubborn person ,and when he says he's taking the summer off,I believe he will indeed take the summer off (there's only 7 more weeks to go). Then in Oct we have the Gala...so we may have to keep each other amused until then ,of course there is the possibility of some news in Aug.(maybe)

We won't all agree on how he should handle things, but we will all agree that we want whats best for him, and its quite apparent he is doing what he thinks is best right now..and non of us know what that is, only he does.

I would love to know what goes through that handsome head of his... but I don't ,and I won't, but I'll sure be waiting whatever  he decides to come up with next. There's always a lot of excitment and mystery in that, so bring it on I'm game for anything  :bigsmile

Marlene~


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: NCSandhillsDeb on July 10, 2008, 11:17:30 AM
Marilyn!!!!!!   :clap

Debbie


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 10, 2008, 11:30:25 AM
Clay is human just like the rest of us.  Yes, he is even capable of treating his fans with "disdain "at times.  Call it abruptness, call it slightly rude, but IMHO he has not always treated his fans with the utmost of respect.  What some have labeled "snarkiness" has been interpreted by others as "rudeness".   He has demonstrated all of that on occasion.  He is not perfect and I among others don't expect him to be.

  On the other side of the coin Clay is capable of treating us with an enormous outpouring of love, respect and gratitude. He has demonstrated this over and over again in the instances cited by MARILYN.   Again, he is human,, and his behavior and emotions run the gamut.  I, for one ,am not expecting him to behave perfectly all of the time.  He is just a man, not  God.  And I reserve the right to  love and appreciate him with all of his imperfections!  :wink





Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 10, 2008, 11:32:34 AM
Marilyn & Sunny..You go girls!!! :yeahthat   :yes

Marlene~


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ILClaymate on July 10, 2008, 11:46:47 AM



                                      PEOPLE ARE GETTING E-MAILS FROM CLAY SOMEONE WANT TO SEND ME ONE TO. :para

You can see the email in its entirety on our HOME PAGE (http://www.claymaniacs.com/forums/index.php).


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 10, 2008, 11:55:43 AM
Clandy, there is another picture at CH (page 9)I tried to bring the link over but it didn't work.    HELP!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ILClaymate on July 10, 2008, 12:04:17 PM
Mimi - Gwenn posted them all here I believe on the previous page.  I fixed your link in the BLP.


ANYWAY, SOME NEW PIX.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/macmom66/12715.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/macmom66/12716.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/rebymac/12719.jpg

GWENN



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 12:05:11 PM


                                     IN THE END ALL THAT REALLY MATTERS IS THAT WE LOVE HIM AND SUPPORT HIM. HE IS ONE SPECIAL GUY I ADMIRE AND I LOVE TO BITS. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 10, 2008, 12:09:04 PM
Some bits more than others. :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 10, 2008, 12:10:54 PM
Clay is human just like the rest of us.  Yes, he is even capable of treating his fans with "disdain "at times.  Call it abruptness, call it slightly rude, but IMHO he has not always treated his fans with the utmost of respect.  What some have labeled "snarkiness" has been interpreted by others as "rudeness".   He has demonstrated all of that on occasion.  He is not perfect and I among others don't expect him to be.

  On the other side of the coin Clay is capable of treating us with an enormous outpouring of love, respect and gratitude. He has demonstrated this over and over again in the instances cited by MARILYN.   Again, he is human,, and his behavior and emotions run the gamut.  I, for one ,am not expecting him to behave perfectly all of the time.  He is just a man, not  God.  And I reserve the right to  love and appreciate him with all of his imperfections!  :wink

THEA, I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT YOU SAID. PERHAPS IT WAS THE WORD "DISDAIN"  THAT WAS USED WHICH IN THE THESAURUS  LIST THE WORD AS MEANING : SCORN,  CONTEMPT,  DERISION,  DISREGARD  OR DISPARAGEMENT WHICH I DO NOT AGREE WITH.
HOWEVER, I AGREE THAT HIS SNARKINESS CAN BE SLIGHTLY RUDE, HE CAN CERTAINLY BE ABRUPT- AND AGAIN, I AGREE THAT HE IS NOT PERFECT. NO ONE IS. HE MAKES MISTAKES, AND HE REACTS TOO QUICKLY SOMETIMES, AND HIS MOUTH AND ACTIONS GET HIM IN TROUBLE.

AND I KNOW THAT EVERYONE HERE HAS STRONG FEELINGS FOR CLAY, OTHERWISE THEY WOULDNT BE HERE. I JUST DONT SEE THAT HE IS IGNORING THE FANS AS MUCH AS JUST DOING WHAT HE SAID HE WOULD DO. AS TO THE RUMORS, HE NEVER ADDRESSED THEM BEFORE SO WHY SHOULD HE NOW? AND THIS TIME, IT INVOLVES PEOPLE OTHER THAN HIMSELF, SO PERHAPS HE IS BEING RETICENT TO PROTECT THEM.

THINGS MAY BE CHANGING- IF ITS TRUE, AND HE IS GOING TO BE A FAMILY MAN-THAT IS EXTREMELY LIFE CHANGING FOR EVEN A NON CELEBRITY, SO YES, THAT WOULD MAKE THINGS DIFFERENT. I JUST DONT SEE THAT CLAY WILL BE GOING AWAY FROM HIS CAREER AT ALL. IT JUST DOES NOT ADD UP.
 I REALLY NEED TO WORK!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 10, 2008, 12:11:04 PM
THANKS CLANDY!

I'm in bad need of followup, Computor 101, with Pamela.    :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 10, 2008, 12:11:54 PM
Some bits more than others. :slick

NOW, THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, BUT I WOULD HARDLY CALL IT "BITS"


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 10, 2008, 12:15:04 PM
MARILYN, well-written response....and thank you!  :hugg

And here are the continuing adventures of Amy Winehouse.  She has now been charged with attacking her own bodyguard.  Jerome, look out!  Clay may be gunning for you, too!!!  :lol
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20211591,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 12:21:05 PM



                                        IF CLAY JUMPED JEROME HE WOULD BE IN BITS AND PEICES. :lol :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 10, 2008, 12:25:53 PM


                                     IN THE END ALL THAT REALLY MATTERS IS THAT WE LOVE HIM AND SUPPORT HIM. HE IS ONE SPECIAL GUY I ADMIRE AND I LOVE TO BITS. :hugg

it's about time someone says something postive and i don't think clay would jump jerome


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 10, 2008, 12:26:28 PM
You know, when you consider reports of Amy Winehouse, or Christie Brinkley's divorce hearings...

we can be glad Clay's not in the news lately!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 10, 2008, 12:34:55 PM
MARILYN--YOU ARE RIGHT ON MANY, MANY LEVELS.  IF WE DIDN'T ADORE THIS MAN, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE.  I AIN'T GOING ANYPLACE FAST.

I DO BELIEVE SPAMALOT SPOILED US.  I ADMIT THAT.  AND I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHY ANYONE WOULD USE THE WORD DISDAIN.  I GUESS I MISSED THAT.  I STILL BELIEVE THAT MISSING HIM AND NOT HAVING ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR TO LOOK FORWARD TO IS MAKING SOME PEOPLE TESTY.  I COULD SMUT HERE, BUT I WILL BE GOOD. :blush

AND I KNOW FOR SURE SOME OF THE BITS I LOVE.  AND, MARILYM THEY AIN'T LITTLE.   :blush

CLAY LOOKS DARN HAPPY TO ME IN THOSE PHOTOS.  THAT FEELS GOOD.  ACTUALLY, SEEING THE PIX AND READING THE UNICEF BLOG IS JUST FINE WITH ME.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 10, 2008, 12:35:19 PM
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it's about time someone says something postive and i don't think clay would jump jerome

CLAYAIKENISHOT!  We like to use subtle humor here on Critical Mass.  A lot of our posts are tongue-in-cheek.  You are taking our comments far too seriously!

We have remained VERY POSITIVE throughout our discussions these past few weeks!  Fear not!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 10, 2008, 12:37:11 PM
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You know, when you consider reports of Amy Winehouse, or Christie Brinkley's divorce hearings...

we can be glad Clay's not in the news lately!

Yup!  :thumb


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 10, 2008, 12:38:24 PM
oh srry :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 10, 2008, 12:39:08 PM

SOAPBOX TIME

I STRONGLY STRONGLY DISAGREE THAT CLAY TREATS HIS FANS WITH DISDAIN. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE TO THAT EFFECT.  HOW MANY WAYS CAN HE SHOW US HE CARES? HE SAID IF IT WASNT FOR HIS FANS HE WOULDNT BE HERE, AND THANKED THEM AT THE END OF  EVERY SINGLE SHRP CONCERT, HE INCLUDED FANS IN HIS CHRISTMAS TOUR. DURING THE SUMMER HE SHOOK OR TOUCHED HANDS OF FANS IN EVERY VENUE HE WAS ABLE TO (AND I MIGHT ADD THAT HE TOOK RISKS DOING THAT SEEING AS HOW ALLERGIC HE IS ON CONTACT WITH TREE NUTS) HE DEFENDS US AS ENTHUSIASTIC. HE DEDICATED HIS ALBUM SOLELY TO US. ALMOST EVERY NIGHT IN SPAMALOT HE CAME OUT TO SIGN AUTOGRAPHS AND CHAT WITH THE FANS. HE EVEN CAME TO WORK WHEN HE WAS IN PAIN, BECAUSE HANNAH HAD ALSO CALLED IN. HIS WORK ETHIC IS AMAZING
EVEN THE BLOG ABOUT THE CD (A LITTLE RANT WITH A LOT OF LOVE) WAS SIGNED "I REMAIN YOURS".

HE SAID MANY TIMES IN INTERVIEWS THAT HE WAS GOING TO TAKE THE SUMMER OFF. HE NEVER MENTIONED THAT HE WOULD STILL BE IN CONTACT WITH THE FANS.  HE DID A BRIEF PROMO BIT FOR A WEEK AND A HALF, AND HE WENT TO SOMALIA. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE HAS RETURNED TO THE U.S. YET TO BEGIN HIS "VACATION".
IT IS IRRELEVANT TO ME WHAT IS HAPPENING IN HIS PRIVATE LIFE.  TO ME, THIS IS NOT SILENCE, THIS IS CLAY DOING WHAT HE TOLD EVERYONE THAT LISTENED THAT HE WAS GOING TO DO. TAKE TIME OFF. THAT MEANS......TIME OFF FROM EVERYTHING. WHETHER THIS IS BENEFICIAL TO HIS CAREER OR NOT, THIS IS WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO.
I KNOW THAT CLAY IS NOT PERFECT, I KNOW HE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES HOW SOME FANS TEXTED DURING SHOWS, OR MADE OTHER COMPLAINTS- BUT!! HE DID NOT SAY ALL FANS- AND HE WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!! I SAT BEHIND SOME OF THESE SO CALLED FANS AND WATCHED THEM DO EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID. 

I JUST DO NOT SEE HOW WE CAN CLASSIFY THIS AS SILENCE WHEN HE TOLD US EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS DOING, AND WE ARE SEEING THAT HE IS OCCUPIED WITH THE OTHER PART OF HIS LIFE THAT IS FULFILLING TO HIM.

I DO NOT MEAN TO OFFEND WITH MY POST, BUT THE WORD "DISDAIN" WHEN IT WAS MENTIONED IN REFERENCE TO CLAYS REACTION TO HIS FANS, JUST DID NOT COMPUTE WITH ME.

OFF MY SOAPBOX AND BACK TO WORK...........


 :word   :clap


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 10, 2008, 12:41:19 PM
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oh srry


No problem, It's all good!   :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 10, 2008, 01:03:04 PM



 :word   :clap

 :hugg :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 01:06:08 PM


                        YEP, ALL GOOD EXCEPT I MISS HIM LIKE CRAZY I WILL LIVE THROUGH IT.REMEMBER THE LONG DROUGHTTTTTTTTTTTTTT. IF WE CAN LIVE THROUGH THAT WE CAN LIVE THROUGH ANYTHING. :hugg :hugg

                     I LOVE YOU ALL DEARLY. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 10, 2008, 01:10:21 PM
TOTALLY OFF TOPIC- SCROLL IF YOU WISH

I WENT TO THE EYE SURGEON TODAY (HAVE TO CHECK THEM BECAUSE OF DIABETES)
THE GOOD NEWS IS I DON'T NEED TO GET NEW GLASSES- THESE WILL SUFFICE.
THE BAD NEWS IS I HAVE CATARACTS IN BOTH EYES, WHICH IS WHY I HAVE BLURRY SPOTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE CENTER OF THE LEFT EYE. ANNOYING.

SO- HE SAID HE WOULD SEE ME NEXT YEAR UNLESS I DECIDED I WANTED TO TAKE CARE OF THE CATARACTS. THIS ALSO WOULD NOT PRECLUDE MY NEEDING GLASSES.....BUT HE CAN ALSO DO A LENS IMPLANT WHICH WOULD CURE THE ASTYGMATISM I HAVE IN BOTH EYES AND ALLOW ME TO GET RID OF THE GLASSES FOREVER.

HE DID SAY THAT A LOT OF INSURANCE COMPANIES WOULD NOT COVER THE SECOND PART BECAUSE THEY DONT CARE IF I NEED TO WEAR GLASSES OR NOT-ITS PURELY COSMETIC.

HE ALSO SAID THE RISK INCREASES THE OLDER THE AGE OF THE PERSON. AND THAT 99% OF THE SURGERIES GO OFF WITHOUT ANY RISK OR PROBLEMS. (YOU KNOW THAT I WOULD BE IN THE 1% GIVEN MY PAST HISTORY AND LUCK FACTOR)

SO I AM THINKING ABOUT IT. FIRST I WANT TO SEE WHAT INSURANCE COMPANY I END UP WITH HERE, THEN SEE IF THEY COVER THE 2ND PART. IF NOT, I WILL WEIGH THE COST OF THE SURGERY (DIFFERENTIAL) AGAINST BUYING GLASSES EVERY YEAR.

THATS IT.........I NEED CLEAR VISION TO PERUSE THE ASS..ETS OF ONE HAWT AMBASSADOR, RIGHT?

AND GWENN- WHY IN HE** ARE YOU REFRAINING FROM SMUTTING, WOMAN??  ITS THE SECOND BEST EXCERCISE IN THE WORLD!!
HMMMMMM...........WONDER WHAT THE FIRST IS???? :lol :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 10, 2008, 01:45:47 PM

I'm sorry if you don't agree with my use of the word disdain, but I stand behind it.  Clay is a man of many moods and his dealings with the fans have run the gamut of everything from effusive love to (yes) disdain IMO.  Doesn't mean that he feels that way all the time or about all of the fans, but some times about some of the fans.  Well after all, I think I disdain certain "fans" myself!  Don't you?  and I think certain "fans" deserve to be disdained.  So can you blame him if he did?

I fully acknowledge that Clay shows a lot of love at times to the fans.  I've felt it.  But to see him as literally unconditionally embracing us as a group all the time is not seeing him with open eyes.

That is all........just needed to defend my position.

And for the record I also do not agree that his silence is due to the fact that he is mad at the fans.  He knows there's backlash all the time about even small things so why wouldn't there be backlash now?  He knows to expect that as part of the package.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 10, 2008, 02:39:10 PM
heh heh.....she said "package"   (in my best Bevis voice)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 02:44:21 PM


                        YOU KNOW I WAS JUST THINKING THE MOST FULFILLING TIME IN CLAYS LIFE  IS PROBABLYWHEN HE SEES A CHILD.OR WHEN A CHILD SEES HIS SMILE HOW CAN ANYONE NOT FEEL LOVE FOR HIM. :hugg

                         OR IN THE WHITE PANTS  SORRY I JUST CANNOT BRING MYSELF TO GET UNSMUTTED TODAY. :lol THATS WHY YOU LOVE ME, RIGHT.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 10, 2008, 03:03:23 PM
LOOKING AT THE PIX, WE COULD SMUT ALL DAY.

YEAH, THE WHITE PANTS.  BUT WHICH ONES?  I GET STUCK ON OPENING NIGHT WHITE PANTS.  LORD, I ALMOST GOT MY EYE POKED OUT.

HOW'S THAT FOR SMUTTING, MARILYN????????

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 10, 2008, 03:13:06 PM
Frannie - Thank you for voicing your opinions with great love!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 10, 2008, 03:16:06 PM

I'm sorry if you don't agree with my use of the word disdain, but I stand behind it.  Clay is a man of many moods and his dealings with the fans have run the gamut of everything from effusive love to (yes) disdain IMO.  Doesn't mean that he feels that way all the time or about all of the fans, but some times about some of the fans.  Well after all, I think I disdain certain "fans" myself!  Don't you?  and I think certain "fans" deserve to be disdained.  So can you blame him if he did?

I fully acknowledge that Clay shows a lot of love at times to the fans.  I've felt it.  But to see him as literally unconditionally embracing us as a group all the time is not seeing him with open eyes.

That is all........just needed to defend my position.

And for the record I also do not agree that his silence is due to the fact that he is mad at the fans.  He knows there's backlash all the time about even small things so why wouldn't there be backlash now?  He knows to expect that as part of the package.
Must you be so negative


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 10, 2008, 03:19:04 PM
LOOKING AT THE PIX, WE COULD SMUT ALL DAY.

YEAH, THE WHITE PANTS.  BUT WHICH ONES?  I GET STUCK ON OPENING NIGHT WHITE PANTS.  LORD, I ALMOST GOT MY EYE POKED OUT.

HOW'S THAT FOR SMUTTING, MARILYN????????

GWENN

THERE YOU GO ..........I WOULD LOVE TO GET STUCK ON THOSE PANTS!!!! 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 10, 2008, 03:21:04 PM
ANY OPINION IS WELCOME ON THE BOARD. WE ARE FREE TO DISCUSS HOW WE FEEL WHETHER IT BE GOOD OR BAD, AND WE WELCOME DISCUSSION-IT MAKES LIFE MORE INTERESTING.



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 10, 2008, 03:23:44 PM
i know but hate to see people be negative and everynight i pray that clay and you guys are ok


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 10, 2008, 03:26:57 PM
GOOD LORD, SOMEWHERE I PASSED 25,000 POSTS!! EEEEK!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 10, 2008, 03:30:06 PM
huh?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 03:32:14 PM


                       CONGRADULATION MARILYN  25,000 WE LOVED EVERYONE OF THEM ESPECIALLY THE SMUTTY ONES SEE I JUST CANNOT STOP TODAY :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 10, 2008, 03:38:02 PM
what's smut


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 10, 2008, 03:57:57 PM
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Must you be so negative

I don't see myself as negative and I don't see my POV as "bad".  I just see myself as a realist with well thought out opinions who welcomes debate.

And I see myself as a sincere fan because that is my POV and yet the music makes me forget all that and keep runnin back for more.

Thank you all for tolerating my usage of my voice.  You're all very generous.   :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 10, 2008, 04:01:18 PM
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ANY OPINION IS WELCOME ON THE BOARD. WE ARE FREE TO DISCUSS HOW WE FEEL WHETHER IT BE GOOD OR BAD, AND WE WELCOME DISCUSSION-IT MAKES LIFE MORE INTERESTING.

Amen, MARILYN.  How boring would it be everybody here agreed with one another and never smutted?

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Thank you all for tolerating my usage of my voice.  You're all very generous.   

FRANNIE, one of my philosophies for daily living is "use it or lose it".  Please continue to speak up, woman!!  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 10, 2008, 04:01:50 PM
Frannie - I see your posts as...not a criticism, just an observation     :)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 10, 2008, 04:05:43 PM
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Must you be so negative

I don't see myself as negative and I don't see my POV as "bad".  I just see myself as a realist with well thought out opinions who welcomes debate.

And I see myself as a sincere fan because that is my POV and yet the music makes me forget all that and keep runnin back for more.

Thank you all for tolerating my usage of my voice.  You're all very generous.   :hugg
oh what i'm talking i'm just really afraid that you guy are gonna start turning your backs on him i'm so srry fran :hugg :sad :cry


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 04:11:11 PM



                                NOBODY HERE IS TURNING THEIR BACKS ON HIM WE ALL LOVE HIM JUST HAVE DIFFERENT FILTERS ON THINGS THATS A GOOD THING SWEETHEART. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 10, 2008, 04:14:37 PM
oh ok i feel better now thanx glory


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 04:16:19 PM


                                       YOU ARE SO WELCOME FRAN. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 10, 2008, 04:19:34 PM
yeah Frannie i didn't mean to be so criticizing


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 10, 2008, 04:41:12 PM

I'm sorry I scared you.  Clay is a fascinating character worthy of analysis, which I probably do way too much of.

Those of us who have been fans for 5+ years have examined every possible facet of this intriguing man  :slick   and the outcome is always the same---WE LOVE CLAY AIKEN!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 10, 2008, 04:51:21 PM
it's ok :hugg and yes forever we will LOVE CLAY AIKEN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 10, 2008, 04:53:24 PM
Those of us who have been fans for 5+ years have examined every possible facet of this intriguing man  :slick   
So, can we really wonder why he's laying low? :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 10, 2008, 05:08:59 PM
Lots of wonderful discussion going on here today -- and a lot of wonderful opinions.

Got my e-mail and have made a donation.

Even though Gwenn (I think) said the OFC seems to be a little calmer now, all it would take is a blog from Clay to get them all stirred up and then the nasty comments would probably surface again.   Even if the blog was about his trip to Somalia, the comments would be very critical because he didn't address all other issues. 

Without even waiting for any type of verification, it appears that the OFC got quite out of hand after the rumor broke.   It seems like Clay, Jaymes or someone with TC was there reading that night and it sounds like it was bad.  So, rather than going through that again, Clay probably decided he wasn't going to say anything one way or another until he is darn good and ready. 

I guess we have to live with his silence until he decides to break it.  Hopefully, what we hear will be well worth the wait.  I know I'll be right there waiting for him to come back to us--all rested and ready to go.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 05:11:27 PM



                                      DOESN'T SEEM LIKE 5+ years with all of you, MAYBE THAT'S CAUSE THERE HASN'T REALLY BEEN A DULL MOMENT ON THIS BOARD, THANKS TO ALL OF YOU. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 10, 2008, 05:43:38 PM
Those of us who have been fans for 5+ years have examined every possible facet of this intriguing man  :slick   
So, can we really wonder why he's laying low? :lol


omigod!! laying...low??? How low can he go?

ok that was very bad.

And you are right, Glory-never a dull moment


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 10, 2008, 06:00:07 PM
Those of us who have been fans for 5+ years have examined every possible facet of this intriguing man  :slick   
So, can we really wonder why he's laying low? :lol


omigod!! laying...low??? How low can he go?

ok that was very bad.

Yeah, I knew when I wrote it that you were gonna be the one to jump on it. (So to speak.) :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 10, 2008, 06:07:45 PM
Speaking of "jumping on it", one could get hurt. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Moonshot on July 10, 2008, 06:09:35 PM
Speaking of "jumping on it", one could get hurt. 

:spit


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 10, 2008, 06:12:26 PM
Speaking of "jumping on it", one could get hurt. 

I'm impaled, um, I mean, appalled! :blush



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 06:16:09 PM


                                 WELL I SEE I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE IN A SMUTTY MOOD TODAY  :lol :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 10, 2008, 06:42:10 PM
I LOVE ALL YOU GIRLS (about as much as I do Clay) :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 10, 2008, 06:44:08 PM


                                 WELL I SEE I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE IN A SMUTTY MOOD TODAY  :lol :lol

I have to settle down. I about shocked myself with that last one. :lol :blush


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 10, 2008, 06:45:10 PM
You guys are just the BEST!!!!!!!!!!   Loyal to Clay and to each other. Rare...very rare indeed!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 06:46:30 PM

                            SUNNY YOU SHOCKED ME TO.AND THAT TAKES A LOT. :blush :lol

                               MIMI WE LUB EACH OTHER GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE TO LUB TO. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 06:49:35 PM



                                 MIMI  YOU WANT TO SPLAIN THE MIMI AND MIMI2 THING I GUESS I MISSED IT.. :bduh


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 10, 2008, 06:50:53 PM
I'm back and I see there's still a whole lota smuttin' goin' on!   :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 10, 2008, 06:55:33 PM


                                 MIMI  YOU WANT TO SPLAIN THE MIMI AND MIMI2 THING I GUESS I MISSED IT.. :bduh

(Psst! Glory! There are two Mimis!)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 10, 2008, 07:00:00 PM
I AM LOVING THIS SMUTTING.  IT IS SO ..........NICE.   :roflmao :roflmao :roflmao

MARION JUST CALLED AND IS SAFELY IN LA.  SAYS HI.

I WILL SAY AGAIN HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE WOMEN HERE ON THIS BOARD.  I LOVE YOU ALL.

EVEN A VERY SMUTTIN' SUNNY.   :hugg :hugg :hugg   :blush :blush :blush

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 10, 2008, 07:01:42 PM
Good evening - I'm Mimi2  ( Liz)  Very new here.  But I'm crazy about Mr. Aiken.  All his bits and pieces   hehe


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 07:03:45 PM


                                 MIMI GLAD YOU STRAINGHED ME OUT. :lol I LOVE ALL HIS BITS TO, :roflmao

                                        THEA SUNNY'S BEEN SMUTTIN ALL DAY I NEVER SAID A WORD , HONEST. :roflmao DO YOU BELEIVE ME.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 10, 2008, 07:05:09 PM
Glory ~ I am just plain ole Mimi, I am the one who is the nanny to little girl with diabetes,Rebecca, and I live in Raleigh and my name is Marlene

Mimi2 is from NYC, and she loves Clay too especially in glasses.

Did that help any? :blink :scratch

Marlene


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 07:06:26 PM


                             AWE GWENN WE LOVE YOU TO, :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 07:08:27 PM



                                     THANKS FOR SPLAININ THAT TO ME  :lol MIMI I WAS STARTING TO THINK I WAS LOSING MY MARBLES.  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 10, 2008, 07:09:02 PM
LIZ---YOU AREN'T THAT NEW.  AND YOU CAN JOIN THE CREW WHO LOVES ALL OF MR. AIKEN'S BITS AND PIECES.  I PREFER THE NOT SO LITTLE PIECES MYSELF. 

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 10, 2008, 07:09:45 PM



                                     THANKS FOR SPLAININ THAT TO ME  :lol MIMI I WAS STARTING TO THINK I WAS LOSING MY MARBLES.  :lol

GLORY, MY LOVE---THEY HAVE BEEN GONE.  JUST ENJOY.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 10, 2008, 07:10:02 PM
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THEA SUNNY'S BEEN SMUTTIN ALL DAY I NEVER SAID A WORD , HONEST.  DO YOU BELEIVE ME.

GLORY, I actually can believe you.  I'm currently in a state of shock from SUNNY's smuttin'!  :oh  And I don't shame easily these days!   :lol :lol





Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 10, 2008, 07:11:19 PM
I WILL SAY AGAIN HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE WOMEN HERE ON THIS BOARD.  I LOVE YOU ALL.

EVEN A VERY SMUTTIN' SUNNY.   :hugg :hugg :hugg   :blush :blush :blush

                                             
                                               SUNNY'S BEEN SMUTTIN ALL DAY

Really, I don't know what's gotten int--, I mean, what's up wi--

Heck, I don't know what's going on with me. I think I'll just go to... sleep now before I embarrass myself again. :blush :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 10, 2008, 07:12:55 PM



                                     THANKS FOR SPLAININ THAT TO ME  :lol MIMI I WAS STARTING TO THINK I WAS LOSING MY MARBLES.  :lol

GLORY, MY LOVE---THEY HAVE BEEN GONE.  JUST ENJOY.

GWENN

 :lol :lol :thumb


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 10, 2008, 07:14:08 PM
I love his voice - it literally gives me chills
but the bits I like are as follows - Glasses, long dark hair, fingers, shoulders, big feet, green eyes, freckles, pink lips with tiny red spot, new teeth, old teeth, skinny, not so skinny, his heart, his tears...I guess you get it...I like it all!!!!!!!!!!  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 10, 2008, 07:16:29 PM
Well its hard to not smut after being shown pictures of hunky gorgeous ambassador with long brown hair ,glasses ,stubble and possibly white pants... who loves children...Have mercy, I need a cold  :shower  :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 10, 2008, 07:19:41 PM
Gorgeous!  That's the perfect word for HIM!  The mimis in complete agreement!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 10, 2008, 07:21:42 PM
I have to shut down now....bad thunderstorms outside.

I love you ladies.  Just sayin'  :hugg

'Night all!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 10, 2008, 07:23:06 PM
NITE NITE FELLOW CLAY LOVERS    SWEET CLAY DREAMS TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 10, 2008, 07:39:18 PM



                                SO YA'LL THINK I HAVE LOST MY MARBLES HUH WELL I NEVER WELL ACTUALLY I HAVE. :roflmao :roflmao

                             I KNEW MARLENE WAS MIMI I NOW KNOW THAT MIMI2 IS LIZ  HOW DID WE GET SO LUCKY TO HAVE 2 MIMI'S ON THE SAME THREAD I THINK IT WAS KARMA HUH. :hugg AND OUR GOOD FORTUNE.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 10, 2008, 07:47:57 PM
Thank you Glory..I'm thankful that we have you


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 10, 2008, 07:56:18 PM
Speaking of "jumping on it", one could get hurt. 

I'm impaled, um, I mean, appalled! :blush



 :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :naughty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 10, 2008, 07:56:47 PM


                                 WELL I SEE I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE IN A SMUTTY MOOD TODAY  :lol :lol

I have to settle down. I about shocked myself with that last one. :lol :blush

Not a chance!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 10, 2008, 07:58:55 PM
I WILL SAY AGAIN HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE WOMEN HERE ON THIS BOARD.  I LOVE YOU ALL.

EVEN A VERY SMUTTIN' SUNNY.   :hugg :hugg :hugg   :blush :blush :blush

                                             
                                               SUNNY'S BEEN SMUTTIN ALL DAY

Really, I don't know what's gotten int--, I mean, what's up wi--

Heck, I don't know what's going on with me. I think I'll just go to... sleep now before I embarrass myself again. :blush :wink

OMIGOD, YOU ARE SLAYING ME.................


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 10, 2008, 08:03:15 PM
BEEN ON THE PHONE WITH MARILYN AND JUST CAUGHT UP.  LOTS OF FUN.  JUST WHAT THE DOCTOR ORDERED.

AND I LOVE ALL OF HIS PARTS.  AS LONG AS THE GLASSES AREN'T ON ANY OF THEM.

NIGHT ALL.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 10, 2008, 08:08:10 PM
BEEN ON THE PHONE WITH MARILYN AND JUST CAUGHT UP.  LOTS OF FUN.  JUST WHAT THE DOCTOR ORDERED.

AND I LOVE ALL OF HIS PARTS.  AS LONG AS THE GLASSES AREN'T ON ANY OF THEM.

NIGHT ALL.

GWENN

GOOD LORD!! I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD ONLY BE ON HIS NOSE, COVERING HIS EYES!! ANYWHERE ELSE..................ACK!! A VISUAL!! :thud


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 11, 2008, 04:46:26 AM
You girls are hilarious. I wish I hadn't been so tired last night. I would have joined you.  :lol

Morning!  :wave


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 11, 2008, 05:21:20 AM
 :wave

Good morning! Happy TGIF! I'm taking the girls to the zoo today. Clay content - hope he is doing something fun today, too, and hope we will get more photos today!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 11, 2008, 06:03:54 AM
MORNING--

WELL, I WILL BE BUSY TODAY, THANK GOD.  THIS HAS BEEN THE QUIETEST WEEK IN AGES AROUND HERE AND I HATE IT.  THANK THE LORD WE GOT GREAT PIX AND THE FIELD NOTES.  MY DROUGHT IS OVER.  BUSY FOR THE NEXT WEEK. 

BUT CLAY HAS BEEN VERY BUSY SO I HOPE HE IS RESTING. 

SO, HOW IS EVERYONE?

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 11, 2008, 07:26:23 AM
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SO, HOW IS EVERYONE?

Doing fine!  Brother has flown back to Maryland, Mother's physical therapy is going well ,P has taken the train into his conference downtown Chicago for the day, Phil is off to do some church work and I am queen of the house for at least a few hours!   :shappy

Clay content:  Going to crank up the stereo, put in On My Way Here and tackle the mounds of laundry left from these past few weeks  :hypno

GWENN, glad you and MARILYN had some girlie giggles on the phone last night!  Of course, I'm sure there was absolutely no smuttin' going on!!!  :lol

MEESA, you are the hardest working woman here on CM.  'Wish you had more time to spend over here!  :hugg :hugg

 My Kenmore washer awaits........



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 11, 2008, 07:28:30 AM
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GOOD LORD!! I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD ONLY BE ON HIS NOSE, COVERING HIS EYES!! ANYWHERE ELSE..................ACK!! A VISUAL!!


 :lol MARILYN, magnification is good "anywhere else" !!!  :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dolphinluver on July 11, 2008, 07:47:52 AM
Paula Dean's website has Clay listed as upcoming celebrity guest - cannot WAIT to see her with him....she'll be all over all of that southern charmer!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 11, 2008, 07:52:55 AM
 :wave DOLPHINLUVER!

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Paula Dean's website has Clay listed as upcoming celebrity guest - cannot WAIT to see her with him....she'll be all over all of that southern charmer!

It should be a wonderful show!  Since I'm married to a Southern gent myself, I'll get a real kick out of seeing two Southerners on the same show.  Sometimes it's difficult to understand them, believe me!   :lol I wonder if they'll cook up Clay's favorite version of grits?  :wink
 
 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lucrezianoine on July 11, 2008, 08:00:10 AM
Paula Dean's website has Clay listed as upcoming celebrity guest - cannot WAIT to see her with him....she'll be all over all of that southern charmer!

 :bouncy Can't wait either. Paula likes butter. Maybe she'll ask him to help her lather up some of it :bigsmile :blush

Okay I'm just checkin' real quick..back to try to get some work done!

Try to be back later.

Happy Friday!

Jules :purpbana


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 11, 2008, 08:25:48 AM



                                    GOOD MORNING TO ALL HAVING LUNCH A FRIEND THEN HAVE TO CLEAN THE APT FROM STEM TO STERN, IF MY LIFE GETS ANYMORE EXCITING NOT SURE WHAT I WILL DO. :para :lol


                              I NEED A JOB BADLY HATE BEING UNPRODUCTIVE. I HAVE TRIED TO FIND SOMETHING MCDONALDS IS FAST BECOMING A REALITY. :lol TTYL


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 11, 2008, 09:27:01 AM
GLORY, I wish you lived near my mother.  She could use an excellent and sweet home health aide like you to get her through her hip surgery rehabilitation.   :hugg

Clay content:  All is quiet in our Clay land, and happily all is quiet is Amy Winehouse land , as well!   :lol

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20211974,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 11, 2008, 09:41:37 AM
I CAN"T WAIT UNTIL CLAY COME"S ON PAULA"S PARTY


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 11, 2008, 09:46:59 AM
THEA---ENJOY YOUR PEACE.  BARRY IS OUT ALSO.   :purpbana

 JUST GOT A NEW COMFORTER SET FOR MY GUEST ROOM AND  BOY DID I GET A BARGAIN.  BED-IN-A-BAG FOR A KING SIZED BED FOR $33!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  REDUCED AND REDUCED AND REDUCED AND I HAD A COUPON.  IT IS SO CUTE.  SO, I CHANGED THE GUEST ROOM AND SOON I AM GETTING INTO THE SHOWER.  DRINKS WITH ONE FRIEND AND DINNER WITH ANOTHER.  IT IS HER BIRTHDAY AND I AM TAKING HER OUT.

CLAY CONTENT---THIS IS SO CUTE.  MADE BY MARIEDRUMMAND WHO IS A VERY NEW CLAY FAN.  I THINK SHE DISCOVERED CLAY IN DECEMBER.  I READ HER VERY FIRST POST AT THE OFC A WHILE AGO.  SHE SEEMS VERY SWEET.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vs1pbKw0-dI

I MISS HIM.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 11, 2008, 09:52:13 AM
cool


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 11, 2008, 10:09:09 AM
I MISS HIM TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 11, 2008, 10:12:15 AM
don't we all


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 11, 2008, 10:23:47 AM
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JUST GOT A NEW COMFORTER SET FOR MY GUEST ROOM AND  BOY DID I GET A BARGAIN.  BED-IN-A-BAG FOR A KING SIZED BED FOR $33!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  REDUCED AND REDUCED AND REDUCED AND I HAD A COUPON.  IT IS SO CUTE.  SO, I CHANGED THE GUEST ROOM AND SOON I AM GETTING INTO THE SHOWER.  DRINKS WITH ONE FRIEND AND DINNER WITH ANOTHER.  IT IS HER BIRTHDAY AND I AM TAKING HER OUT.

Congrats, GWENN!  Such a great deal!  :clap  (Bed, Bath & Beyond or Linens 'n' Things, perhaps???)  Hopefully the first use for your "new" guest room will be for an upcoming Clay Aiken tour .  (Hey, I had to work his name in somehow!!!  :wink)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 11, 2008, 10:26:18 AM
THEA--BED, BATH, AND BEYOND.  GREAT DEALS. 

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 11, 2008, 10:35:11 AM
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THEA--BED, BATH, AND BEYOND.  GREAT DEALS. 


Indeed! You have inspired me now!!!  I think today might be a great day for "retail therapy" at BBB for me, as well.  Or TJ Maxx Home Store.  OY, I am putty in their hands (and would love to be putty in Clay's hand's, as well!  :slick)

 :moped


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Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 11, 2008, 10:40:01 AM
mmmm being putty in clay's hand would heaven


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Post by: lovinclay on July 11, 2008, 10:57:34 AM
I hate working!  :hissy I need to retire.  :pullhair Can't afford it.  :bang I'll be working till they carry me out of this place.    :sniff

Clay content:  Please take up a collection and have him sing at my funeral.  Call it the "Heaven Help Me Tour".   :theatre


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Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 11, 2008, 11:13:31 AM
oh lovinclay of course anything for a fellow claymaniac


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Post by: lovinclay on July 11, 2008, 11:49:53 AM
Hummmm


From the CH:


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There will be an exciting announcement made in Chicago this July. Delta Kappa Gamma has teamed with UNICEF to produce a CD that will serve as a fund-raiser for the Afghan Teacher Training Project. We are so excited to tell you all about it. The CD features the song "We Sing for the Children" which Northwest members sang in Vancouver, B.C. last summer. There is an update on the work being done in Afghanistan and interviews with Afghan teachers, UNICEF staff and the popular singing star Clay Aiken. You will be able to get a CD by making a donation of $15.00 or more at the convention.

Music for Afghan Teacher Training



Music for Afghan Teacher Training (http://moensmusicalmoments.blogspot.com/2008/07/music-for-afghan-teacher-training.html)

~fixed link - m



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Post by: corbet on July 11, 2008, 11:50:17 AM
  Gwen,
            WoW! that was a great deal. I guess this is a good time to shop.
     
                  I hope Clay has lots of putty, there is a great demand for it
 
              around here.
                   
                               Y"All, have a great day.
                                                                          Betty


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Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 11, 2008, 11:53:29 AM
mmmm clay's putty


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Post by: Sundancer on July 11, 2008, 11:55:59 AM
mmmm clay's putty

What? You're only 15. You're not supposed to know about things like that yet!


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Post by: corbet on July 11, 2008, 11:58:35 AM


Lovinclay,
               That"s great news !! I  tried to contact that number but there was nothing.
        I "ll certainly donate fifteen dollare to get the CD.Wonder where we can get more nformation??
            Methinks ,our man is involved in several things  we don"t know about..   Good!!!!
                Thanks for letting us know.
                                                                    Betty


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Post by: corbet on July 11, 2008, 12:03:35 PM


     Sundancer,
                              I   think Clayaikenishot  is thinking of Play Dough??? Maybe not!
       
                                                                                                        betty


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Post by: GWENN on July 11, 2008, 12:07:23 PM
SO HOW FAST WILL WE ALL BUY THIS??????   :clap :lmao :slick :wink MAYBE THIS IS WHAT FAYE WAS TALKING ABOUT?

SUNNY-- :wink

HOW COME I GET OUT OF A COOL SHOWER AND SWEAT???????  AND CLAY ISN'T EVEN INVOLVED.  ANNOYING.

GWENN


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Post by: claylily on July 11, 2008, 12:23:03 PM
I clicked on the link and it is no longer available.  Hmmmmmmmm?????


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Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 11, 2008, 12:26:47 PM
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the stupid link doesn't work


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Post by: claylily on July 11, 2008, 12:28:37 PM
What I meant is that the link is no longer available!  Sorry to get anyone upset.   :roflmao


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Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 11, 2008, 12:29:16 PM
damn


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Post by: Moonshot on July 11, 2008, 12:32:54 PM
What I meant is that the link is no longer available!  Sorry to get anyone upset.   :roflmao

I fixed the link. You can also go to the main page of the blog for updates and answers to your questions:

http://moensmusicalmoments.blogspot.com/ (http://moensmusicalmoments.blogspot.com/)

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The CD will be available after the convention.
It will be sold through Delta Kappa Gamma and
at the United Nations Gift Shop.


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Post by: Sundancer on July 11, 2008, 12:35:09 PM
I fixed the link.
It's Moonshot to the rescue! :purpbana


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Post by: Moonshot on July 11, 2008, 12:37:52 PM
I fixed the link.
It's Moonshot to the rescue! :purpbana

aw shucks. I do what I can.  :smile


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Post by: lovinclay on July 11, 2008, 12:42:39 PM
I fixed the link.
It's Moonshot to the rescue! :purpbana

aw shucks. I do what I can.  :smile


And you do it very well, I might add.   :clap


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Post by: Moonshot on July 11, 2008, 12:49:31 PM
I fixed the link.
It's Moonshot to the rescue! :purpbana
aw shucks. I do what I can.  :smile
and you do it very well, I might add.   :clap

Thanks ladies :hugg


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Post by: Marilyn on July 11, 2008, 01:00:34 PM
 :wave

Y'all should be happy I behaved and delted major smut. (whomever he may be)

Hey Michelle!!! hows it going?

I think I may go to Bed Bath and Beyond too- my comforter looks like it had a workout and came out on the losing end.


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Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 11, 2008, 01:04:01 PM
THANX MOONSHOT


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Post by: Sundancer on July 11, 2008, 02:00:06 PM
Y'all should be happy I behaved and delted major smut. (whomever he may be)

I saw what you wrote, and I hate to say it but... I thought the same thing. :blush :lol


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Post by: Glory on July 11, 2008, 02:06:58 PM

                       OH DANG I MISSED SMUT I AM SLIPPING  , :blush YOU CAN REPEAT IT IF YOU WANT TO. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 11, 2008, 02:25:15 PM
i'm going to take a little rest ttyl ladies luv ya'll


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Post by: GWENN on July 11, 2008, 03:38:22 PM
WITH MARILYN AND THEA GOING TO BB AND B, I SHOULD BE GETTING A COMMISSION.   :wink

ROUND 1 IS OVER.  THE BEST PINK GRAPEFRUIT MARTINI I EVER HAD.  WAITING FOR ROUND 2.  I AM NOT EVEN HUNGRY.  OY.

GWENN


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Post by: fhmmany2 on July 11, 2008, 04:24:07 PM
 :wave I just realized where Clay was today - buying the new iphone. Maybe he will blog and tell us all about it.  :bigsmile


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Post by: Sundancer on July 11, 2008, 05:01:45 PM
:wave I just realized where Clay was today - buying the new iphone. Maybe he will blog and tell us all about it.  :bigsmile

If he can get it activated. :wink


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Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 11, 2008, 05:45:18 PM
I hate working!  :hissy I need to retire.  :pullhair Can't afford it.  :bang I'll be working till they carry me out of this place.    :sniff



I know the feeling Micki.  That's why I love for Clay to tour.  As long as I have that to spend my money on, it makes makes the work seem much more bearable--the reason for working (as well as a roof over my head, food, etc.  :bigsmile)


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Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 11, 2008, 06:12:52 PM
TGIF -- I have been so tired all week that I am glad the weekend is finally here.

Now that I have had time to read back, it seems like I missed a grand old time last night -- too bad I fell asleep on the couch.

Keep up the good work ladies. 

 :bigsmile        :bigsmile


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Post by: claydevotee on July 11, 2008, 06:19:29 PM
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WITH MARILYN AND THEA GOING TO BB AND B, I SHOULD BE GETTING A COMMISSION.   


And a hefty commision it would have been,  GWENN.  Even with the unlimited 20% off coupons I always manage to spend too much $$$$.

Re the new iPhone mentioned by FRANKIE and SUNNY.  If Clay did buy one, how come he hasn't called us yet???  Now I"m getting worried.   :bubble :dust

TGIF, eh BARBARA and MICKI?   'Glad you have the weekend to rest.   :hugg :hugg

Ugh, I can't take this heat and humidity.   I'm happy to be sitting in the nice cool air conditioning right now. 



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 11, 2008, 06:35:17 PM
hey ladies what's up i'm giving you my name which is nicole or nikki what ever you perfere to call me


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 11, 2008, 07:49:24 PM
THINGS ARE QUIET HERE TONIGHT. 

BACK FROM DINNER.  IT WAS FUN.  I AM STUFFED.  I LOVE BEING BUSY.

THEA--SO YOU ARE KEEPING BB AND B IN BUSINESS?  IT ISN'T HARD.  I GO NUTS IN THAT PLACE.  I JUST GOT LUCKY TODAY.

SO THE LAST TIME CLAY GOT AN IPHONE, HE WAS SO EXCITED HE TRIED IT OUT ON US.  I GUESS HE EITHER DIDN'T GET THE NEW ONE OR FOUND SOME OTHER FOLKS.    :scratch :sniff :sad

GOTTA GO TO BED.  I AM TIRED.  BUSY DAY TOMORROW.

GWENN


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Post by: Marilyn on July 11, 2008, 10:30:15 PM
Y'all should be happy I behaved and delted major smut. (whomever he may be)

I saw what you wrote, and I hate to say it but... I thought the same thing. :blush :lol
:highfive


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 11, 2008, 10:32:26 PM
THINGS ARE QUIET HERE TONIGHT. 

IT ISN'T HARD.   I JUST GOT LUCKY TODAY.


GWENN

BUT IF YOU GOT LUCKY, IT HAD TO BE.........
CLAY CONTENT-WISH I COULD GET LUCKY!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 11, 2008, 11:08:13 PM
SO THE LAST TIME CLAY GOT AN IPHONE, HE WAS SO EXCITED HE TRIED IT OUT ON US.  I GUESS HE EITHER DIDN'T GET THE NEW ONE OR FOUND SOME OTHER FOLKS.    :scratch :sniff :sad
'You think he's cheating on us?? :eek


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 12, 2008, 05:35:22 AM
SO THE LAST TIME CLAY GOT AN IPHONE, HE WAS SO EXCITED HE TRIED IT OUT ON US.  I GUESS HE EITHER DIDN'T GET THE NEW ONE OR FOUND SOME OTHER FOLKS.    :scratch :sniff :sad
'You think he's cheating on us?? :eek :lol

 :yes :yes :yes :cry :cry :cry

HAVING COMPANY FOR DINNER.  ANYONE VOLUNTEER TO PEAL 5 POUNDS OF POTATOES?

THINGS ARE QUIET HERE TONIGHT. 

IT ISN'T HARD.   I JUST GOT LUCKY TODAY.


GWENN

BUT IF YOU GOT LUCKY, IT HAD TO BE.........
CLAY CONTENT-WISH I COULD GET LUCKY!!!

WITH HIM?  YEP. :blush :angel :bigsmile  JUST DON'T TELL BARRY.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 12, 2008, 05:49:56 AM
Clay Wouldn't Cheat on us would he :bawl


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 12, 2008, 05:56:58 AM
SO THE LAST TIME CLAY GOT AN IPHONE, HE WAS SO EXCITED HE TRIED IT OUT ON US.  I GUESS HE EITHER DIDN'T GET THE NEW ONE OR FOUND SOME OTHER FOLKS.    :scratch :sniff :sad
'You think he's cheating on us?? :eek

 :yes :yes :yes :cry :cry :cry

That beast!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 12, 2008, 06:07:46 AM
Clay's so fluffy and cute and It just makes what hug him and sqeeze him


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Post by: Glory on July 12, 2008, 07:54:48 AM



                                  NEVER HEARD CLAY CALLED FLUFFY BWAH. HE IS KINDA CUTE ISN'T HE. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 12, 2008, 08:15:13 AM
 :wave

Happy Saturday, everybody - hope we hear from His Clayness today.  :cross


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 12, 2008, 08:47:07 AM
SO THE LAST TIME CLAY GOT AN IPHONE, HE WAS SO EXCITED HE TRIED IT OUT ON US.  I GUESS HE EITHER DIDN'T GET THE NEW ONE OR FOUND SOME OTHER FOLKS.    :scratch :sniff :sad
'You think he's cheating on us?? :eek

 :yes :yes :yes :cry :cry :cry

That beast!

 :lmao Yup, Clay is certainly quite the two-timer!!!  The nerve of him not to at least send us a text-message on his new iPhone!   :cuss  :lol

Hope everybody has a great Saturday.  Lots of cookin' and laundry on the schedule for me.  P is leaving to return to CA early Monday morning.   :cry

I was so sad to read that Tony Snow, the former White House press secretary succumbed to cancer at the age of 53.  He was certainly a gentleman and an overall class act.  My heartfelt condolences go out to his family and friends.  Rest in peace, Tony.  Job well done during your all-too-brief sojourn on this earth..   :notworthy


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Moonshot on July 12, 2008, 11:19:31 AM
Clay's so fluffy and cute and It just makes what hug him and sqeeze him

I thought he'd reduced his fluffiness since that not-so-nice letter someone sent Quiana about it :scratch


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Post by: franniek54 on July 12, 2008, 11:34:51 AM

Or since Jamie quit doing his hair.   (Oops!  (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/emoties/Oh%20Shit/26588.gif))


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 12, 2008, 12:10:38 PM
oh forget letters his hair will always look fluffy to mebe cute and and he'll always be cute and sexy too


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 12, 2008, 12:21:04 PM
I have a pretty funny story to tell you all. Yesterday at work I had to talk with one of the nurses in another area, so I went over there and the PCA working there asked me if I was headed to NC anytime soon. (She knows I like Clay and saw the group pic of all of us that got together last March.) I told her I was headed to NC in October and we got to talking about UNICEF. She had seen a few pics I have in my office the other day when she stopped by and I was at lunch. She said she sat down at my desk to leave me a note and saw my M & G pic. She was shocked to see me that close to Clay.  :lol Anyway, we walked back to my office yesterday because she wanted to see the new UNICEF pics. I had printed out an 8 x 10 to update my pics at work. She loved it! But after mentioning she was happy he was making a difference she said she liked his JBT hair better.  :lmao I have the pic that was used for promotion for JBT hanging up.  :roflmao I told her many a Clay conversation goes back to his hair.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 12, 2008, 12:25:12 PM
wait what's going in oct in nc and do you have to be a member


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Post by: GWENN on July 12, 2008, 01:10:45 PM
MEESA--THAT IS A VERY FUNNY STORY.  IT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO THE HAIR.   :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

NICOLE--IT IS THE BAF GALA.  THERE IS NO MEMBERSHIP BUT IT ISN'T CHEAP.  MARION,JILL, AND I ARE PLANNING ON GOING ALSO.  TICKET STRESS.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 12, 2008, 03:07:43 PM
how much is it for tickets not that i'll be able to go because i live in pa and i'll be in school i think the closet i'm going to get to see clay is during christmas vacation if he goes on tour


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Post by: Moonshot on July 12, 2008, 03:14:42 PM
how much is it for tickets not that i'll be able to go because i live in pa and i'll be in school i think the closet i'm going to get to see clay is during christmas vacation if he goes on tour

I think tickets are $250 for the Gala in Raleigh.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 12, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
oh shit and he's going to be there now i wish we had a holiday off in october dude i can't afford that considering how much gas is going up and my family and i are trying to keep our house


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 12, 2008, 04:32:59 PM
Hope everyone is having a great Saturday. 

Been a busy day for me but at least I am not quite as tired as I was this past week.

Just checking in to see if there is any news, but I see not.  Not that I was really expecting it anyway.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 12, 2008, 04:52:59 PM
yeah of course but there's alot of clack


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 12, 2008, 05:45:03 PM



                                   BARB ALL THE BOARDS ARE REALLY QUIET TODAY  I REALLY NEED SOME EXCITMENT :bigsmile MAYBE CLAY IS AT HOME WITH RALEIGH AND DURHAM DOING NOTHING WATCHING CNN, EATING A BIG BOWL OF BEYERS PEACH ICE CREAM OR SITTING ON HIS PATIO WITH A GLASS OF SWEET TEA LISTENING TO THE BIRDS OR HE COULD BE PLANNING SOMETHING BIG FOR US AND HIM. THE POSSIBILITES ARE ENDLESS

                           I MISS HIM HE SPOILED US BIG TIME. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 12, 2008, 05:49:52 PM
if he's resting at home then good for him he deserves it


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 12, 2008, 06:06:21 PM
Yes, he certainly does deserve some time for rest and relaxation.

But, I also agree with Glory that I hope he is at least thinking about or planning what he is going to do for us next. 

We're easy -- that's all it would take.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 12, 2008, 06:14:03 PM
yes that's true but i'm pretty sure he's planning something fun for us


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 12, 2008, 06:24:52 PM
 :wave Ladies!  Just checking in for the evening.  I just got in from my first long walk with my dog Mimi in about 2 weeks.  It's either been too hot, I'm too busy or too tired.  This evening it is beautiful---cooler, low humidity and a bit breezy + no mosquitoes!!!  :clap

It is quiet around here and on other Boards, but I kind of like the peacefulness for at least a short time. 

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But, I also agree with Glory that I hope he is at least thinking about or planning what he is going to do for us next. 

We're easy -- that's all it would take.

BARBARA, we are most certainly "easy" when it comes to Clay!!!  He is so easy  to look at , to listen to and to love  (I mean that in the most innocent of terms, I think!  :para  :blush  :lol 

Have a great evening, everybody! 


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Post by: fhmmany2 on July 12, 2008, 07:00:29 PM
 :wave

Just a check in. We had out hottest day of the year so far - 99 degrees. I am down to one granddaughter today (the 9 year old) and she goes home tomorrow.

The Droughts are hard - but it is so great when they are over - hoping at least for a Christmas concert. As I posted in the OCD, it may be a good thing that there is no summer Tour. Son and DIL had a sold out flight cancelled for no reason  (had to stay in DC an extra day) - with fuel costs, it may have been a nightmare getting around this summer - hope things will be better in time for the Gala in October.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 12, 2008, 07:07:59 PM
:wave Ladies!  Just checking in for the evening.  I just got in from my first long walk with my dog Mimi in about 2 weeks. 

Ooh, Mimi3! :lol



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BARBARA, we are most certainly "easy" when it comes to Clay!!!  He is so easy  to look at , to listen to and to love  (I mean that in the most innocent of terms, I think!  :para  :blush  :lol   
 
Yeah, me too. :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 12, 2008, 07:19:21 PM


                                   SUNNY I'M HAVING A HARD TIME KEEPING UP WITH 2 MIMI'S LET ALONE 3. :lol

                            WELL NOTHIN INNOCENT ABOUT MY FEELINGS FOR CLAY I ADMIT IT. :lol :lol I AM BAD I KNOW BUT LIFE IS SHORT. I USED TO BE YOUNGER. :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 12, 2008, 07:24:06 PM
I LOVE YOU LADIES.  I HAVE COMPANY.  THEY ARE LOOKING AT BARRY'S TRAINS.  I HAVE SEEN THEM.   :slick :wink

THEA-- I SEND BARRY OUT WITH THE DOGS.  I AM OVER THEM.  HE LOVES THEM.  THEY ARE CUTE.  I COULD BE FINE WITHOUT THEM.  I GUESS I AM MEAN.  BUT I CANNOT STAND HEAT AND HUMIDITY SO HE HAS TO WALK THEM.

WHERE IS HE?????????  SO ANNOYING.  SOMEONE SOMEWHERE SHOULD KNOW.   :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 12, 2008, 07:25:47 PM
WHERE IS HE?????????  SO ANNOYING.  SOMEONE SOMEWHERE SHOULD KNOW.   :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang

I'm sure someone somewhere does. They just ain't tellin'.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 12, 2008, 07:29:56 PM


    I USED TO BE YOUNGER. :lmao


DIDN'T WE ALL   :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 12, 2008, 07:38:45 PM



                                GWENN I CAN TELL YOU WHERE HE'S NOT ,WITH ME , :lol ASK SUNNY OR MOONY THEY LIVE IN RALEIGH SUNNY KNOWS WHERE HE LIVES SHE IS NOT A VERY GOOD SPY THOUGH, :lol ,GOOD THING I DON'T LIVE THERE I WOULD GO NUTS WONDERING WHERE HE IS, THIS WAY I CAN GO NUTS AND NOT GET IN MY CAR AND HUNT HIM DOWN DID THAT MAKE SENSE.  :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 12, 2008, 07:47:28 PM
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I LOVE YOU LADIES.  I HAVE COMPANY.  THEY ARE LOOKING AT BARRY'S TRAINS.  I HAVE SEEN THEM.    

GWENN, it seems all men have their "toys",  Phil's is his stamp collection.  :para  He has a "stamp" room in the one of the extra bedrooms upstairs.  Albums, magnifying glass, bowls of water to soak stamps off of envelopes.....OY!!!



    I USED TO BE YOUNGER. :lmao


DIDN'T WE ALL   :para
GLORY and BARBARA!   :lmao Absolutely priceless!!!!

:wave Ladies!  Just checking in for the evening.  I just got in from my first long walk with my dog Mimi in about 2 weeks. 

Ooh, Mimi3! :lol



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BARBARA, we are most certainly "easy" when it comes to Clay!!!  He is so easy  to look at , to listen to and to love  (I mean that in the most innocent of terms, I think!  :para  :blush  :lol   
 
Yeah, me too. :slick


 :lmao


SUNNY,  :lmao :lmao Yes, we do have a Mimi 3.  Except she hasn't said anything to me lately about Clay.  She's too interested in the Buddy the studly male Golden Retriever up the street!  :lol



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 12, 2008, 08:06:30 PM
Glory,

Yep, and I've got his number on speed dial. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Moonshot on July 12, 2008, 08:14:33 PM
GWENN I CAN TELL YOU WHERE HE'S NOT ,WITH ME , :lol ASK SUNNY OR MOONY THEY LIVE IN RALEIGH SUNNY KNOWS WHERE HE LIVES SHE IS NOT A VERY GOOD SPY THOUGH, :lol ,GOOD THING I DON'T LIVE THERE I WOULD GO NUTS WONDERING WHERE HE IS, THIS WAY I CAN GO NUTS AND NOT GET IN MY CAR AND HUNT HIM DOWN DID THAT MAKE SENSE.  :roflmao

If you want to make sure you don't see him then I suggest moving to Raleigh. :lol

I haven't a clue where he is and I'm too busy keeping up with what's up with me to think about what Clay is up to. :lol



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 12, 2008, 08:21:21 PM


                             CURIOUSITY WOULD DO ME IN. :lol

                                I GUESS YOUR RIGHT HE SEEMS TO BE GONE A LOT HUH.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 12, 2008, 08:22:53 PM

                             CURIOUSITY WOULD DO ME IN. :lol

I think they call that stalking. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 12, 2008, 08:32:45 PM



                              ME STALKING :lmao O MIGHTY ONE WOULD GET CAUGHT ,AND THEN WHAT WOULD WE DO.I'D CALL CLAY TO BAIL ME OUT THINK THAT WOULD WORK. I THINK I BETTER QUIT WHILE I AM AHEAD.  :lol

                       I HOPE YOU KNOW I AM JUST  KIDDING, OR MAYBE NOT.

                          ALL WE NEED IS A HI I AM FINE HOPE ALL OF YOU ARE WELL THAT WOULD LIFT MY MOOD A WHOLE BUNCH NEWS OF A TOUR WOULD BE EVEN BETTER


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: paclayfan on July 13, 2008, 05:02:03 AM
Hi Everybody
I went to the Mann Music Center this weekend in Phila. to see Frankie Valli and the 4 Seasons.  It was a great show, but it made me miss Clay's show. Nobody is better on stage than Clay
It was just about a year ago many of us were there.

BTW - Clay isn't the only one with obnoxious fans. I heard "I love you Frankie!" a thousand times! People near us almost got in a fight!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 13, 2008, 05:32:14 AM
Hi Everybody
I went to the Mann Music Center this weekend in Phila. to see Frankie Valli and the 4 Seasons.  It was a great show, but it made me miss Clay's show. Nobody is better on stage than Clay
It was just about a year ago many of us were there.

BTW - Clay isn't the only one with obnoxious fans. I heard "I love you Frankie!" a thousand times! People near us almost got in a fight!

DEANNA---I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE MANN A LOT.  OF COURSE, IT WAS THERESA AND MY SPECIAL NIGHT, BUT I WILL NEVER FORGET CLAY STANDING RIGHT IN FROM OF SUSY AND ME.  I COULD SEE TOENAILS AND WE ALL KNOW I HAVE VISION ISSUES.  IT WAS INCREDIBLE.

I AM SURPRISED ABOUT THE FRANKIE VALLI FANS.  BUT MAYBE NOT.  PHILLY IS KNOWN FOR FOLKS WHO LET THE ENTERTAINER/SPORTS PERSON KNOW HOW THEY FEEL. :wink :naughty :bigsmile

BARRY AND I ARE GOING TO SEE A SHOW WITH 2 OTHER COUPLE TODAY ABOUT MARRIAGE.  IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUNNY.  ALL 3 COUPLES ARE MARRIED A LONG, LONG, LONG TIME. 

BUT I WOULD SO RATHER SEE CLAY.  A TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE.  WDC FROM DOVER.  WE WERE THERE AND SPOKE TO THE MAN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SHOW.  IT WAS FOR THE BAF AND PRECEDED  A RACE.  THIS MAN WAS SO SHOCKED.  HE SAID IF HE HADN'T SEEN IT HIMSELF, HE WOULDN'T HAVE BELIEVED THAT CLAY DID THAT KIND OF SONG.  WELL, HE DOES AND SHOULD.  I WAS HOPING JAYMES WOULD HAVE FOUND A SONG LIKE THIS SOMETIME IN THE PAST 3 YEARS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad3-cjBijm4

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 13, 2008, 05:55:21 AM
oh wow you ladies like to sppy on him alot


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 13, 2008, 06:00:19 AM
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I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE MANN A LOT.

Haven't we all! :wink


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Post by: GWENN on July 13, 2008, 06:36:56 AM
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I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE MANN A LOT.

Haven't we all! :wink

 :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 13, 2008, 06:40:17 AM
Who Hasn't been thinking about him


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 13, 2008, 07:00:51 AM
 :wave

Gwenn - it's good to wake up to a Clay video.

Have a great Sunday, everyone.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 13, 2008, 07:07:16 AM



                                               WELL I NEVER THINK ABOUT HIM DO YOU BELEIVE ME. NOPE I DIDN'T THINK SO. :lol

                                            I WONDER SOMETIMES WHO DOES THE REGULAR STUFF FOR HIM LIKE TAKING OUT THE GARBAGE, WHO BUYS HIS GROCERIES, IF HE DOES HIS OWN LAUNDRY,WHO PICKS OUT HIS CLOTHES HOPEFULLY NOT HIM ANYMORE, WHAT KIND OF TOLIET PAPER HE PREFERS. JUST NORMAL STUFF, ANY COMMENTS ARE WELCOME.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 13, 2008, 07:21:09 AM
THAT'S PART OF THE FACINATION WITH MR. AIKEN.  YOU JUST WONDER WHAT HE'S UP TO. VERY CURIOUS!!!!!!!!!   I MISS HIM!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 13, 2008, 07:29:24 AM
Me, I think he is getting his motor tuned up for a for the next  ride .................

I wouldn't mind helping him.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 13, 2008, 07:50:01 AM
yeah i wouldn't mind helping him either


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 13, 2008, 08:11:44 AM
CLAY CONTENT- I THINK HE WOULD FIND THESE FUNNY.... :lol

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Police were called to a day care where a 3-yr-old was resisting a rest

Hear about the guy whose whole left side was cut off? He's all right now.

To write with a broken pencil is pointless.

When fish are in schools, they sometimes take debate.

The short fortune teller who escaped from prison was a small medium at large.

A thief who stole a calendar got 12 months.

When the smog lifts in Los Angeles , U.C.L.A.

The dead batteries were given out free of charge.

A bicycle can't stand alone; it is two tired.

A will is a dead giveaway.

Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.

A backward poet writes inverse.

In a democracy it's your vote that counts; in feudalism, it's your Count that votes.

A chicken crossing the road: poultry in motion.

If you don't pay your exorcist you can get repossessed.

Show me a piano falling down a mine shaft & I'll show you A-flat miner. Or a will B-Flat Minor??

The guy who fell onto an upholstery machine was fully recovered.

A grenade fell onto a kitchen floor in France , resulted in Linoleum Blownapart.

You are stuck with your debt if you can't budge it.

A calendar's days are numbered.

A lot of money is tainted: 'Taint yours, and 'taint mine.

A boiled egg is hard to beat.

He had a photographic memory which was never developed.

Those who get too big for their britches will be exposed in the end.

When you've seen one shopping center, you've seen a mall.

When she saw her first strands of gray hair, she thought she'd dye.

Bakers trade bread recipes on a knead to know basis.

Santa's helpers are subordinate clauses.

Acupuncture: a jab well done.

I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me.

The roundest knight at King Arthur's round table was Sir Cumference.

A thief fell & broke his leg in wet cement. He became a hardened criminal.

A dentist & a manicurist fought tooth and nail.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 13, 2008, 08:17:45 AM
Hi people... :wave

I'm back from my week up north...it was fabulous, but talk about hot...!  We were visiting my cousin in San Anselmo...and I think it was record heat for northern CA...106 degrees I believe, our first night up there...and her ac was out...Diane, my cousin, and I were ready to move on to a motel...we dumped out some cleaner...and used a spray bottle filled with water to readily 'shower' ourselves all night long...the air was so still/close/humidity?  I maintained perspective by comparing it to the temps in NC last August for the Cary concert...now that was a blast furnace. Where's my misty mate when I need it?   :lol

It took me all evening to catch up on this thread...a real treat after no Internet for days on end.  (I made my cousin stop at Kinkos Friday to stop for a minute to at least look on google news to make sure something more about Clay hadn't hit the press in the interim).

I woke up today thinking this...I wonder if Clay is in contract negotiations...and is resistant to signing on with another record label too...we've had a crash course in how ugly this side of the music biz is, and can you imagine how much more so it is to Clay,...withholding shipments...etc. to alter numbers...and that info I read about soundscan games over at the CH, I think. Could it be, that Clay would prefer to sing on his own terms, and formally earn income from TV...in another words...put on a 'Carol Burnett' kind of show...or that on the road one he chats about...and then offer his singing as he wishes...not prescribed by a label.  Or...if a baby is coming...  :wink ...maybe the next Mr. Rogers kind of show is not out of the question, at this time for him. He'd have more artistic freedom this way.
As I mentioned a few weeks ago, I could also see Clay becoming more formally involved in UNICEF...perhaps in a role created for him to educate to the masses more extensively what is happening globally for children.  (He'd still sing for us...but not full time...)

Per Sunny's point, I think he enjoys blogging in a limited fashion...only when he thinks he's got something to say...to announce a surprise or two... if he's been stubborn about writing lyrics only when it seems meaningful to him...I'd imagine blogging would be the same.

Remembering Faye's mood when I met her, she seemed genuinely upbeat.  I choose to believe good things/maybe great things are in the offing. By the way, Faye commented to us all how impressed she was by the bond of affection among the fan group members that I belong to out here in So Cal...we share a similar energy to this board...so I'd like to think that Clay and team are well aware of the variety fans he has...and that most are really caring folks...like us!  :hugg

BTW...the fires were so massive that all the way inland in highway 5 as we were driving northbound, we could smell the acrid air...and the skies usually very clear at this time of year were murky. I've been out of the loop for news and haven't caught up on it all yet...I hope that our gorgeous Big Sur country isn't completely decimated.

LOVE...LOVE...LOVE... the new UNICEF pics...oh my golly!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 13, 2008, 08:22:25 AM
I WAS HOPING JAYMES WOULD HAVE FOUND A SONG LIKE THIS SOMETIME IN THE PAST 3 YEARS.






You would think.   :para 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 13, 2008, 08:31:04 AM
WELCOME BACK JOHANNA. :wave  WHEN DID YOU SPEAK TO FAYE?  I WOULD BE CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. 

MICKI-- :hugg  YEP

MARILYN--TOO FUNNY.   :lol

GLORY--YOU ARE JUST TOO MUCH, GF.

AS TO DOING SOMETHING ELSE, I HAVE FELT FOR A WHILE THAT SOMETHING WAS UP.  I JUST FEEL IT.  NO IDEA WHY.  I DON'T GET PREMONITIONS.  BUT THE WAY HE JUST THREW OUT THE CD AND THEN OFF HE WENT, JUST DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE TO ME.  I READ ON ANOTHER BOARD THAT LYLE LOVETT SAID HE NEVER MADE A CENT FROM CD SALES.  THAT THE ONLY POINT OF MAKING ONE WAS TO HAVE SOMETHING TO TOUR WITH.  SO, MAYBE HE REALLY DID MAKE THE CD FOR US AND WILL TOUR EVENTUALLY, BUT GAVE US THIS GIFT IN THE MEANTIME WHILE HE DID THE SOMETHING ELSE.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 13, 2008, 08:35:46 AM
you talked clay's mom omg next time tell that i said and see f if she tell clay hi from all of us


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 13, 2008, 10:54:52 AM
Hi Everyone,  One thing I hope Clay did not do today was read the editorial in the Life section of the News & Observer....How disgusting ..What some people won't do to try and get a laugh..The Claymates have sent this person, who wrote the article, hate mail and she is refering to it ,as the most violent protest to date: The Clay Aiken Defenders League Poutfest of 2008.

Evidently she had written an earlier column an made a comment using , to quote her : she used a itsy, tiny four-word phrase implying Clay Aiken likes women's clothes.  (Can't imagine what that was about.)

The sentence that made me so mad was : Look here's the thing . When a celebrity arranges to have a turkey-baster -style baby with a 50-year-old woman "friend"all bets are off ,hons. You're in the Big Leagues of Weird Celebrity-dom when that happens Own it. Relish it. Bathe in its intoxicatingly skewed stew.

One of the letters she recieved said, "Clay Aiken has said time & time again that he is a heterosexual male..."
Her reply: Ok, do you just not get out much or what? Heterosexual males don't artifically inseminate women friends old enough to be their mamas. See Michael, comma Jackson.

Its along article but this just hits the very low points.

Poor Clay how do you think he must feel knowing that this is how people see him ..Disgusted & hurt ..Maybe this is why he hasn't addressed the issue..it doesn't matter what you say people will believe what they want to.I can just hear the ladies at the Y tomorrow jumping me about this one.

Well thank you for listening to my rant but I am HOT!!  Nothing in this stupid paper can mention about his success on Broadway ,singing at the Lincoln Center for the President, and certainly not about his trip to Somalia, they always go for the negative..NOTHING POSITIVE. :bang

I'm shutting up now..

Marlene~


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 13, 2008, 11:24:50 AM
     Marlene,
                  How heartbreaking!! I know Clay is a strong man ,but how much does he have to
 
       endure from these ugly, viscious creatures?I sincerely hope he does"nt read it ,especially if
 
        some of his so called fans are involved.    How many of them would have the courage and

        compassion to go to the places he goes to help little children, they are too cowardly.

         No wonder he does"nt blog  on the OFC   after all those cruel blogs by some people,

         I wish he would read some of our other groups and know how we support and love him.

How can we not be mad, I"d like to slap them all silly and I"m not a violent person.

                               Hugs,
                                                    Betty

                       


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 13, 2008, 12:02:12 PM



                                       THEY CALL THIS FREE SPEECH.I CALL IT GARBAGE.I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HE HAS DONE TO DESERVE THIS, I WOULD LOVE TO SLAP THEM UPSIDE THE HEAD. THERE JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY DECENCY LEFT WHEN  THEY TRY AND DESTROY SOMEBODYS CHARACTER. THIS IS HIS HOMETOWN DOING THIS I WISH HE'D SUE ALL OF THEM FOR DEFAMEMATION . I REALLY DO.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 13, 2008, 01:40:56 PM
i would like to bitch slap them


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 13, 2008, 01:55:19 PM
Just checked out Wral Fm Mix 101.5 Songlist for today and they have played Clay twice at 2:48am, and at 2:38 pm..He has dropped on the chart list to #19...However on the songlist Top 20 chart ,he is # 10...I don't understand all I need to know about all these charts and #s.  :bduh
 We went to Lonestar for lunch after church today ,and low & behold who started singing ,non other than our Mr Aiken ..now if any of you are familiar with Lonestar it is mostly country motif & plays country music so what was Mr. Aiken singing ?..."Invisible"

My husband (bless his heart) said," isn't that your boy"?..I started to say I only wish!! :wink I thought that was funny that he of all people would reconize who was singing so he pays more attention than I think he does sometime.  Could it be he's brainwashed... :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 13, 2008, 02:02:03 PM
awww clay was on the radio but he's always #1 on my Playlist


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: quynn on July 13, 2008, 02:11:55 PM
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Poor Clay how do you think he must feel knowing that this is how people see him ..Disgusted & hurt ..Maybe this is why he hasn't addressed the issue..it doesn't matter what you say people will believe what they want to.I can just hear the ladies at the Y tomorrow jumping me about this one.

Considering he seems to be an intelligent, classy guy, maybe he doesn't waste his time caring about the opinions of people with agendas and the opinions formed by people who use their voices and media power purely for sensationalistic entertainment purposes in order to promote negativity and degrade human spirits rather than to uplift, motivate and educate with their columns.   You know, the voices that have absolutely no value to the plight of underprivileged children, or to understanding or gaining acceptance for anything "different".......maybe he doesn't have the time to worry about people who actually have a public voice, and choose to use it as a cry of desperation for themselves and not for those who actually need the help and attention.

Maybe the ladies at the "Y" could think about that before they jump all over you, mimi.   :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 13, 2008, 02:20:16 PM
i think people who can't write anything nice should just shut the hell up


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 13, 2008, 02:21:09 PM
You go Jill ..Maybe I need to take you to the Y with me tomorrow :slap  or better still how about a trip to the newspaper office? :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 13, 2008, 02:24:46 PM
I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT THIS WOMAN GOT FODDER FROM THE FOLKS WHO INSIST ON DEFENDING CLAY.  HE HAS SAID TIME AND TIME AGAIN NOT TO DEFEND HIM.  FANS HAVE TO LISTEN.

AS TO WHAT SHE THINKS ABOUT HIS PERSONAL LIFE----IT AIN'T HER DAMN BUSINESS.  I WONDER WHAT HER PERSONAL LIFE IS LIKE.

CLAY GIVES WHERE IT IS NEEDED.  HE DOES WHAT HE FEELS IS RIGHT.  AND I AM A LITTLE TIRED OF THE TURKEY BASTER THING.  THE GAY THING.  AND THE INAPPROPRIATE MICHAEL JACKSON THING.  NONE MAKE ANY SENSE.

BUT I AM NOT GONNA DEFEND HIM TO THOSE WHO COULD ONLY CARE ABOUT BASHING HIM.  THAT IS THE WAY OF THE WORLD TODAY.  BASH, BASH, BASH.  GOSSIP, BASH, GIGGLE.  MAKES ME SICK.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: IChris1 on July 13, 2008, 02:25:08 PM
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Poor Clay how do you think he must feel knowing that this is how people see him ..Disgusted & hurt ..Maybe this is why he hasn't addressed the issue..it doesn't matter what you say people will believe what they want to.I can just hear the ladies at the Y tomorrow jumping me about this one.

Considering he seems to be an intelligent, classy guy, maybe he doesn't waste his time caring about the opinions of people with agendas and the opinions formed by people who use their voices and media power purely for sensationalistic entertainment purposes in order to promote negativity and degrade human spirits rather than to uplift, motivate and educate with their columns.   You know, the voices that have absolutely no value to the plight of underprivileged children, or to understanding or gaining acceptance for anything "different".......maybe he doesn't have the time to worry about people who actually have a public voice, and choose to use it as a cry of desperation for themselves and not for those who actually need the help and attention.

Maybe the ladies at the "Y" could think about that before they jump all over you, mimi.   :hugg

I'm with you, Jill  :thumb  :clap

Mimi  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 13, 2008, 02:25:13 PM
I did find out that the News & Observer was bought recently and the owners are a company from Calif...so this may be the problem.  It seemed to have left a bad taste in their mouth in Hollywood that he did not love it there and wanted to be in NC instead, but I agree with Gwenn ..its getting OLD ,so back off all ready!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 13, 2008, 02:29:37 PM
I did find out that the News & Observer was bought recently and the owners are a company from Calif...so this may be the problem.

I READ THAT ALSO, MARLENE.  I AM THINKING THAT MOST NEWSPAPERS ARE BECOMING TABLOIDS.  THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT SELLS.  OTHER THAN THE NY TIMES AND WASHINGTON POST, I THINK MOST PAPERS ARE TRASH THESE DAYS.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: IChris1 on July 13, 2008, 02:33:18 PM
Why is it that when there is something negative printed,  people come out of the woodwork to point it out to you and try to shove it in your face?  But when there are positive things in the media, they never say anything.  I think it's a sad, negative world out there we live in.   :cry


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 13, 2008, 02:38:30 PM
I appreciate you all ...but I can't remember getting so mad about something as that article made me..would I respond to it ,NO.I wouldn't waste my time on her...What was so bad I read the article in the car on the way to church this morning(husband was driving) and I hope God will forgive me,but my mind was not to much on the sermon,but I wasn't in a very good mood after I read that drivel. :naughty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 13, 2008, 02:42:46 PM
OUR POOR CLAY WHY MUST THE TABLOIDS BE SO CRUEL :bawl


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 13, 2008, 02:43:23 PM
One woman at the Y is in love with Michael Bubel and she has always gone out of her way to try and cut Clay down to me, so far she's losing...


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 13, 2008, 02:46:08 PM
  Marlene,
 

   Are  you sure you don"t  play Clay's music  so your husband will hear it when he is asleep?
     It"s kind of brainwashing. Hey! whatever it takes.
                                                                                                    Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 13, 2008, 02:46:43 PM
Nikki  its not just tabloids, The News & Observer is our local newspaper in Raleigh,NC


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: quynn on July 13, 2008, 02:50:02 PM
You go Jill ..Maybe I need to take you to the Y with me tomorrow :slap  or better still how about a trip to the newspaper office? :bigsmile

I know you can handle those ladies, mimi!  When they start in on you, just give them a curious smile and question the value/validity they place on such mindless, juvenile drivel....then walk away with a head shake and look of pity.   :smile :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: IChris1 on July 13, 2008, 02:50:48 PM
I appreciate you all ...but I can't remember getting so mad about something as that article made me..would I respond to it ,NO.I wouldn't waste my time on her...What was so bad I read the article in the car on the way to church this morning(husband was driving) and I hope God will forgive me,but my mind was not to much on the sermon,but I wasn't in a very good mood after I read that drivel. :naughty

Mimi  :hugg

I think it made you feel so mad because it was your paper in Raleigh that printed this and you didn't expect it.  Just remember it was only one person's opinion and she does not speak for everyone in Raleigh.  I'm sure she infuriated quite a lot of fans but she's out there to get attention.  If no one gives it to her, she'll just have to go away and find someone else to pick on.  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: quynn on July 13, 2008, 02:53:04 PM
One woman at the Y is in love with Michael Bubel and she has always gone out of her way to try and cut Clay down to me, so far she's losing...

Sounds like she's feelin' a bit insecure about her guy! Poor thing.  :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 13, 2008, 02:55:30 PM
Betty, ..We do play the radio all night and I've noticed the last couple of times I have woke at night to go to the bathroom that On My Way Here is always playing when I get up..do you guess its mental telepathy? :yes


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 13, 2008, 02:58:43 PM
  Do you think if Clay were ugly they would not say all these horrible things ? I
   
   believe they are jealous of his looks, courage , talent and goodness. a man
 
   like him is beyond their comprehension.
                                                                           Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 13, 2008, 03:12:05 PM
We never hear Clay on the radio here (glad somebody else is!), but one of our stores (They may be a national chain - here they are called Stage - in Texas they are called Bealls) is playing one of Clay's songs "The Way" on a tape that is played over and over in the stores. I have heard it here in Louisiana twice, and  once in a store in Texas, too. All three times times I asked if it was a radio station, and was told that it was a tape (probably a CD).  I am sure the store purchased this to play in the store. I wonder if Clay and the other artists  make any money from the use of his music like this?  The names of the singers aren't announced - it is music only.

And the Raleigh newspaper - if I lived there or subscribed I would have to respond. There are ways to give your opinion without sounding like a crazed person. If I was spending money on that newspaper, I would have to let the Editor know that I would be spending my money elsewhere in the future.  There was a time I did spend my money on what turned out to be hate filled publications, but no more. I have cancelled several subscriptions - and I let publishers know why. I am only one voice, but my opinion matters to me!  :lol :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 13, 2008, 03:16:02 PM
OMC IS FOREVER


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 13, 2008, 03:36:39 PM
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Do you think if Clay were ugly they would not say all these horrible things ? I
   
   believe they are jealous of his looks, courage , talent and goodness. a man
 
   like him is beyond their comprehension.
                                                                           Betty

BETTY, I love your passionate posts expressing your admiration for Clay. I feel the same way as you and so many others here on CM.

Not to sound too cynical, but it seems in this day  goodness, decency, honesty and earnestness (all qualities embraced by Clay) are targets for ridicule and disdain by the mainstream media.  It takes a spiritually and emotionally strong person to continue to put himself in the public light knowing that he will get shoved around again and again.  All I can say is that Clay is a much stronger person than some of us (often including myself) give him credit for.  He will survive and if he continues to live his live in a positive manner, somewhere along the way he will be acknowledged for this.

I continue to believe that in the end goodness will triumph over evil.  Call me naive, but I still believe in the innate goodness of mankind.



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 13, 2008, 03:39:55 PM
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Considering he seems to be an intelligent, classy guy, maybe he doesn't waste his time caring about the opinions of people with agendas and the opinions formed by people who use their voices and media power purely for sensationalistic entertainment purposes in order to promote negativity and degrade human spirits rather than to uplift, motivate and educate with their columns.   You know, the voices that have absolutely no value to the plight of underprivileged children, or to understanding or gaining acceptance for anything "different".......maybe he doesn't have the time to worry about people who actually have a public voice, and choose to use it as a cry of desperation for themselves and not for those who actually need the help and attention.

Maybe the ladies at the "Y" could think about that before they jump all over you, mimi.   


Excellent points, JILL!   :clap


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 13, 2008, 04:27:50 PM


                                  yep i AGREE  WITH ALL OF YOU I JUST PRAY CLAY DOES NOT GIVE UP HIS CAREER BECAUSE OF THESE SCUM BAGS,

                                  IN THE END THEY WILL BE JUDGED FOR WHAT THEY DO HATE TO SEE WHERE THEY GO.IT WON'T BE TO HEAVEN.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 13, 2008, 04:29:01 PM

   Thea,
             Without his strength and faith I don"t think Clay could face each day.He must hurt
      some times. People seem to admire evil  but , like you ,I have to believe his day
       will come.I only hope I live long enough to see it.
                      His Mother must suffer for him too.

                                                                           Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 13, 2008, 04:34:00 PM
Just found out on another board that the columist(or whatever) that wrote the N&O editorial is syndicated.

What gets me about the N& O is that almost everytime there is a special event in Raleigh that has to do with Clay they will offer some "special edition",and will be making all these marvelous offers so you will purchase...blah! blah! blah!  How did you enjoy your special edition when Clay came to Cary ?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 13, 2008, 04:44:19 PM
On a happier note the LaLate link has a neat article up called Choice for Hollywood Hottest Body 2008 for men & women

You know me and posting links, but here goes:

     http://news.lalate.com/2008/07/12/hollywood-hottest-body-2008/


If it doesn't work then please somebody  HELP!

Also on that site on the left hand side it has several celebtries listed ,click on clay aiken and it takes you to a wonderful article about his trip to Somalia.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 13, 2008, 04:49:13 PM
Marlene, I just read the column in today's N & O.  Who is this columnist--she lives in Wilmington, NC and writes a syndicated column that appears in various papers.   I have never noticed whether the N & O has carried her column before or if it just started when they laid off so many reporters and cut the size of the paper.  Her column is probably cheaper than paying a real reporter.  The best part of it for me is that she didn't use Clay's name in the title so unless you read down through the column there was no indication it was about Clay--and I'm not sure it was, I think it was more about us trying to defend Clay.

We have got to stop answering every criticism of Clay in a paper, magazine or on board.  All it does is rile these people up and make them take more cheap shots at Clay.  We need to start ignoring these people just like Clay does and, if nobody responds to them, they may soon be out of business (or at least move on to someone else). 

I have been considering dropping the N & O because they just cut the size of the paper and went up on the price.  After this, I think I'll call them tomorrow to cancel my subscription--there isn't that much in their paper any more so it's not worth my money.

Now I'm really beginning to understand my oldest son's critique of the paper when he went to school and lived in Raleigh--his name for the paper was the "Noise and Disturber".   



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 13, 2008, 04:58:04 PM
I'm going to try this again;


   http://news.lalate.com/2008/07/12/hollywood-hottest-body-2008/


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 13, 2008, 05:02:06 PM
 :yay   I did it finally!!!! :cheer2 :wheee

Doesn't take much to make me happy. :bouncy  :shappy


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 13, 2008, 05:49:03 PM
MARLENE--I ADMIRE YOU SO MUCH FOR HOW YOU ARE DEALING.   :hugg  AS I SAID BEFORE, CLAY HAS ASKED US NOT TO DEFEND HIM.  THE SOONER THIS FANDOM DOES AS HE SAYS, THE BETTER FOR HIM.  IGNORE.  AND CANCEL IF YOU WANT.  MONEY TALKS.

THE PLAY WAS CUTE.  ER AND HER BF JUST LEFT.  I AM BLESSED THAT THIS MAN LOVES MY DAUGHTER SO MUCH AND IS SO GOOD TO HER.  IT WARMS MY SOUL.  THEA, WE ARE LUCKY.

LADIES--I LOVE HOW WE LOVE HIM.  I JUST WISH THERE WAS SOME WAY TO LET HIM KNOW WE ARE ALL NOT NUTS.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 13, 2008, 06:00:11 PM
Gwenn I was happy because my link worked..it so rarely ever does...Have you checked out the link..Can you believe they didn't pick Clay for more than just heart,like say shoulders ,butt..whoops did I say that?? :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 13, 2008, 06:11:01 PM


                                GWENN THE OTHER DAY YOU SAID I LOST MY MARBLES  :lol

        CLAY KNOWS WE ARE NOT ALL NUTS AND WE LOVE HIM,I GUESS ITS HUMAN NATURE TO WANT TO PROTECT THE ONES WE LOVE,IF I THOUGHT IT WOULD HELP I WOULD WRITE TO EVERYBODY WHO EVER DISSED HIM BUT IT WOULD NOT HELP. IMHO ,


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 13, 2008, 06:35:34 PM
LADIES--I LOVE HOW WE LOVE HIM.  I JUST WISH THERE WAS SOME WAY TO LET HIM KNOW WE ARE ALL NOT NUTS.


Yeah, that!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 13, 2008, 06:38:20 PM
Goodnight all :dust

I've about wore out my hunt & pecker (can't believe I said that either ):bigsmile

Thank you all for being the wonderful women you are. :hugg

...and never forget I LOVE CLAY AIKEN !!! :heartburst

Nite!

Marlene


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 13, 2008, 08:27:31 PM
I CAN'T GET INTO MY PM'S.....EVERY TIME I CLICK ON THE PM ON THE LEFT SIDE UNDER MY AVIE IT GOES TO A WHITE PAGE THAT SAYS;

Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 24 bytes) in /home/psb4cha/public_html/forums/Sources/Load.php on line 908

IF ANYONE IS AROUND TOMORROW IF THEY COULD SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING PLEASE.....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ILClaymate on July 13, 2008, 08:33:06 PM
I CAN'T GET INTO MY PM'S.....EVERY TIME I CLICK ON THE PM ON THE LEFT SIDE UNDER MY AVIE IT GOES TO A WHITE PAGE THAT SAYS;

Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 24 bytes) in /home/psb4cha/public_html/forums/Sources/Load.php on line 908

IF ANYONE IS AROUND TOMORROW IF THEY COULD SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING PLEASE.....

Dudley ~ did this just start happening?  We are aware of another member who is having this problem also.  I'll let Michael know.  Thanks for telling us.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 14, 2008, 03:25:28 AM
i haven't been aloud in my pms either


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 14, 2008, 03:43:38 AM
i keep watching videos from the jnt05 omg omc looks so sexy in  that white suit


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ILClaymate on July 14, 2008, 06:12:20 AM
i haven't been aloud in my pms either

Are you getting the same message as what Dudley posted above?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 14, 2008, 06:18:28 AM
MORNING--

NOT MUCH TO SAY BUT HELLO.  IT FEELS LIKE IT IS GONNA BE A VERY QUIET DAY HERE.  I HOPE I AM WRONG.

DOING WASH. PHONE CALLS TO MAKE.  MAH JONGG TONIGHT. 

WONDER WHAT CLAY IS DOING"=?

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 14, 2008, 06:41:37 AM
Good morning, dear CM'ers!  :wave

Not much going on here either.  P is leaving to go back to his home in CA in about 10 minutes.  Phil and I are moping around as we watch him gleefully pack up his car (why he decided to drive all that way is beyond me!  :lol  :bduh) 

It takes us about a day to get over our "empty nest blues" and then we're usually quite content to get back into our little rut!   :hypno

This morning I have to go to the oncologist for my routine checkup.  Oy, more fun.  :dancingparty

Clay, today is a great day to announce a fall tour!   :please

Enjoy your day, ladies, whatever you're up to!  :ghug




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: quynn on July 14, 2008, 06:54:01 AM
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This morning I have to go to the oncologist for my routine checkup.  Oy, more fun.

Good luck, Thea!   :cross :hugg

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Clay, today is a great day to announce a fall tour!  :please 


 :yeahthat


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 14, 2008, 07:04:26 AM
Dudley ~ did this just start happening?  We are aware of another member who is having this problem also.  I'll let Michael know.  Thanks for telling us.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WHEN I TRIED TO GET IN....BUT FOR WEEKS NOW I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET PAST MY FIRST PAGE IN MY PM'S....IT WOULD SAY THE SAME THING AS ABOVE WHEN I WOULD TRY TO GOT TO THE NEXT PAGE....I WAS TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP AND IT WOULDN'T LET ME SEE MORE THAN THE FIRST PAGE SO I JUST GAVE UP......


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Ashes on July 14, 2008, 08:07:39 AM

LADIES--I LOVE HOW WE LOVE HIM.  I JUST WISH THERE WAS SOME WAY TO LET HIM KNOW WE ARE ALL NOT NUTS.

GWENN

 :yeahthat

 :wave Happy Monday to all ClayManiacs. I'm addicted to the Monday News here. Even though you don't often see me, I'm here following up links on the page and peeking in various forums. It's always a treat to visit here  :hugs

Many thanks to all of you visiting my Clay-The Man Blogspot (http://ashes-clay-theman.blogspot.com/)!

Ashes
:clayfan


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 14, 2008, 08:36:26 AM
WELL, FOLKS.  I THINK I HAVE A PER DIEM JOB AS A TRAINER FOR A BOOK COMPANY!!!!!!!!!  I DON'T KNOW QUITE HOW THIS WORKS, BUT I AM EXCITED.  GIVES ME SOMETHING TO KEEP MY MIND ACTIVE AND IN EDUCATION WITHOUT HAVING TO DEAL WITH CRAZY KIDS.  CROSSING MY FINGERS THAT IT WORKS OUT FOR ME.

CLAY CONTENT---HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE A TOUR  SOMETIME AND I WILL HAVE MONEY FOR IT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 14, 2008, 08:55:22 AM

     Thea,
              I pray all will be good  with your check up at the oncologists.
    Wishes for a safe journey for your son. I guess he just prefers to drive.
         
                                               Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 14, 2008, 08:58:57 AM

   Gwen,
             I hope the new job works out for you. It will keep you out of mischief, Maybe!!!!

          It could be a sign you are going to need money for a tour soon. Not Clay"s soon!!!!
                                         
                                                   Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 14, 2008, 09:01:43 AM
THANKS, BETTY AND MAINER.

THEA---GOOD LUCK SWEETIE.   :hugg

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: quynn on July 14, 2008, 09:20:39 AM
GWENN.... :congrats2

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I hope the new job works out for you. It will keep you out of mischief, Maybe!!!!

BWAH!  Good one, Betty!   :lol :wink

 :hi Ashes  Nice of you stop by.



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 14, 2008, 09:41:12 AM
 :wave

I'm at the office paying bills and consolidating checkbooks - at least I am out of the construction zone! Our existing hot water heater went out this weekend  :bang It just couldn't wait until it was time to install the new one! At least nothing was hurt when the water started to pour - the floors were already stripped down to concrete! :clap

Have a good checkup, Thea!

Gwenn - sounds like an interesting job - hope you get it and will enjoy it.

Ashes - I love your Blog!

I read the N & O article - can't wait until they contact me again trying to sell another Clay special issue! They can't alllow a writer to slam him like that and then try to turn around and make money off of him! That woman just slapped anyone with fertility problems in the face - I am sick of the turkey baster comments! I worked in a womens' clinic for many years - not being able to conceive a child is no joke.

Clay Content - I miss Clay - hope he is having some rest and fun, though!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 14, 2008, 09:42:07 AM
Gwenn, wonderful news about the job!   :purpbana  They're lucky to get you.

Thea best of luck on you doctor's appointment.  I know you'll pass with flying colors.

I had some catching up to do this morning.  The article in the News & Observer by the wicked witch of the east/west wherever she's from should be ignored.  The reason these people (I use the term lightly) continue to bash Clay is because "we" give them reason to.  We respond.  The best way to handle this is to cancel your subscription or not buy the paper.  Don't give them any hits on the internet.  Responding only lets them know that their articles are getting read.  Ignore, and eventually they'll move on.  It may take a while, but it will happen.  

I don't think Clay loses any sleep over what is said in a tabloid about him.  At least, I hope not.  While it's nasty and vile, I believe most folks realize the fabrications.  If they don't, they deserve to be lied to.....read my siggie.  

What I do find appalling is that there virtually is no legitimate journalism in our country anymore.  What a sad state we're in!  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Moonshot on July 14, 2008, 09:43:27 AM
Congrats on the job, Gwenn!

Well, I just got an e-mail from my supervisor regarding time-off. Requests for Nov. and Dec. time-off have to be in by July 31st :eek With no Christmas tour news I have no idea if and when I'll need time-off!

I also found out today I won't be getting the A/C fixed in my car anytime soon. :bang When they did the initial diagnostic they said the system just needed to be evac-ed and recharged with freon. My sister gave me the $200 to get this done. When they evac-ed the system (what this is I've no clue) today they found leaks in the manifold, etc. $1200 worth of work :jaw :eek :bduh

This is a reputable place that I know isn't just yanking my chain and the car is a '98 so I know stuff is going to happen. It looks like no A/C for me! My first car I had for 8 years, the last 2 of which I went without A/C...in Florida. So I'm no stranger to early morning errands and driving with the windows down. It's a hassle but hey, I'm just blessed I have a car!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Moonshot on July 14, 2008, 09:44:40 AM
Around these here parts the News & Observer is known as the Noise & Disturber. Fairly accurate description I'd say.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 14, 2008, 10:29:25 AM
Michelle, let me pass along one of these.   :hugg  Maybe you could drive nekkid.  You may get "someone's" attention.   :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 14, 2008, 10:54:41 AM
THANKS, EVERYONE.   :ghug

I AM GIVING THE N & O NO MORE THOUGHT. 

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That woman just slapped anyone with fertility problems in the face - I am sick of the turkey baster comments! I worked in a womens' clinic for many years - not being able to conceive a child is no joke.

THIS IS THE PART OF THE WHOLE TABLOID CRAP THAT UPSETS ME THE MOST.  I FEEL SO BADLY FOR ANYONE HAVING THOSE ISSUES.  WE DID.  IT ALMOST DESTROYED OUT MARRIAGE.  IT IS NO JOKE.  ER IS THE BIGGEST MIRACLE AND BLESSING I COULD HOPE FOR.  HOW DARE THESE RAGS MAKE COMMENTS ON ISSUES THAT ARE SO HEART WRENCHING AND PERSONAL.  WHAT I FEEL ABOUT JAYMES OR THIS DECISION IS NOT THE ISSUE.  IT IS THE BASHING OF PERSONAL STUFF.  IT JUST ISN'T RIGHT TO MAKE FUN OF PAIN.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 14, 2008, 11:05:24 AM
I'm just ignoring these stupid people. Ridiculous for them to talk about someone they know nothing about. Who are they to judge? And unfortunately they lurk on our boards. I've found that out the hard way too. One is using a pic of me and my friends from NAT in his Idol hating blog.  :bang

Ashes -  :wave Love your blog!

Thea - I hope all is well with your checkup.  :hugg

Michelle -  :hypno I cannot live without my AC. My car is like a roaster without it. It isn't supposed to be below 93 this week at all.

Gwenn - Hope it works out and you the job.

I guess I better head back to work. My 3 year old nephew was in the hospital this weekend with stitches in his forehead and a staph infection and got out yesterday. He's a little sore, but recovering okay for now. So my sister called this morning and left a voicemail to call back ASAP. My 2 year old nephew has an abcess and the doctor made him an appt to see a Pediatric surgeon this afternoon. All this, and my sister is due with baby #5 next month.  :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 14, 2008, 11:24:48 AM
   Meesa,
                  I"m so sorry your little nephew has an abcess, they can be very painful.
          Your sister is having a hard time right now it's good she has you to turn to.
                                                       
                                                       Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 14, 2008, 11:33:04 AM
GWENN - CONGRATS ON THE NEW JOB!!!!!  IT SOUNDS GREAT!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 14, 2008, 11:34:38 AM
Hi Yas...  :wave

Want to walk down memory lane?  Darling guy/hilarious commentary...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vs1pbKw0-dI

Congrats Gwenn on the training gig!...What subject area will you be working in?...and is the textbook for junior high...?  Sounds like a fabulous opportunity!

BTW...I met Faye at a gathering on May 2.  We had a bon voyage brunch for the BAF out here.  I had the opportunity to chat with her...she had tried out a new color for her hair...darker than the blonde...so that invited a 'beauty' discussion...no, she had not been a redhead too - ahem my off the cuff Q for her  :notworthy  :bduh... she is such a geniune, unpretentious person...absolutely easy to be with...she shared how touched she was by the friendly, affectionate bond she observed between we Clay fans.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 14, 2008, 12:42:46 PM
yep the stupid fatal error message that won't let me in my pm box


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 14, 2008, 02:12:55 PM
AWWWW, thank you for the good wishes, ladies!   Oncologist appt. went fine.......palpation exam  :eek and bloodwork all within normal range.  He did have some concern about possible blood clots in my legs, though, so I am going in for a "Doppler Ultrasound" tomorrow evening just to check things out.  I told him he had to take care of business before August when we go on our cruise!  

GWENN, the trainer position at a book company sounds like an exciting opportunity.  It's obvious you are a natural teacher, so teaching without dealing with the kiddie discipline problems should be enjoyable!  Kudos for striving to keep your mind active.  

JOHANNA, Faye sounds like a very approachable, gracious lady. I can see you striking up a conversation with her.  You're a great conversationalist yourself!   I remember having an opportunity to meet her a few years ago at the Raleigh NAT, but I chickened out at the last minute.  At the time I was feeling too ashamed of my lustful feelings towards him to actually look his mother in the eye.   :para :blush  But  I'm so jaded by now  that it wouldn't phase me in the least to speak to her.   :bduh :lol

MICHELLE, I'm sorry to hear about your car air conditioning problem.  But I'm not at all surprised by your good attitude!  :clap :hugg

Speaking of "active".....Is Clay just "chilling" at home or his he actively planning his future (which I'm hoping includes a tour this fall or Christmas).

I asked Son and future DIL if we could play "Something About Us" as one of the wedding dance songs and they said "Thanks, but we'll pass on that".  Oy, narrowmindedness annoys me.  :bang

OK, time for a few zzz's..   :nap


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 14, 2008, 02:37:52 PM
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I read the N & O article - can't wait until they contact me again trying to sell another Clay special issue! They can't alllow a writer to slam him like that and then try to turn around and make money off of him! That woman just slapped anyone with fertility problems in the face - I am sick of the turkey baster comments! I worked in a womens' clinic for many years - not being able to conceive a child is no joke.

 :word FRANKIE.  And GWENN, I can't begin to imagine the pain and heartache that goes along with difficulty in conceiving.  :comfort There are certain things that should remain sacred and NOT become the topic of media and esp. late night talk show hosts' jokes. 

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Michelle, let me pass along one of these.     Maybe you could drive nekkid.  You may get "someone's" attention.   


 :lmao MICKI.  And why not?  NYC has "The Naked Cowboy"....so Raleigh could have "The Nekked Claygirl".... (Sorry, MICHELLE, couldn't resist that one.   :para)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Moonshot on July 14, 2008, 03:02:45 PM
:lmao MICKI.  And why not?  NYC has "The Naked Cowboy"....so Raleigh could have "The Nekked Claygirl".... (Sorry, MICHELLE, couldn't resist that one.   :para)

Well, that would be one way to resolve Raleigh's blooming overcrowding problem...there'd be a mass exodus!  :lol


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Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 14, 2008, 03:09:08 PM
what are you talking about


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Post by: lovinclay on July 14, 2008, 04:33:52 PM
Jimmy Kimmel and Sarah Silverman have split.



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Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 14, 2008, 05:28:06 PM
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Jimmy Kimmel and Sarah Silverman have split.

MICKI, I saw that and the first think I thought about was the child they had together not too long ago.  I hope it was an amicable split for the sake of the baby.



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 14, 2008, 05:32:02 PM
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:lmao MICKI.  And why not?  NYC has "The Naked Cowboy"....so Raleigh could have "The Nekked Claygirl".... (Sorry, MICHELLE, couldn't resist that one.   )


Well, that would be one way to resolve Raleigh's blooming overcrowding problem...there'd be a mass exodus!  :lol

 :lmao And then maybe the mayor would give you a key to the city for your civic contribution!  Just think....then you could be on the front page of your favorite newspaper, The Raleigh News and Observer.  That would certain catch Clay's eye!

See?  Becoming The Nekked Claygirl of Raleigh would have it's perks, eh?   :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 14, 2008, 05:46:37 PM



                                        THEA. :lmao :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 14, 2008, 06:08:08 PM
MICKI, I saw that and the first think I thought about was the child they had together not too long ago.  I hope it was an amicable split for the sake of the baby.

They have a baby? Oh my.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 14, 2008, 06:10:03 PM
NYC has "The Naked Cowboy"....so Raleigh could have "The Nekked Claygirl".... (Sorry, MICHELLE, couldn't resist that one.   :para)

Woo hoo! I say Go for it, Moonie! :cheer


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Moonshot on July 14, 2008, 06:13:43 PM
Woo hoo! I say Go for it, Moonie! :cheer


:scratch Hmmm.

I have been looking for a way to supplement my income... :shrug


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 14, 2008, 06:14:14 PM
Gwenn - Congratulations and good luck on the job

Thea - I'm so glad your test results were good and here's hoping that the problem they did find will be taken care of with medication.  

Michelle - Been there, done that.  I had a car a few years back that the AC went bad in and I couldn't see spending what they wanted to fix it.  I drove it a few more years and when I traded it the salesman asked me if it had an AC.  My answer "yes" because he just asked me if it had an AC, not did it work.  It's not what you say but how you say it.   :bigsmile

I'm also in the same boat regarding vacation.  I have saved some time in case I needed it for Clay and I don't know whether I'll need it or not.

Meesa - Glad your nephew is doing better.


I am trying to get ready for my trip to Texas on Saturday so that entailed going to the Urgent Care tonight after work.  For several days I have been dizzy and out of breath so I thought I should get it checked out before I got on a plane.  The good news is that everything is A-OK but when I asked the doctor what was making me feel like that, he had no idea.  That was certainly a waste of three hours.  Of course, the problem  wouldn't have been like that if my doctor wasn't on vacation for three weeks.  I must be paying him too much.   :lol

Clay content -- doctor said my heart is strong - so come on, Clay, and plan a tour.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 14, 2008, 06:21:19 PM
umm what


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Post by: Moonshot on July 14, 2008, 06:23:38 PM
umm what

:scratch what about what?


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Post by: claydevotee on July 14, 2008, 06:28:29 PM
:scratch what about what?

I'm wondering the same thing!!! Could you please clarify your question, CA ISHOT? 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 14, 2008, 07:06:31 PM
someone said something about nekked claygirl what the hell are they talking about


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Post by: Moonshot on July 14, 2008, 07:12:12 PM
someone said something about nekked claygirl what the hell are they talking about

It's called a joke. If you go back through the conversation and follow along you'll see it's a crack at me because I don't have A/C in my car:

I started with this post -

I also found out today I won't be getting the A/C fixed in my car anytime soon.

then lovinclay/Micki responded to me with this post -

Michelle, let me pass along one of these.   :hugg  Maybe you could drive nekkid.  You may get "someone's" attention.   :lol

then claydevotee/Thea expanded on that response with this post -

NYC has "The Naked Cowboy"....so Raleigh could have "The Nekked Claygirl".... (Sorry, MICHELLE, couldn't resist that one.   :para)

and that is where Nekkid Claygirl came from.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 14, 2008, 07:29:33 PM
 :wave

Just a quick check in - had to quickly scan your posts in case any of you had been with Clay!  :lol (I would have hated to miss that!)

Michelle - sorry about your car air conditioner - I know y'all have been having really hot weather up there, too.

I agree about not getting into a fight with a newspaper  (if I subscribed, I would still cancel my subscription, though!) - I came across the N & O article searching for ANN News last night - and the writer had gotten several responses from people defending her because she had been "attacked" by "Crazy Claymates"  :bang It's bad enough for her to have written the original article - then she had to turn around and write another article because Clay fans wrote her and disagreed. I still cannot imagine why a newspaper in Clay's own home town would not support him  :bduh

See all of you tomorrow!



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 14, 2008, 07:32:44 PM
BACK FROM MAH JONGG.  I DID OK.  IT WAS FUN.

MICHELLE---NEKKID CLAYGIRL IS GOOD.   :lmao :lmao :lmao  MAKE YOURSELF FAMOUS AND THE N & O WILL DO A NASTY COLUMN ON YOU.

THEA--GREAT NEWS.  YOUR LEGS WILL BE FINE ALSO.  I KNOW IT.

I WOULD DIE WITHOUT AIR IN THE CAR.  OR ANYWHERE.  I CANNOT STAND THE HEAT.  I GET SOOOOOO DIZZY, ETC.  THAT IS THE ONLY REASON I NEVER WENT TO CARY FOR A CONCERT.  I CANNOT STAND SWEATING AND I DO THAT VERY WELL.   :slick

BUT THE BEST---JILL IS COMING TO VISIT FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS. :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana

THANKS AGAIN FOR THE WELL WISHES.  I HOPE I LIKE IT.  BUT, THE GOOD THING IS THAT IF I DON'T, I CAN QUIT.   :clap :clap :clap :clap

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 14, 2008, 07:35:15 PM
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someone said something about nekked claygirl what the hell are they talking about

CAISHOT, as I posted to you the other day, here on Critical Mass we often speak "tongue in cheek" and use innuendos as we banter back and forth. As MOONSHOT just posted to you, we like to joke around here as well as discuss serious topics about Clay.   And we try very hard to not use any four-letter words in our posts. .  Perhaps you might be more comfortable on another thread here on Claymaniacs?   :wink  

GWENN, you and JILL will have a great visit together.  Time to initiate the new guest room!!!!   :clap

Clay content:  I wonder if Clay has ever played mah jongg???  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 14, 2008, 07:49:39 PM
THANK YOU THEA.......


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 14, 2008, 07:53:38 PM
LINDA---I LOVE YOUR AVI.  LIKE LOTS.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 14, 2008, 07:57:52 PM

                                             I LOVE ALL OF YOU LIKE LOTS. :hugg :hugg

                            DELETE IS BECOMING A GOOD FRIEND I THINK I SHOULD THINK MORE BEFORE I TYPE, NOW DON'T ALL AGREE AT ONCE :lol

                                 I AM QUOTING CLAY SOMETIMES THINGS COME OUT OF MY MOUTH BEFORE THEY GO THROUGH MY BRAIN. :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 14, 2008, 08:00:55 PM


                                             I LOVE ALL OF YOU LIKE LOTS.

 :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg :hugg

GWENN


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Post by: claydevotee on July 14, 2008, 08:04:51 PM
 
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I LOVE ALL OF YOU LIKE LOTS. 


Back atcha, MS GLORY!  We've got a good thing going on here on CM, ladies!!!  Let's stay positive, OK?   :ghug2

And you're most welcome, LINDA!   :wink

'Night all!  :dust



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Post by: Glory on July 14, 2008, 08:35:21 PM



                           I LOVE POSITIVE THEA. CLAY WILL BE BACK SOON ,I WILL DECIDE WHAT TO DO SOON.I WILL WIN THE LOTTERY SOON.I WILL BUY GROCERIES SOON, THERE WILL BE A CONCERT SOON.MAYBE.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lorilovesgolf on July 15, 2008, 04:44:55 AM
Hi all  :wave  Been awhile since I've been on!!

Thea - I read the articles about Jimmy Kimmel and his GF breaking up but none of them mentioned a baby.  Only said they were together for 5 years.  Where did you see they had a baby?

Clay content:  Where oh where are you and when are you touring???  Miss the guy a bunch!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 15, 2008, 05:32:21 AM
 :wave  Good morning!

dudley - good to see you here - hope you are feeling well.  :hugg

WilsonClaymate - hope your trip to the doctor helped (even though he had no idea waht was wrong!), and that you will be able to make the trip to Texas. It's hot down here - pack cool clothes!

Have a great day, everybody - hope Clay will come out of hiding today. Glory - I wish I was in your positive mood - but I am working on it!  :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 15, 2008, 06:30:48 AM
LINDA---I LOVE YOUR AVI.  LIKE LOTS.

GWENN

ME TOO  :bigsmile


STILL CAN'T GET INTO MY INBOX TO READ MY PM'S  :bang  :bang  :bang


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 15, 2008, 06:41:31 AM
:wave  Good morning!

dudley - good to see you here - hope you are feeling well.  :hugg



AM FEELING AS WELL AS I THINK I WILL EVER BE AGAIN....GOT THE RESULTS BACK FROM THE MAYO LAST THURS.....I HAVE A LUNG DISEASE THAT IS NOT REVERSABLE ONLY CONTROLABLE AND SMALL BLOOD CLOTS IN THE VESSELS IN MY LUNGS  :bang  ....AND IT IS THE KIND OF LUNG DISEASE THAT ISN'T NORMALLY SEEN IN PEOPLE THAT HAVE SMOKED  :hypno ......AM GOING FOR MORE BLOOD WORK THIS MORNING.....A DR APPT IN THE MORNING....AND BACK TO THE HOSP FOR MORE TESTS THURS MORNING AND ANOTHER DR APPT THURS AFTERNOON......I AM GETTING TO BE ON A FIRST NAME BASIS WITH THE HOSPITAL PEOPLE  :bang  .... BUT IT COULD BE WORSE.....IT ISN'T THE DISEASE THAT KILLS PEOPLE.....JUST MAKES A DRAMATIC LIFE CHANGING EVENT THAT I CAN'T DO MUCH OF ANYTHING ANYMORE EVEN THOUGH I TRY EVERY DAY......

JUST WAITING FOR  A TOUR ANNOUNCEMENT TO SEE WHAT HUBBY SAYS WHEN I SAY I WANT TO FLY OFF TO SOMEPLACE  :lol .....BOZENA SAID SHE WILL TAKE ME TO ANY CONCERT I WANT TO GO TO AND SEE THAT I GET BACK HOME SAFE AND IN ONE PIECE  :hugg  :hugg ......AND THANK YOU FOR THE CARDS YOU ALL HAVE BEEN SENDING ME.....I DON'T LIKE TO SAY EACH PERSON JUST A BIG OLE 'THANK YA' TO ALL.....

CARRY ON .....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 15, 2008, 07:27:22 AM
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Thea - I read the articles about Jimmy Kimmel and his GF breaking up but none of them mentioned a baby.  Only said they were together for 5 years.  Where did you see they had a baby?

 :wave LORA and everybody!!!   I'm checking in a bit later than usual.  In answer to Lora's question, I'm pretty sure I heard about Jimmy and his GF having a baby a couple of years ago.  I'll do some investigating.   If there isn't a Kimmel baby, then this is a prime example of how rumors get started. And in that case, I apologize for spreading misinformation! 

 'Back in a little bit!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 15, 2008, 07:28:27 AM
Linda    :hugg

We're all hoping for some kind of tour this year.  Maybe a short Christmas one?  

What a good friend Bozena is!  I'm in the same boat.  For the most part, I need to rely on others whenever I venture out.  Asking for help is hard at first, but I've been blessed with wonderful family and friends.  So....maybe I'll see you when Clay decides to surface again.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 15, 2008, 07:32:32 AM
MORNING ALL--

GORGEOUS DAY HERE.  LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING JILL IN A FEW HOURS.   :clap :purpbana :bigsmile

LINDA--- :hugg AND GOOD THOUGHTS.  YOU ARE A STRONG LADY.  AND BOZENA IS A GOOD FRIEND. :hugg

BEEN THINKING A LOT ABOUT TOURING.  I DON'T THINK CLAY WILL TOUR FOR THIS CD UNTIL NEXT YEAR SOME TIME.  I THINK THE MOST WE CAN HOPE FOR IS SOME CHRISTMAS STUFF.  I AM THINKING A FEW CONCERTS.  I ALSO THINK HE IS GONNA DO WHAT KELLY DID AND TOUR WITH SOMEONE WITH A BIGGER NAME.  I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA, BUT IT IS A WAY TO INCREASE HIS FANBASE.  IT SEEMS LIKE LOTS OF ENTERTAINERS ARE DOING THIS.  IT IS COST AFFECTIVE.  KELLY IS PRETTY BIG AND SHE SEEMS TO THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA.  NOW CLAY NEEDS TO FIND HIS REBA.  I HAVE NO IDEA WHO.  I JUST HOPE THAT WHEN HE DOES, IT IS SOMEONE I CAN STAND TO LISTEN TO.  RIGHT NOW, THE TOURS THAT SELL THE BEST ARE THE ONES FOR KIDS LIKE JONAS BROTHERS   :bang OR COUNTRY LIKE KENNY CHESNEY OR TIM AND FAITH.  I AM LEANING TOWARDS SOMEONE IN COUNTRY FOR HIM TO TOUR WITH.  I HAVEN'T QUITE FIGURED OUT WHO YET.  BUT THEN, I NEVER WOULD HAVE FIGURED KELLY AND REBA AND THAT HAS BEEN LIFE ALTERING AND CAREER ALTERING FOR KELLY.  AS LONG AS HE DOESN'T DISAPPEAR, I WILL BE HAPPY.  THE ALTERNATIVE IS JUST TOO SCARY TO ME.

GOTTA STRAIGHTEN UP AND GET DRESSED. 

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 15, 2008, 07:38:15 AM
I'm back from some internet "sleuthing" red-faced as can be.  No baby from the Kimmel/Silverman relationship.  OY, I deserve 50 lashes with a wet noodle.  I shall now assume the position.... :spank2

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.....BOZENA SAID SHE WILL TAKE ME TO ANY CONCERT I WANT TO GO TO AND SEE THAT I GET BACK HOME SAFE AND IN ONE PIECE   

LINDA, that sounds like our BOZENA.  She is a class act, for sure.  'Always reaching out to others quietly and not asking for any recognition!  :clap

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BEEN THINKING A LOT ABOUT TOURING.  I DON'T THINK CLAY WILL TOUR FOR THIS CD UNTIL NEXT YEAR SOME TIME.  I THINK THE MOST WE CAN HOPE FOR IS SOME CHRISTMAS STUFF.  I AM THINKING A FEW CONCERTS.  I ALSO THINK HE IS GONNA DO WHAT KELLY DID AND TOUR WITH SOMEONE WITH A BIGGER NAME.  I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA, BUT IT IS A WAY TO INCREASE HIS FANBASE.  IT SEEMS LIKE LOTS OF ENTERTAINERS ARE DOING THIS.  IT IS COST AFFECTIVE.  KELLY IS PRETTY BIG AND SHE SEEMS TO THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA.  NOW CLAY NEEDS TO FIND HIS REBA.  I HAVE NO IDEA WHO.  I JUST HOPE THAT WHEN HE DOES, IT IS SOMEONE I CAN STAND TO LISTEN TO.  RIGHT NOW, THE TOURS THAT SELL THE BEST ARE THE ONES FOR KIDS LIKE JONAS BROTHERS    OR COUNTRY LIKE KENNY CHESNEY OR TIM AND FAITH.  I AM LEANING TOWARDS SOMEONE IN COUNTRY FOR HIM TO TOUR WITH.  I HAVEN'T QUITE FIGURED OUT WHO YET.  BUT THEN, I NEVER WOULD HAVE FIGURED KELLY AND REBA AND THAT HAS BEEN LIFE ALTERING AND CAREER ALTERING FOR KELLY.  AS LONG AS HE DOESN'T DISAPPEAR, I WILL BE HAPPY.  THE ALTERNATIVE IS JUST TOO SCARY TO ME.

 :yeahthat :word :clap MS GWENN!






Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 15, 2008, 07:42:23 AM
Maybe he'll tour with Mylie Cyrus.    :para :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 15, 2008, 07:44:25 AM
Maybe he'll tour with Mylie Cyrus.    :para :lmao

 :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

WELL, IF BILLY RAY IS THERE, IT COMBINES BOTH LITTLE KIDS AND COUNTRY.  COULD YOU JUST IMAGINE??????????? :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 15, 2008, 07:59:18 AM
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Maybe he'll tour with Mylie Cyrus.     


MICKI, if that were to happen the rumor mill would be on overload, for sure!!!!  :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 15, 2008, 08:23:04 AM
Hope the opinions of "drop-ins" are still welcome. 

First off, I miss Clay like crazy . . . .  It seems weird without summer concerts. :para

On the topic of touring  ~ James Blunt, who had built up a large fan base and sold loads of CD's about 2 years ago with his "Back to Bedlam" CD was doing solo concerts.  I personally like his 2nd CD, but have no idea how the sales were.  Anyhow, I read that he is the opening act for (I believe) Sheryl Crowe.  So,  some singers are teaming up with very established stars on the concert tour to boost their fan base.

I, like so many of Clay's fans, would prefer "just Clay", but I could certainly accept that concept.  It would expose him to concert goers who would probably never see him on stage otherwise and hopefully expand his fanbase.  ALSO, I would almost kill to hear the songs from On My Way Here sung to us by Clay from a stage with a band!  Those songs just HAVE to be heard. 

GWENN - I think you are right.  Except for (perhaps) a Christmas tour . . .  I would be amazed (and delighted) to hear of an earlier tour. Again, I am no expert on these things, but I know that Josh Groban's tour to promote "Awake" started quite a length of time after that CD dropped. 

Right now, I have a nagging feeling that we may be waiting a whole lot longer than we first anticipated.  I will be happy if I am proven wrong. Hopefully, any delay is because of another career project in the works.  I want to stay positive on what is in store regarding Clay's career.  Some days . . . I actually can pull it off.  :blush

I always read everyone's opinions and observations here at CM.  WOW - some great posts have landed here.  :clap Since I'm not usually free to use my computer at work, I haven't been around to respond.  But I do have my own opinions . . and I hope to stop in here when I can.




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 15, 2008, 08:29:54 AM
A little tour would be nice- him staying in one area and doing five shows, then moving to another area, etc. etc. But also doing them all across the country.
Dontcha think?

And I want him to tour with Keith Urban or Tim McGraw (even though I am not a fond country music aficionado)

How about Colbie Caillat?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 15, 2008, 08:41:52 AM
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And I want him to tour with Keith Urban or Tim McGraw (even though I am not a fond country music aficionado)

How about Colbie Caillat?

MARILYN, I especially like the idea of a tour with Colbie Caillat.  I don't know a lot about her or her music, but I've noticed she has an AC chart-topper right now...so I think that would possibly be a good fit.

My second choice would be Keith Urban.  As to Faith and Tim McGraw, I'm afraid that might be a little too "rough" of a crowd for Clay.  JMHO.

As to the location of a tour...I vote for "On My Way Here in the Heartland"!    :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 15, 2008, 08:49:07 AM
I'd perfer On My Way Here anywhere!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 15, 2008, 08:53:10 AM
BOY, AM I OUT OF IT.  I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THIS COLBIE IS AT ALL. :bduh 

I WOULD KILL FOR CLAY TO TOUR WITH KEITH URBAN.  BUT I THINK CARRIE UNDERWOOD IS.  IF NOT NOW, SHE DEFINITELY WAS.  I THINK TIM AND FAITH TOUR ALONE.  MAYBE MARTINA MCBRIDE?  HE LOVES HER. 

BARB--STOP IN MORE OFTEN.  I LOVE TO READ WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 15, 2008, 09:11:41 AM
Unless Clay can get a sponsor (which I think he'll have a problem doing), I don't think we'll get a tour with a band, set, etc. like the NAT, unless he tours with someone else.  The cost for roadies, tractor trailers, additional buses, feeding everyone, etc. is huge.  I doubt he has the funds for that type of project on his own.  I believe that's why we've been getting symphony tours.  They're much cheaper.

I really don't want Clay to open for anyone, but sharing the headlining like with the IT would be nice.  In any case, I'm not expecting a tour for On My Way Here before next summer.  I sure hope he has something else in the works (besides a baby, IIT  :smile) sometime soon. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 15, 2008, 10:02:48 AM
Howdy CMers.... :wave

Now that my summer travel is almost complete, I'm sure missing Clay more than ever...and am hopeful that he continues wearing that bright smile he displayed in the Unicef pics...oh my!

Prayers for Meesa's family, in thanksgiving for you dear Thea, for Dudley, Bozena, and how about you Glory...are you back to your healthy, fiesty self yet, girl?

Yep...Clay has said time and again how much he loves Martina...I vote for her...he's also mentioned Faith Hill...they'd be fantastic together...me, I love Keith Urban...and I fell asleep last night while watching Leno and woke up to Kenny Chesney's Better than a Memory...that is one gorgeous track, do listen to it if you can.

Sending Jimmy some good wishes...he's a sweet guy...so sorry his relationship broke up...they are certainly hard to maintain..kudos to those of you who have managed to stay in them long term.

Finally got acquainted a bit with a wonderful man on my travels...he's married to a dear relative of mine, I rarely see.  She's a perfect wife for him...and it's not been a cakewalk.  It's been awhile since I met anyone who I even remotely had the potential to resonate with deeply (he's very spiritual...a brilliant neuropsychiatrist)...at least I know that " I Ain't Dead Yet"...!!  :blush
Think I'll go order one of those shirts at the Spamalot site.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 15, 2008, 10:13:03 AM
JOHANNA, thank you for your prayers.   :hugg

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Yep...Clay has said time and again how much he loves Martina...I vote for her
Martina McBride...Hmmmm, I never even thought of that, JOHANNA.  IMO that has the potential for being a very well-balanced tour.  By that I mean I think the audience would be extremely receptive to both performers.  And then maybe they could end the show with that duet  with Martina Clay has talked about???

Anyway, I really like that idea.  And I appreciate the diversity of opinions expressed here.  I've always believed that the mark of a good friendship is that the other person inspires you to become a better person in every way.  My ability to express myself and to be willing to listen to and integrate different points of view into mine has grown exponentially since I landed back here.  Thank you!   :ghug2

Time to get on with some more projects.....TTYL.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dolphinluver on July 15, 2008, 11:10:37 AM
WISH there was a way to get the message to Clay that we really want and need to hear the songs from On My Way Here live...they are so good recored but would be "extraordinary" coming straight from that body.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 15, 2008, 11:39:24 AM
I am ready for a Tour, too, but I will be shocked if Clay does anything but a Christmas Tour this year - and if he does that, I think it will be very limited - don't know why I think that, but I do.

 So many Pop and former Rock stars are making their way to Nashville (even Bon Jovi!) That is one place on earth that decent music (that you can allow children to hear) is still being made. Clay was raised on country music - I think Martina McBride would be an excellent choice - we could use a hit duet!

dudley - your husband can't stand up to Bozena  :lmao so even if he thinks you should not travel, I know I will see you at the next concert!  :lol :hugg Hope your condition is maintained well with medication, and that this week's doctor and hospital visits turn out well.

Have been running construction errands today - carpenters have moved from the new addition into this part of the house (hanging sheet rock), so the dogs and I might excape to the office  - had to check in here first to see if Clay had surfaced.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on July 15, 2008, 12:00:43 PM
NEW SUNBURN TREATMENT

Dear friends,
This sounds like a good procedure to relieve the pain.
A guy fell asleep on the beach for several
hours and got horrible sunburn, specifically to his upper legs.
He went to the hospital, and was promptly
admitted after being diagnosed with second-degree burns.
With his skin already starting to blister, and
the severe pain he was in, the doctor prescribed continuous
intravenous feeding with saline, electrolytes, a sedative, and a
Viagra pill every four hours.
The nurse, who was rather astounded, asked,
'What good will Viagra do for him, doctor'?
The doctor replied, 'It won't do anything for
his condition, but it'll keep the sheets off his legs.'  



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 15, 2008, 12:19:37 PM
Now that's funny!    :lmao :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Petjen on July 15, 2008, 12:22:44 PM
NEW SUNBURN TREATMENT

Dear friends,
This sounds like a good procedure to relieve the pain.
A guy fell asleep on the beach for several
hours and got horrible sunburn, specifically to his upper legs.
He went to the hospital, and was promptly
admitted after being diagnosed with second-degree burns.
With his skin already starting to blister, and
the severe pain he was in, the doctor prescribed continuous
intravenous feeding with saline, electrolytes, a sedative, and a
Viagra pill every four hours.
The nurse, who was rather astounded, asked,
'What good will Viagra do for him, doctor'?
The doctor replied, 'It won't do anything for
his condition, but it'll keep the sheets off his legs.'  



 :giggle


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 15, 2008, 12:54:49 PM
IF YOU COULD JUST SEE ME FALLING DOWN LAUGHING!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Post by: corbet on July 15, 2008, 01:01:48 PM
Beth,
   That is really very, very funny. Just needed a good laugh.
                                                   
                                     Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 15, 2008, 01:02:40 PM
IF YOU COULD JUST SEE ME FALLING DOWN LAUGHING!!!!!!!!!!!!



If you could see me trying to get up!    :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 15, 2008, 01:34:22 PM

If you could see me trying to get up!    :para

Viagra? :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 15, 2008, 01:40:22 PM
I'm dropping in too.
Love reading everyone's posts (usually from work).Then when I get home to write a reply, they've been archived or whatever so I feel silly repyling to something not in the thread!
I so would love to see Martina McBride with Clay. :shappy
I think she would be a perfect match.
And I agree. No tour is happening before next summer. Look at what Clay has done already this year! Insane: Broadway, new CD, IMO about to be a dad, Somalia. Geez.
He needs a break.
So I can wait.....until next year for a tour...okay maybe not!
Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: paclayfan on July 15, 2008, 02:26:05 PM
If anyone needs a smile -
Watch this Youtube

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY&feature=user

(Clay topic: Clay also makes people happy around the world)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: paclayfan on July 15, 2008, 03:46:13 PM
New field notes and pictures!

http://fieldnotes.unicefusa.org/2008/07/somalia_keep_spreading_the_wor.html#more


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 15, 2008, 03:48:09 PM
If Martina and Clay toured together I would be able to have a connection! I work with Martina's sister.  :smile And Martina is from Kansas.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 15, 2008, 03:58:43 PM
Martina would be great, or how about that cute blond that was on Dancing with the stars? She just recorded a country CD. I can't think of her name. She is just starting out and who better to start with than Clay.


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Post by: luluasst on July 15, 2008, 04:45:51 PM
The dancing with the stars gal would be terrific. Can;t think of her name either! :slick


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Post by: luluasst on July 15, 2008, 04:48:24 PM
PA CLAY FAN:  Thank you for posting the field notes!! :clap


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 15, 2008, 05:27:12 PM
Dancing with the stars/singer, her name is Julianne Hough. On tour together, she could teach Clay some dance moves! :thud
On Dancing with the stars link they have Kellie Pickler listed as a maybe for next season. Perfect timing!

Rosemary




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Post by: Glory on July 15, 2008, 05:55:36 PM



                            EVENING ALL WHATS UP, I WORKED TODAY MARY DOING GOOD, SHE IS A SWEETHEART.

                          BETH LOVED YOUR JOKE  :lmao

                          NOT MUCH TO SAY TONIGHT EXCEPT I MISS CLAY WANT HIM TO SING TO ME SOON AM NOT HOLDING MY BREATH.

                       LOVE SEEING HIM WITH CHILDREN.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 15, 2008, 06:18:09 PM
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If Martina and Clay toured together I would be able to have a connection! I work with Martina's sister.   And Martina is from Kansas.


Cool, MEESA! 

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Martina would be great, or how about that cute blond that was on Dancing with the stars? She just recorded a country CD. I can't think of her name. She is just starting out and who better to start with than Clay.

LOVE CLAY, Julianne Hough could be an interesting co-star with Clay on a tour.  However, I doubt that even the two of them together could fill up an large venue.  But I think  Martina/Clay tour would definitely fill up a large arena (such as the United Center in Chicago).

Just got back from my "doppler ultrasound".  The technician indicated that he thought everything looked normal.  My oncologist will get the radiology report tomorrow, but I'm not really worried.   Thanks to everybody for your good thoughts and prayers on my behalf.   :hugg :hugg

Off to walk Mimi 3!!  :dog


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 15, 2008, 06:28:20 PM
 :clap :clap :clap :clap The best photos from Somalia so far! He looks happier than he has ever looked. I hope he is!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 15, 2008, 06:32:14 PM
Claydevotee, you are probably right about them filling a large venue. They sure would be cute together though.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 15, 2008, 06:52:02 PM
i like to see him on dancing with the stars


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: PHILLYLUVSCLAY on July 15, 2008, 07:05:23 PM
If Clay does pair up with someone for a tour, I would like to see him travel with Bryan Adams. :smile


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Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 15, 2008, 07:09:54 PM
Sounds good Phillyluvsclay. :wave


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 15, 2008, 07:16:15 PM
Hi Everyone,

Well, I went to the Y today and thank goodness no one mentioned the N&O article from Sunday.

It was wonderful seeing the great new fieldnotes & photos of Clay..He is so in his element  with the children,and radates his happiness.   He is one    :hot2    ambassador


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: paclayfan on July 15, 2008, 07:33:49 PM
My kids went to see Julianne Hough this summer.
She is on tour with Brad Paisley, Jewel, and Chuck Wicks. They loved her!
 It was definitely a country show.  We have her CD. I like a few of the songs.(very catchy)
I don't think Clay would really fit well with her.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 15, 2008, 07:52:53 PM
BE STILL MY HEART!!! COULD THE NEW UNICEF PHOTO OF CLAY HOLDING THE BOY POSSIBLY BE SHOWING A LITTLE SKIN,AND LOOK REAL CLOSE .....COULD THAT BE A SARONG THAT CLAY IS WEARING??(or just wishful thinking)  :wiggle

The photos are wonderful and its so good to see Clay so happy.

I DO LOVE THAT MAN!!!! :luv


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 15, 2008, 08:02:03 PM
Seeing Clay's look of pure joy as he reaches out to the Somalian children is so touching and heartwarming.  And I think he has a great journalistic writing style!!!!

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COULD THAT BE A SARONG THAT CLAY IS WEARING??(or just wishful thinking) 


Yup, MIMI,  the thought of Clay in a sarong is absolutely hot!!!!   :flame  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 15, 2008, 08:35:47 PM
STOPPING IN.  JILL IS TAKING A SHOWER.  WE READ THE FIELD NOTES AND LOOKED, UM, DROOLED OVER THE PIX. (EVEN WITH THE GLASSES.  BUT THE STUBBLE IS PRETTY NICE.  AS IS THE BIT OF SKIN.) I AM IMPRESSED THAT $50,000 HAS BEEN RAISED.  GOOD JOB, CLAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION.  I THOUGHT SOME OF THE BLOG REMINDED ME OF HOW HE USED TO TALK TO US ON THE OFC BLOG.  YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE DAY WHEN HE BLOGGED?  IT SOUNDED LIKE IT TO ME.  JILL ISN'T SO SURE.  I HAVE TO REREAD.  MAYBE I AM PULLING AT STRAWS.  IT SOUNDED KIND OF PERSONAL. 

WE WALKED IN THE PARK.  WE ATE VIETNAMESE.  WE MET MICKI AND LAUGHED.  WE WATCHED SOME CLACK.  GOOD STUFF.

MIMI--GLAD NO ONE BUSTED ON YOU OR CLAY.  GOOD.

IF CLAY TEAMS WITH SOMEONE, IT HAS TO BE A GOOD FIT.  SOMEONE WHO WOULD DRAW PEOPLE WHO MIGHT END UP LIKING CLAY'S MUSIC.  THAT IS TOUGH.  I THINK MARTINA COULD FIT BECAUSE I THINK HER FANS WOULD LOVE HIS HUMOR.  IT IS HIS PERSONALITY THAT WILL DRAW FOLKS IN TO ACTUALLY LISTEN TO HIS MUSIC.  BUT THEY HAVE TO BE THERE FIRST TO HEAR.  HE HAS TO TOUR WITH A DRAW.  AND SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE A HUGE EGO AND WILL CO-HEADLINE.

WE WILL SEE.  AS LONG AS WE SEE HIM.  LORD, I MISS HIM.  I WISH I DIDN'T.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 15, 2008, 09:03:53 PM
GWENN - When his blog said "and I applaud you, too" (etc.) . .  it seemed to have a familiar tone to it.  He seemed proud that $50,000 has been donated so far.  If Clay feels that the majority of the people who will read the field note blogs are HIS FANS, then he seems to have made the effort to speak the way he has spoken to us in the past.  Not overly obvious, but the "Clay to fans" connection seems to be there.

Maybe we are so hungry for his words, that we can convince ourselves of almost anything. :blush 

JILL -  :wave to you, too!  Sounds like you've had a great day!  Did you do a "second read"?? 

BTW - He looks fantastically handsome and happy.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 16, 2008, 03:35:06 AM
Clay looks very handsome and mature in those pictures......ok, HOT!  The first thing that struck me was how the children flocked to him.  Look at the little boy over to the far left running to get to him.  Amazing!  I think he could be singing to the little girls in the other one.  To me, the blog sounds like a typical field note blog.  It doesn't sound personal at all......not like the personal blogs from the olden days.  You know, the ones when we were all alot younger, before gray hair and senility set in.  :lol



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 16, 2008, 05:08:03 AM
Seeing Clay's look of pure joy as he reaches out to the Somalian children is so touching and heartwarming.  And I think he has a great journalistic writing style!!!!

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COULD THAT BE A SARONG THAT CLAY IS WEARING??(or just wishful thinking) 


Yup, MIMI,  the thought of Clay in a sarong is absolutely hot!!!!   :flame  :lol

Oh, yes, a sarong conjures up all kinds of interesting thoughts!!

I wonder how windy the weather is over there ............ :bigsmile

Is it like a kilt-a commando kilt?.............. :bigsmile



Beth I loved your joke- so I stole it and sent it along..Thanks!!!

See ya all later


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 16, 2008, 06:32:31 AM
Don't get all too excited, ladies.  I don't think it's a sarong.  They look like light-weight cotton, linen, or gause (ya know, the kind you can see through) sweat pants.  :thud  I think they're bunched because he's clowning around with that adorable young boy.  On a brighter note, I'm glad to see no t-shirt.   :yum


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 16, 2008, 06:56:10 AM
Good morning, ladies!

Checking in to see if there is any news on the Clay front.  I guess not, but we'll work with what we have, right???

GWENN and JILL, have a wonderful time together.  BTW, when is MARION getting back from California?  We've missed her!

Very hot and muggy here today.  Heat index in the 'mid 90's this afternoon.   I'm not sure I would be willing to sit outside even to listen to Clay in concert in this weather.  Well, on second thought, I think I'd make an exception!  :wink

Have a good one!  :ghug :sonic


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 16, 2008, 07:38:43 AM
MORNING EVERYONE -
I'M FEELING BETTER AND MY FEVER BROKE...THANKS TO THAT DR. CLAY PICTURE I'M SURE.  SO SORRY IT'S NOT A SARONG...SO DISAPPOINTED!  I'VE REREAD ALL THE OLDER BLOGS AND (JMO) I THOUGHT THE OLDER BLOGS WERE MUCH MORE PERSONAL. I'VE GOT SOME IDEAS ON WHAT'S GOING ON...I HOPE I'M WRONG :(


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 16, 2008, 08:01:44 AM
JILL JUST LEFT. :cry :cry :cry  I LOVE HAVING HER HERE.  I WISH I COULD DRIVE SO I COULD GO TO HER.  I ALWAYS FEELS SO GUILTY THAT SHE HAS TO DO THE DRIVING.

I THINK THEY ARE COTTON SWEAT PANTS.  LIGHT WEIGHT.  I WISH WE HAD A CLOSER, LOWER VIEW.  THAT AIN'T HAPPENING ANY TIME SOON.   :bang :bang :bang  ANNOYING.

LIZ---FEEL BETTER, SWEETIE.   :hugg

WELL, I JUST GOT SOME EMAILS FROM MY NEW BOSS.  I NEVER REALLY HAD A BOSS BEFORE.  YOUR PRINCIPAL WAS KIND OF LIKE A BOSS, BUT NOT REALLY.  COULDN'T FIRE YOU.  AND I HAVEN'T MET THIS WOMAN IN PERSON AND IT SEEMS LIKE I WON'T.  I AM LEARNING A LOT ABOUT THE WAY BUSINESS IS CONDUCTED THESE DAYS.  I AM GETTING SOME MATERIALS TO LEARN AND STUDY.  I HAVE A MONTH TO DO THAT.  PAPERWORK IS FORTHCOMING.  WOW.  A JOB AGAIN. 

AND I AM THINKING THAT THIS JOB IS COMING JUST AT THE RIGHT TIME.  I NEED TO GET MY MIND OFF OF CLAY AND HIS PERSONAL LIFE.  I NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE ON MY HORIZON BESIDES POSSIBLE CONCERTS.  I HAVE COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT WE AREN'T SEEING HIM ANY TIME IN THE NEAR OR NOT SO NEAR FUTURE.  I WISH I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THIS.  BUT NEVER, EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THIS FANDOM HAS THERE BEEN A TIME WHERE THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THE WORKS.  AND NEVER, EVER HAS HE BEEN SO DISTANT.  IT ALL FEELS DIFFERENT AND STRANGE.  THAT IS WHY I AM THINKING I MUST GET MY MIND OFF OF HIS LIFE AND CAREER AND MORE INTO MINE.  I AM A VERY BUSY PERSON.  I DON'T SIT HOME WITH NOTHING TO DO.  BUT HE IS ALWAYS RIGHT THERE IN THE BACK OF MY MIND.  I AM THINKING I HAVE TO CHANGE THAT.  AT LEAST UNTIL I KNOW WHERE HE IS COMING FROM.  SO, THIS JOB AND NEW PEOPLE, NEW MATERIAL, NEW IDEAS ARE SO IMPORTANT TO ME.  THE WORDS OF Everything I Don't Need---GET OUT OF MY HEAD, GET OUT OF MY ROOM......... 

SORRY FOR THE RANT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 16, 2008, 08:11:24 AM



                                   GWENN I FEEL THE SAME WAY SWEETHEART HAVE FOR A WHILE NOW AS YOU KNOW. SEEMS LIKE HE DROPPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.WE KNOW WHERE HE IS AND WHAT HE IS DOING JUST FEELS STRANGE TO ME.

                             I SPEND TO MUCH TIME ON MY COMPUTER BUT WITH NO JOB IN SIGHT SEEMS LIKE I NEED A DISTRACTION. A NICE ONE.

                           YOU GUYS DON'T REALLY THINK HE IS LEAVING US DO YOU. I GET THE FEELING IN MY GUT OCCASIONALLY. OR IT COULD BE GAS. :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 16, 2008, 08:12:05 AM
I WISH WE HAD A CLOSER, LOWER VIEW....

I AM THINKING THAT THIS JOB IS COMING JUST AT THE RIGHT TIME.  I NEED TO GET MY MIND OFF OF CLAY AND HIS PERSONAL LIFE. 
And his lower view? :wink


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BUT NEVER, EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THIS FANDOM HAS THERE BEEN A TIME WHERE THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THE WORKS.
But we don't know about things that might be in the works.


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AND NEVER, EVER HAS HE BEEN SO DISTANT.
Ithink that, as the man has grown in the last 5 years, he's just drawn a line between his public life and his private life. He doesn't allow them to become blended anymore. :shrug


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I MUST GET MY MIND OFF OF HIS LIFE AND CAREER AND MORE INTO MINE.  I AM A VERY BUSY PERSON.  I DON'T SIT HOME WITH NOTHING TO DO.  BUT HE IS ALWAYS RIGHT THERE IN THE BACK OF MY MIND.  I AM THINKING I HAVE TO CHANGE THAT.  AT LEAST UNTIL I KNOW WHERE HE IS COMING FROM.  SO, THIS JOB AND NEW PEOPLE, NEW MATERIAL, NEW IDEAS ARE SO IMPORTANT TO ME. 
Then, Go, Gwenn! :cheer Go, Gwenn! :cheer



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THE WORDS OF Everything I Don't Need---GET OUT OF MY HEAD, GET OUT OF MY ROOM......... 
"Get out of my bed"? Have you been holding out on us? :naughty :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Moonshot on July 16, 2008, 08:25:17 AM
SEEMS LIKE HE DROPPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH. YOU GUYS DON'T REALLY THINK HE IS LEAVING US DO YOU.

Perhaps he's just busy running for President. (http://www.news3online.com/index.php?code=7vK2GwS1VkU57yb10002)  :shrug


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 16, 2008, 08:34:43 AM
SEEMS LIKE HE DROPPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH. YOU GUYS DON'T REALLY THINK HE IS LEAVING US DO YOU.

Perhaps he's just busy running for President. (http://www.news3online.com/index.php?code=7vK2GwS1VkU57yb10002)  :shrug

THIS IS THE FUNNIEST THING EVER.   :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

Quote
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THE WORDS OF Everything I Don't Need---GET OUT OF MY HEAD, GET OUT OF MY ROOM.........
"Get out of my bed"? Have you been holding out on us? Naughty Wink

SEE, SUNNY, I PURPOSELY LEFT THAT LINE OUT.   :wink :blush :bigsmile

GWENN



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 16, 2008, 08:35:11 AM


                                  I'D VOTE FOR HIM . :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 16, 2008, 08:42:58 AM
[quote author=Sundancer link




Ithink that, as the man has grown in the last 5 years, he's just drawn a line between his public life and his private life. He doesn't allow them to become blended anymore. :shrug




[/quote]


Well, that sucks!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 16, 2008, 08:43:41 AM
MORNING EVERYONE -
I'M FEELING BETTER AND MY FEVER BROKE...THANKS TO THAT DR. CLAY PICTURE I'M SURE.  SO SORRY IT'S NOT A SARONG...SO DISAPPOINTED!  I'VE REREAD ALL THE OLDER BLOGS AND (JMO) I THOUGHT THE OLDER BLOGS WERE MUCH MORE PERSONAL. I'VE GOT SOME IDEAS ON WHAT'S GOING ON...I HOPE I'M WRONG :(



Care to share


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 16, 2008, 09:06:42 AM
I"VE GOT THAT SAME GUT FEELING LIKE GWENN.  I'VE HAD IT FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. FIRST I'M GETTING ALL MY FEELINGS AND IMPRESSIONS TOGETHER IN MY HEAD AND THEN I"LL TRY TO EXPRESS THEM.
BUT THIS I KNOW...HE HAS AN AMAZING VOICE, THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE...IS CHANGE COMING...NO...CHANGE IS ALREADY HERE.  (JM HUMBLE O)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 16, 2008, 09:17:37 AM
I'll share. I think he is where ever Jaymes is waiting for the birth of the baby - California? Canada? North Carolina? I know he has not said one word on the subject - but I think he has said it all through his silence (and by his reaction to the TMZ reporter). That looked like a very protective Dad to me.

I think Gwenn's post says how a lot of other people feel. We love Clay, and will always be here for him if and when he comes back to us, but it is time to give time and attention that so many have given to Clay the last 5 years back to our own real lives. Clay is seemingly giving priority to his personal life - everyone else should, too. He is a man we will always love - from a distance - a distance that Clay wants. I had always thought that someday Clay would be including us in  the details of his marriage and the birth of his first child - that is a dream that is dying a sad death (at least for me). It has taken me a few weeks to come to terms with the fact that that is not going to happen.

 I have so wanted to be "Susie Orman" so many times the last few years!  :lol I have watched so many people spend so much money on Clay (in many, many,  cases money they could ill afford to spend)  - and I kept thinking of how much that money could have grown for them in 20 year's time! It has been wonderful to be a member of the Clay Nation, and to meet so many wonderful people, but I think I finally have things in good perspective now.

So, I hope and pray that Clay is somewhere with people he loves waiting for the greatest event in his life. And I'm praying that he will finally have the happy personal life he so deserves.

I know there are many people who still do not believe that the baby rumour is true, and I respect their opinions! Go ahead and throw those tomatoes! Our heat index today is going to be 105 degrees - and a nice cold tomato will feel good! (Plus, I know they will be thrown with a great deal of love!  :lol )


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 16, 2008, 10:03:18 AM
I know there are many people who still do not believe that the baby rumour is true, and I respect their opinions! Go ahead and throw those tomatoes! Our heat index today is going to be 105 degrees - and a nice cold tomato will feel good! (Plus, I know they will be thrown with a great deal of love!  :lol )

Nah, no need for chucking veggies. A different point of view isn't gonna hurt anyone. :lol :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 16, 2008, 10:07:22 AM
I think that, as the man has grown in the last 5 years, he's just drawn a line between his public life and his private life. He doesn't allow them to become blended anymore. :shrug
Well, that sucks!

   :lol :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 16, 2008, 10:10:53 AM
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THE WORDS OF Everything I Don't Need---GET OUT OF MY HEAD, GET OUT OF MY ROOM.........

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"Get out of my bed"? Have you been holding out on us? Naughty Wink

SEE, SUNNY, I PURPOSELY LEFT THAT LINE OUT.   :wink :blush :bigsmile

You little devil. :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lmatheson on July 16, 2008, 11:44:23 AM
Gwenn, I feel the same way you feel about Clay. I wake up singing his song in my head. I want to get rid of it but it's there and won't go away. I don't even want to see other singers' concerts. George Michael is coming to our city and I don't have the desire to go and see him. Everytime my husband turned the radio on when we're driving the first thing I hear is Daugtry !!!!!Always him. Life is not fair. Lolita.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 16, 2008, 12:06:56 PM
My turn..., I don't think Clay will address any rumors unless to Diane Sawyer or Larry King . I do not believe the rumors. They have died down, not accelerated. I think he has done so much for his fans this year. I think the Gala will reveal some surprises.
Let't hold tight. He is still with us :hugg :hugg :hugg

Rosemary


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 16, 2008, 12:15:30 PM
   
   I know I am being naive, but some times I can"t help thinking. We know Jaymes is pregnant
    and we know that Clay is involved in some way.  He may well be the Daddy and I pray that
    all goes well and he is happy.  There may be another side to the story which we may or may not
     find out. There may be many reasons why he has not confided in us, other people are involved.
     I"ve loved Clay for five years, I know he is not perfect, but who is?
            Every one    has the right to think whatever they want and handle it in their own way.
                                     
                                                  Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 16, 2008, 12:23:58 PM
WELL, I HAVE GOTTEN 5 EMAILS TODAY ALREADY FROM MY NEW BOSS AND SOMEONE I AM SUPPOSED TO MEET WITH.  MOSTLY CC'S.  I GUESS YOU HAVE TO CHECK YOUR EMAIL ALL THE TIME.  I ALREADY AM WAITING FOR MATERIAL TO ARRIVE THAT I HAVE TO STUDY AND AN APPOINTMENT IN 4 WEEKS FOR TRAINING.  WOW. 

I THINK WE ARE ALL TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE NEW CLAY AIKEN.  AND WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE LIKE.  BUT I CANNOT FATHOM HIM LEAVING A CAREER THAT HAS JUST BLOSSOMED IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION----BROADWAY. ACTING.  WHATEVER.  I JUST HAVE COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT 2 OR 3 TOURS A YEAR PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN.  NOT IN THE POP WORLD.  COUNTRY, YES.  THEY TOUR CONSTANTLY.  BUT NOT POP.  I JUST READ AT CV THAT JESSE MCCARTNEY AND JORDIN SPARKS ARE COTOURING IN VENUES OF MAYBE 1000 FOLKS.  NOW THAT IS DIFFERENT. 

LOLITA--I AM WITH YOU.  I AM NOT INTERESTED IN SEEING ANYONE ELSE.  I TOOK MY HUSBAND TO SEE TOBY KEITH TWICE.  THAT WAS ENOUGH. 

AS FOR DAUGHTRY, THAT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT GENRE.  AND HE HAS BEEN TOURING WITH BON JOVI.  WHAT A WAY TO BUILD A FANBASE.  WHEN CLAY STARTED, HE WAS WAY BIGGER THAN KELLY.  SINCE THEN, HE HAS TOURED ALONE.  SO, THE FOLKS COMING TO SEE HIM ARE THE SAME ONES WHO ARE ALWAYS COMING TO SEE HIM.  HE ISN'T ON THE RADIO. NOT ON PRIME TIME TV.  NO MOVIES.  NO BIG STAR BEHIND HIM.  THERE IS NO WAY TO BUILD UP A FANBASE.  THERE JUST ISN'T.  HE HAS TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT SCHEME.  OR DO SOMETHING ELSE LIKE MOVIES OR TV.  IN MY FANTASY WORLD, THAT IS WHAT HE IS WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.  OR SAM SHOULD BE.  AND WHILE HE IS CHANGING THINGS IN HIS LIFE, I AM TRYING TO CHANGE MINE.

MEANWHILE, I HAVEN'T EARNED AN EXTRA PENNY AND BARRY IS SPENDING.   :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang  SOME THINGS NEVER CHANGE.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 16, 2008, 12:39:47 PM
I'm enjoying reading everyone's posts. I would like to think that Clay is working on something like a talk show. We would absolutely know where he was if that was the case. Kinda like SPAMLOT. We knew where to find him!  He's never going to stop singing but touring is exhausting and I think doing something else to showcase his talents, like a talk show, would be cool.

Shelley

PS  Been a fan since day one, just never occurred to me until On My Way Here came out to actually join the fan base officially - duh.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 16, 2008, 12:57:38 PM


                  ALL HE HAS TO DO IS SAY HI THAT WOULD PUT MY MIND AT EASE. HE SPOILED US THIS YEAR AND LAST. I MISS HIM TERRIBLY, CAN''T HELP IT.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 16, 2008, 01:01:03 PM


                  ALL HE HAS TO DO IS SAY HI THAT WOULD PUT MY MIND AT EASE. HE SPOILED US THIS YEAR AND LAST. I MISS HIM TERRIBLY, CAN''T HELP IT.

ME, TOO.   :hugg :hugg

WELCOME, SHELLEY.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 16, 2008, 01:37:25 PM
COME ON, MAINER---LET IT ALL OUT. BELIEVE ME, I NEVER USED TO BELIEVE IN THIS STUFF AND THEN I MET A VERY DEAR FRIEND WHO CHANGED MY MIND.  I WOULD LOVE, LOVE, LOVE TO HEAR WHAT WAS SAID.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ILClaymate on July 16, 2008, 01:43:34 PM
should I dish or not....it's all just speculation anyway....no different than all the guesses and suppositions that we voice here...(and really no different from what I had suspected, so maybe she was just reading my mind....hmmm, a dilemma, what to do..???)

As long as its stated as just that...speculation and not as fact.  If its stated as fact, thats how rumors get started and we definately don't need any more of those.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Petjen on July 16, 2008, 01:44:14 PM
I'd like to hear what the psychic had to say.  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 16, 2008, 01:50:03 PM



                                   IF I KNEW ANY PSHYICS WOULD ASK THEM WHAT I WAS GOING TO BE DOING IN 5 YEARS, I KNOW A FEW PHYSCO'S HOWEVER HAVE ONE ACROSS THE HALL FROM ME, :lol :lol

                                  JUST WANT CLAY TO BE HAPPY AND SING TO ME.BUT WHAT WILL BE WILL BE I POSE, WE HAVE A LOT VESTED IN HIM AND INVESTED IN HIM.I FOR ONE WOULD NOT TAKE A MINUTE OF IT BACK, FO NUTHIN.

                 I CLEANED MY KEYBOARD ALL THE LETTERS WORK ONCE AGAIN YAY FOR ME. I AM SO EXCITED. :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 16, 2008, 01:54:41 PM
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WHEN CLAY STARTED, HE WAS WAY BIGGER THAN KELLY.  SINCE THEN, HE HAS TOURED ALONE.  SO, THE FOLKS COMING TO SEE HIM ARE THE SAME ONES WHO ARE ALWAYS COMING TO SEE HIM.  HE ISN'T ON THE RADIO. NOT ON PRIME TIME TV.  NO MOVIES.  NO BIG STAR BEHIND HIM.  THERE IS NO WAY TO BUILD UP A FANBASE.  THERE JUST ISN'T.  HE HAS TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT SCHEME.  OR DO SOMETHING ELSE LIKE MOVIES OR TV.  IN MY FANTASY WORLD, THAT IS WHAT HE IS WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.  OR SAM SHOULD BE.

 :yeahthat


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 16, 2008, 02:10:24 PM


                               yep  HE HAS TO WORKING ON SOMETHING  GUESS WE WILL WAIT, AND WAIT SOME MORE ,IF I DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF YOU TO COMISERATE WITH I WOULD GO BONKERS NOT THAT I AM FAR FROM IT ANYWAY. :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 16, 2008, 02:40:32 PM
I believe I read on this site that men dressed in suits sitting close to the stage at Spamalot,
could have been watching the dynamics between Clay and his audience fans. We came from all over to see Clay. This did not go unnoticed. And the stage door created quite an interest also. I think I remember reading that Clay's mom said something exciting was to happen,and Diane Sawyer said this was just the beginning for Clay. Mike Nickels had to be very pleased and why wouldn't he use him again.
We don't hear about other stars and singers everyday. I am glad Clay is taking some needed rest.
Clay was smart enough to have smaller venues. He is a smart business man. He will do what is best for him to succeed.

Rosemary


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 16, 2008, 02:41:33 PM
Forgot to add :hugg :hugg :hugg
Love you all

Rosemary


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 16, 2008, 03:12:35 PM
Geeese, I scare myself sometimes when I get on my soapbox. Sorry


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 16, 2008, 03:35:18 PM
I love it!!! Thanks mainer  for sharing that with us...  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Petjen on July 16, 2008, 04:24:38 PM
I love it!!! Thanks mainer  for sharing that with us...  :hugg

 :yeahthat


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 16, 2008, 04:45:26 PM
Thanks very much, mainer.  True or not, I think it will give us all something to think about and maybe lift our spirits a little bit.  I, for one, certainly hope that particularly the last parts are true.  If we stop and think about it, the first part may be also--Jaymes has certainly been with Clay many, many times where an EP would not necessarily have to have been.

The one thought I am holding on to is that Clay himself said that he was taking the summer off.  Since summer isn't over until September, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until then. 

Then you better come back to us Clay.   :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: quynn on July 16, 2008, 04:54:06 PM
IMO..."Psychic abilities" vary in degree and form....from gut feelings to premonitions to mind reading.....interpreting what we  already personally believe to be the truth .  Initmate, personal information about someone other than ourselves obtained by this nature seems an invasion of privacy, similar to what the tabloids did when they started the speculation.  I guess psychics are entitled to their opinions and speculation as well.  :wink   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 16, 2008, 05:02:51 PM
Initmate, personal information about someone other than ourselves obtained by this nature seems an invasion of privacy...
Interesting point, Jill. Could it be considered an invasion of privacy if one didn't believe in the psychic's "ability," or only if one accepted that what the psychic said is true?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: quynn on July 16, 2008, 05:08:38 PM
Initmate, personal information about someone other than ourselves obtained by this nature seems an invasion of privacy...
Interesting point, Jill. Could it be considered an invasion of privacy if one didn't believe in the psychic's "ability," or only if one accepted that what the psychic said is true?

 :lol  Sunny!  My "eight ball" says....."Ask again later."   :lol :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 16, 2008, 05:11:11 PM
PERSONALLY, I AM ALWAYS INTERESTED IN WHAT SOMEONE SAYS.  i DON'T KNOW THIS PSYCHIC, BUT IT BAFFLES ME THAT SOMEONE HAS "FEELINGS" WHEN THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THE PERSON INVOLVED.  INTERESTING.

JILL, I SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.  I THINK WE ARE ALL SO DESPERATE TO KNOW WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON THAT WE WILL TRY ANY MEANS. 

WHY CAN'T THIS  MAN JUST OPEN HIS MOUTH AND SAY SOMETHING.  HE HAS A BIG ENOUGH MOUTH FOR HEAVEN SAKE.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 16, 2008, 05:13:28 PM
WHY CAN'T THIS  MAN JUST OPEN HIS MOUTH AND SAY SOMETHING.  HE HAS A BIG ENOUGH MOUTH FOR HEAVEN SAKE.

 
   :lol

He's standing his ground, Gwenn--"What I do is nobody's business but mine."


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 16, 2008, 05:42:46 PM



                                    SOMETIMES I TALK BEFORE IT GOES THROUGH  MY BRAIN. QUOTE BY CLAY AIKEN. :lol :lol

                                      JUST A HI I AM GOOD, I AM EASY TO PLEASE.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Petjen on July 16, 2008, 05:58:55 PM
Thanks Mainer.  Interesting for sure.   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 16, 2008, 06:08:55 PM
My understanding is that psychics don't read others, as in total strangers, without that person's psychic "permission"; or unless it is something that will not remain hidden or private for long and is about to become open knowledge in any event -- in which case it is more a matter of reading the future (as in of a person's public reality or persona), which is what I think this reading is -- should it prove accurate; or else if someone is acting secretly in a way to bring harm to the person being read for.

Dang. And here I thought I understood what you said. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 16, 2008, 06:19:27 PM
YOU KNOW, SUNNY---I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS AND I DON'T.  I REALLY DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT NOTHING.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 16, 2008, 06:20:46 PM
YOU KNOW, SUNNY---I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS AND I DON'T.  I REALLY DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT NOTHING.

GWENN
And that, it is said, is the beginning of wisdom. :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 16, 2008, 07:33:11 PM
 :wave

Computer has been off all afternoon, at the request of workers who were cutting electricity on and off.

I don't for one minute thinK Clay's career is over - far from it! (Unless that is his choice, of course!) I'm still checking Broadway figures every week, although I no longer post them. Spamalot has still never made it back into the Top 10 since Clay left - and I bet producers are making note of that!

I have not bought any new music, except for Clay, and have only gone to 2 non-Clay concerts in the last 5 years (tickets to those 2 concerts were gifts for my husband). There are several good concerts coming to Shreveport this summer and Fall - I think we will go to a couple. No need to not enjoy good talent that is actually coming to my area.

Does that mean that I am deserting Clay? Not at all - I'll still buy his music, will support his charities,  and will go to a concert every tour if humanly possible (went to 2 last summer because one concert was an anniversary gift). But Clay is taking time off and hopefully enjoying the summer - Even with all that is going on here, I think I will check out some other artists and enjoy the summer, too.

Have a good night, everyone ...............


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 16, 2008, 07:36:37 PM
You know, I may have spent a bit of money on my Clay travels the last few years, but I dont regret a single penny of it. Sure I might have more for my "old age" but you know what? I might not have one. My Dad taught me that. He was going to do this and that when he retired in December one year. And he died Thanksgiving Day-never got to do all the things he waited to do.
So, when I am old and decrepit (no, not yet) I will have these wonderful cherished memories when I traveled all over the country, meeting people,  getting to know the country, and watching and loving someone whom I admire with all my heart (yes, he is human, makes mistakes- I still love him).  Not to toot my own horn, but I have worked hard all my life. After my husband graciously left me, I worked two jobs- no vacation, not much social life. Then it got better- I could start doing things for myself.
And fate intervened a couple of years ago. I lost my job. I had time on my hands. I worked at home around my own schedule. I got breaks in airfare. I knew people across the country. I had an in with car rental companies. Everything came together for me to ENJOY life with gusto. I met many many wonderful friends, formed some relationships that I want to last beyond just this fandom. I got to meet Clay in person -he LIKED my story-you do not know how much I needed that, how my EGO needed that. And you all here accepted me-pulled me into your circle and RESPECTED me- laughed at my corny jokes and attempts at humor-listened to my opinions, whether agreeing or not. I BELONGED somewhere.
Maybe the stars were aligned for me the past couple of years. I dont know what it was, but I am sure as heck glad it happened. No, I dont regret spending anything- and I was able to also feed my desire to help-guided to UNICEF and BAF along with other charities I support to the best of my abilities.

So-for me, it was money well spent and time well served. I have scrapbooks of memories in my heart, in my head, and on paper. I have stories to tell. Its been wonderful, and I expect it to continue.

Clay- as much as I respect everyones right to feel the way they do, I dont understand why some are upset that we havent heard from him. He has NOT disappeared-he was in Somalia. He SAID he was taking the summer off- its only the middle of July.  He has no need to "write" or "speak" to any of us- he is on vacation, and his personal time is his own.
Do I think he will not be sitting still for too long? Without a doubt. I dont believe for a minute he is walking away. This man loves challenges. Look how he dug his heels into Spamalot and made it wonderful for us. When some say he needs to find other things to do besides tour, as its not lucrative right now- what do they consider Spamalot was? That was certainly different, was it not? The man is continually surprising us-and I do not doubt for a minute that he will continue to do so.

The above statements are all my own opinions, and I do not denigrate anyone else for thinking differently than I do. Its great to talk about all different views. I just dont think he will be going away.

And thats the truuuuuuuth!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 16, 2008, 07:57:01 PM
  :clap  :clap  :clap  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 16, 2008, 08:38:41 PM
  :clap  :clap  :clap  :hugg

 :hugg :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 16, 2008, 08:39:07 PM
Wonderful, Marilyn    :clap      :clap       :clap


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 16, 2008, 09:35:35 PM
 :kiss  Hi back Gwinn!  I had to get off computer so I didn't see your shout out until just now.

Marilyn:  :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap You are AMAZING! Thank you for your post.

And I just want to say I feel accepted here too - I was a professional singer in my (ahem) younger days and worked in the entertainment industry for (ahem) decades...um, for a while...or whatever. I'm no spring chicken!  :roflmao

Anway, I know something about the biz, is what I am saying, and it's not easy being in the spotlight. I think Clay will be back in no time at all. Right now he is preparing for the most important moment of his life - the next pictures we will see is of him lifting his OWN child to his face. Wow. That makes me cry with happiness for him.

Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 16, 2008, 10:29:18 PM
:kiss  Hi back Gwinn!  I had to get off computer so I didn't see your shout out until just now.

Marilyn:  :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap You are AMAZING! Thank you for your post.

And I just want to say I feel accepted here too - I was a professional singer in my (ahem) younger days and worked in the entertainment industry for (ahem) decades...um, for a while...or whatever.  I'm no spring chicken!  :roflmao

Anway, I know something about the biz, is what I am saying, and it's not easy being in the spotlight. I think Clay will be back in no time at all. Right now he is preparing for the most important moment of his life - the next pictures we will see is of him lifting his OWN child to his face. Wow. That makes me cry with happiness for him.

Shelley

Great getting further acquainted with you Shelley!  :hugg Sounds like your life's journey has been a fascinating one...I, for one, would love to read more!  Do tell girl...we've got the time!  :wink

Marilyn, your post touched my heart and surely articulated the deep connection felt between we Clay fans!  :clap  :hugg

I've had a thought...especially after reading today's posts...and seeing the euphoria mirrored on Clay's face... I hope my conjecture won't disturb you all... deep breath...here goes...
 
o  perhaps Clay is feeling fantastic!...joyful and all of that (...he's well aware of the depth of affection we feel for him...just a couple of months ago the Spamalot run ended in a real love fest...his sole dedication on this latest CD was to us)

o  we - the Clay Nation, on the other hand, have felt his absence... and many of us have been in a mournful state (...experiencing the loss of his just about daily presence... and usually when Clay undergoes some ridiculous tabloid nonsense, we've heard some reassuring word/blog from him which has let us know all is right is his world...and with our ongoing need for him to continue to entertain us/be with us... then, all is right in our's too.)

This time, we've got to go on faith that the 'Clay journey' is not yet done...it evokes the angst that many of us felt when he lost the AI title... I also believe many of us intuit big changes ahead (...and certainly not the least of those is a darling baby...I do hope we'll someday see it's smiling face....that young soul who will be so welcomed here...) which lends to the unrest...

Let's go with what we see on the latest facial expression of  Clay...utter joy... let us celebrate the beautiful intersection of love that we feel with him, each other and the Clay Nation as a whole... for the bond which exists in this fan base is unprecedented... and will  be the subject of study by social scientists someday, of that I am certain.  Clay fans and Clay himself share a distinctive trait...we come from love, we do!...and I am so glad to be a participant in this wondrous assembly. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 17, 2008, 04:47:22 AM
Marilyn, You said exactly what I was trying to, but mine came out babbling. :clap :clap :clap

Rosemary


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 17, 2008, 06:13:06 AM
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Marilyn, You said exactly what I was trying to, but mine came out babbling.   


Rosemary, I also tried to respond to Marilyn's post last night, but I know my words would have been "babbling", as well.  It must be the heat.

I so agree with you, Marilyn, that life is way too short to not seize every day and enjoy it to the max.   I know you've had a lot of health problems, which makes every joyful moment Claytrekking (and all that it entails)  even sweeter.   :hugg  That is also why Phil and I have decided to get out and see the world while we still can.  Considering the past few year's health issues we've had we figured we might be checking into nursing homes in the next few years!   :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 17, 2008, 06:57:05 AM
MORNING---

BOY IS IT HOT HERE.  WHEW.

MARILYN AND THEA--I AM WITH YOU 100%.  I DON'T REGRET ONE CENT I HAVE SPENT IN THE LAST 5 YEARS.  NOT ONE CENT.  I AM BEYOND GRATEFUL TO CLAY FOR BRINGING MUSIC BACK INTO MY LIFE AND ALL OF THE NEW SISTERS I NOW HAVE.  YEAH, I CONSIDER YOU GIRLS LIKE FAMILY.  THAT PART OF CLAY HAS RUBBED OFF ON ME.  I HAVE HAD SOME OF THE BEST EXPERIENCES OF MY LIFE WITH THIS FANDOM.  TRAVELING AND LAUGHING AND A WHOLE NEW LANGUAGE.  I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THIS UNTIL I CANNOT MOVE ANOTHER LIMB. 

JUST BE THERE TO ENTERTAIN US, CLAY. 

ON ANOTHER NOTE---AN INTERESTING ONE THAT I HOPE YOU ALL WILL COMMENT ON.  I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE BEEN READING THE COMMENTS ON THE FIELD NOTES.  I HAVE AND I HAVE POSTED ONE COMMENT ON EACH.  ANYWAY, THERE IS A UNICEF GENTLEMAN WHO IS READING THEM ALSO.  I ASKED WHY THERE WAS NO THERMOMETER LIKE BEFORE.  I GOT A PERSONAL EMAIL FROM THIS MAN LAST NIGHT.  THAT IN ITSELF WAS WONDERFUL AND VERY THOUGHTFUL THAT HE TOOK HIS TIME TO FIND MY ADDRESS.  ANYWAY, HE TOLD ME THAT CLAY SPECIFICALLY ASKED THAT THERE BE NO THERMOMETER THIS TIME.  WOW.  I THOUGHT THAT SPOKE VOLUMES.  I ANSWERED HIM BACK THAT IT WAS SAD THAT CLAY FELT THAT WAY BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF FUN TO WATCH HOW EACH OF US REALLY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.  I TOLD HIM THAT WE CANNOT COMMUNICATE THIS TO CLAY BUT HE CAN.  NOW, I DON'T THINK MR. STUBBORN WILL CHANGE HIS MIND, BUT I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO SAY IT.  WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? 

MY OPINION IS THAT HE IS WORRIED THAT HIS GOAL COULDN'T BE MADE THIS TIME AND DIDN'T WANT TO BE EMBARRASSED.  I AM THINKING THAT HE IS FEELING THAT WITH THE BABY NEWS, THE FANDOM MAY BE TOO UPSET WITH HIM TO SUPPORT HIS CAUSE.  THAT WOULD BE AWFUL TO ME.  I CANNOT FATHOM ANY OTHER REASON.  ANYONE?

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 17, 2008, 07:18:32 AM
That's my thought, Gwenn.  He has lost fans.  I would be surprised if he made $100,000, but I hope he does.  I've given twice for Somalia.  I'm done thill the next Unicef trip.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 17, 2008, 08:40:23 AM
GWENN -  I think your comment on the Field Blog and the reply from the gentlemen about Clay not wanting a thermometer to mark the donations is so very interesting and I find it very sad.  IMO, it indicates how very aware Clay is of a fandom in turmoil. It makes me wonder if, how, and when Clay will address his fans with any kind of a message.  To me, the Somolia trip and UNICEF drive would have been a relatively benign topic to address.

The UNICEF pictures and blogs have been so heartwarming.  Clay looks completely filled with happiness.  I want him to feel that joy in all aspects of his life . . . including his relationship with his fans.

Thanks for sharing this with us, GWENN.  Lots of food for thought.  I wish I didn't care so much.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 17, 2008, 08:55:07 AM
YES, BARB, I THINK MANY OF WISH WE DIDN'T CARE SO MUCH.  BUT WE DO AND AS JILL HAS TAUGHT ME SO WELL, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO THOSE FEELINGS.

WHAT IS THE MOST DIFFICULT FOR ME IS THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE THE BEGINNING, CLAY ISN'T SURE OF WHERE HE STANDS WITH US.  NOT THOSE HERE, BUT THE FANDOM IN GENERAL.  IT MUST BE HARD FOR HIM AS IT IS FOR US.  BUT RIGHT NOW, I AM THINKING HE HAS PUT ALL OF THIS ON THE BACK BURNER.  THE BABY COMES FIRST.

WHEN DID THIS ALL BECOME SO COMPLICATED???????

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 17, 2008, 08:55:57 AM
Hi Folks -- I removed the "reading" -- not because of any reactions here -- but because I realize there are haters and unsympathertic others who troll these waters.

Sundancer -- what I meant is that my understanding is that a psychic may read a total stranger by looking ahead and seeing that person's public future reality -- which understandings may shed light on the total stranger's  past (which, from a future point of view, could be today's present).  Ya really, now how clear is that?!!!??  I don't understand these things myself or I could perhaps explain them..!!!??? 



I understand mainer...and again I really appreciate your interest in sharing hopeful news about Clay.  I too have heard from my psychic friends...and the news is good and comforting.  I've refrained from posting specific details here...I have only mentioned a few generalities, for the same reason you elected to withdraw your 'report.'

I understand your concern Gwenn that Clay has lost fans, however without more radio play/a hit song, he becomes subject to the ebb and flow so typical of the difficult commercial  music business.  When I recall the biographies of those who withstood the test of time, it seems most singers/entertainers have undergone varying degrees of interest/appeal...Neil Diamond, Frank Sinatra and Neil Sedaka immediately come to mind.  Interestingly enough, Frank Sinatra turned in his outstanding acting performance during such a shift of popularity.   It certainly remains a comparable possibility it seems to me, for Clay.

About the expectation for UNICEF donations, do you suppose Clay was realizing the considerable expense many of us just recently assumed in supporting his stint on Broadway and adjusted his approach to his most recent UNICEF appeal accordingly?

I do hope Clay doesn't review the state of his fan base by solely reading over at the OFC, for I don't believe that message board provides a balanced sense of the Clay Nation at all, from what I've read of the sentiments expressed there, especially those posted recently.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 17, 2008, 09:02:51 AM
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About the expectation for UNICEF donations, do you suppose Clay was realizing the considerable expense many of us just recently assumed in supporting his stint on Broadway and adjusted his approach to his most recent UNICEF appeal accordingly?

VERY INTERESTING.  MAYBE.  THAT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL LOTS BETTER.

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I do hope Clay doesn't review the state of his fan base by solely reading over at the OFC, for I don't believe that message board provides a balanced sense of the Clay Nation at all, from what I've read of the sentiments expressed there, especially those posted recently.

LORD, I HOPE HE PAYS SOMEONE TO LOOK ELSEWHERE.  THOSE FOLKS JUST AREN'T NORMAL.   :bduh :wink

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Interestingly enough, Frank Sinatra turned in his outstanding acting performance during such a shift of popularity.   It certainly remains a comparable possibility it seems to me, for Clay.

THIS IS WHAT I AM HOPING FOR.

GOTTA SHOWER AND GET READY FOR MAH JONGG.

GWENN





Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Moonshot on July 17, 2008, 09:13:15 AM
LORD, I HOPE HE PAYS SOMEONE TO LOOK ELSEWHERE.  THOSE FOLKS JUST AREN'T NORMAL.   :bduh :wink

 :lol :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 17, 2008, 09:30:28 AM

I do hope Clay doesn't review the state of his fan base by solely reading over at the OFC, for I don't believe that message board provides a balanced sense of the Clay Nation at all, from what I've read of the sentiments expressed there, especially those posted recently.

JOHANNA - You are so right about the OFC.  Once again, every fan has a right to their opinion, but many remarks posted over there right after the TMZ thing, were so cruel and judgmental.  Very hate-filled.  I haven't been back there for a couple of weeks, so I am not aware of what the "mood" is over there at this time. I hope Clay and/or his friends have visited some of the other Clay boards (CLAYMANICS, hint, hint) and have taken the opportunity to note posts from others from the fandom who have shown concern and compassion (and a even a bit of lust and smut). 

The whole fandom sure could use one of those "crumbs" about now.   :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 17, 2008, 09:33:38 AM
WELL HERE IS SOMETHING WONDERFUL  THERESA AND I SHARE AN ANNIVERSARY TODAY.  IT IS ONE YEAR AGO TODAY THAT WE EACH HAD THAT GORGEOUS MAN'S ARMS WRAPPED AROUND US AND THAT STUBBLY FACE NEXT TO OURS.   :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud

THAT, MY FRIENDS, IS WORTH A WHHHHOOOOOOLLLLLLEEEEEEE LOT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 17, 2008, 09:36:46 AM
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HE TOLD ME THAT CLAY SPECIFICALLY ASKED THAT THERE BE NO THERMOMETER THIS TIME.  WOW.  I THOUGHT THAT SPOKE VOLUMES.  I ANSWERED HIM BACK THAT IT WAS SAD THAT CLAY FELT THAT WAY BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF FUN TO WATCH HOW EACH OF US REALLY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.  I TOLD HIM THAT WE CANNOT COMMUNICATE THIS TO CLAY BUT HE CAN.  NOW, I DON'T THINK MR. STUBBORN WILL CHANGE HIS MIND, BUT I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO SAY IT.  WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? 

GWENN ~ I HAVE TAKEN NOTE THAT CLAY'S APPROACH TO FUNDRAISING RE. THE SOMALIA TRIP IS MUCH MORE UNDERSTATED THAN PREVIOUS TRIPS.  I HAD JUST ASSUMED THAT UNICEF CALLED THE SHOTS IN REGARDS TO HOW THESE TRIPS WERE PROMOTED, SO IT SURPRISED ME THAT IT ALL SEEMED SO DIFFERENT THIS TIME, ESPECIALLY SINCE HE PERSONALLY LOOKS SO ENTHUSIASTIC IN THE PICS.

ALL I CAN CONCLUDE IS THAT HE DOESN'T WANT HIS OWN PERSONAL PUBLIC IMAGE ISSUES TO REFLECT BADLY ON SOMALIA'S WORTHINESS AS A CAUSE.  SO HE MAINLY IS HIGHLIGHTING THE PLIGHT OF SOMALIA AND LETTING THE PUBLIC DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES IF THEY WANT TO DONATE OR NOT.  AND BY NOT ISSUING CHALLANGES AND POSTING THERMOMETERS AND OFFERING SIGNED FIELD NOTES AND EXCLUSIVE PICTURES, HE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE JUST "WORKING" HIS FAN BASE, BUT IMPARTING VALUABLE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.

SOMETIMES IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE A GAME (IMO) THAT HE PLAYS WITH HIS FANS--HOW MUCH CAN HE GET THEM TO DO?  NOT THAT HE ISN'T SINCERE ABOUT HIS CAUSES, BUT THAT METHOD OF FUNDRAISING FEELS EXCLUSIONARY IF YOU ARE NOT A FAN (IMO).  AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC WOULD NOT LIKE TO PERCEIVE THAT THEY WERE GETTING SUCKED INTO THAT (IMO).  SO IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE DIGNITY OF DONATING TO SOMALIA'S CAUSE, PERHAPS HE FEELS HE SHOULDN'T BLATANTLY ASK FOR MONEY.  THIS ACTUALLY WOULD SHOW ALOT OF MATURITY ON HIS PART (IMO).

EVEN THO THE DONATIONS MAY AMOUNT TO LESS, I LIKE THIS APPROACH BETTER.  GIVES US CREDIT FOR BEING THINKING HUMAN BEINGS, NOT JUST SHEEP.  GIVES THE PUBLIC A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE WITHOUT FEELING USED (IMO).

SOMETHING DOES SEEM OUT OF SYNC THO.  IN NONE OF THE PICTURES HE IS IN DO WE SEE ANY OF THE MISERY THAT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED--JUST JOYFULNESS.  THE ONLY REALLY MISERABLE PICTURES ARE WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE MEDIA OR ON YOUTUBE.  IS HE TRYING TO SAY THAT UNICEF HAS MADE THE JOY POSSIBLE AND DONATIONS ARE NEEDED TO CONTINUE THAT?  I'M FINDING THIS CONFUSING.

ANYWAY, FOR WHATEVER REASON, HE DOESN'T SEEM TO FEEL RIGHT ABOUT "TELLING US" TO DONATE.  JUST WANTS TO BRING IT TO OUR ATTENTION THIS TIME.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 17, 2008, 10:05:01 AM
FRANNIE - Except for the lack of the thermometer and no personal plea to his fanbase, I had not noted the subtle and not-so-subtle differences in the Somolia trip vs. all of the previous ones.

You made some excellent observations. For one thing, I didn't ever think of how a fan vs. a non-fan would react to Clay's presentation of the need for funds in past UNICEF pleas.  This is definitely a different approach and it makes me wonder if recent events sparked the need to make this fund-raising drive from Clay take a different path. 

For all of the right reasons, I hope this partifular UNICEF drive is very successful.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 17, 2008, 10:16:38 AM
Sundancer -- what I meant is that my understanding is that a psychic may read a total stranger by looking ahead and seeing that person's public future reality -- which understandings may shed light on the total stranger's  past (which, from a future point of view, could be today's present). 
Oh, I see. Well, I don't, actually, but the psychic does... or did... um, will...

Never mind. She said it's all good, so that's that! :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 17, 2008, 10:28:39 AM
hi guys youtube.com has some vid of course and some are mine but of course clay looks hot as usual


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 17, 2008, 11:52:55 AM
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ALL I CAN CONCLUDE IS THAT HE DOESN'T WANT HIS OWN PERSONAL PUBLIC IMAGE ISSUES TO REFLECT BADLY ON SOMALIA'S WORTHINESS AS A CAUSE.  SO HE MAINLY IS HIGHLIGHTING THE PLIGHT OF SOMALIA AND LETTING THE PUBLIC DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES IF THEY WANT TO DONATE OR NOT.  AND BY NOT ISSUING CHALLANGES AND POSTING THERMOMETERS AND OFFERING SIGNED FIELD NOTES AND EXCLUSIVE PICTURES, HE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE JUST "WORKING" HIS FAN BASE, BUT IMPARTING VALUABLE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.

FRANNIE, I think you're right.  This is a reflection of Clay's unselfishness and dedication to causes he believes in.  Personally I'm happy he hasn't turned this current UNICEF fund-raiser into another "pep rally" for his fans.  I think he's probably as embarassed as we are by all of this cult-like "blind obedience" demonstrated by so many of the OTT fans.  In my mind he is in the fund-raising business for the long-haul. I don't believe he considers his stint with UNICEF as one of a list of "resume enhancers".  (as I suspect a hopefully small number of other entertainers do).   I still envision him as the next Jerry Lewis, dedicating his life to his "pet cause"  (Autism?  "Inclusion"? Starving children?  Who knows?)  He has the talent, the charisma and the smarts to pull it off, for sure.  And I think he can continue to have a brilliant entertaining career at the same time, just as Jerry Lewis has over the decades.

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SOMETHING DOES SEEM OUT OF SYNC THO.  IN NONE OF THE PICTURES HE IS IN DO WE SEE ANY OF THE MISERY THAT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED--JUST JOYFULNESS.  THE ONLY REALLY MISERABLE PICTURES ARE WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE MEDIA OR ON YOUTUBE.  IS HE TRYING TO SAY THAT UNICEF HAS MADE THE JOY POSSIBLE AND DONATIONS ARE NEEDED TO CONTINUE THAT?  I'M FINDING THIS CONFUSING.

Based on my observations, this is a common way to publicize a cause.  Let the news broadcasts show us the misery and hopelessness of this tragedy.  And then let a legitimate organization such as UNICEF show that there is, indeed, hope for these children through our contributions.



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 17, 2008, 11:59:34 AM
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WELL HERE IS SOMETHING WONDERFUL  THERESA AND I SHARE AN ANNIVERSARY TODAY.  IT IS ONE YEAR AGO TODAY THAT WE EACH HAD THAT GORGEOUS MAN'S ARMS WRAPPED AROUND US AND THAT STUBBLY FACE NEXT TO OURS.       

THAT, MY FRIENDS, IS WORTH A WHHHHOOOOOOLLLLLLEEEEEEE LOT.

GWENN

You lucky ducks!  Happy Anniversary!!!!  :confetti :cele


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 17, 2008, 12:04:23 PM
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I THINK MANY OF WISH WE DIDN'T CARE SO MUCH.  BUT WE DO AND AS JILL HAS TAUGHT ME SO WELL, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO THOSE FEELINGS.

JILL is right.  We need to acknowledge and accept those feelings as legitimate, and in my mind it's OK to care so much as long as it doesn't get in the way of of our non-Clay lives.  And for me at least, that can sometimes be quite a challenge.  :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 17, 2008, 12:06:45 PM
Gwinn! I had to do some work this morning. Yes I have a real job!  :smile So just getting to the thread.

Thanks for the welcome.

Yeah I worked in the "business" - whaddya wanna know?  :para

Shelley

PS  I agree that Clay is in "joy" mode and it's perfect to see those pictures of hope. I donated twice too.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 17, 2008, 12:41:00 PM
JUST BACK FROM MAH JONGG.  WON 3 GAMES.  IT WAS FUN.

THIS THREAD HAS BECOME SO INTERESTING.  I ENJOY READING EVERYONE'S OPINIONS AND POV.  FOR SURE, THIS FUND RAISER IS NOT ABOUT US.  MAYBE THAT IS A GOOD THING.

SUNNY-- :wink :hugg :lmao

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 17, 2008, 12:55:48 PM
GWENN - I keep spelling your name wrong! sorry 'bout that.  :sigh


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 17, 2008, 01:33:45 PM
OH MY LORD.  I JUST GOT ANOTHER EMAIL FROM THE UNICEF GUY TELLING ME HE IS PASSING ON MY MESSAGE.  I REALLY DIDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.  I AM ASSUMING HE MEANT TO CLAY.  I BET I END UP ON "THE LIST."   :blush :naughty :spank2 :oh :dunno :doh

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 17, 2008, 01:36:54 PM
OH MY LORD.  I JUST GOT ANOTHER EMAIL FROM THE UNICEF GUY TELLING ME HE IS PASSING ON MY MESSAGE.  I REALLY DIDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.  I AM ASSUMING HE MEANT TO CLAY.  I BET I END UP ON "THE LIST."   :blush :naughty :spank2 :oh :dunno :doh

GWENN

Oh, you've done it now! 'Good thing you already had an M&G! :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 17, 2008, 01:47:57 PM
OH MY LORD.  I JUST GOT ANOTHER EMAIL FROM THE UNICEF GUY TELLING ME HE IS PASSING ON MY MESSAGE.  I REALLY DIDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.  I AM ASSUMING HE MEANT TO CLAY.  I BET I END UP ON "THE LIST."   :blush :naughty :spank2 :oh :dunno :doh

GWENN

Oh, you've done it now! 'Good thing you already had an M&G! :lol

I REALLY NEED TO LEARN TO KEEP MY VERY LARGE MOUTH SHUT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 17, 2008, 02:07:52 PM
OH MY LORD.  I JUST GOT ANOTHER EMAIL FROM THE UNICEF GUY TELLING ME HE IS PASSING ON MY MESSAGE.  I REALLY DIDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.  I AM ASSUMING HE MEANT TO CLAY.  I BET I END UP ON "THE LIST."   :blush :naughty :spank2 :oh :dunno :doh

GWENN

Oh, you've done it now! 'Good thing you already had an M&G! :lol

I REALLY NEED TO LEARN TO KEEP MY VERY LARGE MOUTH SHUT.

GWENN

 :clap :clap  GWENN  . . YOU ARE FOLLOWING CLAY'S ADVICE TO "USE YOUR VOICE"!  :hugg

I wonder if you will hear from the Unicef gentleman AFTER he passes your message on.   :bouncy


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 17, 2008, 03:04:11 PM

    Wisconsinmaniac,
                                  I wish Clay would read the Claymaniaces instead of OFC. He would
   see how loving and supportive we are, but honest about our feelings in a kind way.
          I really feel the nasty and cruel remarks given so hastily on OFC caused him to
     withdraw from us.
                                               Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 17, 2008, 03:08:41 PM



                           YUP GWENN BUT AT LEAST CLAY WILL KNOW WE ARE TALKING AMONGST OURSELVES MIGHT BE A GOOD THING, MAYBE HE WILL E-MAIL YOU. :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 17, 2008, 03:27:00 PM
I wonder if you will hear from the Unicef gentleman AFTER he passes your message on.   :bouncy

Oh, no, now she'll probably hear from Clay--and boy, is he gonna be p*ssed! :hissy :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 17, 2008, 03:33:03 PM

    Wisconsinmaniac,
                                  I wish Clay would read the Claymaniaces instead of OFC. He would
   see how loving and supportive we are, but honest about our feelings in a kind way.
          I really feel the nasty and cruel remarks given so hastily on OFC caused him to
     withdraw from us.
                                               Betty

BETTY - I agree.  When the TMZ story broke, the fans were shocked. If indeed Jaymes was online at the OFC that night, many of the remarks just had to be so hurtful.  Of course, I do not know how Clay feels, but I do wonder if that altered any plans of communicating some kind of a message (on any topic) to his fans via the OFC.  We know he doesn't respond to tabloids, etc., but I feel that perhaps we would have gotten a few words about something.  

I really wonder when we will actually hear from Clay.  I truly want to believe that he has turned all of his attention to his personal life and that he is very happy. I hope he is spending time with people who love him . . . . and I also hope that career moves are being planned.

He deserves happiness  . . and if he comes up with some special career plans . . we will ALL be happy! :bouncy


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 17, 2008, 03:35:34 PM
I wish Clay would read the Claymaniaces instead of OFC. He would
   see how loving and supportive we are

Yeah!

C'mere, Clay. :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: PHILLYLUVSCLAY on July 17, 2008, 03:50:41 PM
WELL HERE IS SOMETHING WONDERFUL  THERESA AND I SHARE AN ANNIVERSARY TODAY.  IT IS ONE YEAR AGO TODAY THAT WE EACH HAD THAT GORGEOUS MAN'S ARMS WRAPPED AROUND US AND THAT STUBBLY FACE NEXT TO OURS.   :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud

THAT, MY FRIENDS, IS WORTH A WHHHHOOOOOOLLLLLLEEEEEEE LOT.

GWENN

:yeahthat

:yes

:luv

 :thud

 :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mrs. c. on July 17, 2008, 04:06:53 PM
WELL HERE IS SOMETHING WONDERFUL  THERESA AND I SHARE AN ANNIVERSARY TODAY.  IT IS ONE YEAR AGO TODAY THAT WE EACH HAD THAT GORGEOUS MAN'S ARMS WRAPPED AROUND US AND THAT STUBBLY FACE NEXT TO OURS.   :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud

THAT, MY FRIENDS, IS WORTH A WHHHHOOOOOOLLLLLLEEEEEEE LOT.

GWENN

:yeahthat

:yes

:luv

 :thud

 :bigsmile

Well you two fangirly kids~~~ :anni All I've managed so far is an eye frell :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 17, 2008, 04:19:07 PM
I have another thought (for whatever that's worth) about the fund raiser for UNICEF.  Along with a lot of other possibilities that have already been mentioned, I wonder if the state of the economy had anything to do with his decision.  He has to know that a lot of people are worried about keeping their homes and their jobs, paying utility bills and about buying food and gas so he may have wanted to keep the request for contributions a little lower key so no one felt bad if they couldn't give much.  Maybe Gwenn will get an answer from UNICEF and we'll all find out.

Now on another note, one year ago today I met a lot of Claymaniacs for the first time--Sunny, Marilyn, Susy, Gwenn, Jill, Micki, Philly and so many more (sorry I don't remember everyone's name).  Just being there and hearing Gwenn say over and over "I'm dying here"    :bigsmile   was worth the trip and, of course, there was the matter of a great concert by one heck of an entertainer.   I loved the whole trip.  It was certainly the beginning of a great summer and I hope we have one like it next summer.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 17, 2008, 04:20:09 PM
i have a feeling that clay is ok and besides those people who posted those things on the OFC are not true fans


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 17, 2008, 05:30:17 PM
WELL HERE IS SOMETHING WONDERFUL  THERESA AND I SHARE AN ANNIVERSARY TODAY.  IT IS ONE YEAR AGO TODAY THAT WE EACH HAD THAT GORGEOUS MAN'S ARMS WRAPPED AROUND US AND THAT STUBBLY FACE NEXT TO OURS.   :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud

THAT, MY FRIENDS, IS WORTH A WHHHHOOOOOOLLLLLLEEEEEEE LOT.

GWENN

:yeahthat

:yes

:luv

 :thud

 :bigsmile

Well-said, Philly. :lol :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 17, 2008, 05:51:30 PM
OH MY LORD.  I JUST GOT ANOTHER EMAIL FROM THE UNICEF GUY TELLING ME HE IS PASSING ON MY MESSAGE.  I REALLY DIDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.  I AM ASSUMING HE MEANT TO CLAY.  I BET I END UP ON "THE LIST."   :blush :naughty :spank2 :oh :dunno :doh

GWENN

Oh, you've done it now! 'Good thing you already had an M&G! :lol

I REALLY NEED TO LEARN TO KEEP MY VERY LARGE MOUTH SHUT.

GWENN

Please don't -it will make life very boring for those of us who read about it.  :lol

I think its great that you said something- nothing wrong with it. Whats even more wonderful is that UNICEF responded to you AND passed along the message. All that can happen is that Clay will say yes or no. Its not a bad thing at all. I thought it was fun to watch the thermometer. And I am leaning toward agreeing with you in that Clay may feel that fans are upset, angry, or pulling away-ESPECIALLY if all he reads is the OFC. I am not putting the board there down at all, but I find some of the posters to be continually vicious and vitriolic, and it doesnt make me want to visit a lot. I wonder if thats why Clay has not blogged or paid much attention to the club. Its a shame, really. I would love for it to be a better place where we CAN learn about whats happening with Clay- that which he WANTS us to know, of course. Lets hope he puts that wonderfully huge foot down and straightens the site up before too long. He can make it a summer project (after his vacation)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 17, 2008, 05:52:54 PM
I wonder if you will hear from the Unicef gentleman AFTER he passes your message on.   :bouncy

Oh, no, now she'll probably hear from Clay--and boy, is he gonna be p*ssed! :hissy :wink

I dunno- pissy Clay sort of turns me on. So does calm Clay, hot Clay, teacher Clay..........................um, nevah mind. :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 17, 2008, 06:15:40 PM
Marilyn wrote:
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And I am leaning toward agreeing with you in that Clay may feel that fans are upset, angry, or pulling away-ESPECIALLY if all he reads is the OFC. I am not putting the board there down at all, but I find some of the posters to be continually vicious and vitriolic, and it doesnt make me want to visit a lot. I wonder if thats why Clay has not blogged


He should blog here. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 17, 2008, 06:23:39 PM



                                     OR AT LEAST CALL ME ITS BEEN AGES SINCE WE CHATTED. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 17, 2008, 06:35:52 PM
Marilyn wrote:
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And I am leaning toward agreeing with you in that Clay may feel that fans are upset, angry, or pulling away-ESPECIALLY if all he reads is the OFC. I am not putting the board there down at all, but I find some of the posters to be continually vicious and vitriolic, and it doesnt make me want to visit a lot. I wonder if thats why Clay has not blogged


He should blog here. :wink

Amen, sister Claymaniacs!!!  (oops...don't wish to exclude Jerry, Michael and any other fellows!) :clap  :bigsmile  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on July 17, 2008, 06:41:41 PM
I'm surprised that the OFC allows people to speak that poorly of Clay.  That would never be tolerated here!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 17, 2008, 07:19:02 PM
And I am leaning toward agreeing with you in that Clay may feel that fans are upset, angry, or pulling away-ESPECIALLY if all he reads is the OFC. I am not putting the board there down at all, but I find some of the posters to be continually vicious and vitriolic, and it doesnt make me want to visit a lot. I wonder if thats why Clay has not blogged or paid much attention to the club. Its a shame, really. I would love for it to be a better place where we CAN learn about whats happening with Clay- that which he WANTS us to know, of course. Lets hope he puts that wonderfully huge foot down and straightens the site up before too long. He can make it a summer project (after his vacation)


If things were as bad as it has been reported, Clay was probably furious when he read or was told the things that were being said at the OFC.   It doesn't sound like people were acting too much like fans that night so he obviously decided to just stay away for a while.  If his fans had no respect for him or Jaymes, I guess he felt like he owed us nothing.  I do believe that he knows all fans are not like that and, hopefully, he will figure out some way to communicate with us and the fans will react with a little more tact.  He gets this from the tabloids, he shouldn't get it from us too.

It's a shame we all are being punished for the actions of a few. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 17, 2008, 07:44:17 PM
WHAT IN WORLD COULD THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING??!!  THEY ALL KNOW HOW PEOPLE'S WORDS HAVE HURT HIM SO BADLY IN THE PAST..HOW COULD THEY BE PART OF MORE PAIN??    HEARTLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 17, 2008, 07:58:24 PM
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OR AT LEAST CALL ME ITS BEEN AGES SINCE WE CHATTED.


 :lmao  GLORY, isn't it great to live in the State of Delusion??  May I join you there???  :bubble

WILSON BARB, hopefully next year.  In the meantime I hope to lose 100 lbs nad have all of us win the lottery.
And I am leaning toward agreeing with you in that Clay may feel that fans are upset, angry, or pulling away-ESPECIALLY if all he reads is the OFC. I am not putting the board there down at all, but I find some of the posters to be continually vicious and vitriolic, and it doesnt make me want to visit a lot. I wonder if thats why Clay has not blogged or paid much attention to the club. Its a shame, really. I would love for it to be a better place where we CAN learn about whats happening with Clay- that which he WANTS us to know, of course. Lets hope he puts that wonderfully huge foot down and straightens the site up before too long. He can make it a summer project (after his vacation)


If things were as bad as it has been reported, Clay was probably furious when he read or was told the things that were being said at the OFC.   It doesn't sound like people were acting too much like fans that night so he obviously decided to just stay away for a while.  If his fans had no respect for him or Jaymes, I guess he felt like he owed us nothing.  I do believe that he knows all fans are not like that and, hopefully, he will figure out some way to communicate with us and the fans will react with a little more tact.  He gets this from the tabloids, he shouldn't get it from us too.

It's a shame we all are being punished for the actions of a few. 

I agree that we shouldn't all be lumped together, WILSON BARB.  Most of us are ordinary people leading normal busy, hard-working lives who happened to have fallen in love with Clay Aiken the man and the entertainer. 

As to the OFC, I think they need to undergo some major "housecleaning" starting with the webmaster and going all the way down to the moderators of the individual threads.  Why is it that our PAMELA and her fellow mods have managed to squelch potential volatile situations while things rage out of control over at the OFC on almost a daily basis?   It's not rocket science, for sure.  It's called good management. :bduh When is Team Clay going to get their act together?

 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 17, 2008, 08:01:14 PM
WHAT IN WORLD COULD THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING??!!  THEY ALL KNOW HOW PEOPLE'S WORDS HAVE HURT HIM SO BADLY IN THE PAST..HOW COULD THEY BE PART OF MORE PAIN??    HEARTLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When some people are surprised, shocked, angry, or disappointed, their main concern is their own feelings--not those of someone else. Especially if that person is behind their surprise, shock, anger, or disappointment.

They knew Clay might scan the OFC for comments. I think a lot of what was written was simply knee-jerk reaction. "What he's done has hurt me, so I'm gonna hurt him back!"


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 17, 2008, 08:02:09 PM
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I dunno- pissy Clay sort of turns me on. So does calm Clay, hot Clay, teacher Clay..........................um, nevah mind.


Keep going, MARILYN,  you're just getting started!!!  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 17, 2008, 08:03:34 PM
Why is it that our PAMELA and her fellow mods have managed to squelch potential volatile situations while things rage out of control over at the OFC on almost a daily basis? 

Fear. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 17, 2008, 08:05:33 PM
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I think a lot of what was written was simply knee-jerk reaction. "What he's done has hurt me, so I'm gonna hurt him back!"


SUNNY, I agree that a lot of it was "knee-jerk reaction"....but in this instance it  is the knee-jerk reaction of  somebody with the emotional age of 12.  :bduh


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 17, 2008, 08:06:33 PM
Why is it that our PAMELA and her fellow mods have managed to squelch potential volatile situations while things rage out of control over at the OFC on almost a daily basis? 

Fear. :lol

Can't argue with that, SUNNY!!!  :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 17, 2008, 08:06:57 PM
SUNNY, I agree that a lot of it was "knee-jerk reaction"....but in this instance it  is the knee-jerk reaction of  somebody with the emotional age of 12, not an adult!

Oh yeah. There wasn't much maturity or insight in most of the posts I saw. :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 17, 2008, 08:13:43 PM
I agree re: OFC. I joined just as all of this broke loose and it's STILL nuts over there. I was shocked when I started over here at the difference in TONE from the OFC.   :naughty You gals (and guys) are awesome.  :bouncy I have no interest in renewing my OFC membership. What a waste of time. If that's where Clay use to spend all his time re: his fans, that's a shame. I feel fans here are honest but respectful.  :clap

Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 17, 2008, 08:21:41 PM
I feel fans here are honest but respectful. 

And we're good-lookin', too. :slick


So, Ms. lulu/Shelley,

What exactly did you used to do in The Biz? <pulls up a chair to settle in and listen>


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 17, 2008, 08:30:17 PM


                           SUNNY I WAS NEVER IN THE BIZ :roflmao OH YOU WERE TALKING TO SHELLEY. :smile

                          THEA YES JOIN ME WE CAN DELUTE TOGETHER. :lol

                             I LOVE YOU GUYS. AND CLAY TO. I WON'T BE RENEWING EITHER I CAN BUY A HALF TANK OF GAS WITH 30.00 :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 17, 2008, 08:59:09 PM
hi every wonderful person on these boards.  maybe you can help me.  i was asking around on the aiken news network, i wanted to know if anyone could tell me why clay does'nt like the song touch?  and why he won't sing it.  anybody know?  anybody got any ideas?  please, help out a fellow clay lover!  thanks so much
liz (M2)   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 17, 2008, 09:04:01 PM
Glory:   :purpbana Only beautiful people on this board, right?

Sindancer:  Oy! Well, for starters I was a professional singer., Started in opera but ended up in - gasp - musical theatre. Only because I could sing, not because I could act.  :roflmao

Then to make a long story short, I worked for the President of Capitol Records in Hollywood for 9 years so yeah I've been on the "inside", so to speak.   :smile

Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 17, 2008, 09:04:33 PM
OOPS I called Sundancer SIN dancer!   :thud


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 17, 2008, 09:09:33 PM
Glory: I agree GAS prices are AWFUL but I need to get to work everyday so OFC will just be lucking out.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 17, 2008, 10:19:27 PM
OOPS I called Sundancer SIN dancer!   :thud

Oh mah goodness. Does it show? :slick :wink :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 17, 2008, 10:23:16 PM
Sindancer:  Oy! Well, for starters I was a professional singer., Started in opera but ended up in - gasp - musical theatre. Only because I could sing, not because I could act.  :roflmao

Then to make a long story short, I worked for the President of Capitol Records in Hollywood for 9 years so yeah I've been on the "inside", so to speak.   :smile

Shelley
Thanks for sharing. It sounds like you've had an interesting career. You may have just become our Consultant on Inside Stuff. :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 17, 2008, 10:50:57 PM
Glory:   :purpbana Only beautiful people on this board, right?

Sindancer:  Oy! Well, for starters I was a professional singer., Started in opera but ended up in - gasp - musical theatre. Only because I could sing, not because I could act.  :roflmao

Then to make a long story short, I worked for the President of Capitol Records in Hollywood for 9 years so yeah I've been on the "inside", so to speak.   :smile

Shelley

Good golly girl...I bet you've been privy to fascinating tale or two...  :wink  Glad you found your way over here to join in the Clay fun with us...and while I'm at it...a hearty welcome to all the new posters in this thread...  :wave :purpbana (during the school year, I'm not able to post on this site during the work day...aren't you all lucky that I've got lots of time on my hands now...no?  uh oh!   :smile)

ETA:  I was in the midst of closing out school and related drama during the explosive state at the OFC...I've been a bit curious...(they closed the threads long before I heard about things over there) and while I'm just as glad I didn't actually read the harsh posts...could some one PM me with a bit of the tenor of the initial fan reaction shared over at that site.  I'm just trying to get a sense of things... what was expressed to Clay and Jaymes for starters...


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 18, 2008, 06:29:46 AM
I meant to post this yesterday.  On another board it was reported that Korea is running commercials for the Olympics, and in the background is playing On My Way Here!!!!    :purpbana :cheer :cheer2 :fruit


Do we even dare to hope that it will be played during the games, or that Clay would perform it in the opening or closing ceremonies?  Think of the exposure!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 18, 2008, 06:48:21 AM
 :wave

Good Morning!

No time to read back except for this page, but I got so bored yesterday that I went over to the OFC - that is, for me, always a mistake - I'm never happy after I've been there  :para

I have been meaning to mention that Shirl was called by the Marriott Corporation this week. I don't know how many of you have reservations at the new hotel where the Gala will be held in October (Shirl made her reservations as soon as the Gala was announced - even though tickets won't go on sale for another 10 days). Anyway, Shirl was told that the hotel, like many new hotels, is having problems and will not open on schedule - will be sometime in August instead of this month. The hotel does not have its computer up and running, either, so she was not given a confirmation number as promised. This makes no sense to me - why isn't the Mariott computer system that is in existence handling things for the new hotel until it is up and running!? She was assured that she still has a room, but no confirmation number.  Anyway, she wondered if anyone else was called, and I told her I would ask.

lovinclay - I got that information (about the Olympics) in a Google alert, too - I hope Clay has something to do with the Olympics - would love to see him at the opening ceremony!  :bouncy

Hve a great TGIF, everybody!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 18, 2008, 07:10:54 AM
JUST STOPPING BY.  INCREDIBLY FUN AND BUSY DAY TODAY.  BREAKFAST WITH A FRIEND, THEN WE ARE OFF TO MEET ANOTHER FOR MOMMA MIA, THEN OFF TO MEET 2 OTHERS FOR DRINKS.  DID I SAY I LOVE FRIDAYS?

ANYWAY, AS TO TOUCH--CLAY SAID HE DIDN'T LIKE THE SONG.  JUST DIDN'T LIKE IT AND WOULD NEVER SING IT AGAIN.  AFTER THE RACY AND SEXUAL STUFF AT THE LAST FEW CONCERT SERIES, I DOUBT IT WAS JUST THE SEXUAL STUFF IN TOUCH.  I BET CLIVE SAID SING IT.  HE SAID IF I HAVE TO ON THE CD BUT I WILL NEVER SING IT AGAIN.  I DON'T CARE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.  I THINK MR. STUBBORN JUST TOOK ONE OF HIS STUPID STANDS ON SOMETHING.  HE SURE ISN'T PURE ANYMORE.  HASN'T BEEN FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.  AND FOR THAT, I MYSELF, AM GLAD. 

AS FOR THE MARRIOTT, THAT IS ANNOYING.  MARION HAS OUR RESERVATIONS AND SINCE SHE IS OFF IN CALIFORNIA, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT.  I JUST WANT A TICKET TO THE GALA.

MICKI--I READ THAT ALSO ABOUT KOREA.  SOUTHEAST ASIA LOVES THEM SOME CLAY AIKEN.  MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, HE WILL BE SINGING  AT THE OLYMPICS.  AND MAYBE THAT IS WHAT FAYE WAS REFERRING TO.  HOW COOL WOULD THAT BE?????????

OF COURSE, THE TIMING WOULD NOT BE WONDERFUL FOR THE BABY.  BUT SINCE IT IS PROBABLY GONNA BE A C-SECTION, MAYBE SHE COULD SCHEDULE ACCORDINGLY.  WHO KNOWS.  MORE CRAP TO SPECULATE ABOUT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 18, 2008, 07:11:30 AM
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I meant to post this yesterday.  On another board it was reported that Korea is running commercials for the Olympics, and in the background is playing On My Way Here!!!!      


MICKI, my heart skipped a couple of beats when I read your post! :shocked  I want to remain optimistic that "On My Way Here" will be the theme song for the Olympics (or at least be played in the opening ceremonies), but I wonder why they haven't been playing it as they advertise the Olympics here in the USA.  It sure beats 99% of the other current singles out there, so I agree that this would be a perfect choice for the Olympics.

This is a little ray of hope that I think we all need desperately.  Let's hope something materializes!!!

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"For the passion and love that we make," "while I drown in your body,"  "I've imagined the feel of your body and how it will be when we move,"  "let's keep the mood nice and slow, " "let's make the moment last..."  


MAINER, be still my heart.  I haven't thought about those lyrics in a very long time.   I'm sitting at my computer  :thud ing.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 18, 2008, 08:19:37 AM
JUST STOPPING BY.  INCREDIBLY FUN AND BUSY DAY TODAY.  BREAKFAST WITH A FRIEND, THEN WE ARE OFF TO MEET ANOTHER FOR MOMMA MIA, THEN OFF TO MEET 2 OTHERS FOR DRINKS.  DID I SAY I LOVE FRIDAYS?  :yeahthat

ANYWAY, AS TO TOUCH--CLAY SAID HE DIDN'T LIKE THE SONG.  JUST DIDN'T LIKE IT AND WOULD NEVER SING IT AGAIN.  AFTER THE RACY AND SEXUAL STUFF AT THE LAST FEW CONCERT SERIES, I DOUBT IT WAS JUST THE SEXUAL STUFF IN TOUCH.  I BET CLIVE SAID SING IT.  HE SAID IF I HAVE TO ON THE CD BUT I WILL NEVER SING IT AGAIN.  I DON'T CARE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.  I THINK MR. STUBBORN JUST TOOK ONE OF HIS STUPID STANDS ON SOMETHING.  HE SURE ISN'T PURE ANYMORE.  HASN'T BEEN FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.  AND FOR THAT, I MYSELF, AM GLAD.    :blush

AS FOR THE MARRIOTT, THAT IS ANNOYING.  MARION HAS OUR RESERVATIONS AND SINCE SHE IS OFF IN CALIFORNIA, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT.  I JUST WANT A TICKET TO THE GALA.

MICKI--I READ THAT ALSO ABOUT KOREA.  SOUTHEAST ASIA LOVES THEM SOME CLAY AIKEN.  MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, HE WILL BE SINGING  AT THE OLYMPICS.  AND MAYBE THAT IS WHAT FAYE WAS REFERRING TO.  HOW COOL WOULD THAT BE?????????
OF COURSE, THE TIMING WOULD NOT BE WONDERFUL FOR THE BABY.  BUT SINCE IT IS PROBABLY GONNA BE A C-SECTION, MAYBE SHE COULD SCHEDULE ACCORDINGLY.  WHO KNOWS.  MORE CRAP TO SPECULATE ABOUT.

GWENN

Thanks for the latest posts over here... the possibility of some good news on the horizon is certainly lifiting my spirits this morning...and thanks to a fellow Claymaniac for her PM...I now more fully understand what was said at the OFC back when the baby rumor/news broke...which was indeed sobering to put it mildly! 

Singing at the Olympics?   Now that would be just fantastic!!!  Great thought Gwenn...let's hope for that!!!  :clap

I'm off to visit friends too...it will be good to get out and we may see Sex and the City... for me, the second time...hey, it's got some pretty visuals in it!...  :blush  :naughty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 18, 2008, 09:55:11 AM
I WAS JUST BACK READING SOME OF CLAY'S OLD BLOGS.  WHAT A SWEET, GENUINE, CARING, OPEN RELATIONSHIP HE ONCE HAD WITH HIS FANS.  SOME OF THEM ACTUALLY BROUGHT TEARS TO MY EYES.  I HATE TO THINK THAT THIS IS PERMANENTLY GONE. I HOPE NOT. HE WAS SO GIVING. HE REALLY WAS.  I HATE THAT "WAS' PART. :(


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 18, 2008, 10:14:29 AM
Hello everyone. Love the idea of CLAY AT OLYMPICS!  :bouncy

Thanks for asking me (whoever that was?) to be THE INSIDER - whatever that means!. I have NO inside knowledge of OMC BUT I can certainly talk about being a singer myself, working for a record company,etc. It's definitely different now than when I was out there in the public eye. No videos, Cds and DVDs, no internet or youtube, etc.  The only way to get info on a singer if you were a fan was to a) go to concerts (which were plentiful) and b) join a fan club.

I missed the "baby" OFC thread - it was shut down just when I came on board so I can only guess what they said about Jaymes and Clay. But what is still there is awful Just so disrespectful and childish.

 I am off to a meeting in a minute so can't get back on line until this afternoon.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 18, 2008, 10:15:59 AM
OOPS I called Sundancer SIN dancer!   Thud!

Oh mah goodness. Does it show? Wink Laughing


Um......maybe?  :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 18, 2008, 10:16:22 AM
I WAS JUST BACK READING SOME OF CLAY'S OLD BLOGS.  WHAT A SWEET, GENUINE, CARING, OPEN RELATIONSHIP HE ONCE HAD WITH HIS FANS.  SOME OF THEM ACTUALLY BROUGHT TEARS TO MY EYES.  I HATE TO THINK THAT THIS IS PERMANENTLY GONE. I HOPE NOT. HE WAS SO GIVING. HE REALLY WAS.  I HATE THAT "WAS' PART. :(

I think there will again be a good relationship with Clay and his fans. It is so evident that he loves (most of) us.  Always expressed gratitude for what we have done to support his career. It is my feeling that he may be more cautious about how "open" his relationship with his fans will be in the future. Some very close fans (not just the very young fans) from the OFC and a few other boards started to be very demanding and judgmental of Clay on their message boards and in response to his blogs. It is almost like they "turned on him" because they were unhappy with song selections, venue choices, even his decision to do Spamalot. Some of them, he almost knew personally because they attended many of his concerts and other functions. This was well before the TMZ shocker in May of this year. Then it really hit the fan . . . or should I say "the fandom". :blush

I feel Clay is still the warm and caring man that we love and respect (and desperately miss). He will connect with his fans once again . . . but he may be more cautious. (Just my opinion . . could be way off base).  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 18, 2008, 12:24:52 PM
Wisconsinmaniac,
       
                     I think you are right, the "fans" involved seem to expect Clay to conform to
     whatever they want. He is an intelligent man and has a right to live his own life. He
     has always had a good rapport with his fans and has given us so many wonderful
     moments. He has never said he is perfect and we should not put him on a pedestal.
     He is just a wonderful human being. How sad he is so maligned.
                                                                     Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 18, 2008, 12:51:23 PM
Wisconsinmaniac,
       
                     I think you are right, the "fans" involved seem to expect Clay to conform to
     whatever they want. He is an intelligent man and has a right to live his own life. He
     has always had a good rapport with his fans and has given us so many wonderful
     moments. He has never said he is perfect and we should not put him on a pedestal.
     He is just a wonderful human being. How sad he is so maligned.
                                                                     Betty

That's why I love Claymaniacs.  We also continue to voice some of our concerns regarding different aspects of Clay and/or his career . . . but we always are reminded that it is HIS life and HIS decisions. 

All in all, we are usually in agreement that he has taken us on quite a journey!  It seems like we are all waiting to see where that journey will take us next.  :hypno

BTW, Betty - I am the other Barb or Barbara here at Claymaniacs.  I wasn't very original when I chose wisconsinmaniac as my user name. :bduh


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Petjen on July 18, 2008, 01:18:52 PM
hi every wonderful person on these boards.  maybe you can help me.  i was asking around on the aiken news network, i wanted to know if anyone could tell me why clay does'nt like the song touch?  and why he won't sing it.  anybody know?  anybody got any ideas?  please, help out a fellow clay lover!  thanks so much
liz (M2)   

I'd like to know the answer to that question too.   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 18, 2008, 01:26:13 PM
 Speaking about the Olympics. I just looked it up.  The opening !ceremonies will be three and
   a half hours long and the details are being carefull guarded. Now the However!! There will be
   a special Olympic ceremony included for people with disabilities and Acrobats was mentioned.
   Methinks, the Cd we have been teased with called the Acrobats could have meaning.Could be just
    wishful thinking but one never knows.We don"t know the whys and wherefores of the
   baby rumors so it could be possible. I just hope it"s safe in China.
                       Forever the optomist!!!!!
                                                                               Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 01:32:53 PM
That's it! :bouncy  The new direction his mom hinted that his career would be taking! :bouncy

Clay's gonna be an Olympic acrobat! :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mrs. c. on July 18, 2008, 02:13:04 PM
That's it! :bouncy  The new direction his mom hinted that his career would be taking! :bouncy

Clay's gonna be an Olympic acrobat! :bigsmile

I don't drop in often, but my Sunny friend~~~~ :spit :spit that made me chuckle :clap


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 18, 2008, 02:15:04 PM
hi everyone


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 18, 2008, 02:46:08 PM

  Sundancer,
                  I"m not that much of a optomist. Thinking of Clay as an acrobat in tights.
     .Whoo! Whoo!
                                                     betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 02:48:34 PM

  Sundancer,
                  I"m not that much of a optomist. Thinking of Clay as an acrobat in tights.
     .Whoo! Whoo!
                                                     betty

Hey, if you're gonna dream, dream big.

(Isn't that right, Marilyn? :slick )


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 18, 2008, 03:12:58 PM



                                 WELL MY IRS PROBLEMS  ARE TAKEN CARE IN MY FAVOR I MIGHT ADD. :lol BIG BURDEN OFF ME.

                              I WOULD LOVE TO SEE CLAY TUMBLE. OR ON THE BALANCE BEAM IN TIGHTS OF COURSE. :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 18, 2008, 03:37:46 PM
GLORY !  Great news about your IRS woes! :clap  All better! :hugg

Trying to get a visual of Clay on a balance beam (in tights) with those huge  . . .feet! :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 18, 2008, 04:23:23 PM
WELL, I AM GLAD TO SEE THINGS ARE GOING ALONG SMOOTHLY.  ALWAYS NICE TO COME HERE AND HAVE SOME REAL HONEST TO GOD SMUT TO ENJOY.

CLAY IN TIGHTS.  WOW.  WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BACK WHEN SPAMALOT WAS FIRST ANNOUNCED.  SOME NICE VISUALS FOR SURE.

 
That's it! :bouncy  The new direction his mom hinted that his career would be taking! :bouncy

Clay's gonna be an Olympic acrobat! :bigsmile

NOW, THAT WOULD BE SO WORTH THE WAIT. :lmao :lmao :lmao

O/T --- YOU ALL MUST GO SEE MAMA MIA.  ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS.  I HAD A SMILE ON MY FACE THE WHOLE TIME.  WELL, OTHER THAN WHEN THERE WERE SOME TOUCHING MOTHER/DAUGHTER SCENES.  OR WHEN PIERCE BROSNAN WAS SHIRTLESS. :bigsmile  A WONDERFUL MOVIE. I WASN'T SURE HOW IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SINCE I SAW THE SHOW TWICE AND LOVED IT.  THIS WAS JUST SO GOOD.

AND THEN STRAWBERRY FROZEN MARGUERITAS.  NICE DAY.  NOW I AM BEAT. 

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 18, 2008, 04:25:04 PM
Sunny - Behave yourself    :bigsmile

Glory - Glad you came out on top in your IRS battle.

Barbara - Thanks for a couple of very insightful posts today.  I am so glad we can come here and discuss things.  Even though we don't all have the same opinion on everything (would be a very dull world if that was the case) we know when we come here that, regardless of our opinions, we will not be the victims of hateful comments.  Even when we may not understand the other side of an issue, we can usually discuss it rationally without hurting each other.

That's why this is such a special place -- all types of people, all types of opinions -- but we are all one big family.

Gotta go now and get packed for my trip to TX because I have to get up very early tomorrow morning.  I will be completely without computer access until I get back home next Wednesday night.  Hope there will be some kind of news by then--but I'm not going to hold my breath.

Keep up the good work here ladies.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 04:32:15 PM
Sunny - Behave yourself    :bigsmile

Who, me? I'm innocent, I say!

Innocent. :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 18, 2008, 04:37:02 PM
Sunny - Behave yourself    :bigsmile

Who, me? I'm innocent, I say!

Innocent. :slick

SURE, SUNNY, SURE.   :wink :naughty :bigsmile

GLORY--FORGOT TO SAY CONGRATS ON THE IRS THINGY.   :clap

WILSON BARB---HAVE A GOOD TRIP.

GWENN

ETA-- EVEN THOUGH MARION IS OFF IN SAN DIEGO, STOP ON BY AND WISH HER HAPPY BIRTHDAY.  THANKS, MICKI.   :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 18, 2008, 04:44:02 PM
Sunny - Behave yourself    :bigsmile

Who, me? I'm innocent, I say!

Innocent. :slick


I believe you 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 04:44:04 PM

                                 WELL MY IRS PROBLEMS  ARE TAKEN CARE IN MY FAVOR I MIGHT ADD. :lol BIG BURDEN OFF ME.
Congratulations, Glory! :purpbana


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                              I WOULD LOVE TO SEE CLAY TUMBLE. OR ON THE BALANCE BEAM IN TIGHTS OF COURSE. :lmao
Well, now, men don't do the beam. But they do the floor exercise. Maybe you would enjoy seeing him on the floor.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 04:49:45 PM
Sunny - Behave yourself    :bigsmile

Who, me? I'm innocent, I say!

Innocent. :slick

I believe you 

I sense skepticism.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 18, 2008, 04:52:58 PM
SKEPTICISM IS RIGHT, MS. SUNNY.

AND MEN WEAR THE NICEST OUTFITS WHEN THEY DO FLOOR.  YEAH, I WOULDN'T MIND HIM ON THE FLOOR.  D0ING........... :blush

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 18, 2008, 05:14:04 PM



                       WELL I COME HERE AND FIND SMUT AIN'T LIFE GRAND. :roflmao

                            I CAN SEE CLAY ROLLING AROUND ON THE FLOOR, WITH ME, :bigsmile

                          SUNNY WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS TO TURN YOU INTO A FEISTY  LITTLE GAL. MAYBE CLAY HAPPENED.

              I AM BEAT STRESS OF THE LAST FEW WEEKS GOT TO ME, I AM READY FOR MY COUCH AT 8 OCLOCK. O MIGHTY ONE MAY SLEEP FOR A WEEK. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 18, 2008, 05:26:33 PM
GWENN - Glad you gave two thumbs up for Mama Mia!  :clap  My daughter and I are thinking of going NEXT weekend.  We saw the traveling tour on stage in Appleton, WI, last January. Loved it.

BARBARA (Wilson) - Hope you have a wonderful mini-vacation in Texas.  Will you get any computer time??  Thanks for the kind comments.  I always read your posts and observations and I think we share more than the same first name.  :wink



 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 06:07:46 PM

                          SUNNY WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS TO TURN YOU INTO A FEISTY  LITTLE GAL.

I appreciate your use of the word "little." :wink

And I've always been feisty. :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 18, 2008, 06:12:53 PM
Sunny - Behave yourself    :bigsmile

Who, me? I'm innocent, I say!

Innocent. :slick

I believe you 

I sense skepticism.


Not skepticism -- admiration    :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 18, 2008, 06:18:52 PM

BARBARA (Wilson) - Hope you have a wonderful mini-vacation in Texas.  Will you get any computer time??  Thanks for the kind comments.  I always read your posts and observations and I think we share more than the same first name.  :wink
 


My son is in the IT business but I might be pushing it a little bit if I wanted to take over his computer to check on Clay.  I don't think I'll go that route because he might have me committed then and there.  :bigsmile    I also found out late this afternoon that all day Tuesday will pretty much be taken up with a funeral for DIL's stepfather who passed away this afternoon so this is not going to be just a pleasure trip.

Barb, I agree that we share much more than a name.  Good times will come again and we'll be ready.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 18, 2008, 06:29:40 PM


                              I WOULD LOVE TO SEE CLAY TUMBLE. OR ON THE BALANCE BEAM IN TIGHTS OF COURSE. :lmao

OKAY so I think I should take back my original "oops"  :para about calling you SINdancer - if the tights fit......  :lol

Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 18, 2008, 06:32:30 PM
Claydevotee and Corbet, If they are playing ON MY WAY HERE ,and Acrobats and disabilitities are mentioned, then I agree with you. I think we may be in for a wonderful surprise!!!!!!!!!! :purpbana :purpbana  :purpbana


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 06:34:36 PM


                              I WOULD LOVE TO SEE CLAY TUMBLE. OR ON THE BALANCE BEAM IN TIGHTS OF COURSE. :lmao

OKAY so I think I should take back my original "oops"  :para about calling you SINdancer - if the tights fit......  :lol

Shelley

I merely offered up an event in men's gymnastics for conversation.

Glory's the one who suggested tights!

I maintain my innocence. :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: aikenseeker on July 18, 2008, 06:44:02 PM
I maintain my innocence. :slick

Uh-huh righttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt Sunny you were leading Glory to it and you know it! LOL! :naughty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 18, 2008, 06:48:58 PM
Claydevotee and Corbet, If they are playing ON MY WAY HERE ,and Acrobats and disabilitities are mentioned, then I agree with you. I think we may be in for a wonderful surprise!!!!!!!!!! :purpbana :purpbana  :purpbana

I agree - wouldn't that be AWESOME! :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 18, 2008, 06:51:08 PM


                              I WOULD LOVE TO SEE CLAY TUMBLE. OR ON THE BALANCE BEAM IN TIGHTS OF COURSE. :lmao

OKAY so I think I should take back my original "oops"  :para about calling you SINdancer - if the tights fit......  :lol

Shelley



I merely offered up an event in men's gymnastics for conversation.

Glory's the one who suggested tights!

I maintain my innocence. :slick

That would be spelled in-no-SIN-ce! It keeps creeping back....... :smile
Did anyone mention uneven bars yet?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 06:55:32 PM
That would be spelled in-no-SIN-ce! It keeps creeping back....... :smile
Did anyone mention uneven bars yet?

Clay doesn't like bars, so... ha! :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 06:56:22 PM
I maintain my innocence. :slick

Uh-huh righttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt Sunny you were leading Glory to it and you know it! LOL! :naughty

Don't you have some Bucky-watching to do? :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 18, 2008, 06:58:42 PM
 :wave Ladies!

Just got in from a wonderful day out with friends!   :shappy

GWENN,  I'm glad to hear a "thumbs up" review of "Mama Mia".  That's definitely on my must-see list.  I'm such a fan of Meryl Streep and the thought of Pierce Brosnan (my 2ND favorite James Bond") going shirtless is certainly an added incentive!!!!

SUNNY, it looks like GLORY is trying to corrupt you again.  :lol   GLORY, it appears that you're still living in the State of Delusion!    I'm planning to return this weekend, believe me!!!
 :wave  SUSY!  :hugg :hugg :hugg  We need to give GLORY 20 lashes with a wet noodle posthaste!!!!   How's our favorite Buckster Babe????

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Claydevotee and Corbet, If they are playing ON MY WAY HERE ,and Acrobats and disabilitities are mentioned, then I agree with you. I think we may be in for a wonderful surprise!!!!!!!!!!    




LULASSAT and LOVE again,  Let's keep our fingers crossed!

Whoosh, suddenly I am exhausted and brain dead   :hypno , so I may have to call it a night early.  Love to all of ya!










Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 18, 2008, 06:59:24 PM
Ok where did everybody go??????  :wave Was it something I said? Or maybe it's just dinner time!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 18, 2008, 07:00:37 PM
That would be spelled in-no-SIN-ce! It keeps creeping back....... :smile
Did anyone mention uneven bars yet?

Clay doesn't like bars, so... ha! :wink


TOUCHE!  (Did I spell that right?)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 18, 2008, 07:01:31 PM

                     I DID NOTHIN I WEREN'T EVEN HERE  I GET LEAD  EASILY. :lol

                            SUNNY  DON'T BLAME ME .

              I THINK IT WOULD BE FUN TOI SEE CLAY ON A FLYING TRAPESE, IN TIGHTS OF COURSE., OR MAYBE SWIM TEAM THAT WOULD BE A ADVENTURE FOR HIM SINCE HE DOES NOT SWIM. I BETTER GO TO BED HUH. :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 18, 2008, 07:01:57 PM
Susy~ There was a picture of Bucky in the N&O today ...Article about the roster for the Fair.,and NO SUNNY ,I DID NOT SAY ROOSTER. :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 07:02:55 PM
SUNNY, it looks like GLORY is trying to corrupt you again.  :lol  

She's a sneaky one. :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 07:04:37 PM

                     I DID NOTHIN I WEREN'T EVEN HERE  I GET LEAD  EASILY. :lol

                            SUNNY  DON'T BLAME ME .

              I THINK IT WOULD BE FUN TOI SEE CLAY ON A FLYING TRAPESE, IN TIGHTS OF COURSE., OR MAYBE SWIM TEAM THAT WOULD BE A ADVENTURE FOR HIM SINCE HE DOES NOT SWIM. I BETTER GO TO BED HUH. :para

See that? Tights aren't enough anymore. Now, she wants speedos! :blush


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 07:05:25 PM
Susy~ There was a picture of Bucky in the N&O today ...Article about the roster for the Fair.,and NO SUNNY ,I DID NOT SAY ROOSTER. :bigsmile

No, that would have been aikenseeker. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 18, 2008, 07:05:45 PM

NOW I AM GETTING 20 LASHES BY THEA. :roflmao I HAPPEN TO PREFER MY LAND OF DELUSION, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOU ARE WELCOME TO JOIN ME ANYTIME THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM. :para :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 18, 2008, 07:06:12 PM
Quote
Tights aren't enough anymore. Now, she wants speedos!

Dare I ask what's next???  :slick :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 18, 2008, 07:08:31 PM
WILSON BARB, have a safe and enjoyable trip!!!! You will be missed if you don't check in!!!  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 18, 2008, 07:09:20 PM


                           A YEAR AGO WE GOT LAYERS THEN HE DISGARDED THE T-SHIRT ,NOW HES DOWN TO SPEEDO'S GET THE PICTURE. :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 18, 2008, 07:11:08 PM
We are all bad... :angel   :lol  but we sure do have fun!

They were just talking about Mama Mia on The Soup and I hear them mention Ruben and when I looked at the screen it was showing a picture of Clay ...did anybody catch what was said?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 18, 2008, 07:11:38 PM
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Tights aren't enough anymore. Now, she wants speedos!

Dare I ask what's next???  :slick :lmao

 :clap :clap :clap :clap


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: aikenseeker on July 18, 2008, 07:12:21 PM
Don't you have some Bucky-watching to do? :wink

LOL!

I can multi-task!

I think I'm a little ADHD! HEE!

And there's always some Bucky watching to do! Can't help it the man is hot! HEH!

I'm good Mamma Dev. Happy to be home early for a change!

Ahhhhhhhhhhh the fair!

I'm tempted to travel down for that trip. HEH!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: aikenseeker on July 18, 2008, 07:13:27 PM
Susy~ There was a picture of Bucky in the N&O today ...Article about the roster for the Fair.,and NO SUNNY ,I DID NOT SAY ROOSTER. :bigsmile

No, that would have been aikenseeker. :wink

Rooster? What? Rooster?

I didn't mention any rooster. HEH! :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 07:15:25 PM


                           A YEAR AGO WE GOT LAYERS THEN HE DISGARDED THE T-SHIRT ,NOW HES DOWN TO SPEEDO'S GET THE PICTURE. :bigsmile

No, but if you've got one, you need to share it. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 07:18:45 PM
Susy~ There was a picture of Bucky in the N&O today ...Article about the roster for the Fair.,and NO SUNNY ,I DID NOT SAY ROOSTER. :bigsmile

No, that would have been aikenseeker. :wink

Rooster? What? Rooster?

I didn't mention any rooster. HEH! :bigsmile

No, but I could hear you thinking about it from all the way down here in Raleigh! :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: aikenseeker on July 18, 2008, 07:19:07 PM
Snicker, now Sunny there is an image... do you think any part of Clay other than his hands, face, arms and neck ever actually sees the light of day?

 :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: aikenseeker on July 18, 2008, 07:20:20 PM
No, but I could hear you thinking about it from all the way down here in Raleigh! :lol

Snicker...

To quote you my dear... I'm Innocent I say!

INNOCENT!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 18, 2008, 07:22:07 PM
 :wave

Clay's horoscope for the week (I am going to take this over to the BLPT, too because Philly loves to read his horoscopes):

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In an ideal world you'd be jetting off to some exotic destination, but even if you're staying close to home, life won't be dull. You're at the center of an exciting controversy and you'll gain from it. And the meeting of the minds leads to a powerful physical attraction.

I think China counts as exotic.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 18, 2008, 07:22:56 PM

   Good Night everyone. I will  leave you to your fantasys. Dream of speedos or tights
   
     whichever you prefer. Either one does it for me.
     
                                                                Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 18, 2008, 07:23:14 PM

                                          SUNNY I AM NOT SHARING MY PICTURE ASK SUSY MAYBE SHE WILL SHARE BUCKY. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 07:23:30 PM
Snicker, now Sunny there is an image... do you think any part of Clay other than his hands, face, arms and neck ever actually sees the light of day?

 :para

I think... I will not be baited into answering this one. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 18, 2008, 07:23:31 PM
WELL, I SEE THERE ARE SOME "FEISTY" FOLKS HERE TONIGHT.  I HAVE BEEN WATCHING 20/20 AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE POLICE ARE INTO PEOPLE'S SEX LIVES AND THAT THIS COUNTRY IS THE ONLY ONE IN THE INDUSTRIALIZED WORLD WHERE ANYONE POLICES CONSENTING ADULTS.  THEY ARRESTED THE CHIPPENDALES IN LOBBECK TEXAS FOR NOTHING.  I THINK SOME FOLKS ARE HAVING SOME MAJOR PROBLEMS.

GOTTA SEE WHAT IS NEXT.   :bduh

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 18, 2008, 07:24:04 PM
Sunny ,do you listen to Wral Mix 101.5 ?  I just checked the songlist for today and On My Way Here was played twice, the last time was at 5:13pm...which is a great time slot.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: aikenseeker on July 18, 2008, 07:25:39 PM
LMAO!

Glory no fair holding out on us but I'm always happy to share Bucky!

HEH!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 07:27:25 PM
WELL, I SEE THERE ARE SOME "FEISTY" FOLKS HERE TONIGHT.  I HAVE BEEN WATCHING 20/20 AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE POLICE ARE INTO PEOPLE'S SEX LIVES AND THAT THIS COUNTRY IS THE ONLY ONE IN THE INDUSTRIALIZED WORLD WHERE ANYONE POLICES CONSENTING ADULTS.  THEY ARRESTED THE CHIPPENDALES IN LOBBECK TEXAS FOR NOTHING.  I THINK SOME FOLKS ARE HAVING SOME MAJOR PROBLEMS.

In case any police are wondering... I have no problem with the Chippendales!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 07:28:38 PM
Sunny ,do you listen to Wral Mix 101.5 ?  I just checked the songlist for today and On My Way Here was played twice, the last time was at 5:13pm...which is a great time slot.
Oh, Evening Drive Time, very good! :bouncy

Yep, I listen to RAL.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 18, 2008, 07:30:24 PM
:wave

Clay's horoscope for the week (I am going to take this over to the BLPT, too because Philly loves to read his horoscopes):

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In an ideal world you'd be jetting off to some exotic destination, but even if you're staying close to home, life won't be dull. You're at the center of an exciting controversy and you'll gain from it. And the meeting of the minds leads to a powerful physical attraction.

I think China counts as exotic.

I think you post the horoscope every week, right? This one is eerie!!  :dust


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 18, 2008, 07:33:06 PM
luluasst - It is usually Philly who posts the horoscopes - but if I find an interesting one, I always try to post it for her - this one is from O.K. magazine  :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 18, 2008, 07:34:23 PM


                     CHIPPENDALES I LOVE THEM DO YOU THINK CLAY WOULD JOIN THEM THEN WE WOULD HAVE A CHIPPENCLAY. :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 18, 2008, 07:36:35 PM
luluasst - It is usually Philly who posts the horoscopes - but if I find an interesting one, I always try to post it for her - this one is from O.K. magazine  :wink

Ah! Thanks for that tidbit....and for posting this one tonight.
Luluasst (I work for someone named Lulu, hence the weird name)
aka
Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 18, 2008, 08:02:02 PM
I'm a loving the CM tonight!   :blush  After having the opportunity to see Clay dance a number of times in Spamalot...I'm certainly enjoying the visual I've created via Sunny and the rest of you creative Claymaniacs ...yeah...Clay completing floor exercises in tights...including many a shimmy...one of my favorite Spamalot moves...I can sleep well tonight dwelling on these images  :thud ... the CM is in fine form...and I am indeed thankful!   :purpbana  :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 18, 2008, 08:06:11 PM
I'm a loving the CM tonight!   :blush  After having the opportunity to see Clay dance a number of times in Spamalot...I'm certainly enjoying the visual I've created via Sunny and the rest of you creative Claymaniacs ...yeah...Clay completing floor exercises in tights...including many a shimmy...one of my favorite Spamalot moves...I can sleep well tonight dwelling on these images  :thud ... the CM is in fine form...and I am indeed thankful!   :purpbana  :bigsmile

<in case he ever stops by>

Clay, I never said anything about you shimmying! :para

And I tried several times to get the tights off you!

Wait a minute, I don't think that came out right... :blush


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 18, 2008, 08:09:10 PM



                             NOBODY LIKED MY CHIPPENCLAY COMMENT OR DID YOU MISS IT, I THOUGHT IT WAS QUITE FUNNY MYSELF :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 18, 2008, 08:11:46 PM
I'm a loving the CM tonight!   :blush  After having the opportunity to see Clay dance a number of times in Spamalot...I'm certainly enjoying the visual I've created via Sunny and the rest of you creative Claymaniacs ...yeah...Clay completing floor exercises in tights...including many a shimmy...one of my favorite Spamalot moves...I can sleep well tonight dwelling on these images  :thud ... the CM is in fine form...and I am indeed thankful!   :purpbana  :bigsmile

<in case he ever stops by>

Clay, I never said anything about you shimmying! :para

And I tried several times to get the tights off you!

Wait a minute, I don't think that came out right... :blush

 :rofl

Sunny...I added the shimmy move  :giggle ...I keep that on repeat in my memory bank...I was fortunate enough to see Clay multiple times in a row...guess I picked that dance move to freeze frame...lucky me!  :goo


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 18, 2008, 08:18:31 PM

<in case he ever stops by>

Clay, I never said anything about you shimmying! :para

And I tried several times to get the tights off you!

Wait a minute, I don't think that came out right... :blush
[/quote]

 :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 18, 2008, 08:39:22 PM

  Sundancer,
                  I"m not that much of a optomist. Thinking of Clay as an acrobat in tights.
     .Whoo! Whoo!
                                                     betty

Hey, if you're gonna dream, dream big.

(Isn't that right, Marilyn? :slick )

Hey, BIG is always good- and Clay has big...............feet
                                                                                 hands
                                                                                heart
                                                                                whatever!! :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 18, 2008, 08:41:27 PM

                                 WELL MY IRS PROBLEMS  ARE TAKEN CARE IN MY FAVOR I MIGHT ADD. :lol BIG BURDEN OFF ME.

Congratulations Glory!!!! Good News
Quote
                              I WOULD LOVE TO SEE CLAY TUMBLE. OR ON THE BALANCE BEAM IN TIGHTS OF COURSE. :lmao
Well, now, men don't do the beam. But they do the floor exercise. Maybe you would enjoy seeing him on the floor.

aaaahhhhhhhhh- who wouldnt?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 18, 2008, 08:54:17 PM
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK LADIES....YOU ARE PUTTING A SMILE ON MY FACE  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 19, 2008, 05:56:10 AM
VERY QUICK HELLO.  OFF TO BARRY'S BF'S AT THE SHORE.  BACK LATER TODAY.

LIZ--WILL ANSWER YOUR PM LATER.\

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 19, 2008, 07:43:00 AM
Quote
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK LADIES....YOU ARE PUTTING A SMILE ON MY FACE 


 :yeahthat For sure, LINDA!  I so enjoyed just sitting back late yesterday and "watching the show"!.   You ladies are priceless!

GWENN, have a wonderful day at the shore.  :hugg We have rain today, but I think you probably will have the perfect beach weather up in the Northeast today.

Busy weekend ahead,  but I'll try to pop in once in a while.  It's so hard to stay away these days! 

P.S.  GLORY, so glad your tax woes are now behind you.  The IRS can make your life miserable, I know  :headache

 :ghug :sonic
Thea



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 19, 2008, 07:45:43 AM
 :wave

Good Morning - will be leaving in a little while to see Mama Mia with friends and to have lunch.  Usually, when I am going to be away from the computer for a long time, there is breaking Clay News - so have hope today!  :bouncy :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 19, 2008, 09:35:53 AM
Did any of y'all catch Jimmy Kimmel on the Insider the other night? Cute cap. :lol

JBT KIMMEL (http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6232/080717kimmelinjbthat1fo4.jpg)

JBT LOGO (http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3203/jbthatni5.jpg)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 19, 2008, 02:41:01 PM
SUNNY, right now I'm hearing crickets chirping here on the CM.   :dust  :hypno  Absolutely nothing new in our Clay world as far as I know.  Should I go find the latest scoop on Amy Winehouse and post the link here???   :lol  (ducking wormy tomatoes, rotten yellow squash and overripe zuchinnis!)  :para   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 19, 2008, 03:07:46 PM



                                  CERTAINLY IS QUIET ON HERE TODAY, NOTHING NEW I GUESS, ALL THE BOARDS ARE WAITING FOR CLAY TO APPEAR SOMEPLACE., SURE WOULD BE LOVERLY, BUT I 'M NOT HOLDING MY BREATH. :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 19, 2008, 03:36:12 PM
I am now willing to interpret quiet here as peaceful here and thank the heavens above for that, after the last 24 hours at the CH where it's been 'Sturm und Drang' over there  :drama  (4 or more members have just been given the boot) ...sheesh!  :doh


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 19, 2008, 03:47:21 PM
I am bringing my post over from the OCD:

Quote
RUN DO NOT WALK to see Mama Mia - it is the best movie I been to see in many years - everyone (me, too!) laughed out loud during the movie, and everyone in the theatre left laughing, talking about the movie, and singing.

Clay content: he would have been wonderful in the part of the groom in this movie - he could have used his British accent!!!!!

When will I see a movie, concert, etc, without thinking about Clay?

It is quiet here - another calm before the Clay storm, I am sure!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 19, 2008, 04:32:41 PM
I am now willing to interpret quiet here as peaceful here and thank the heavens above for that, after the last 24 hours at the CH where it's been 'Sturm und Drang' over there  :drama  (4 or more members have just been given the boot) ...sheesh!  :doh

Oh my goodness. It's just a fan board! How can people draw blood over it?

Anyway, we had much more fun here last night. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 19, 2008, 04:35:27 PM



                                         JOHANNA I READ ALL THAT STUFF HOLY COW THAT COMPARES TO OFC SOMETIMES. I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE SAID STUFF TO ANYONE LIKE I READ ON THE BOARDS.

                                  I PREFER BEING SMUTTY  :lol

                   CLAY BLESS HIS HEART HAS SOME HATEFUL FANS IF THEY WANT TO CALL THEMSELVES FANS.IMHO.

                    NOT SURE WHAT BRINGS OUT THESE THINGS,MAYBE THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO US,CD SALES  OR HIS CAREER IS NOT GOING THE WAY PEOPLE WANT IT TO., SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED PEOPLE NEED TO GET A GRIP, I PRAY CLAY IS SAFE AND ENJOYING HIS TIME OFF, NOT THAT I WOULD NOT LIKE TO HEAR FROM HIM.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 19, 2008, 04:38:31 PM


                         SUNNY YOU WANT A REPEAT OF LAST NIGHTT. :bigsmile

                                  WELL NOBODY EVER COMMENTED ON MY CHIPPENCLAY I WAS DISAPPONTED I LAUGHED ABOUT THAT ALL NIGHT. :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 19, 2008, 04:42:33 PM

                                             NOT SURE WHAT BRINGS OUT THESE THINGS,MAYBE THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO US,CD SALES  OR HIS CAREER IS NOT GOING THE WAY PEOPLE WANT IT TO., SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED PEOPLE NEED TO GET A GRIP
That's for sure.

"Lack of communication, CD sales, and career not going a certain way" are all Clay's problems to worry about--not his fans'. You'd think people would have enough going on in their own lives that they wouldn't have time to second-guess the actions of someone in a field they probably know nothing about. :rolleyes


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 19, 2008, 04:45:05 PM

                         SUNNY YOU WANT A REPEAT OF LAST NIGHTT. :bigsmile

What, it's not like I plan these things, ya know. I was in a giddy mood last night, and it sorta spilled over into my posts. :lol



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 19, 2008, 04:50:41 PM

                         SUNNY YOU WANT A REPEAT OF LAST NIGHTT. :bigsmile

What, it's not like I plan these things, ya know. I was in a giddy mood last night, and it sorta spilled over into my posts. :lol



Let's go for it...or as they say Ok gals...bring er on!   :blush  :naughty  :lol  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 19, 2008, 04:51:06 PM



                                  SUNNY I LOVE YOU GIDDY :lol I AM PRETTY MUCH GIDDY ALL THE TIME. I LOVE GOOD FUN AND SMUT. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 19, 2008, 04:52:07 PM

                         SUNNY YOU WANT A REPEAT OF LAST NIGHTT. :bigsmile

What, it's not like I plan these things, ya know. I was in a giddy mood last night, and it sorta spilled over into my posts. :lol



Just logged on - SUNNY! You Go Girl! Repeat! Repeat!  :bouncy
Luluasst


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 19, 2008, 04:53:07 PM


                            JOHANNA THAT SOUNDS LIKE CLAYS GET ER DONE  :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 19, 2008, 05:06:24 PM


                            JOHANNA THAT SOUNDS LIKE CLAYS GET ER DONE  :roflmao

Works for me, Glory!    :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 19, 2008, 05:18:41 PM
JUST BACK.  WE HAD A FABULOUS DAY.  LOTS OF FUN.  HAD TO LEAVE TO GET HOME TO LOUIE AND SAMMIE.  ER IS AT A POLICE CONCERT.

FRANKIE---YEP.  MAMA MIA IS A BLAST.  BUT I THINK CLAY IS TOO OLD TO BE THE GROOM.  NOW, I WOULDN'T MIND A MOVIE WHERE HE TOOK HIS SHIRT OFF.  :thud :thud :thud  SOMEDAY.  THAT IS MY FANTASY.

SO THE CH IS SELF DESTRUCTING.  GOTTA CHECK THAT OUT.  OVER WHAT?  CLAY HASN'T EVEN DONE ANYTHING TO TALK ABOUT.

HE IS JUST HOT.  AND IF HE IS IN HIS BACKYARD, I BET HE IS PLENTY HOT WITH THIS HEAT AND HUMIDITY.  BUT MAYBE THAT SHIRT IS OFF.  DISPLAYING THOSE INCREDIBLE SHOULDERS.   :wow :flame

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 19, 2008, 05:20:20 PM
Hi Girls..it seems mighty quiet here tonight...

What is your subject of SMUT tonight ,regarding Clay ?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 19, 2008, 05:27:21 PM

                         MIMI.NOT SURE THERE IS JUST ONE THING TO SMUT ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO CLAY. HE HAS SO MANY BITS AND PEICES. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 19, 2008, 05:29:13 PM
But Gwenn what about his delicate pale white skin?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 19, 2008, 05:38:31 PM
I have been over reading some of the CH debacle, it got so bad that the Admin. indefinitely suspended 4 people...Clay could sure help us all by just saying Hi ,or anything, to many people getting upset....Not me, I just keep telling myself that big things are in the works and" in the end everything will work out" At least thats what I'm hoping.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 19, 2008, 05:43:48 PM
I have been over reading some of the CH debacle, it got so bad that the Admin. indefinitely suspended 4 people...Clay could sure help us all by just saying Hi ,or anything, to many people getting upset....
Clay shouldn't have to "babysit" his fans for them to behave themselves. Those were all grown women. Whether or not they chose to be "mature" was up to them.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 19, 2008, 05:48:46 PM
But Gwenn what about his delicate pale white skin?


SPF 75 sunblock.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 19, 2008, 05:51:50 PM
OH, MIMI, HE CAN USE SUNSCREEN ON THAT SKIN.  AND SOME OF THAT  CINNIMAN (SP) FUR CAN HELP. COULD YOU JUST IMAGINE??????

I AM DYING OF CURIOSITY AND WILL NOT READ THE 8  PAGES SOVER AT THE CH.  WHO WAS THROWN OUT?

AND YOU ARE RIGHT, SUNNY.  WE ARE HIS FANS.  NOT HIS MOTHERS OR MANAGERS.  WE CAN SPECULATE ALL WE WANT.  BUT WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO EXPECT CLAY TO BASE HIS DECISIONS, EITHER PERSONAL OR PROFESSIONAL, ON WHAT WE THINK. 

I WOULD RATHER SMUT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 19, 2008, 05:54:25 PM
MICKI--WE POSTED AT THE SAME TIME.   :hugg

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 19, 2008, 05:57:45 PM
Somebody is going to have to rub that SPF 75 sunblock on Clay...How about me???


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 19, 2008, 06:00:07 PM
Just curious , is Brett still in the military, and if so where is he stationed now?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 19, 2008, 06:09:20 PM
I DON'T KNOW, MARLENE.  SOMEONE SAID HE DIDN'T RE UP BUT I DON'T KNOW. 

REMEMBER, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT NOTHING.  :bigsmile

BUT I WOULDN'T MIND RUBBING THAT SUNBLOCK ON SAID BACK. :slick

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 19, 2008, 06:16:38 PM
You absolutely have to watch this Olympic montag by suerue! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi6EXaGf-JM


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 19, 2008, 06:30:46 PM
Mickie I saw that earlier today...suerue did a really good job.

I just checked Wral and they played Clay again twice today...once at 5:56am ,and then again at 2:29pm...I'm glad they are playing him later in the day, when a bigger  listening audience can hear him.  He has dropped in the chart position to 23, but on the Mix Top 20 list he is # 10..I don't understand what all that means but I e-mailed the station manager to explain it to me ,and I will let you know when he responds


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 19, 2008, 06:31:42 PM
 mimi,
         Looks you will have to stand in line to rub suntan lotion on Clay"s assets.
     BTW what does CH stand for? I have no idea.
                                   
                                          Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 19, 2008, 06:32:40 PM
Gwenn you can have his back and I'll take the FRONT :wiggle


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 19, 2008, 06:33:35 PM
mimi,
         Looks you will have to stand in line to rub suntan lotion on Clay"s assets.
     BTW what does CH stand for? I have no idea.
                                   
                                          Betty

The Clack House.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 19, 2008, 06:42:59 PM
  Sundancer,
                    Thank you. Don"t think I want to read any more trash , but I was curious.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 19, 2008, 07:37:18 PM
I AM DYING OF CURIOSITY AND WILL NOT READ THE 8  PAGES SOVER AT THE CH.  WHO WAS THROWN OUT?
Admin didn't name names. (Yeah, I went over to see what the fuss was all about. :blush )

Lordy, it was nasty. People were sniping at each other left and right. Too much snark--and for me, that's sayin' something! :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 19, 2008, 08:16:59 PM
WELL, I JUST READ THE MOST POMPOUS PIECE OF GARBAGE EVER.  AT THE CH.  WILL NOT MENTION THE POSTER.  BOY, ARE THEY FULL OF THEMSELVES OVER THERE.  I MAY NOT CARE FOR JAYMES AS A PROFESSIONAL.  I MAY NOT THINK EVERYTHING CLAY HAS DECIDED TO DO WITH HIS LIFE IS TO MY LIKING, BUT I WOULD NEVER,EVER PROFESS TO KNOWING MORE ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE'S LIFE THAN THAT PERSON DOES.  NOR WOULD I THINK I KNOW MORE ABOUT A BUSINESS I AM NOT IN THAN A PERSON WHO IS.  ALSO, IF CLAY WANTS TO SING THE SONGS CHOSEN FOR On My Way Here, THEN GOOD FOR HIM.  I LOVE THE CD.  IT MAY NOT SELL A TON BUT I THINK IT IS BEAUTIFUL AND I PLAY IT OFTEN.  WOW.  IT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHY SOME FOLKS SAY THEY ARE FANS WHEN THEY THINK EVERY SINGLE THING CLAY DOES IS BAD OR WRONG.

BACK TO SMUT.  SINCE EVERYONE HAS LEFT, I GET TO GREASE THE MAN UP FROM HEAD TO TOE AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.  SO THERE.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 19, 2008, 08:26:09 PM
Alrighty then, Gwenn...  :hugg ...and I volunteer to clean him off...there!  I said it...and I ain't describing how I'll accomplish that task!   :blush :naughty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 19, 2008, 09:39:38 PM
BACK TO SMUT.  SINCE EVERYONE HAS LEFT, I GET TO GREASE THE MAN UP FROM HEAD TO TOE AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.  SO THERE.

    :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 19, 2008, 09:41:20 PM
Alrighty then, Gwenn...  :hugg ...and I volunteer to clean him off...there! 

Where?? :eek


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 19, 2008, 10:14:34 PM
Too many places to name...I'm ready and willing!  :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 20, 2008, 12:54:30 AM
 :para I see what you all do while I'm working.  :roflmao

I miss being here as much. Although, at the second job I am broadening their Clay knowledge. They know not to tease me about it too.  :smile

 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 20, 2008, 12:56:48 AM
Too many places to name...I'm ready and willing!  :bigsmile

Get in line, missy! The line starts behind me.  :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 20, 2008, 03:40:10 AM
 :wave

Good Morning!

Gwenn - you may be right about Clay being too old for the part of the Groom in Mama Mia - but he can look pretty young at times. This is a small part, but I would love to see him start out in a hit movie with lots of major stars. Pepe pointed out to me that the critics do not like Mama Mia - I told her that I knew that before I went to see the movie - our theatre's web site has critics' reviews of all the movies they show - but I am so happy I ignored the critics and went (sort of like ignoring the critics and listening to Clay music!!!!!!)  :wink I just enjoyed a feel good, happy movie for once - and I would love to see Clay in this sort of movie.

I found Claymaniacs when I finally got disgusted because of fighting on another site - and I have never felt the need to post anywhere but Claymaniacs since. I think I have 70 posts or so on the OFC - in three years of membership (most of those posts have had to do with meeting other fans at concerts).  I  started visiting other sites since I started helping out with the News - and that has only confirmed what I decided long ago - Claymaniacs is one of the best Clay sites - unlimited support for Our Honey, even when we don't always understand his choices.

Have a great Sunday, everybody - we are going to try to rest a little, and get ready for another busy week ahead.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 05:53:54 AM






                                              I TOLD YA'LL IT WAS BAD. :para I AM GLAD I RELLY LOVE HIM. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 06:16:09 AM
MORNING--

WE WERE GONNA GO BACK TO MY NIECE'S TODAY, BUT TRAFFIC WILL BE JUST THE WORST.  GONNA STICK CLOSE TO HOME AND SPEND SOME TIME WITH ER INSTEAD.  MAN IS IT HOT.

MICKI--THANKS FOR THE PM.

FRANKIE--I ALWAYS IGNORE THE CRITICS EVER SINCE I SAW LOST IN TRANSLATION.  THEY LOVED, LOVED, LOVED IT.  WE WENT WITH 2 OTHER COUPLES AND ALL 6 OF US FELL ASLEEP.  SO, IF A CRITIC PANS SOMETHING AS CHEESY OR SOMETHING, THEN I KNOW I WILL LOVE IT.  I GUESS I AM INTELLECTUALLY CHALLENGED OR SOMETHING.

AND AGREE ABOUT CLAYMANIACS.  THIS IS A VERY SMALL BOARD IF YOU ONLY COUNT THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY DO POST ON A REGULAR BASIS.  BUT THAT WORKS FOR ME.  THANKS TO PAMELA AND THE OTHER MODS, THINGS REMAIN ON AN EVEN KEEL HERE.  HOPEFULLY, WE WON'T ANNOY EACH OTHER TOO MUCH WITH DIFFERING OPINIONS.  WE ALL COME FROM SUCH DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS. 

ANYWAY, THE FANDOM IS IN A BIT OF A TURMOIL RIGHT NOW.  LIKE A COUNTRY WITHOUT ITS LEADER.  AS A GROUP, WE HAVE EXPECTATIONS AND RIGHT NOW, THEY AREN'T BEING FULFILLED. 

IT COMES DOWN TO THIS.  SPAMALOT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS FOR CLAY.  WE ALL WERE INCREDIBLY PROUD OF HIM.  WE ALL HAD THE FEELING THAT HE WOULD FINALLY GET THE RESPECT HE WAS DUE.  THE CD DROPS.  REVIEWS WERE WAY BETTER THAN ATDW.  BUT THE SALES WERE DISAPPOINTING TO SAY THE LEAST.  IT WAS LIKE FALLING FROM A 50 STORY BUILDING.  WE WERE SO UPSET FOR HIM.   THE THE MESS AT THE OFC OVER JAYMES'S POST AND HIS "RANT WITH LOVE."  OK. I, FOR ONE, WAS VERY, VERY GLAD TO READ THAT.  I THINK HE TOLD US STUFF WE NEEDED TO KNOW AND IT SATISFIED ME AND MOST FANS.  INFORMATION.  HE KNOWS WE WANT THE BEST FOR HIM.  IF WE WERE DISAPPOINTED, IMAGINE HOW THEY FELT.  AND ONLY A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER-----TMZ SPEWS ITS VERSION OF A VERY PRIVATE PART OF THEIR LIVES AND THE FANDOM IMPLODES.  BIG TIME.  YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A HUGE SUGAR HIGH THAT FELL?  FROM CLOSING NIGHT OF SPAMALOT, TO DISAPOINTING SALES TO TMZ ALL IN LESS THAN 3 WEEKS.  YEAH.  EMOTIONS RAN AND CONTINUE TO RUN VERY HIGH.

WE WILL ALL SETTLE AND GO ON.  CLAY WILL GET OVER HIS DISAPPOINTMENTS AND EMERGE.  HE HAS TO.  THERE WILL BE HUGE SUCCESSES AND BIG DISAPPOINTMENTS.  THAT IS THE EBB AND FLOW OF LIFE.

I WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING.  I ADMIT THAT.  I WON'T.  WE WON'T.    OH WELL.  CLAY IS STILL AMAZING.  STILL HOT.  STILL TALENTED.  STILL FUNNY.  STILL ANNOYING.  STILL A MAN.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 20, 2008, 06:48:05 AM
MORNING--

I WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING.  I ADMIT THAT.  I WON'T.  WE WON'T.    OH WELL.  CLAY IS STILL AMAZING.  STILL HOT.  STILL TALENTED.  STILL FUNNY.  STILL ANNOYING.  STILL A MAN.

GWENN

AAH, but WHAT  a man!! Those luscious lips, those mesmerizing eyes, that dusting of freckles, the thick ever changing hair, that nuzzleable neck (new word??), those wide shoulders, those huge hands, the cinammon teaser at the neck, the.................hold, please, I need water..............



the comings and goings watching that cute little butt and ...stuff, those long lean legs ending at those memorable feet. This man is breakfast, lunch and dinner- a veritable smorgasbord feast for the...eyes or whatever. And parts that you cannot see*- the huge heart that encompasses so many things, that immeasurable voice that thrills and tantalizes, or makes you weep,  the snarky sense of humor that sometimes has you rolling off your chair, the compassion for the handicapped and children, and other people in distress. All of this makes up a man that I want to be "around" for a long time to come.

Of course he may not ever let me "around" him, especially after reading that- but he ain't gonna get rid of me too easily!!! :bigsmile


*and when I wrote this I was NOT thinging about THOSE parts!! But now........................ :thud


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 07:23:04 AM
Off-topic for a moment, but I just gotta ask:

Am I the only one who doesn't give a flip about Angelina and her twins? :hypno


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 07:23:42 AM



                           AND TO THINK A FEW MONTHS AGO I WAS TRYING TO GET A MEMBERSHIP TO CH......GLAD I DIDN'T



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 20, 2008, 07:24:14 AM
Off-topic for a moment, but I just gotta ask:

Am I the only one who doesn't give a flip about Angelina and her twins? :hypno

Nope.

Its a shame you have to "sell" your kids to get money for charity donations. Its a shame that 20million dollars can be obtained by exclusive pics for a tabloid magazine, when UNICEF and other charities have to push hard to get donations, and half the time those requests are ignored by media.

I DO know that Brad & Angelina do things for charities and donate themselves, but this part of it disgusts me.
So-thats how I feel


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Petjen on July 20, 2008, 07:27:10 AM
Off-topic for a moment, but I just gotta ask:

Am I the only one who doesn't give a flip about Angelina and her twins? :hypno

You're so not alone.  I post on another board (not Clay related) and that's all they were talking about for a couple of days.  :rolleyes


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 07:28:22 AM

                             ANYBODY ESLE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING INTO THE CV I AM GETTING THE DREADED WHIPTE PAGE.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 07:29:43 AM

                             ANYBODY ESLE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING INTO THE CV I AM GETTING THE DREADED WHIPTE PAGE.

Maybe everyone got kicked out. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 07:32:44 AM



                                           NOPE I DON'T THINK SO :roflmao IT WAS FINE THIS AM JUST WENT WONKY SUNNY.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 07:40:37 AM
SUNNY---I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THEM OR ANY CELEBRITY OTHER THAN CLAY.  I HAD THIS CONVERSATION YESTERDAY WITH BARRY'S BEST FRIEND WHO JUST LOVES THIS GOSSIP S**T.  A MAN NO LESS.  SO MUCH FOR STEREOTYPES.  ANYWAY, HE IS TELLING ME ALL THIS STUPID UNIMPORTANT STUFF ABOUT WHO IS BISEXUAL.  WHO IS GAY AND MARRIED, ETC.  I LOOKED AT HIM AND SAID----THERE IS A WAR GOING ON.  THE ECONOMY IS IN THE TOILET.  PEOPLE ARE STARVING IN SOMALIA, AND YOU CARE WHAT IS GOING ON IN SOMEONE'S BEDROOM??????? AND HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW ANYWAY????? (I FIGHT WITH THIS MAN MORE THAN BARRY AND HAVE FOR OVER 30 YEARS.)   :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang  WELL, I RANTED FOR A FEW MINUTES.  HE JUST LOOKED AT ME.  HE IS NOT A MORON.  HE HAS SUPPORTED HIS FAMILY VERY NICELY FOR 38 YEARS.  NOT A BAD MAN.  BUT IS INTERESTED IN ALL THIS CRAP.  (HE KNOWS BETTER THAN TO START WITH ME ABOUT CLAY.)  SO, I AM STARTING TO THINK THAT MAYBE ITS ME.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 20, 2008, 07:52:57 AM
   
     Gwenn,
                  No! it"s not you, it"s them.
   There are far more important things to think and worry about
      in this world and country. Peoples private lives should be just that..........PRIVATE!!!
                                         
                                       Betty


   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on July 20, 2008, 08:36:55 AM
I have a question for everybody...

I was watching THE VIEW on Friday with Meryl Streep.  She has 4 children.  I never knew that she had that many children.  She said that it is up the the parents as to whether or not the children are photographed or not.  And once that parent says that the children can be photographed, that they can be photographed for life.  There has been so much conversation about Jaymes and her baby and whether or not the baby is Clay's.  Do you think that she will or will not choose to have her baby photographed.  Clay's fans will definately want to see his baby, but she may choose not to because she is not in the public eye.      


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 09:01:42 AM
BETH--MY OPINION IS THAT AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE BABY, WE WILL NEVER SEE THIS CHILD.  EVER.  I WISH I COULD SAY DIFFERENTLY, BUT I DON'T THINK SO.  ESPECIALLY SINCE SOME FANS HAVE BEEN SOOOOO MEAN ONLINE TO JAYMES.

MAYBE SHE IS TALKING ABOUT PROFESSIONAL PHOTOS.  NOT FAMILY OR INFORMAL.  KIND OF LIKE CHAMBERLAIN AND CLAY FROM QUIANA'S MY SPACE.  MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT SOMEDAY.  BUT OTHERWISE, I SINCERELY DOUBT IT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 20, 2008, 09:11:18 AM
  Gwenn,
                   I think you are right ,we were on such a high after Spamalot ,the negatives
             hit us like a ton of bricks. But "We"re not dead yet".
                                       
                                             Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 20, 2008, 09:16:14 AM
Just weighing in here briefly with my thoughts about photos of celebrities children...

o  Today, these children are endangered by the paparazzis' sp? behavior...there have been a number of near collisions with them...even when stars are holding their babies...

o  My understanding of Brad and Angie's position...they'll put my kids at risk trying to take photos...we'll take control of it, by removing the exclusive...and at least some charity will be the benefactor...the pics would be taken by some means...and hopefully if they are taken under our guidelines, our children/babies will be safe

o  I can see Clay considering both options...what Brad and Angie have done and what Meryl so wisely stated she felt ...in terms of once that zone of privacy for one's children is breeched... the thing is Meryl hasn't been the lightening rod for tabloid interest like Clay...and I do think the paps will get VERY aggressive if they feel they can obtain the 'first' photo of his child

o  I wish there were a law banning the paps from entering in a certain space around children...look what Jackie Kennedy had to do, to protect hers...ridiculous!!!

That being said,  I'd sure love to see a picture of them gazing down at their newborn...if they could share it with us on their terms.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 09:30:02 AM


                                 I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS BABY,IIT,AND SHARE IN CLAY'S HAPPINESS BUT AT THIS POINT WE ARE NOT REALLY SURE IT IS CLAYS BABY.SO I AM STILL WAITING TO SEE.

                                I AM NOT A BIT SUPRISED AT THE REACTION HE GOT OVER THIS NEWS, THAT PEDISTIAL HE HAS BEEN ON FOR 5 YEARS  GOT A BIT SHAKEY FOR SOME, I NEVER HAVE THOUGHT HE WAS A ANGEL.HE IS JUST A MAN WITH FAULTS LIKE THE REST OF US HAVE,HE IS A GOOD MAN.AND A FANTASTIC SINGER, THATS ALL I GOT.

                             FIXIN TO HAVE A STORM THUNDER ALL OVER THE PLACE .


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 09:42:21 AM
I have a question for everybody...

I was watching THE VIEW on Friday with Meryl Streep.  She has 4 children.  I never knew that she had that many children.  She said that it is up the the parents as to whether or not the children are photographed or not.  And once that parent says that the children can be photographed, that they can be photographed for life.  There has been so much conversation about Jaymes and her baby and whether or not the baby is Clay's.  Do you think that she will or will not choose to have her baby photographed.  Clay's fans will definately want to see his baby, but she may choose not to because she is not in the public eye.      

Well, if it's Clay's baby, too, it's a decision they'll make together.

As for the fans wanting to see the baby, that's of no relevance when it comes to safety. If they feel they can take better care of their child by keeping him or her away from photogs, then that's the answer. I don't need to see baby pictures. But I think we all need children to feel safe and secure.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 10:37:43 AM
AGREED, SUNNY.  CURIOSITY ASIDE, THE BABY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.  PARENTS HAVE TO PUT THEIR CHILD FIRST.  THEY WILL.

GWENN

(BUT I AM STILL CURIOUS.   :naughty  I HOPE IT LOOKS LIKE CLAY.  HE WAS AN ADORABLE BABY.)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 10:49:54 AM
(BUT I AM STILL CURIOUS.   :naughty  I HOPE IT LOOKS LIKE CLAY.  HE WAS AN ADORABLE BABY.)
Still is. :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 10:56:17 AM
(BUT I AM STILL CURIOUS.   :naughty  I HOPE IT LOOKS LIKE CLAY.  HE WAS AN ADORABLE BABY.)
Still is. :slick

YEAH, THAT.

THIS IS CUTE AND FUNNY.  ANOTHER FROM MARIEDRUMMAND.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=PXZmhyVxNpY

GWENN



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 20, 2008, 12:27:26 PM
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My understanding of Brad and Angie's position...they'll put my kids at risk trying to take photos...we'll take control of it, by removing the exclusive...and at least some charity will be the benefactor...the pics would be taken by some means...and hopefully if they are taken under our guidelines, our children/babies will be safe

I HAVE READ OF OTHER CELEBS DOING THIS SAME THING.....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 20, 2008, 12:59:21 PM
I heard that Nicole & Keith were considering on releasing a picture (of their choosing, of Sunday)but no money would be involved..They were doing it on their own.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 01:04:02 PM


                              WE HAVE A SIGHTING AT SMITHFIELD BBQ JUST SITTING IN THE SHADE WELL AT LEAST WE KNOW HE IS HOME. :purpbana


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 01:05:41 PM


                              WE HAVE A SIGHTING AT SMITHFIELD BBQ JUST SITTING IN THE SHADE WELL AT LEAST WE KNOW HE IS HOME. :purpbana

I hope people left him alone.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 01:37:50 PM
HERE IS WHAT GLORY IS RREFERRING TO:

Quote
http://thewyatttimes.blogspot.com/2008/07/alright.html

QUOTE
After church, we went to Smithfields BBQ, and guess who was there? Clay Aiken. He was sitting outside in the shade with a couple people, not drawing any attention to himself. It was kind of fun to see someone famous, even if it was just an American Idol guy.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 01:38:29 PM


                            YES SUNNY HE WAS LEFT ALONE APPARENTLY HE WAS WITH SOME FRIENDS. HE SURE LOVES HIM SOME NC BBQ DOESN'T HE . :lol

                           NEXT TIME I COME TO NC I WANT SOME BBQ, OK SUNNY. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 20, 2008, 01:46:09 PM
Glory I think it would be fun for us all to have Carolina BBQ and sweet ice tea when you gals come to Raleigh


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 01:46:59 PM


                            YES SUNNY HE WAS LEFT ALONE APPARENTLY HE WAS WITH SOME FRIENDS. HE SURE LOVES HIM SOME NC BBQ DOESN'T HE . :lol

                           NEXT TIME I COME TO NC I WANT SOME BBQ, OK SUNNY. :hugg

Don't look at me; it ain't my thing. :shrug

Tell Clay! :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 01:47:42 PM
Glory I think it would be fun for us all to have Carolina BBQ and sweet ice tea when you gals come to Raleigh

Oops, sorry, y'all. My New York is showin'. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 20, 2008, 01:49:23 PM
Was there by chance a pregnant friend with Clay & his friends, Just asking!

I'm that much like Gwenn ...I want all the details...


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 01:52:00 PM
MARLENE-- :hugg  I DOUBT SHE IS ALLOWED TO FLY RIGHT ABOUT NOW.  ISN'T THIS BABY DUE IN LIKE A MONTH?  AND SHE IS HIGH RISK.

I AN WAY MORE SHALLOW.  I WANT TO KNOW THINGS LIKE--DID HE HAVE GLASSES ON?  HOW WAS HIS HAIR?  WHAT WAS HE WEARING?  HAS HE GAINED ANY WEIGHT BACK?  YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANT THINGS.   :bigsmile

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 01:55:08 PM
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YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANT THINGS.  :bigsmile

   :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 01:56:33 PM
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YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANT THINGS.  :bigsmile

   :lol

WELL, I HAVE MY PRIORITIES IN ORDER.  :wink

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 20, 2008, 01:56:41 PM
MARLENE-- :hugg  I DOUBT SHE IS ALLOWED TO FLY RIGHT ABOUT NOW.  ISN'T THIS BABY DUE IN LIKE A MONTH?  AND SHE IS HIGH RISK.

I AN WAY MORE SHALLOW.  I WANT TO KNOW THINGS LIKE--DID HE HAVE GLASSES ON?  HOW WAS HIS HAIR?  WHAT WAS HE WEARING?  HAS HE GAINED ANY WEIGHT BACK?  YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANT THINGS.   :bigsmile

GWENN

 :wave  Hi everyone......

 :lol I'm with you Gwenn! Shallow to the end!

 :para Seriously, I was a high risk mom (many moons ago - the baby is all grown up now) and had two miscarriages before my daughter was born, so flying on a plane that close to giving birth is a no no.

Shelley (aka Luluasst)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 20, 2008, 01:58:51 PM
M

AND AGREE ABOUT CLAYMANIACS.  THIS IS A VERY SMALL BOARD IF YOU ONLY COUNT THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY DO POST ON A REGULAR BASIS.  BUT THAT WORKS FOR ME.  THANKS TO PAMELA AND THE OTHER MODS, THINGS REMAIN ON AN EVEN KEEL HERE.  HOPEFULLY, WE WON'T ANNOY EACH OTHER TOO MUCH WITH DIFFERING OPINIONS.  WE ALL COME FROM SUCH DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS. 

GWENN

 :clap Here! Here! I feel very welcome here. The OFC is just plain, weird.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 02:00:53 PM


                             GWENN OBVIOUSLY THIS PERSON WAS NOT A FAN SHE DID NOT NOTE THE IMPORTANT STUFF. :bigsmile

                                 SUNNY DON'T THEY HAVE BBQ IN NEW YORK :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 02:01:26 PM
SEE, SHALLOW IS FUN.  THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN.  CLAY DOESN'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT MY PRIVATE LIFE, THANK GOD.  SO I AM TRYING VERY HARD NOT TO CARE ABOUT HIS. 

BUT I STILL WOULD LOVE TO SEE A PIC OF THE BABY.   :blush

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 02:03:30 PM


                             GWENN OBVIOUSLY THIS PERSON WAS NOT A FAN SHE DID NOT NOTE THE IMPORTANT STUFF. :bigsmile

                                 SUNNY DON'T THEY HAVE BBQ IN NEW YORK :para

WELL, WHAT IS WRONG WITH HER?   :bang :bang :bang

GLORY--- MY IS FAMOUS FOR BAGELS AND CORNED BEEF.  NOT BBQ.  I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AUTHENTIC BBQ.  MAYBE IN OCTOBER IF I AM LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET GALA TIX.  LORD, I AM PRAYING AS WE SPEAK.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 20, 2008, 02:05:43 PM
SEE, SHALLOW IS FUN.  THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN.  CLAY DOESN'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT MY PRIVATE LIFE, THANK GOD.  SO I AM TRYING VERY HARD NOT TO CARE ABOUT HIS. 

BUT I STILL WOULD LOVE TO SEE A PIC OF THE BABY.   :blush

GWENN

Absolutely. He and Jaymes can release one photo to the public. Many celebrities do that to stop the paparazzi from going nuts. I agree we won't see anything else since he is already a very private person but he loves kids too much to not show the world his own child IMO!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 02:09:25 PM


                                  GWENN HOPE YOU GET TO GO HOPEFULLY BY OCT I WILL BE MOVED TO KY AND SETTLED IN.

                                I WANT TO SEE A PICTURE OF THE BABY TO I HAVE 3 REDHEADED KIDS NOT CARROT RED AUBURN REALLY PRETTY.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 20, 2008, 02:11:56 PM
I HAVE 3 REDHEADED KIDS NOT CARROT RED AUBURN REALLY PRETTY.

GLORY: Cool! I have red hair - it was that carrot top when I was little but I think it skips a generation cuzz my daughter's hair is really not red or auburn (more a light brown) but in the sun it's totally auburn. Weird.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 02:14:08 PM
GLORY--- MY IS FAMOUS FOR BAGELS AND CORNED BEEF.  NOT BBQ.  I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AUTHENTIC BBQ. 
Be careful what you wish for. (Sorry, Clay!) :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 02:15:13 PM
SHELLEY--I HOPE THEY DO RELEASE ONE.  I JUST AM CURIOUS.  I CANNOT HELP IT.  BUT THIS IS NOT A BAD THING.  IT IS A BABY.  I LOVE BABIES.  AND SINCE ER IS IN NO RUSH TO GIVE ME ONE OF HER OWN, THEN I HAVE TO BE SATISFIED WITH CLAY'S.  OMG, DID I SAY THAT?????????

GLORY--YOU DIDN'T TELL US YOU WERE MOVING!!!!!!  TELL, DETAILS FROM YOU.  VERY EXCITING.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 02:16:58 PM
GLORY--- MY IS FAMOUS FOR BAGELS AND CORNED BEEF.  NOT BBQ.  I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AUTHENTIC BBQ.
Be careful what you wish for. (Sorry, Clay!) :lol

HUH???? I GATHER YOU ARE NOT FOND OF BBQ, SUNNY.  THE ONLY BBQ I HAD WAS AT CARROWINDS IN CHARLOTTE BACK IN THE NC THREE-FER.  IT WAS DRY.  I DIDN'T LIKE IT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 20, 2008, 02:19:37 PM
SHELLEY--I HOPE THEY DO RELEASE ONE.  I JUST AM CURIOUS.  I CANNOT HELP IT.  BUT THIS IS NOT A BAD THING.  IT IS A BABY.  I LOVE BABIES.  AND SINCE ER IS IN NO RUSH TO GIVE ME ONE OF HER OWN, THEN I HAVE TO BE SATISFIED WITH CLAY'S.  OMG, DID I SAY THAT?????????


GWENN


Of course you said that!!! This is YOU speaking!  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 02:22:51 PM
HUH???? I GATHER YOU ARE NOT FOND OF BBQ, SUNNY.  THE ONLY BBQ I HAD WAS AT CARROWINDS IN CHARLOTTE BACK IN THE NC THREE-FER.  IT WAS DRY.  I DIDN'T LIKE IT.

GWENN
I guess it's not so bad. I just had some not too long ago. It's just not my first choice.

Of course, any kind of pork is better when you don't have to pull it off the pig to eat it.

We'll have to get you to a good ol' Carolina pig-pickin' while you're in town! :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 02:23:00 PM
SHELLEY--I HOPE THEY DO RELEASE ONE.  I JUST AM CURIOUS.  I CANNOT HELP IT.  BUT THIS IS NOT A BAD THING.  IT IS A BABY.  I LOVE BABIES.  AND SINCE ER IS IN NO RUSH TO GIVE ME ONE OF HER OWN, THEN I HAVE TO BE SATISFIED WITH CLAY'S.  OMG, DID I SAY THAT?????????


GWENN


Of course you said that!!! This is YOU speaking!  :lol

OH DEAR.  YOU HAVEN'T KNOWN ME THAT LONG.  AM I THAT OBVIOUS? :bduh :roflmao :wink

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 02:24:23 PM
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We'll have to get you to a good ol' Carolina pig-pickin' while you're in town! Laughing

YOU HAVE A DATE.  JUST LET ME GET THOSE TIX.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 20, 2008, 02:24:50 PM


OH DEAR.  YOU HAVEN'T KNOWN ME THAT LONG.  AM I THAT OBVIOUS? :bduh :roflmao :wink

GWENN

Um....kinda.  :angel I meant it in the nicest way. (taking foot out of my mouth right now).


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 02:25:02 PM
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We'll have to get you to a good ol' Carolina pig-pickin' while you're in town! Laughing

YOU HAVE A DATE.  JUST LET ME GET THOSE TIX.

GWENN
When are they going on sale?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 20, 2008, 02:25:41 PM
Glory I think it would be fun for us all to have Carolina BBQ and sweet ice tea when you gals come to Raleigh

Sounds good if the tea is unsweetened. :wink



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 20, 2008, 02:27:28 PM
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We'll have to get you to a good ol' Carolina pig-pickin' while you're in town! Laughing

YOU HAVE A DATE.  JUST LET ME GET THOSE TIX.

GWENN
When are they going on sale?

July 28


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 02:30:36 PM
Glory I think it would be fun for us all to have Carolina BBQ and sweet ice tea when you gals come to Raleigh

Sounds good if the tea is unsweetened. :wink


Gotta be sweet 'round these parts.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Moonshot on July 20, 2008, 02:36:20 PM
Glory I think it would be fun for us all to have Carolina BBQ and sweet ice tea when you gals come to Raleigh

Sounds good if the tea is unsweetened. :wink

I don't think that's an option 'round here.  The wait staff won't know what you're talking about.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 02:41:33 PM

               MY SON ABSOLUTELY LOVES KC BBQ. SAYS ITS THE BEST IN THE WORLD, I BEG TO DIFFER WITH HIM. :lol

               I AM THINKING OF MOVING TO KY, GWENN WHEN MY KIDS DECIDE WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE LIVING,MY SIL IS A SPANISH TEACHER THEY LIVE IN KY,NOW BUT HE HAS APPLIED FOR ANOTHER AREA OF KY SHOULD KNOW SHORTLY. I AM THINKING MAYBE BOWLING GREEN.OR GLASCOW. THEY ARE VERY NICE TOWNS,BOWLING GREEN IS A COLLEGE TOWN LOTS OF MEN. :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 02:43:21 PM
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BOWLING GREEN IS A COLLEGE TOWN LOTS OF MEN.  :roflmao

Glory, you kill me! :lol :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 20, 2008, 02:43:59 PM
I just checked the yellow pages for Smithfield BBQ (there are non close to the Marriott downtown)but they have them in Morrisville, Garner,Clayton,Wake Forest & Knightdale & of couse Smithfield....Sunny & Michelle do you know of any in Raleigh?

I wonder which one Clay was at?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 02:46:34 PM


OH DEAR.  YOU HAVEN'T KNOWN ME THAT LONG.  AM I THAT OBVIOUS? :bduh :roflmao :wink

GWENN

Um....kinda.  :angel I meant it in the nicest way. (taking foot out of my mouth right now).

SHELLEY--ONE THING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT ME.  I NEVER TAKE OFFENSE.  YOU DIDN'T PUT THAT FOOT ANYWHERE NEAR YOUR MOUTH.   :hugg

BTW--THAT SWEET TEA IS VERY SWEET.  BUT GOOD.

GLORY--I VOTE FOR THE MEN.   :bigsmile

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 02:46:50 PM
I just checked the yellow pages for Smithfield BBQ (there are non close to the Marriott downtown)but they have them in Morrisville, Garner,Clayton,Wake Forest & Knightdale & of couse Smithfield....Sunny & Michelle do you know of any in Raleigh?
I don't think there are any in Raleigh. I looked for one a while back when some friends wanted to go there; couldn't find any. :shrug


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I wonder which one Clay was at?
No idea.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 02:47:45 PM


                               SUNNY I LIKE MEN SLIM PICKINS IN BEDFORD ,IN I NEED TO BROADEN MY FIELD. SOUTHERN GENTS ARE GREAT , :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 02:49:32 PM
GLORY--I AM WITH SUNNY.  YOU KILL ME.   :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 02:50:47 PM


                                        MAYBE CLAY IS STILL IN NY PULLING HIS OWN PIG.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 02:51:37 PM


                               SUNNY I LIKE MEN SLIM PICKINS IN BEDFORD ,IN I NEED TO BROADEN MY FIELD. SOUTHERN GENTS ARE GREAT , :lol

Mm, some of 'em. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 20, 2008, 02:53:03 PM
Glory!!! Pulling his What??


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 20, 2008, 02:57:03 PM
SHELLEY--ONE THING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT ME.  I NEVER TAKE OFFENSE.  YOU DIDN'T PUT THAT FOOT ANYWHERE NEAR YOUR MOUTH.   :hugg

GWENN

 :blush  Good cuz I never take offense either - plus I just discovered you and I are both Leos (my birthday is the 3rd and yours I think is the 6th).   :wink   SHELLEY


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 02:58:07 PM
Glory!!! Pulling his What??


:wow :jaw :laugh :eek

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 02:59:11 PM
SHELLEY--ONE THING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT ME.  I NEVER TAKE OFFENSE.  YOU DIDN'T PUT THAT FOOT ANYWHERE NEAR YOUR MOUTH.   :hugg


GWENN

 :blush  Good cuz I never take offense either - plus I just discovered you and I are both Leos (my birthday is the 3rd and yours I think is the 6th).   :wink   SHELLEY

TRUE.  VERY CLOSE.  INTERESTING.  I KNEW I LIKED YOU.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 20, 2008, 03:00:47 PM
TRUE.  VERY CLOSE.  INTERESTING.  I KNEW I LIKED YOU.

GWENN

 :hugg  SHELLEY


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 20, 2008, 03:03:47 PM
TRUE.  VERY CLOSE.  INTERESTING.  I KNEW I LIKED YOU.

GWENN

 :hugg  SHELLEY
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Hate to leave the love fest but got things to do - the daughter has to sign up for college classes tomorrow so we are going over the class schedule. Might log on later tonight.  :bubble


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 03:04:48 PM


                             PULLING HIS OWN PIG AS IN BBQ. :roflmao

     SHELLEY GWENN WEARS HER HEART ON HER SLEEVE, SHE LOVES CLAY AS MUCH AS ME, AWEEEEEE.


                       I HEAR SMUT  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 03:05:04 PM
YEAH.  BARRY AND I ARE OFF TO DINNER. 

GLORY--YEAH, I DO LOVE CLAY AND WEAR MY HEART ON MY SLEEVE.  YOU HAVE MY NUMBER ALSO.   :hugg

LATER LADIES.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 03:15:32 PM



                                  GWENN I LOVE YOUR NUMBER I GUESS WE ARE THE SAME IN REGARDS TO CLAY :hugg

                               THEY ARE STILL GOING AT IT ON THE CH. NOT QUITE AS BAD, OH LORD.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 20, 2008, 03:22:17 PM
Glory IMO some of those gals at the CH are suffering from PMS or some disorder...they have been at it now for almost 3 days. Clay brings out the best and worst in some of us,it appears.  I'm just trying to take it all in stride.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 03:30:24 PM
WHOEVER SAID WOMEN TAKE A LONG TIME GETTING DRESSED NEVER MET MY HUSBAND.   :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang 

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 03:43:30 PM


             MIMI, TO MUCH ANGST FOR ME THEY ARE JUST RAISING THERE BLOOD PRESSURE. IF IT WOULD CHANGE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT,BUT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE CLAY, RCA, JAYMES, CD SALES, MAYBE THEY JUST NEED TO UNLOAD AND THEY ARE DOING THAT,


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 20, 2008, 03:55:17 PM
Glory..I think we all have to vent & rant a little,at least everyone here seems to understand it ...We're all pretty much in the same boat(so to speak) and its for sure we all have one thing in common...WE LOVE CLAY AIKEN!!! (Faults & all)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 03:58:08 PM
WHOEVER SAID WOMEN TAKE A LONG TIME GETTING DRESSED NEVER MET MY HUSBAND.   :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang 

GWENN

 :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 04:09:57 PM
Glory IMO some of those gals at the CH are suffering from PMS or some disorder...they have been at it now for almost 3 days. Clay brings out the best and worst in some of us,it appears.  I'm just trying to take it all in stride.

They do tend to... analyze a great deal, don't they? :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 20, 2008, 04:16:45 PM
Sunny ,they use words over there I have to look up in the dictionary


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 04:26:00 PM


                               SOME WORDS I COULD NOT EVEN FIND IN THE DICTIONARY. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 04:31:15 PM
Sunny ,they use words over there I have to look up in the dictionary

I ain't impressed. :wink

At least, my non-intellectual posts haven't gotten me suspended from the board. :angel


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 20, 2008, 04:34:48 PM
Sunny, You go girl, I rather like your posts


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on July 20, 2008, 04:37:54 PM
and so much energy expended when no one even knows yet IIT -- or, if so, in what way.  It could even turn out to be just a tempest in a teapot. Maybe it's just a good idea (as Mimi said about people needing to rant a little) for fans to let the steam out now, so that -- whenever and whatever the truth turns out to be -- they'll be able then to just relax and know that Clay's gonna live his own life as he sees fit, and that that's the Clay they are fans of.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 04:47:23 PM
and so much energy expended when no one even knows yet IIT -- or, if so, in what way.  It could even turn out to be just a tempest in a teapot.
However "it" turns out, it will be a tempest in a teapot. Not for Jaymes and possibly Clay, of course. But, someone else having a baby has no bearing on my life.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 04:50:41 PM
Sunny, You go girl, I rather like your posts

Why, thank you, mimi. :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 20, 2008, 05:08:44 PM


                             PULLING HIS OWN PIG AS IN BBQ. :roflmao

     SHELLEY GWENN WEARS HER HEART ON HER SLEEVE, SHE LOVES CLAY AS MUCH AS ME, AWEEEEEE.


                       I HEAR SMUT  :lol

LOL  GLORY
I logged back on early since my plans changed to later. Did that make sense?

Well anyway, I loved reading what I missed while I was gone.  :wink

As you said, we are all:   :clayfan Love the Man no matter what!
SHELLEY


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 20, 2008, 05:10:54 PM
Glory IMO some of those gals at the CH are suffering from PMS or some disorder...they have been at it now for almost 3 days. Clay brings out the best and worst in some of us,it appears.  I'm just trying to take it all in stride.

Hear! Hear Mimi! I was reading the 3 day rant for the entire 3 days when the thread was pulled. I even PM'd the mod because it was awful!!! I wanted to jump in and comment but there wasn't any point to it.

I am so much happier over here.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 05:13:06 PM


                                       I HAVE NEVER BEEN KICKED OFF A BOARD DON'T INTEND TO BE EITHER, I HOPE :lol

                                   IF I EVER GO TO FAR SUNNY WILL LET ME KNOW  :bigsmile CAUSE SHE LURVES ME.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 20, 2008, 05:13:21 PM
Glory I think it would be fun for us all to have Carolina BBQ and sweet ice tea when you gals come to Raleigh

Sounds good if the tea is unsweetened. :wink

Gotta be sweet 'round these parts.

I'm already sweet enough.  :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 05:17:21 PM


                           YOU CERTAINLY ARE MEESA . PLEASE PM YOUR GRANDMAS NEW ADDRESS SO I CAN SEND HER A CARD.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 20, 2008, 05:20:20 PM


                           YOU CERTAINLY ARE MEESA . PLEASE PM YOUR GRANDMAS NEW ADDRESS SO I CAN SEND HER A CARD.


I was just kidding but thanks! PM'ing you now.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 05:21:59 PM
Glory I think it would be fun for us all to have Carolina BBQ and sweet ice tea when you gals come to Raleigh

Sounds good if the tea is unsweetened. :wink

Gotta be sweet 'round these parts.

I'm already sweet enough.  :bigsmile

Have some tea, dear. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 05:24:06 PM


                                       I HAVE NEVER BEEN KICKED OFF A BOARD DON'T INTEND TO BE EITHER, I HOPE :lol

                                   IF I EVER GO TO FAR SUNNY WILL LET ME KNOW  :bigsmile CAUSE SHE LURVES ME.

Hey, all I ever did was ask about punctuation one measley little time--cuz you put about a half dozen thoughts into one sentence! :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 20, 2008, 05:30:14 PM
Glory I think it would be fun for us all to have Carolina BBQ and sweet ice tea when you gals come to Raleigh

Sounds good if the tea is unsweetened. :wink

Gotta be sweet 'round these parts.

I'm already sweet enough.  :bigsmile

Have some tea, dear. :wink

 :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 20, 2008, 05:32:00 PM
The funny thing about the CH is that their main thread title is: Cause The Best Hasn't Happened Yet....Well I can bet the worst has...they need to rethink their title maybe. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 05:37:20 PM



                            SUNNY BWAH, I TEND TO RUN THINGS TOGETHER BUT SEEMSTO ME YOU HAVE STRAIGHTED ME OUT MORE THAN ONCE MY DEAR. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 20, 2008, 05:43:03 PM
Hi Gals... :wave

Just got in a bit ago...had breakfast out and saw Mamma Mia...with a good friend of mine...fun...although as much as Pierce Brosnan is a cutie patootie...I'd rather have seen my fav...around my age anyway...   :bduh ...Kevin Kline...I think he can sing a bit...and he sure rings my bells...

Good to see you posting a bit Meesa...miss you around dem parts...and yeah...I do read the CH regularly...they get quite analytical...I'm afraid I relate to that in 'meself'...ahem...I do like 'dem fancy words'...but what I love are warm, witty unpretentious folks...smart ...but do not need to wear it out for all to see...and we have 'em in abundance here!

Glory...do you mean Bowling Green Ohio...or is there one in Kentucky too?  One of the loves of my life is from the Ohio location...

Now about NC barbeque...one taste and I'm there...I love NC barbeque...the vinegar sauce or whatever it was...the collard greens...and on and on I could go...Barbara took me to the best place to try it...even the pulled pork wasn't too bad.  Now, if I should luck out on some Gala tickets...I might be able to share the Clay love with the lot of you sooner...!  :hugg

I do hope things settle down on the various boards... IMO a darling baby is on the way...and the Olympics...and maybe with all of that a real Clay appearance...good stuff to come... woohoo!

Sunny save some of that NC tea for me, will you?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 20, 2008, 05:44:27 PM
Wral 101.5 played Clay again twice today ..They played him around 4:40pm, and of course earlier in the morning when most people are sleeping, but at least they are playing him. He has also moved up one position on the chart today to #23. I'm hoping tomorrow to get a reply from the manager explaining to me about the difference in chart position & Top 20 list (which he is # 10,at the present)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 05:59:20 PM
Sunny save some of that NC tea for me, will you?

Will do! :thumb


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 20, 2008, 05:59:24 PM
wish I could play Clay <sniff>


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 06:00:40 PM
wish I could play Clay <sniff>

Don't we all. :wink


Whassup, Marilyn?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 06:00:41 PM
BACK FROM DINNER AT OUR FAVORITE RESTAURANT.  I AM STUFFED.  GOOD FOOD AND UNLIMITED MARGUERITAS.  LIFE IS GOOD.

I JUST READ WHAT I MISSED.  I LOVE THIS PLACE.  YOU LADIES ARE THE BEST.

SPOKE TO MARION.  SHE IS IN SAN DIEGO AND THE WEATHER  IS THE BEST.  I MISS HER.  I MISS CLAY.  BUT HE IS EATING BBQ.

WHAT HAPPENED? :bduh :bduh :bduh :bduh  POSTED BEFORE I WAS FINISHED.  WEIRD.  OR TOO MANY MARGUERITAS. 

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 20, 2008, 06:07:35 PM
Have any of you gals who have reservations at Marriott  heard anymore about your confirmations ? I made Barbara & I a reservation at the Sheraton because all the rooms had been booked at the Marriott for the Gala weekend...but the back exit to the Sheraton faces out on to Fayetteville St and I was told by desk clerk we would be close ...now I'm just keeping my fingers crossed for tickets.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 06:12:57 PM
MARLENE--IF THEY ARE SMART, THEY WILL SELL WHATEVER AMOUNT OF TIX ARE REQUESTED.  THIS IS FOR THE BAF.  I THINK ALL THE MONEY COULD BE USED FOR  THEM   JUST GET A BIGGER ROOM AND STUFF FOLKS IN THERE.  THAT IS MY OPINION. I DON'T CARE IF I AM STUFFED IN.  I WANT TO SEE CLAY.  I LIKE THE BAF.  IT IS ALL GOOD.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 20, 2008, 06:18:19 PM


                                       JOHANNA,NOPE BOWLING GREEN KY. SORRY. WELL I HAVE ENJOYED ANOTHER FUN FILLED DAY ON MY COMPUTER. :bigsmile AND WITH ALL THE FRIENDS I LOVE SO DEARLY ON CM.

                                    I MUST ADMIT MY HEART HURTS STILL FOR MY MOM WHEN I DRIVE BY THE NURSING HOME I TELL MYSELF I NEED TO STOP AND SEE HER, THEN IT HITS ME SHE ISN'T THERE , WELL I AM DONE FOR TODAY DISHES DONE, LAUNDRY DONE APT. PICKED UP  NOBODY HERE TO TALK TO  SO I WILL GO TTYL.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 06:18:53 PM
MARLENE--IF THEY ARE SMART, THEY WILL SELL WHATEVER AMOUNT OF TIX ARE REQUESTED.  THIS IS FOR THE BAF.  I THINK ALL THE MONEY COULD BE USED FOR  THEM   JUST GET A BIGGER ROOM AND STUFF FOLKS IN THERE.  THAT IS MY OPINION. I DON'T CARE IF I AM STUFFED IN.  I WANT TO SEE CLAY.  I LIKE THE BAF.  IT IS ALL GOOD.

GWENN

The BAF says they're using a bigger ballroom this year to accommodate more people. Maybe they'll squeeze in as many folks as the hotel will allow.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 20, 2008, 06:19:20 PM
Of course I agree with you Gwenn cause' I'm wanting 2 of those tickets BADDDDD!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 20, 2008, 06:20:18 PM
We love you back, Glory. :ghug


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 20, 2008, 06:27:52 PM
At times like the gala I wish I still lived in the first house we had when we moved to Raleigh..it had 5 bedrooms & an in ground pool  ...Now wouldn't that be some kind of fun for all the visiting ClayManiacs..We could have really had a PARTYYYY!  but alas, I live now in a 2 bedroom ,with one of the rooms serves as the computor room.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 06:33:20 PM
OH, I KNOW MARLENE.  MUSIKFEST 2004.  I HAD A PARTY HERE.  25 MANIACS.  IT WAS THE BOMB.  ER GOT HOME AROUND 2:30 AND SHE COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.  WE PARTIED BIG TIME.  IT WAS SOOOOOO MUCH FUN.  A VIDEO THAT I WILL NEVER FORGET.  KARAOKEE (SP) THAT WAS JUST EMBARRASSING.  I ONLY HAVE A 30 SECOND VIDEO LEFT.  OMG.   :blush :blush :blush :blush :blush :blush :blush

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 20, 2008, 06:33:50 PM
Its off to bed for me ..Tomorrow I'm going to cheerleading camp, well really I'm taking Rebecca ,but I have to stay with her because they have no medical staff available ,and I will need to check her B/S and regulate her insulin pump after her morning snack.

So goodnight..Talk to you girls again tomorrow.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 20, 2008, 06:56:20 PM
Marilyn and I are hoping for tickets as well. After the disappointment last year, I just hope we get them this year.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 20, 2008, 07:01:20 PM
 :wave

mnimi - I posted earlier in the weeknd that Shirl/ClayObsessed had been called by the Marriott about her room for the Gala - she was told that the convention center hotel was having new hotel problems, and would be opening sometime in August instead of July as scheduled.  They also told her they have no confirmation numbers at this time. Shirl made her reservations as soon as the Gala was announced - in fact, she called before the hotel was even taking reservations, and had to call back a couple of weeks later. She made her reservations before the special Gala rate was announced, but they did change her reservation to the Gala rate later. As we all know, the rooms given at the special rate sold out the first day. I have no idea if the entire hotel is sold out or not. Shirl is going early and staying for a few days - she said that since she is taking the trouble to go all the way from California, she may as well have the time to look around Raleigh - and she is looking forward to trying NC BBQ  :lol


I am rambling - Shirl was probably called because she is "disabled" (the most active disabled person I know - she has flown all over the United States to see Clay - including to New York to see Spamalot), and Marriott has a special division to care for people with special needs. Shirl's room will be the same as anyone else's except that the shower will be wheel chair accessible.

I have mentioned this to Meesa, but she and Marilyn have other plans - Shirl has told me to tell anyone on Claymaniacs that she will be happy to share her room (it has 2 beds), or that she will be happy to turn her reservation over to someone else if she is unable to get a ticket to the Gala.  If anyone is interested, I will contact Shirl for you and she can call you directly, or I will give you her phone number with her permission. Hopefully, anyone who wants a ticket will be able to get one, but you never know. I have my fingers crossed for all of you!!!!!  :cross :cross :cross :cross :cross

The happiest times I've spent in the fandom have been spent in rooms crammed with too many people going EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! over concerts and watchingd DVDs - I will be at the Gala with you in spirit!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 20, 2008, 07:39:41 PM
Marilyn and I are hoping for tickets as well. After the disappointment last year, I just hope we get them this year.

sacrificing  myself as a virgin just won't work. You can't fool mother nature.
Do you think the ticket gods will take an IOU? :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 20, 2008, 08:19:43 PM
WAS JUST OVER AT CV AND THEY ARE POSTING PIX LIKE MAD.  ANYWAY LOOKING AT THEM MAKES ME NOSTALGIC FOR LAST SUMMER.  MAN THAT WAS THE BEST.  FOR SO MANY REASONS.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: paclayfan on July 21, 2008, 05:12:44 AM
 I just read this on Yahoo.  I really hope Clay and Jaymes don't have to go through this garbage.

Quote
Maggie Gyllenhaal's close call
"The Dark Knight" shattered records in its opening weekend, but co-star Maggie Gyllenhaal almost didn't take a role in the blockbuster film. Here's why: In 2006, just five days after giving birth, the actress was doing her best to keep her new baby out of the public eye. And the paparazzi didn't like it. To foil the publicity-shy mother, cameramen placed a call about a fake fire on the star's block. The hoax drove mama and infant outside—and into the flash of the waiting cameras.

Gyllenhaal was so disgusted by the trick and so wary of new paparazzi-prone projects, she almost dropped out of the Batman sequel.


http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/91624


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 21, 2008, 05:33:15 AM
Oh, man. That's just disgusting. Isn't there some kind of law against calling in a false alarm? What is wrong with those people?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on July 21, 2008, 05:36:49 AM
Hi paclayfan -- Regarding your post, I wonder if Claymaniacs should decide the safest protocol regarding future (IIT), and present (until things cool down) sitings of Clay and Jaymes, and (IIT)of their child.  Even sitings of Clay without his child or partner (IIT) could alert the papparazzi and others to his/her/their whereabouts.  This is not only an issue of privacy, but more importantly of personal safety.   (IIT, folks who post photos on free blog sites (blogspot. flickr, etc.) should also be reminded that blogged photos on these free blog sites enter the public domain and can be easily accessed by anyone.)  I think that all of this attention may just dissolve in the near future -- and others may be posting sitings in any event -- but perhaps for now it could be a concern...


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 21, 2008, 05:40:55 AM
Hi paclayfan -- Regarding your post, I wonder if Claymaniacs should decide the safest protocol regarding future (IIT), and present (until things cool down) sitings of Clay and Jaymes, and (IIT)of their child.  Even sitings of Clay without his child or partner (IIT) could alert the papparazzi and others to his/her/their whereabouts.  This is not only an issue of privacy, but more importantly of personal safety.   (IIT, folks who post photos on free blog sites (blogspot. flickr, etc.) should also be reminded that blogged photos on these free blog sites enter the public domain and can be easily accessed by anyone.) 

Paparazzi have their own network of contacts, many of whom they pay for up-to-the-second information. If they relied on anything as (relatively) slow and after-the-fact as an internet posting, they'd never get their pictures.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 21, 2008, 06:03:44 AM
Hi paclayfan -- Regarding your post, I wonder if Claymaniacs should decide the safest protocol regarding future (IIT), and present (until things cool down) sitings of Clay and Jaymes, and (IIT)of their child.  Even sitings of Clay without his child or partner (IIT) could alert the papparazzi and others to his/her/their whereabouts.  This is not only an issue of privacy, but more importantly of personal safety.   (IIT, folks who post photos on free blog sites (blogspot. flickr, etc.) should also be reminded that blogged photos on these free blog sites enter the public domain and can be easily accessed by anyone.) 

Paparazzi have their own network of contacts, many of whom they pay for up-to-the-second information. If they relied on anything as (relatively) slow and after-the-fact as an internet posting, they'd never get their pictures.

AGREE, SUNNY.  BY THE TIME WE HEAR ABOUT CLAY BEING SEEN SOMEWHERE, HE IS SO LONG GONE.  AND THESE SIGHTINGS ARE SO RARE.  THIS IS THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE HAD SINCE THE PROMO STOPPED FOR THE CD.  AND THIS FANDOM IS VERY GOOD AT INVESTIGATION.  CLAY IS EVEN BETTER AT KEEPING HIS LIFE PRIVATE.  I AM NOT WORRIED ONE BIT ABOUT HIS OR JAYMES'S SAFETY.  THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.  WELL, IN THIS CASE THEY DO.   :wink

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on July 21, 2008, 06:35:37 AM
I'm sure you are all right on this.  While I didn't mean fleeting individual events, the paparazzi are probably already staked out in Raleigh as well as LA, and don't need to told he is here. 


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Post by: corbet on July 21, 2008, 07:01:36 AM
   Mainer,
                The calm voice of reason.   
                                                                Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 21, 2008, 09:13:57 AM
I think Clay will be fine - I don't think anyone (except maybe TMZ) cares where he, or Jaymes for that matter, is right now or in the future. Look at the non-publicity for the Somalia trip - if we were not fans, would we even know anything at all about it? I don't see big money being offered for photos of the baby.


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Post by: Sundancer on July 21, 2008, 09:28:35 AM
I think Clay will be fine - I don't think anyone (except maybe TMZ) cares where he, or Jaymes for that matter, is right now or in the future.
Nope--except maybe some of the crazier fans.

They're likely to be the only ones "hiding in the bushes" around here, hoping to catch a glimpse of a baby.


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Post by: lovinclay on July 21, 2008, 10:09:28 AM
Oh, I'm very sure TMZ is interested.  After all, they "broke" the story.  I imagine they'll want "chapter two" of the babydramma.  Actually, that's probably how we'll hear about the birth first.  Sad, isn't it? 


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Post by: Glory on July 21, 2008, 10:28:46 AM



                       I WAS HOPING ITT CLAY WOULD ANNOUNCE IT. BUT TMZ KINDA NIXED THAT, I DISLIKE SWAMP PEOPLE VERY MUCH. I MISS HIM JUST A WORD WOULD HELP.

                    I AM AFRAID HE MAY NOT COME BACK. THERE GOES THAT GUT FEELING AGAIN, I HOPE I AM WRONG.


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Post by: lovinclay on July 21, 2008, 11:33:52 AM
I hope you're wrong, too, Glory.


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Post by: fhmmany2 on July 21, 2008, 11:51:25 AM
Glory - don't make me get Boca's paddle out!  :wink Will I never get you and Woody to stop worrying?  :lol Clay might not come back in the same way (don't know why I have a feeling that something new is coming, but I do), but he will be back - how could he possibly make it  through life without us?  :lmao


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Post by: claymate27 on July 21, 2008, 11:54:43 AM
Glory - don't make me get Boca's paddle out!  :wink Will I never get you and Woody to stop worrying?  :lol Clay might not come back in the same way (don't know why I have a feeling that something new is coming, but I do), but he will be back - how could he possibly make it  through life without us?  :lmao

Yes.....what she said.....word.....to it all.........Except the paddle part... :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 21, 2008, 12:16:33 PM
Of course he will be back-one way or another. He did not give any indication that he wouldn't. He LOVES performing, look at the joy and the bounce (especially the bounce) during concerts. He feeds off the crowd as we do him (meaning the energy level)
Also, because he has BAF and UNICEF, he needs his entertainment side to keep his name out there. One is connected with the other. Without visibility, he may not be able to do what is needed to keep the causes going. Lastly- what would he do? He said to Mo at Benihana that he didn't know what he would do but he likes doing what he is doing. He LOVES singing, he loves interacting with the crowd (at a safe distance on stage) and we need his energy and charisma to keep us coming.

So I never had any doubt that he would be back. Although I feel for those who are worried, there is NO indication that he is on permanent hiatus. I truly do not understand where that idea comes from. He is on vacation- he started it later due to the Somalia trip, but he has not disappeared off the face of the earth.

Do I have to resort to more smut to cheer people up? come on now, you know you want it!!

oh wait, I already did -and no one noticed!~!!! :lol


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Post by: lovinclay on July 21, 2008, 12:26:26 PM
I sure wish I was as optomistic as most of you.  I believe he will be back, but not anytime in the near future.  I feel he'll be taking a year off, (don't know why, as I have not insider contacts), and I don't know if his career can handle that.  JMHO.   Any cheering up is most welcome. 


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Post by: Sundancer on July 21, 2008, 12:29:44 PM
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oh wait, I already did -and no one noticed!~!!! :lol

I noticed, my dear. I just let it slide.

So to speak. :wink


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Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 21, 2008, 12:38:37 PM
MARILYN - Have you ever considered being a "motivational speaker"?  :smile   

Even the thought of Clay not singing to us from a stage again makes me skeered.  I will keep repeating to myself . . "he is on vacation, he is on vacation".   :hypno

It will be a joyful day in the Clay Nation, when we hear what his plans are (beyond the BAF Gala).  Until then, I will worry with the worriers and also I will think positive with those who keep up the positive spin.

On any given day, I could be a member of both camps, with a heavy leaning toward the positive ~ usually. :para


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Post by: Sundancer on July 21, 2008, 12:47:49 PM
It will be a joyful day in the Clay Nation, when we hear what his plans are (beyond the BAF Gala). 

And, in the next second, the ticket stress will begin. :lol


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Post by: luluasst on July 21, 2008, 01:01:47 PM
Of course he will be back-one way or another. He did not give any indication that he wouldn't. He LOVES performing, look at the joy and the bounce (especially the bounce) during concerts. He feeds off the crowd as we do him (meaning the energy level)
Also, because he has BAF and UNICEF, he needs his entertainment side to keep his name out there. One is connected with the other. Without visibility, he may not be able to do what is needed to keep the causes going. Lastly- what would he do? He said to Mo at Benihana that he didn't know what he would do but he likes doing what he is doing. He LOVES singing, he loves interacting with the crowd (at a safe distance on stage) and we need his energy and charisma to keep us coming.

So I never had any doubt that he would be back. Although I feel for those who are worried, there is NO indication that he is on permanent hiatus. I truly do not understand where that idea comes from. He is on vacation- he started it later due to the Somalia trip, but he has not disappeared off the face of the earth.



 Marilyn: :word  The man is NOT going to stop singing or entertaining! As I've written before, I think a talk show is in order and/or more theatre. The guy hasn't even been back from Somalia that long - he deserves a rest IMO!


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Post by: Glory on July 21, 2008, 01:23:16 PM



                                        OK WHERE'S SUNNY AND MARILYN I NEED SOME SMUT TODAY BIG TIME, NO PUN INTENED. :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 21, 2008, 01:34:16 PM
GLORY--SMUT IS ALWAYS GOOD.  VERY GOOD. 

I AM SOOOO HAPPY CLAY WAS SPOTTED YESTERDAY JUST BEING HIMSELF WITH HIS FRIENDS.  WARMS MY HEART.  GOOD FOR HIM.  AND GOOD FOR US.

BUT ONE THING THAT IS A LITTLE OFF TO ME.  IF JAYMES IS GONNA HAVE THIS BABY LIKE REALLY SOON, ISN'T IT KIND OF ODD THAT HE ISN'T WITH HER?  SHE MAY HAVE A PLANNED C-SECTION (I AM SURE OF THAT AT HER AGE) BUT BABIES DON'T ALWAYS CARE WHAT PLANS ARE MADE.  THOUGHTS?

AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT CLAY IS LEAVING THE ENTERTAINMENT WORLD.  HE WOULD BE STUPID TO DO THAT AFTER HIS SUCCESS IN SPAMALOT.  HE GOT RESPECT.  HE MADE MONEY FOR THE SHOW. 

AS FOR TOURING, I DON'T THINK HE IS GONNA STOP THAT EITHER.  JUST NOT RIGHT NOW.  I FORESEE A VERY SHORT CHRISTMAS TOUR.  THEN A 1-2 MONTH TOUR NEXT YEAR.  I AM HOPING BEFORE THE SUMMER, BUT I AM THINKING PROBABLY NOT. 

I DO GET A FEELING THAT SOMETHING ELSE IS GONNA HAPPEN IN BETWEEN.  I DON'T KNOW WHAT.  I AM NOT A FORTUNE TELLER.  MAYBE A MIDSEASON REPLACEMENT.  WHO KNOWS. 

I WISH WE DID KNOW.  BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE DAYS OF KNOWING WHAT HE IS UP TO ARE GONE.  JUST LIKE SEEING PERSONAL PIX AND BLOGS.  MY OPINION IS THAT THE OFC IS DEAD. 

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 21, 2008, 01:41:38 PM
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BUT ONE THING THAT IS A LITTLE OFF TO ME.  IF JAYMES IS GONNA HAVE THIS BABY LIKE REALLY SOON, ISN'T IT KIND OF ODD THAT HE ISN'T WITH HER?  SHE MAY HAVE A PLANNED C-SECTION (I AM SURE OF THAT AT HER AGE) BUT BABIES DON'T ALWAYS CARE WHAT PLANS ARE MADE.  THOUGHTS?
Maybe the baby won't be fully "cooked" for another few weeks.

Or, maybe she was kickin' back at Le Chateau Aiken in the air-conditioning, while he went out.

Or, maybe she just said, "I'll let ya know when there's news! Quit calling me!" :lol


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Post by: Sundancer on July 21, 2008, 01:42:10 PM

                                        OK WHERE'S SUNNY AND MARILYN I NEED SOME SMUT TODAY BIG TIME, NO PUN INTENED. :bigsmile

'Sounds like you're doing fine there, Glory!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Tiffany on July 21, 2008, 01:48:11 PM
I don't believe that Clay is leaving us either and when he's ready to tell us something he'll do it. Sure hope he will tour for Christmas. BTW Jaymes came into the OFC last night. She read about the Sighting yesterday and came back and started to PM someone. Hmmm


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Post by: GWENN on July 21, 2008, 01:52:20 PM
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BUT ONE THING THAT IS A LITTLE OFF TO ME.  IF JAYMES IS GONNA HAVE THIS BABY LIKE REALLY SOON, ISN'T IT KIND OF ODD THAT HE ISN'T WITH HER?  SHE MAY HAVE A PLANNED C-SECTION (I AM SURE OF THAT AT HER AGE) BUT BABIES DON'T ALWAYS CARE WHAT PLANS ARE MADE.  THOUGHTS?
Maybe the baby won't be fully "cooked" for another few weeks.

Or, maybe she was kickin' back at Le Chateau Aiken in the air-conditioning, while he went out.

Or, maybe she just said, "I'll let ya know when there's news! Quit calling me!" :lol

OH, I BET HE IS CALLING HER CONSTANTLY. 

I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT HE WOULD WANT TO SHARE THE EXCITEMENT.  UNLESS SHE IS REALLY CRANKY AND HE SAID----LET ME KNOW WHEN IT IS OVER. :dunno :scratch

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 21, 2008, 01:53:58 PM
I don't believe that Clay is leaving us either and when he's ready to tell us something he'll do it. Sure hope he will tour for Christmas. BTW Jaymes came into the OFC last night. She read about the Sighting yesterday and came back and started to PM someone. Hmmm

TIFFANY----INTERESTING FOR SURE.  WONDER WHO SHE PM'ED.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 21, 2008, 01:59:42 PM


                             I THINK THE OFC IS A GONER TO GWENN UNLESS CLAY OR SOMEONE HAS A PLAN TO REVIVE IT.AFTER THE LAST ROUNDS OF ATTACKS JAYMES AND CLAY READ I COULD HARDLY BLAME THEM FOR DISTANCING THEMSELVES. BUT SEEMS LIKE WE ALL GET PUNISHED CAUSE A FEW WON'T KEEP THERE BIG MOUTHS SHUT OVER THERE MOST OF CLAY'S FANS ARE GOOD AND DECENT PEOPLE.

                       I REMEMBER A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE EVEN GOT VACATION PICTURES AND MESSAGES FROM CLAY,  AND I LOVED HIS BLOGS FOR THE MOST PARTS EVEN THE ONES WHERE HE FUSSED AT US.

                         WE HAVE BEEN THRU THICK AND THIN WITH HIM AND I AM SURE HE LOVES US, BUT SOMETHING FEELS OFF TO ME TO.

                             SINCE WE DON'T KNOW IF A BABY IS ON THE WAY CLAYS I MEAN I WOULD LOVE TO CHOKE nonameblogger AND TMZ,AND THE ONES WHO STARTED ALL THIS. THATS WHY I WILL NOT BELEIVE ANYTHING THEY SAY.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on July 21, 2008, 02:02:02 PM
Hello all -- I also don't see any reason yet to think that Clay is gonna retire from the entertainment world -- I also think we should take him at his word, that he is on vacation.

I thought it quite interesting that Clay is in NC and not LA -- with all that might suggest -- but even should IIT be true, he might be taking a quick visit home to connect with friends and family, especially if there is a scheduled birth coming up soon.  But I also think that, IIT, Jaymes could also be in NC.  Even if it is unwise for her to fly now, she could have come earlier to avoid LA scrutiny.  IIT, they might plan to have the child in NC, where they might have more privacy, than in LA. 

The media sure made hay out of the TMZ story -- it was everywhere -- people were calling Clay the next wacko jacko, and etc.  It seems not so much the news that he may be having a baby, but the whole spin that TMZ has put on things, that makes the story salacious to the tabloid media hounds. 

The second pregnant photo of Jaymes seemed to me to be picking at straws.  I thought it looked like it was taken earlier, and was photoshopped.  It seemed like they wanted to get more mileage out of the story they were spinning, but couldn't get any useful new material so had to create something.  I think the story has generated buzz, and not just with Clay fans and haters.  I suspect that if someone could get a current pregnant photo of Jaymes, especially if they could get one of the two of them together, they'd love to run it.  Jaymes has dropped below the radar (unless something is coming out Thursday, or whenever the tabloids come out).  It seems the two make a point of not appearing in public together unless they're within a group.

woops -- gotta run. shall send this without finishing or correcting


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: paclayfan on July 21, 2008, 02:04:00 PM
I think the paparazzi will be very interested in this baby and pictures of him/her.
Look what a news story it made when it broke.  It was the lead story on most of the entertainment shows.  I don't think that they will stay interested too long, though.

The tabloids aren't interested in Somalia or human interest items.- Too positive


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Post by: mainer on July 21, 2008, 02:17:12 PM
I think the paparazzi will be very interested in this baby and pictures of him/her.
Look what a news story it made when it broke.  It was the lead story on most of the entertainment shows.  I don't think that they will stay interested too long, though.

The tabloids aren't interested in Somalia or human interest items.- Too positive

So sad, but true.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 21, 2008, 02:36:47 PM
 :wave all!.  I've been so absorbed with RL, esp. wedding planning details these past few days that I haven't had a chance to even lurk over here on Claymaniacs.

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Of course he will be back-one way or another. He did not give any indication that he wouldn't. He LOVES performing, look at the joy and the bounce (especially the bounce) during concerts. He feeds off the crowd as we do him (meaning the energy level)
Also, because he has BAF and UNICEF, he needs his entertainment side to keep his name out there. One is connected with the other. Without visibility, he may not be able to do what is needed to keep the causes going. Lastly- what would he do? He said to Mo at Benihana that he didn't know what he would do but he likes doing what he is doing. He LOVES singing, he loves interacting with the crowd (at a safe distance on stage) and we need his energy and charisma to keep us coming.

So I never had any doubt that he would be back. Although I feel for those who are worried, there is NO indication that he is on permanent hiatus. I truly do not understand where that idea comes from. He is on vacation- he started it later due to the Somalia trip, but he has not disappeared off the face of the earth.


MARILYN, I totally agree!   :clap  I know it makes for good conversation and spirited debate as we angst over Clay's seemingly having flown under the radar these days; but frankly I don't think we have anything to worry about.  Clay will resurface again in his own due time, and it will be up to us to accept or reject the form in which he does so.  He is an entertainer, has been and always will be in one way or another.  As MARILYN mentioned, he feeds off of crowds as much as we feed off of him.  IMO this is something that you cannot abandon easily.  As a musician myself...a pianist/accompanist having evolved into a teacher and now into a choir director, I can honestly say I would be absolutely miserable and empty without doing something music-related for the rest of my life.   Believe me, music is a "calling", in a sense, that you can't easily turn your back on.

Don't worry--he will be back, ladies!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 21, 2008, 02:38:31 PM
My D/H & I have talked about the reason for the possible low key UNICEF drive for Somalia and that it might be a lot of people in the US still harbor ill will,and a grudge, against the Somalian government for what happened there over the Blackhawk incident and therefore ,have no sympathy for the government ,or the people,which unfortunately include the innocent children.
Maybe Clay was a little apprehensive that the people wouldn't respond & give as usual, because of the circumstances that happened years ago.

I also don't think Clay is harboring any dislike for his fans ,I just think he said ,and he has said it quite clearly ,(and often),that he was taking the summer off...and we all know he can be be stubborn,and I think he is sticking to his guns...No telling what he is planning for us next ,but I am waiting and most anxious to see what it will be....I am sure it will be something that will be scrutinized again(eg. role in Spamalot)by many fans ,but I can hardly wait.  This is all  IMO...So just shoot me!


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Post by: luluasst on July 21, 2008, 02:52:43 PM
My D/H & I have talked about the reason for the possible low key UNICEF drive for Somalia and that it might be a lot of people in the US still harbor ill will,and a grudge, against the Somalian government for what happened there over the Blackhawk incident and therefore ,have no sympathy for the government ,or the people,which unfortunately include the innocent children.
Maybe Clay was a little apprehensive that the people wouldn't respond & give as usual, because of the circumstances that happened years ago.

I also don't think Clay is harboring any dislike for his fans ,I just think he said ,and he has said it quite clearly ,(and often),that he was taking the summer off...and we all know he can be be stubborn,and I think he is sticking to his guns...No telling what he is planning for us next ,but I am waiting and most anxious to see what it will be....I am sure it will be something that will be scrutinized again(eg. role in Spamalot)by many fans ,but I can hardly wait.  This is all  IMO...So just shoot me!

No shooting necessary Mimi.  You are spot on. Some people just like the  :drama !


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 21, 2008, 03:01:51 PM
But I also think that, IIT, Jaymes could also be in NC.  Even if it is unwise for her to fly now, she could have come earlier to avoid LA scrutiny.  IIT, they might plan to have the child in NC, where they might have more privacy, than in LA.

That makes sense...


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 21, 2008, 03:05:37 PM
I don't believe that Clay is leaving us either and when he's ready to tell us something he'll do it. Sure hope he will tour for Christmas. BTW Jaymes came into the OFC last night. She read about the Sighting yesterday and came back and started to PM someone. Hmmm

TIFFANY----INTERESTING FOR SURE.  WONDER WHO SHE PM'ED.

GWENN

I was on line at OFC when that happened. Quite a buzz for about 30 minutes.  :rolleyes


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 21, 2008, 03:09:05 PM
I still think it would be a kick in the teeth to TMZ if it WASN'T true!!!

No one has confirmed it from either camp. Except for Eric Roberts- and I REALLY rely on his opinion. Who knows, it COULD be true...............but what if it wasn't?? Now THERE is food for thought! Would all those "fans" on the OFC who said such nasty things apologize to Clay? Would they all feel badly that they jumped to conclusions without any justification? My thought is ...................NAH!!


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Post by: luluasst on July 21, 2008, 03:13:59 PM

 Who knows, it COULD be true...............but what if it wasn't?? Now THERE is food for thought! Would all those "fans" on the OFC who said such nasty things apologize to Clay? Would they all feel badly that they jumped to conclusions without any justification? My thought is ...................NAH!!

 :clap Exactly! That's why OFC barely has a pulse right now.


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Post by: Glory on July 21, 2008, 03:15:02 PM


                                TMZ MIGHT HAVE TO EAT SOME CROW IS IT WRONG OF ME TO HOPE THEY CHOKE ON SAID CROW. :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on July 21, 2008, 04:03:33 PM
Hi tiffany --

How would Jaymes come onto the OFC?  Couldn't anyone claim to be her -- or does she have her own blog line on that site?

I can't imagine that she would respond to things there -- anymore than Clay would respond to tabloid stories -- that feels crazy to me...???

I agree with those who think it would be interesting if the various media outlets, especially TMZ, had to eat crow.  I imagine that, whatever the truth is that will eventually emerge from all of this, those negative fans might also have to eat, if not crow, maybe a slice of humble pie.  The amazing thing about the tabloids is that they can be, and often are, dead wrong and no one seems to care.

well, we just hope for a happy outcome for Jaymes, her baby if she is having one, for Clay and all of his loved ones. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 21, 2008, 04:04:49 PM

     Does anyone remember when people went after Faye about some book. < Faye
     said the story was untrue. At that time Clay said he can take people going after him
     but ,when they start on his family and loved ones then  it is unaceptable and he was
     pretty mad then.  I believe this is his reaction now, especially if there is any truth in
     the rumour. He is pretty angry I  think and I can"t blame him. Time alone will tell.
                             
                                                                                                 Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 21, 2008, 05:05:52 PM
JUST BACK FROM DINNER WITH SIL, BIL, AND HIS SON/DAUGHTER IL AND THEIR KIDS.  FAMILY.  BIG TIME.  IT WAS NICE.  :wink

WHAT WOULD JUST BE THE BEST----AND I AM NOT SURE IT IS EVEN PROBABLE---IS IF THERE IS NO BABY.  AND CLAY HAS DECIDED TO JUST LET THIS PLAY ITSELF OUT.  NOW, JAYMES CERTAINLY SAID SHE WAS PREGNANT SO I AM NOT DOUBTING HER HAVING A CHILD, BUT WOULDN'T IT BE SOMETHING IF IT WASN'T CLAY'S?  WOW.  I WOULD LOVE THAT FOR SURE.  I GUESS IT IS JUST AS POSSIBLE AS THE OPPOSITE.  BUT WOULDN'T THAT BE SOMETHING?  MUD IN THE FACE OF THAT HARVEY PERSON.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 21, 2008, 05:17:27 PM
This day has proved to be a day of preseverance as I have spent 3hrs at a cheerleading camp with 69 girls ,ages 6-14, plus the school cheer leading squad.

I have had to endure listening to "The Car Wash" at least a thousand times :pullhair over blaring loudspakers at both ends of the gym. By the end of the week I will be  :hypno Yea! Yea! Go Tigers, Go Hornets,  :cheer  (go away,far,far away IMO)

"Switch It ", Change It" Rearrange It"....sounds like this could be FRANKIE'S theme song :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 21, 2008, 05:38:07 PM



                                    GWENN I SMELL CROW.ME THINKS, AND SOME HUMBLE PIE BAKING YEP I DO. I WOULD LOVE FOR CLAY TO THROW THIS IN THEIR FACES.ITNT. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 21, 2008, 05:49:00 PM
My gosh, are people gonna get more and more hyped up over this "baby" topic until Jaymes gives birth? I just read the last page to catch up, and the stress level is palpable. So many "IIT"s; so many posts dancing around the question, trying to be tactful; fresh anger toward the tabloids...

Life's short! Is it really the best use of your time and resources to get tied up in knots over something involving people you don't actually know and have no influence over?

I'm not telling anyone not to care. And I know some folks are afraid they're gonna lose something that's become very important to them--the trips, the concerts, the friendships, etc. I'm not even saying, "Don't post how you feel." I'm just wondering why some people are hanging the rest of their lives on what Clay Aiken may decide to do with his.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 21, 2008, 05:55:13 PM
GWENN, In response to your last post, I have all along not believed these rumors. As I posted a while back, the 1st of June when this story broke, I was away and did not have access to internet. When I got home and starting reading all of the posts on this site I could not believe it. Please someone try to find the picture of Jaymes at that particular time. She was VERY pregnant looking and I had stated could it have been photoshopped. Since then a new picture of her was spotted and she was not big at all.
I think ALL IS WELL with Clay!

Rosemary


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 21, 2008, 06:00:16 PM



                               NOTHING ESLE TO ADD ON THE SUBJECT.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 21, 2008, 06:08:13 PM
Hi tiffany --

How would Jaymes come onto the OFC?  Couldn't anyone claim to be her -- or does she have her own blog line on that site?

I can't imagine that she would respond to things there -- anymore than Clay would respond to tabloid stories -- that feels crazy to me...???



Jaymes use to blog under the name CLAYANDR and that was who was on the site last night.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 21, 2008, 06:11:43 PM
I THINK PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS CRAP CAUSE THERE IS NOTHING ELSE GOING ON.  PLAIN AND SIMPLE.  MY LIFE GOES ON WITH OR WITHOUT CLAY.  I PREFER TO HAVE IT WITH CLAY AND I THINK MOST FOLKS HERE FEEL THE SAME.  I THINK THE ANGSTING TIME IS WAY PAST.  IT IS WHAT IT IS.

IF YOU WANT TO READ ANGST, GO OVER TO THE CH.  THEY ARE OVER THE TOP RIGHT NOW.  THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING SAID ABOUT JAYMES ARE COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE.  JUDGING IS OVER THE TOP.

I THINK WE ARE ALL PRETTY TOGETHER HERE.  I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE IS A MESS OVER THIS.  WE SEEM TO BE THE SANEST GROUP OF ALL. 

JMHO.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 21, 2008, 06:12:31 PM


HAPPY BIRTHDAY MIMI!   :birthday

Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 21, 2008, 06:13:38 PM


I THINK WE ARE ALL PRETTY TOGETHER HERE.  I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE IS A MESS OVER THIS.  WE SEEM TO BE THE SANEST GROUP OF ALL. 

JMHO.

GWENN


JMHO too Gwenn!  :clap Here here - Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 21, 2008, 06:28:55 PM


                             YEAH GWENN I AM DONE WITH IT. NOTHING WE CAN DO TO CHANGE ANYTHING ANYWAY. THIS TO SHALL PASS WE SEEM SANE DON'T WE. :lol I USALLY DON'T THINK OF ME AS TO SANE BUT COMPARED I GUESS I AM. :roflmao

                       

                           


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 21, 2008, 06:48:39 PM
Shelley ~ thank you for the early birthday wish..my birthday is actually on the 24th...when I  will become 'OLDER THAN DIRT"  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 21, 2008, 06:52:21 PM
 
Quote
. YEAH GWENN I AM DONE WITH IT. NOTHING WE CAN DO TO CHANGE ANYTHING ANYWAY. THIS TO SHALL PASS WE SEEM SANE DON'T WE.  I USALLY DON'T THINK OF ME AS TO SANE BUT COMPARED I GUESS I AM.

                            NOW LETS SMUT.

 
  :lol  GLORY, but before the smutting begins I think "The Serenity Prayer" might be appropriate.   It's all about accepting what we can't change, yada yada.  I'm going to quote the first few lines to hopefully help myself to keep all of this in perspective.  At this point in my life I am trying hard to find peace and tranquillity and pure joy in each day.  I am striving to no longer be overly concerned about things that are out of my control.  Possibly it may help others who are dealing with angst during this "period of uncertainty:.  Here it goes:

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;  


Now go forth and smut to your hearts' content, CM'ers!!!  :lol



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 21, 2008, 06:54:35 PM
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Shelley ~ thank you for the early birthday wish..my birthday is actually on the 24th...when I  will become 'OLDER THAN DIRT" 


MIMI, I'll taking being "OLDER THAN DIRT" over taking a "DIRT NAP" any time, though!!!  :para  :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 21, 2008, 07:02:50 PM
Thea, You got that right.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 21, 2008, 07:10:09 PM
I just went to Lycos 50 to vote for Mr Aiken,and he has dropped from #3, to # 7.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 21, 2008, 07:17:06 PM
Shelley ~ thank you for the early birthday wish..my birthday is actually on the 24th...when I  will become 'OLDER THAN DIRT"  :lol


 :lmao  You silly!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 21, 2008, 07:32:55 PM
GWENN, In response to your last post, I have all along not believed these rumors. As I posted a while back, the 1st of June when this story broke, I was away and did not have access to internet. When I got home and starting reading all of the posts on this site I could not believe it. Please someone try to find the picture of Jaymes at that particular time. She was VERY pregnant looking and I had stated could it have been photoshopped. Since then a new picture of her was spotted and she was not big at all.
I think ALL IS WELL with Clay!

Rosemary

Here's the first pic posted 6/2

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/th_0602_jaymes_foster_npg_exc_01-1.jpg) (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/0602_jaymes_foster_npg_exc_01-1.jpg)


and here's the second pic posted 7/1

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/th_0701_jaymes_foster_exc.jpg) (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/0701_jaymes_foster_exc.jpg)

They don't appear to be photoshopped to me.  But just because they surfaced on those dates doesn't mean they were taken on those dates IMO.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 21, 2008, 07:37:48 PM


                                GOODNIGHT I AM POOPED


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 21, 2008, 07:42:28 PM
!

Rosemary

Here's the first pic posted 6/2

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/th_0602_jaymes_foster_npg_exc_01-1.jpg) (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/0602_jaymes_foster_npg_exc_01-1.jpg)


and here's the second pic posted 7/1

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/th_0701_jaymes_foster_exc.jpg) (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20and%20Family/0701_jaymes_foster_exc.jpg)

They don't appear to be photoshopped to me.  But just because they surfaced on those dates doesn't mean they were taken on those dates IMO.



For what it's worth, I only gained 12 pounds when I was pregnant. Don't hate me!  :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 21, 2008, 07:48:11 PM
I do.   :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 21, 2008, 07:57:03 PM
I do.   :lol

What can I say? I'm small boned.....okay I WAS small boned!  :lol That was 18 years ago!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 21, 2008, 08:17:59 PM
i. am. not. stressed.
I am not stressed
I am NOT stressed
I AM not stressed
I am not STRESSED
I AM NOT STRESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bang :bang :bang


just kidding, Sunny!! :lol :lol

Personally, yeah or nay makes no difference to me or the way I feel about Clay. Jaymes is just there- I am ambivalent- I do not dislike her or have any strong feelings. It puzzles me how people DO get worked up about her, truly!!
Now, if I could get some of those TMZ reporters at the end of my fist, I would be a happy camper. Not ONLY because of Clay, but because of many other celebrities too. I watched the show ONCE- and there were about twelve cameramen with their cameras shoved in Britney Spears face while she was trying to shop in a store. I could not BELIEVE how they encroached on her personal space. And the scary part is that people LOVE this- and the TV and tabloids pay BIG bucks. I just do not understand cruelty, or viciousness, or brazen stretches of the truth. And I would NEVER get so close to people unless invited.

My mum brought me up better than that. I wonder how theirs brought them up? Evidently they failed in manners 101 or people skills basic.

And thats all I'm saying about THAT!!



(until my next post-ha!! thought you would get away easy, didja???)

Having a baby IS the best thing (I would have had more if I could have), and if thats what Jaymes wants-then who is anyone else to make that judgment for her?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 21, 2008, 10:55:25 PM
i. am. not. stressed.
I am not stressed
I am NOT stressed
I AM not stressed
I am not STRESSED
I AM NOT STRESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bang :bang :bang


just kidding, Sunny!! :lol :lol

Personally, yeah or nay makes no difference to me or the way I feel about Clay. Jaymes is just there- I am ambivalent- I do not dislike her or have any strong feelings. It puzzles me how people DO get worked up about her, truly!!
Now, if I could get some of those TMZ reporters at the end of my fist, I would be a happy camper. Not ONLY because of Clay, but because of many other celebrities too. I watched the show ONCE- and there were about twelve cameramen with their cameras shoved in Britney Spears face while she was trying to shop in a store. I could not BELIEVE how they encroached on her personal space. And the scary part is that people LOVE this- and the TV and tabloids pay BIG bucks. I just do not understand cruelty, or viciousness, or brazen stretches of the truth. And I would NEVER get so close to people unless invited.
My mum brought me up better than that. I wonder how theirs brought them up? Evidently they failed in manners 101 or people skills basic.

And thats all I'm saying about THAT!!



(until my next post-ha!! thought you would get away easy, didja???)

Having a baby IS the best thing (I would have had more if I could have), and if thats what Jaymes wants-then who is anyone else to make that judgment for her?

I so agree Marilyn...I just don't get it either!!  I hope the joy you've experienced with Clay trumps what ever stress you are experiencing of late...  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 22, 2008, 03:40:23 AM
 :morning :mornjava  Hope everyone is well ...

Just came by before I leave for work to see if possibly there may be some new Clay news...well no luck, so its off to work and another fun day at cheerleading camp...Oh! Goody!

It is suppose to be 100 in Raleigh ,with a heat index of 106, so we're in for a HOt one today.

See you all later this evening   

Lets hear a C , Lets hear an L, Lets hear an A, Lets hear a Y       YEA! CLAY!!! :cheer2    :bigsmile   3 more days :cry


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 22, 2008, 04:08:21 AM
i. am. not. stressed.


I so agree Marilyn...I just don't get it either!!  I hope the joy you've experienced with Clay trumps what ever stress you are experiencing of late...  


No, No!!- it was a JOKE, Johanna- I am truly not stressed at all. I was responding to Sunny's post. I am in a very happy place at this time. REALLY!!

Good Morning ALL!! Happy Tuesday!! :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on July 22, 2008, 04:21:38 AM


Jaymes use to blog under the name CLAYANDR and that was who was on the site last night.
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luluasst -- (hard to believe you're a "newbie," although I know that that is only in relation to this site -- and also thought I'd mention that this reads as "lulu asset") --

Anyway, if folks on the OFC think Jaymes goes there and might be personally checking out their posts, and if a few are nonetheless really misbehaving as people here say they are, then negative comments re Jaymes seem particularly vindictive.  If some of these negative posters are actually fans -- and don't assume these fans are all women either, or people who would accept any woman in his life -- we know it's just a psychologoical thing.  Neither Clay not Jaymes is real to any of these posters (even if a few might have met him in his restricted role as an entertainer).  As previously said, the same thing happened in spades when Paul McCartney married Linda, although I suppose this situation is somewhat different in that J has a connection to him that is both personal and professional. 



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: LOVE CLAY on July 22, 2008, 05:23:32 AM
Thank you to franniek54 and Luluasst for finding the pictures for me. :hugg
Marilyn, I will gladly help you with the "fisting" of TMZ! :hugg

Rosemary


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 22, 2008, 05:43:06 AM
MORNING ALL--

STRESS OVER CLAY?  THAT LEFT OVER A MONTH AGO.  CURIOSITY?  THAT WILL NEVER LEAVE.  I KNOW NONE OF IT IS ANY OF MY BUSINESS.  I HATE TMZ FOR WHAT THEY ROBBED CLAY AND JAYMES OF AND US.  BUT MOSTLY, I WANT NEWS OF A TOUR OR SOMETHING.  THAT IS ALL.

THE OFC IS A VILE PLACE.  IT IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY PEOPLE POST OVER THERE THAT, I BELIEVE, WE ARE NOT GETTING AND MAY NEVER AGAIN GET, A BLOG.  THE SAD PART IS THAT MOST OF THIS FANDOM ARE GOOD, KIND, LOVING PEOPLE WHO HAVE VARYING OPINIONS AND, IN THE END, ONLY WANT WHAT IS BEST FOR CLAY.

RIGHT NOW, I WOULD LLLLOOOOOVVVVVVEEEEEE TO SEE HIM.  PURELY SHALLOW AND PRURIENT REASONS.  FODDER FOR SMUT IF YOU WILL.  SINCE WE AREN'T GONNA HEAR HIM SING ANY TIME SOON, THEN LET'S LOOK AND DROOL.  WORKS FOR ME.

ON ANOTHER NOTE-----HOW DOES THE TIX THING WORK FOR THE GALA?  IS THERE A WEB SITE WE KNOW OF?  SOMEONE? ANYONE?

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 22, 2008, 05:48:02 AM
THANK YOU GWENN. YOUR POSTS ARE ALWAYS WELL THOUGHT OUT AND WELL WRITTEN. HOW SAD THAT AN OFFICAL FAN SITE COULD GET HIJACKED BY CRAZY AND POSSIBLY "NOT TRUE FANS".


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 22, 2008, 05:58:48 AM
 :wave

Good Morning!

I have not read anything since my one short post yesterday, and see I have missed several pages - will have to catch up later.

Gwenn - I assume the Gala tickets will be sold through the Gala link at TBAF - I'm sure more information will be coming about that later in the week.

Here is the Gala link - as you see (by scrolling down) the tickets go on sale at Noon, Eastern Time, next Monday - July 28:

CHAMPIONS OF CHANGE GALA (http://www.bubelaiken.org/GettingInvolved/ChampionsofChange/tabid/171/Default.aspx)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 22, 2008, 06:53:59 AM
No stress here!  Too busy with happy things in RL to angst over things over which I have absolutely no control.  Life is good....baby or no baby, tickets or no tickets,  tour or no tour, good CD reviews or good CD reviews, catty OCD posters or kind OCD posters...., etc..  I have learned over the past month or so that the only thing that counts is that I make the most of every day I have here on earth.  And I intend to do so with all of my heart and soul, for in the end I am accountable to only one Being.  I have a feeling Clay is on a similar wavelength, as well.

Again, I continue include this in my daily prayers as I ponder my feelings about what has (or hasn't) happened in our Clay world: 

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;  


Hope everybody has a beautiful day!



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 22, 2008, 06:57:45 AM


                                    GWENN, I THINK WE SHARE A BRAIN CAUSE I SAID THE SAME THING YESTERDAY. :roflmao BUT NOBODY EVER READS MY POSTS  :lmao

                                  ANYWAY I MISS HIM.


                           DAUGHTER JUST CALLED HAVING MAJOR CAR PROBLEMS,IT NEVER ENDS. :bang


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 22, 2008, 07:31:25 AM
 :wave

Just caught up!

My thoughts on fan reactions to Jaymes - I think a lot of people think that since she is old enough to be Clay's Mother, and since she has been in the music business for almost as long as he has been alive, that she should have known that this decision could (would) cause controversy and would possibly cause harm to his career.  But what people are not thinking about is that Career is not, and never has been,  Clay's focus in life. Yes, he loves and has fun with his career, but it is not the most important thing in the world to him - fans need to realize that and get over it. Clay is not going to change.  I think if it was a choice of career or child, career would lose in a hearbeat! One thing I do know, after years of working in a womens' clinic - if this baby is Clay's child, Jaymes did not get pregnant without his permission and cooperation. I would love it, too, if this rumour would be found to be untrue. There have been many comments about "tabloids" - but Newsweek and Time have reported the story, too. (Yes I know they are not perfect publications, but they usually do not print stories without checking sources).

Somebody posted this yesterday, and if I am the "Frankie" they were talking about, I don't understand it at all (must not have meant me)
Quote
Switch It ", Change It" Rearrange It"....sounds like this could be FRANKIE'S theme song
I have not changed one bit in my fandom over the years. Clay has brought me right back to Age 16, and it has been so much fun. I have, however, always felt a little left out of the Clay Nation (even left out on this site), because he has just been a small part of my life. I could have traveled more and participated more, but I look back at all of the hard work (husband worked three jobs for years while getting two degrees, and I worked 12 hour days in doctors' offices for years) to give Clay any more of my money than I already have!  :lol :wink

As I have posted several times since the latest Drama began, Clay does not tell me how to live my life, so I have decided to let him run his. I will be here, ticket money in hand!, if he ever decides to Tour again! (Except not this summer - I just want my house put back together right now!  :para )

I love his Snarky little self, and I could  :spank2 (Boca's OCD Paddle) for him not blgging just to say hello, even though he is "taking the summer off".

I am praying (maybe God won't mind that I am bothering him with something so trivial) for all members of this Board who want them to get Gala tickets - and I can't wait for recaps - hope you are all exercising those dialing/typing finders this week!  :stress2

Back to packing things - carpenters have done all they can do in the new part of the house until the electrician shows up tomorrow, and they want to start ripping walls out in the room I am in - have to get the computer covered in plastic!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 22, 2008, 07:48:14 AM
if this baby is Clay's child, Jaymes did not get pregnant without his permission and cooperation.

His permission?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 22, 2008, 08:05:14 AM
I HAVE BEEN STUDYING AND TAKING NOTES ON THIS NEW MATH PROGRAM I AM EVENTUALLY GOING TO HAVE TO FACILITATE.  I AM THRILLED THAT I SEEM TO REALLY LIKE IT.  GETTING TEACHERS ON-BOARD A PROGRAM THAT I THINK IS STUPID WOULD BE DIFFICULT.  I HAD TO DO THAT FOR 4 YEARS BEFORE I RETIRED.  I HAD TO "SELL" THE SINGLE STUPIDEST PROGRAM I HAVE EVER SEEN IN 37 YEARS IN EDUCATION.  THIS ONE LOOKS REALLY GOOD.  I AM GLAD.  FROM WHAT I HAVE LEARNED SO FAR.

FRANKIE--LOTS OF WHAT YOU SAID I AGREE WITH.  I AM HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING YOUR USE OF THE WORD "PERMISSION" IN THIS CASE.   :bduh   :wink

GLORY--I ALWAYS READ YOUR POSTS.  EVERY SINGLE WORD.   :hugg

BACK TO WORK.  I HAVE 3 WEEKS TO KNOW THIS PROGRAM BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS.  BABY STEPS RIGHT NOW.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Moonshot on July 22, 2008, 08:29:58 AM
Somebody posted this yesterday, and if I am the "Frankie" they were talking about, I don't understand it at all (must not have meant me)
Quote
Switch It ", Change It" Rearrange It"....sounds like this could be FRANKIE'S theme song

I don't like to speak for others but I believe it was meant as a reference to your current house remodeling adventure.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on July 22, 2008, 08:54:43 AM
I agree with the whole curiosity thing -- I think that's the only reason many of us are wondering. 

Re "tabloids", it's become something of a catch-all term --  someone here remarked on the ever-increasing tabloid-like nature of the glossies.  Time and Newsweek, I think, referenced the People mag. confirmation from a David foster rep -- which the David Foster rep said was taken out of context. 

Re the age thing, the internet has been busy with stories about older women and younger men -- a combination that is becoming ever more common in thsi culture.  I personally know an active and youthful fifty year-old female pofessional performer, who is on bioidentical hormone replacement therapy, practices yoga, and has always lived a healthy life and had a great attitude and has had a very healthy diet -- she is probably as young in many respects as many women fifteen years her younger, a fact that also reflected in her looks -- she has had no "work" done. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 22, 2008, 09:20:52 AM
Oopsie Marilyn...  :blush ...now I usually get the jokes here...and thank goodness for them! 

A little OT...but I'm ready for hints from you all...I trying to 'declutterize' my place...that's my euphonium for getting rid of accumulated !@#$!@$!  :wink  And...I've got an overflowing basket of 'Clay treasures' if you will.  (In addition to overflowing baskets all over my place of unread magazines, books et al...gosh I wonder what has happended to my reading time...as if you all didn't understand that mystery!   :smile)  Do you display your Clay things...I'm trying to figure what I might do with them...I do know that I'm going to sort through them in this next week or so, and will make a list of items I'm willing to give away to any one here interested in them...

Glory girl  :wave ...I read each and every post of yours with great interest and wish you weren't so far away...we could enjoy coffee and gab...maybe you could move out here?  It's sunny/toasty and we So Cal types are friendly!

Gwenn...so glad you are impressed with the math program...I know that if I had to 'sell' Open Court I'd be in a pile of smelly doo doo..guess I shouldn't get too graphic!  :lol ...but that reading program is just the worst, to me.  My district just selected Harcourt Brace on the basis of the ELL features...which surprised me...instead of how well the concepts are broken down, examples are explicit and yet to find...word problems which actually relate to young peoples' interests (I'm forever making up different ones that will grab their attention...)

And Mimi...rah, rah, Rah...sis boom bah...   :smile ...did you get my PM?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 22, 2008, 09:34:47 AM
JOHANNA---ACTUALLY I AM WORKING FOR HARCOURT.  THIS PROGRAM IS AN UPDATED VERSION OF ONE I TAUGHT FOR YEARS BACK IN THE DAY.  IT WAS MY FAVORITE MATH PROGRAM I EVER TAUGHT.  I USED SOME OF THE MATERIALS TO REENFORCE THE CRAPPY PROGRAM I HAD TO USE AT THE END.  IT TOOK MY ALL MORNING AND LOTS OF STUDYING TO REALIZE WHAT THEY HAD DONE.  I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THE FACT THAT THEY WERE SMART ENOUGH TO RETAIN SOME FEATURES THAT WORKED.  SOMETIMES YOU DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. 

AS FOR DISPLAYING CLAY STUFF---ONLY IN MY OFFICE.  I HAVE THE BEAUTIFUL WORK OF JEANNE FRAMED AND THE LINDA HUBER THAT CLAY SIGNED FOR ME DURING MY M & G.  I HAVE MY M & G PIC AND PASS/TICKET FRAMED AND DISPLAYED.  I HAVE THE SIGNED PLAYBILL FROM SPAMALOT, AND THE PIC THAT MARILYN TOOK WHEN I TOLD HIM MAZEL TOV AND HE SAID THANK YOU.  I ALSO HAVE SOME PIX OF ME WITH MY CLAYFRIENDS FROM VARIOUS CONCERTS/EVENTS.  MOUSE PADS AND CALENDAR COURTESY MICKI.  OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH.  PIX THAT CHRISTIE TOOK BACK IN THE DAY IN PHOTO ALBUMS.  A FEW MAGAZINES  FROM MACK BACK IN THE DAY.  JUST A RELATIVELY SMALL PILE OF THINGS.  I DON'T SAVE PICTURES OF CLAY OR ANYTHING.  HE CHANGES HIS LOOK TOO FAST.  AND I NEVER BOUGHT ALL THE MAGAZINES HE WAS IN BEFORE THE TABLOID CRAP.  NOTHING LIKE THAT.  I ONLY SAVED THINGS THAT WERE MOMENTOS FOR ME.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 22, 2008, 09:37:53 AM
FROM THE CH.  VERY CUTE.  I LOVE JK.

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A couple of new(ish) pictures of Jimmy Kimmel wearing the JBT hat from back in May of this year:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/193/505300887_cb4212798e.jpg?v=0
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/224/505142034_341ff111eb.jpg?v=0

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 22, 2008, 10:36:36 AM
:wave

Just caught up!

My thoughts on fan reactions to Jaymes - I think a lot of people think that since she is old enough to be Clay's Mother, and since she has been in the music business for almost as long as he has been alive, that she should have known that this decision could (would) cause controversy and would possibly cause harm to his career.  But what people are not thinking about is that Career is not, and never has been,  Clay's focus in life. Yes, he loves and has fun with his career, but it is not the most important thing in the world to him - fans need to realize that and get over it. Clay is not going to change.  I think if it was a choice of career or child, career would lose in a hearbeat! One thing I do know, after years of working in a womens' clinic - if this baby is Clay's child, Jaymes did not get pregnant without his permission and cooperation.

I agree...and remember Clay is STUBBORN!  :wink So we don't know the whole story, and probably never will. It's possible that HE decided to go through with all of this no matter what anyone said. JMHO

Meanwhile, I know people who have had to go the route Jaymes went through. i almost did that too, but after 2 miscarriages (I was also an...er, older mommy...I had my daughter without all that. But it's a medical option many women have had to use.
All of this is JMHO

Shelley aka "lulu asset" as Marilyn calls me!  :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 22, 2008, 11:14:25 AM
Thanks for the Clay treasures feedback Gwenn...it gave me some ideas...I've got pins and tour books that I'll keep...maybe buy a small cabinet to display them...keep them handy... and your info re Harcourt encourages me...I'm much more hopeful about it now... CA adopted exceptionally rigorous math standards...good teaching tools will make the job much easier...and will help me help parents who wish to assist on the home front.

I agree luluasst ...Clay is stubborn to the max...and that trait has surely helped buck the garbage tossed his way IMO ...if Jaymes is NC with him, I hope the temps are more moderate than last summer when I was there...or maybe she's adapted by now...  :smile  I do hope they are resting up and relaxing before 'labor day'...  :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Jan on July 22, 2008, 11:19:46 AM
Just a quickie from your MIA person, JAN /Jeanne

I was thinking (yes, I was) that Clay has sooo much on his plate now and with the run of Spamalot, the baby, the paper mongers, his future, etc. I do not expect him to Blog.

 I think that would be way down on his priority list. And I can certainly understand it!!!!
I just want him to be happy. When I see the expression on his face when holding a baby , it just gives me goose bumps.

Have been MIA. Ever since the magazine had a picture and article of one of my Sunhat paintings. I never knew people were that interested. I am working on a commission now, someone mailed me their photo. Then said just to paint a Sunhat on her.
 And I am working on a wedding portrait now.
 I will be saying a lot of bad words with this one.  :cuss
I never did like to paint men (with one exception) besides, they are not pretty and do not look good with sunhats on their heads :lmao :lmao

I am here in spirit, read CM every day, just toooooo busy to reply, or is that lazy??????
And yes, Glory, I read ALL of your posts.

Talk to you later.

THEA and Frankie and all  :wave :wave :hugg

JAN/JEANNE


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 22, 2008, 11:45:32 AM
JOHANNA--HARCOURT HAS 4 DIFFERENT MATH PROGRAMS SINCE THEY MERGED WITH HOUGHTON-MIFFLIN, HOLT, AND MC DOUGLALL.  BUT I AM ALWAY WILLING TO GIVE A FRIEND SOME SUGGESTIONS.  JUST ASK.  I AM LEARNING THE HSP MATH BASAL TYPE PROGRAM.  I LIKE WHAT I SEE SO FAR.

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When I see the expression on his face when holding a baby , it just gives me goose bumps.

TOTALLY AGREE.  THE FIELD NOTES PIC OF HIM WITH THE BABY IS MY DESKTOP.  IT MAKES ME KVELL WHENEVER I LOOK AT IT..  (FEEL PRIDE)

GWENN


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Post by: GWENN on July 22, 2008, 12:48:54 PM
LAST FIELD NOTES BLOG.  DIDN'T KNOW HE WENT TO KENYA ALSO.

GWENN

http://fieldnotes.unicefusa.org/2008/07/clay_aiken_calls_for_kenyas_ki_1.html


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Post by: Sundancer on July 22, 2008, 12:57:12 PM
Thanks for bringing that, Gwenn!

I wonder what the kids are taught in those schools. I hope I say this right, so as not to come across sounding like an ethnocentric idiot. I would think they're taught how to read... how to write... basic math... but what do children in such circumstances need to know the most, and most immediately?


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Post by: GWENN on July 22, 2008, 01:07:38 PM
Thanks for bringing that, Gwenn!

I wonder what the kids are taught in those schools. I hope I say this right, so as not to come across sounding like an ethnocentric idiot. I would think they're taught how to read... how to write... basic math... but what do children in such circumstances need to know the most, and most immediately?

THE BASIS OF ALL LEARNING IS HOW TO READ.  EVERYTHING FOLLOWS FROM THAT.  I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE BASICS OF HYGIENE ARE ALSO TAUGHT.  I AM THINKING YOU CAN TEACH THAT THROUGH READING.  I WOULD BET THE BASICS OF MATH ARE PART OF THE CULTURE.  NOT THE WRITTEN PART BUT A LOT OF STUFF IS USED IN EVERYDAY LIVING LIKE COOKING, MAKING CLOTHING, ETC. 

GOOD QUESTION, SUNNY.

GWENN


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Post by: Sundancer on July 22, 2008, 01:09:54 PM
THE BASIS OF ALL LEARNING IS HOW TO READ.  EVERYTHING FOLLOWS FROM THAT.  I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE BASICS OF HYGIENE ARE ALSO TAUGHT.  I AM THINKING YOU CAN TEACH THAT THROUGH READING.  I WOULD BET THE BASICS OF MATH ARE PART OF THE CULTURE.  NOT THE WRITTEN PART BUT A LOT OF STUFF IS USED IN EVERYDAY LIVING LIKE COOKING, MAKING CLOTHING, ETC. 

Thanks, Gwenn. I love that you're still a teacher. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 22, 2008, 01:33:57 PM
 
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Iwonder what the kids are taught in those schools. I hope I say this right, so as not to come across sounding like an ethnocentric idiot. I would think they're taught how to read... how to write... basic math... but what do children in such circumstances need to know the most, and most immediately?


I 've often wondered about that myself, SUNNY.  I think GWENN hit the nail on the head about learning to read and write, incorporating the basic of good hygiene, etc.  into these lessons.  Definitely other life skills could be integrated into a basic math curriculum, as well.

However, I would hope they would also include music and art in the curriculum. Even these children who have so little have a need for a positive form of self-expression in the midst of the hell they endure every day. 

Speaking of using art as a form of self-expression, it's so great to see you posting today, dear JEANNE/a.k.a. "My Soul Sistah".   :hugg :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayHeart on July 22, 2008, 01:50:51 PM
Hello everyone,

I really agree that the stubborn part of Clay will be doing what he wants to do, and will blow off the negative tabloids and the negative posters on the OFC.  This is almost the only site I visit, except when someone here links to another site.  In general, most people here realize Clay is going to live HIS life the way he sees fit, without suggestions from people who don't know him personally.  As one poster said, she lives her life without asking for direction from Clay, and he'll do the same!!  That said, gosh, we did get spoiled with having a lot of him for several months, and now the quiet time.  I guess we'll just have to be patient.   :bigsmile

Have a great evening.
Debbie


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Post by: GWENN on July 22, 2008, 01:51:29 PM
THEA--I WOULD BET THAT MUSIC AND ART ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THEIR CULTURE.  FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN OF AFRICAN LIFE, THE ARTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM.

I BET CLAY BROUGHT BACK SOME INTERESTING STUFF FROM BOTH COUNTRIES TO ADD TO HIS AFRICA ROOM.

I JUST HAD A DEJA VU MOMENT.  THE LITTLE BOY NEXT TO CLAY IS WEARING A NAVY BLUE SHIRT.  THE KID LOOKS LIKE SO MANY KIDS FROM MY OLD SCHOOL WHERE THE "UNIFORM" WAS A NAVY TOP AND KHAKI BOTTOMS.  SCARY.

GWENN


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Post by: claydevotee on July 22, 2008, 02:08:09 PM
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THEA--I WOULD BET THAT MUSIC AND ART ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THEIR CULTURE.  FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN OF AFRICAN LIFE, THE ARTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM.

Absolutely, they are!   If I were younger and healthier, I would love to serve as humanitarian missionary  in one of those places and teach them how to play the piano on one of those little keyboards.  Music instruction enhances the brain development in small children, especially. 

I actually do have a cousin by marriage who just retired as a Choral Director at Mt. Holyoake College in MA.  She has spent much of her career going to remote parts of Africa to start up choirs.  She trains them and then has taken them on tours throughout Africa, Asia and Europe.  Of course, I'm not sure she has gone into the disaster areas where UNICEF works.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 22, 2008, 02:13:14 PM
THEA--VERY INTERESTING.  THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO DO REMARKABLE THINGS IN THEIR LIVES.  ER HAD A FRIEND WHO SHE WENT THROUGH SCHOOL WITH---PRE K AND ON WHO DECIDED TO JOIN THE PEACE CORPS AND GO OFF TO AFRICA.  NOT SURE WHERE.  SHOCKED HIS PARENTS TO DEATH.  HE HAD SEEMED LIKE SUCH A "PRINCE."  YOU NEVER KNOW ABOUT PEOPLE.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 22, 2008, 02:18:14 PM


Jaymes use to blog under the name CLAYANDR and that was who was on the site last night.

luluasst -- (hard to believe you're a "newbie," although I know that that is only in relation to this site -- and also thought I'd mention that this reads as "lulu asset") --

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 :wink Thanks Marilyn. I know "newbie" sounds funny since I've been a fan since day one BUT didn''t tell anyone for years! Maybe it's age, but now I don;t care who knows!  :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 22, 2008, 03:48:28 PM
 :wave

No time to read back, but I have a Gala update from Shirl - the ballroom where the Gala is to be held holds 600 people. She just spoke to the Marriott again, and has her confirmation number. (Now all she needs is a ticket to the Gala).


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 22, 2008, 03:58:10 PM
:wave

No time to read back, but I have a Gala update from Shirl - the ballroom where the Gala is to be held holds 600 people. She just spoke to the Marriott again, and has her confirmation number. (Now all she needs is a ticket to the Gala).

Wish I could go! I'm on the other side of the country in So Cal. Sounds like it will be fun.


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Post by: claydevotee on July 22, 2008, 04:46:18 PM
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THEA--VERY INTERESTING.  THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO DO REMARKABLE THINGS IN THEIR LIVES.  ER HAD A FRIEND WHO SHE WENT THROUGH SCHOOL WITH---PRE K AND ON WHO DECIDED TO JOIN THE PEACE CORPS AND GO OFF TO AFRICA.  NOT SURE WHERE.  SHOCKED HIS PARENTS TO DEATH.  HE HAD SEEMED LIKE SUCH A "PRINCE."  YOU NEVER KNOW ABOUT PEOPLE.

Oy, the first time we exchanged Christmas cards with these cousins it was rather intimidating.  We received a 2-page letter with photos recounting the entire  family's adventures in touring with the African choral groups throughout Europe, Asia and Africa.  We had already sent them a letter with details of my son's shoulder surgery and another's problems with asthma.  :para  And also that we had vacationed in Disney World that summer and that my favorite ride was The Teacups!  :lol Oy, talk about humbling.   :lol

Clay content...I wonder if Clay sends Christmas cards?  And if he includes pictures from his trekking.?  I'm sure he doesn't send pictures of the typical front row of crazy ladies at his concerts.   :eek


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 22, 2008, 05:16:27 PM


Jaymes use to blog under the name CLAYANDR and that was who was on the site last night.

luluasst -- (hard to believe you're a "newbie," although I know that that is only in relation to this site -- and also thought I'd mention that this reads as "lulu asset") --


 :wink Thanks Marilyn. I know "newbie" sounds funny since I've been a fan since day one BUT didn''t tell anyone for years! Maybe it's age, but now I don;t care who knows!  :roflmao
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That wasn't me posting sweetie-I didnt go back but I think it might have been mainer???


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Petjen on July 22, 2008, 05:23:46 PM
Have people started receiving their tickets for the Gala?   


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Post by: GWENN on July 22, 2008, 05:24:30 PM
Have people started receiving their tickets for the Gala?   

YOU CAN'T BUY THEM UNTIL MONDAY.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Petjen on July 22, 2008, 05:26:49 PM
Have people started receiving their tickets for the Gala?   

YOU CAN'T BUY THEM UNTIL MONDAY.

GWENN

Thanks Gwenn.  I would have eventually figured that out.     :bduh


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 22, 2008, 05:56:35 PM
Frankie  Yesterday when I was posting I indeed was refering to your current house remodeling.  Now does it make more sense..."Switch it .Change it,Rearrange it" .


 :yay    Rebecca today decided she HATED cheerleading camp (not as much as me) so she refused to go back today,...No more cheerleading camp  :cry    NOT!! :bouncy


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 22, 2008, 06:20:51 PM
OK, I AM WATCHING CLACK FROM LAST SUMMER, THANK YOU JILL.  THIS MAN IS FUNNY, I TELL YOU.  FUNNY.  CHUNKY, BUT FUNNY.  GOD, I WISH WE WERE SEEING HIM NOW.

GWENN


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Post by: Sundancer on July 22, 2008, 06:22:46 PM
Gwenn,

You've got it bad. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 22, 2008, 06:34:22 PM



                              GWENN I BEEN WATCHING LAST SUMMER TO AND CHRISTMAS 2006. HE WAS SO FUNNY, I LOVE HIM

                                    SUNNY DON'T YOU WATCH CLACK . :roflmao

                     NEVER THOUGHT IN A MILLION YEARS THERE WOULD BE A WORD LIKE CLACK IN MY VOCABULARY. :roflmao :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 22, 2008, 06:37:49 PM

                                    SUNNY DON'T YOU WATCH CLACK . :roflmao

Not too often, no.



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                     NEVER THOUGHT IN A MILLION YEARS THERE WOULD BE A WORD LIKE CLACK IN MY VOCABULARY. :roflmao :lmao

         :lol :yeahthat


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Post by: claydevotee on July 22, 2008, 06:59:29 PM
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NEVER THOUGHT IN A MILLION YEARS THERE WOULD BE A WORD LIKE CLACK IN MY VOCABULARY. 


GLORY, it's quite frightening, isn't it?  :para : :lmao  BTW, I love your posts, too.  :hugg You are the hot  sauce on our burritos.  (I couldn't think of anything much better than that...sorry!   :roflmao) 


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Post by: Sundancer on July 22, 2008, 07:06:44 PM
GLORY, it's quite frightening, isn't it?  :para : :lmao  BTW, I love your posts, too.  :hugg You are the hot  sauce on our burritos.  

Ole', Glory. :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 22, 2008, 07:08:18 PM
Frankie  Yesterday when I was posting I indeed was refering to your current house remodeling.  Now does it make more sense..."Switch it .Change it,Rearrange it" .


 :yay    Rebecca today decided she HATED cheerleading camp (not as much as me) so she refused to go back today,...No more cheerleading camp  :cry    NOT!! :bouncy

You are too funny, Mimi!   :lmao  I've sent you a PM!  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 22, 2008, 07:09:31 PM


Jaymes use to blog under the name CLAYANDR and that was who was on the site last night.

luluasst -- (hard to believe you're a "newbie," although I know that that is only in relation to this site -- and also thought I'd mention that this reads as "lulu asset") --


OOPS  :para It was Mainer.

 :wink Thanks Marilyn. I know "newbie" sounds funny since I've been a fan since day one BUT didn''t tell anyone for years! Maybe it's age, but now I don;t care who knows!  :roflmao

That wasn't me posting sweetie-I didnt go back but I think it might have been mainer???
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Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 22, 2008, 07:11:47 PM
Sorry for the last post - what a mess I made!  :naughty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 22, 2008, 07:37:55 PM
I DON'T WATCH CLACK OFTEN.  I REALLY DON'T.  BUT I FELT LIKE WATCHING SOMETHING AND TV HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO WATCH.  HOW CAN I HAVE HUNDREDS OF CHANNELS AND NOTHING TO WATCH?  SO, I LOOKED AT MY DVD'S AND GRABBED A SERIES THAT JILL MADE OF BANTER FROM LAST SUMMER.  NO SINGING, JUST BANTER.  WELL, THE MAN IS FUNNY.  HE JUST IS.  AND HE WAS CHUNKY.  DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT THEN, BUT AFTER HOW BUFF HE GOT DOING SPAMALOT, WELL, HE LOOKED CHUNKY.  I COULDN'T BELIEVE I WAS LAUGHING OUT LOUD.  NO ONE IN THE ROOM, JUST ME.  IT FELT GOOD.

MARLENE--I REMEMBER WHEN ER WAS IN COMPETITIVE GYMNASTICS.   :bang :bang :bang  WE WOULD HEAR THE SAME SONG 56 TIMES AS EACH GIRL DID THE SAME FLOOR ROUTINE TO THE SAME MUSIC. WEEK AFTER WEEK FOR MONTHS.:bang :bang :bang  THEN SHE BECAME A VARSITY CHEERLEADER.  HAD TO GO TO A CAMP TO DO  I DON'T KNOW WHAT.  SAME CRAP WHEN THEY COMPETED.  OMG, WHAT WE DO FOR OUR KIDS.

YET I CAN LISTEN TO CLAY DO THE SAME CORNY JOKES OVER AND OVER AND LAUGH EACH TIME.  WHAT IS UP WITH THAT? :bduh :bduh :bduh

YES, SUNNY, SOMETIMES I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT I'VE GOT IT BAD. 

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 22, 2008, 07:41:43 PM


MARLENE--I REMEMBER WHEN ER WAS IN COMPETITIVE GYMNASTICS.   :bang :bang :bang  WE WOULD HEAR THE SAME SONG 56 TIMES AS EACH GIRL DID THE SAME FLOOR ROUTINE TO THE SAME MUSIC. WEEK AFTER WEEK FOR MONTHS.:bang :bang :bang  THEN SHE BECAME A VARSITY CHEERLEADER.  HAD TO GO TO A CAMP TO DO  I DON'T KNOW WHAT.  SAME CRAP WHEN THEY COMPETED.  OMG, WHAT WE DO FOR OUR KIDS.

GWENN

I so relate Gwenn and Marlene.  :wink When my kid was in marching band, it was the same song for 4 months. We were all sick of it --- until they won the gold medal.  :ghug2  Then we replayed the DVD over and over and over!  :para

Just like playing Clay... over and over! So the mania continues!
Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 22, 2008, 07:56:24 PM


MARLENE--I REMEMBER WHEN ER WAS IN COMPETITIVE GYMNASTICS.   :bang :bang :bang  WE WOULD HEAR THE SAME SONG 56 TIMES AS EACH GIRL DID THE SAME FLOOR ROUTINE TO THE SAME MUSIC. WEEK AFTER WEEK FOR MONTHS.:bang :bang :bang  THEN SHE BECAME A VARSITY CHEERLEADER.  HAD TO GO TO A CAMP TO DO  I DON'T KNOW WHAT.  SAME CRAP WHEN THEY COMPETED.  OMG, WHAT WE DO FOR OUR KIDS.

GWENN

I so relate Gwenn and Marlene.  :wink When my kid was in marching band, it was the same song for 4 months. We were all sick of it --- until they won the gold medal.  :ghug2  Then we replayed the DVD over and over and over!  :para

Just like playing Clay... over and over! So the mania continues!
Shelley

This all sounds pretty exciting compared to all of the Scholastic Bowl and Math Team tournaments Phil and I had to sit through !  :hypno


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 22, 2008, 08:16:20 PM


                               I WAS IN THE PIZZA BOWL ONCE :roflmao :roflmao


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Post by: mimi on July 22, 2008, 08:23:41 PM
Glory~ I ADORE YOU!   :flower  You always put a smile on my face.


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Post by: mimi2 on July 22, 2008, 08:24:50 PM
JUST CATCHING UP ON BACK PAGES.  I'VE DECIDED I LIKE CLAY SKINNY, CHUNKY AND IN BETWEEN.  SNARKY, SWEET, FUNNY, AND WEEPY!!!  I LOVE IT ALL!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 22, 2008, 08:36:28 PM
JUST CATCHING UP ON BACK PAGES.  I'VE DECIDED I LIKE CLAY SKINNY, CHUNKY AND IN BETWEEN.  SNARKY, SWEET, FUNNY, AND WEEPY!!!  I LOVE IT ALL!


I say yeah to that! :cheer


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 22, 2008, 08:41:03 PM
Shelley~ Is that a CHEERLEADER I SEE? Where's my gun!


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Post by: clayharmony on July 22, 2008, 08:52:56 PM
Shelley~ Is that a CHEERLEADER I SEE? Where's my gun!

 :lmao  :roflmao  :wave


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 22, 2008, 08:58:48 PM
Shelley~ Is that a CHEERLEADER I SEE? Where's my gun!


MY BAD!!!!!! :bang :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 22, 2008, 09:00:42 PM
Shelley~ Is that a CHEERLEADER I SEE? Where's my gun!


Calm down - your birthday is coming up. Don't you want to party?  :hb1


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 23, 2008, 03:21:13 AM
Oh, I don't know.....I think Clay looked pretty dang good last summer!  I don't see any "chunk" here.


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/lovinclay/HolyCrapClaySkin.jpg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 23, 2008, 04:58:27 AM
Oh, I don't know.....I think Clay looked pretty dang good last summer!  I don't see any "chunk" here.


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/lovinclay/HolyCrapClaySkin.jpg

Those jeans were ridin' a little low. Someday, that man's gonna reveal more than he meant to. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 23, 2008, 05:18:32 AM
Oh, I don't know.....I think Clay looked pretty dang good last summer!  I don't see any "chunk" here.


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/lovinclay/HolyCrapClaySkin.jpg

Those jeans were ridin' a little low. Someday, that man's gonna reveal more than he meant to. :lol

 :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 23, 2008, 05:38:26 AM
                             THEN WE WOULD GET THE SUN AND THE MOON :bigsmile :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 23, 2008, 05:39:23 AM
Oh, I don't know.....I think Clay looked pretty dang good last summer!  I don't see any "chunk" here.


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/lovinclay/HolyCrapClaySkin.jpg

Those jeans were ridin' a little low. Someday, that man's gonna reveal more than he meant to. :lol

One can only hope............... :bigsmile

Glory- more than that!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on July 23, 2008, 06:03:12 AM
I always enjoy everyone's posts -- often don't reply when I agree or think "good point" -- re whoever said no one reads her posts -- I'm sure everyone does and appreciates them.

luluasst -- I'm flattered to be confused with marilyn.

whoever asked about the use of "tabloids" -- think many of us use the term for tabloid journalsim -- much of which is online and not  in print -- like TMZ etc.

and just remembered that one of the truest things posted here since sometime in June was when someone mentioned that if it were an older man and a younger woman no one would give a thought to age difference.



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 23, 2008, 06:13:15 AM
LOVINGCLAY - THANK YOU FOR THAT PIC....I SEE...SKIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 23, 2008, 06:17:42 AM
Oh, I don't know.....I think Clay looked pretty dang good last summer!  I don't see any "chunk" here.


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/lovinclay/HolyCrapClaySkin.jpg

Those jeans were ridin' a little low. Someday, that man's gonna reveal more than he meant to. :lol

One can only hope............... :bigsmile

Glory- more than that!!

MY FEELINGS EXACTLY.   :thud :thud :thud

MICKI--OH, HE LOOKED JUST FINE LAST SUMMER, BUT HE IS LOOKING EVEN BETTER SINCE THE WEIGHT LOSS.  MOSTLY I NOTICE IT IN HIS FACE.  BUT I AM NOT PICKY AND I WOULD LOOK AT HIM LIVE ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM. :bigsmile

MORNING. :wave

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 23, 2008, 06:24:02 AM



                               LET THE SMUT BEGIN :roflmao

                                          I HATE COMCAST.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 23, 2008, 06:27:29 AM
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LET THE SMUT BEGIN

                                          I HATE COMCAST.

GLORY, is there any connection between "smut" and "comcast".  Just wonderin.... :scratch  :lol

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MICKI--OH, HE LOOKED JUST FINE LAST SUMMER, BUT HE IS LOOKING EVEN BETTER SINCE THE WEIGHT LOSS.  MOSTLY I NOTICE IT IN HIS FACE.  BUT I AM NOT PICKY AND I WOULD LOOK AT HIM LIVE ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

GWENN, I'm not picky at this point either.  If Clay were to re-emerge looking like Elvis in his last days, I'd still be very happy and titillated to see him do his stuff on stage once again.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 23, 2008, 06:29:29 AM
 :wave to LULAST and MIMI2.  I have not "formally" welcomed you to Critical Mass.  So here's your official welcome!  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 23, 2008, 06:29:36 AM
JUST SAW THIS AT CH VIA KIPPER'S BLOG.  INTERESTING.  I ONLY BROUGHT OVER THE PART ABOUT CLAY.  HE SEES THE CD AS A HUGE SUCCESS? :bduh

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17 July 2008 What’s Going On

I have been very busy with an exciting variety of projects. I finished Clay Aikens album “On My Way Here” in April and we enjoyed huge success with the album peaking at No 4 in the US Billboard charts. I also wrote the song “You’re Everything I Don’t Need” with Judie Tzuke and James Morrison which is a stand out track on the album, check it out on iTunes.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 23, 2008, 06:39:13 AM
JUST SAW THIS AT CH VIA KIPPER'S BLOG.  INTERESTING.  I ONLY BROUGHT OVER THE PART ABOUT CLAY.  HE SEES THE CD AS A HUGE SUCCESS? :bduh

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17 July 2008 What’s Going On

I have been very busy with an exciting variety of projects. I finished Clay Aikens album “On My Way Here” in April and we enjoyed huge success with the album peaking at No 4 in the US Billboard charts. I also wrote the song “You’re Everything I Don’t Need” with Judie Tzuke and James Morrison which is a stand out track on the album, check it out on iTunes.

GWENN

Hmmmm, am I reading too much into this or are they getting ready to release "Everything I Don't Need" as a single????


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 23, 2008, 06:48:46 AM
I DON'T THINK SO, THEA.  I THINK KIPPER IS BLOWING HIS OWN HORN SO TO SPEAK.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 23, 2008, 06:58:16 AM



                                   THEA NO CONNECTION THEY SWITCHED TO COMCAST FROM INSIGHT AND ALL MY COMPUTER CONNECTION GO TOGETHER SO WHEN MY PHONE GOES OUT MY COMPUTER DOES TO, AS EVIDENCED THIS MORNING  :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 23, 2008, 07:11:30 AM
Remember that Olympic montage to On My Way Here by Suerue I posted a few days ago?  Well, the co-writer of the song both saw it and left comments.  They've also put it on their myspace pages!   :purpbana :purpbana  Please give it hits, put it on your myspace page and link it to your blogs if you have one.  The more this is seen, the better the chances of somone from the Olympic committee seeing it.  John McCain saw the one she did to Something About Us showing the Obama love.  I think he liked it.  I'll try and find the link and post it later.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 23, 2008, 07:40:19 AM
Here's the McCain link.

http://www.breakingnewsus.com/news/obama-love-100661.html


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claymate27 on July 23, 2008, 07:43:21 AM
 :waveHappy Hump Day........ :hypno


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 23, 2008, 08:07:25 AM
 :wave

mimi - now I do understand your post   :lol - if anyone else has ever lived in a house while it was being rebuilt around them, I feel your pain!  Things are so bad at the house today that I am hiding at the office.

luluast - Shirl (Clay Obsessed) is in southern Claifornia, too, but she is going to go to the Gala in Raleigh if she can get a ticket!

I did post for Shirl that the ball room holds 600 people - but I forgot to mention that the person at the Marriott said that TBAF had only requested seating for 450!  :bduh They are out of their minds! Fans are so desperate to see Clay that I am sure they will have to add the other 150 seats!  The Marriott person did not know how many tickets have already been sold through sales of tables, as opposed to individual seats (Tables have been on sale for several weeks). Surely they will add the extra seats since all of the money goes to TBAF.

And I agree that the Clay/Jaymes age difference would have been looked at differently if she wasn't the older of the two. Mary Tyler Moore and Susan Sarandon (and many others) have been married to much younger men, very happily, for years. I just wish I could figure out why the media always seems to want to go after Clay  :bduh

How great that we got another Field Notes, and that Clay visited a second country on his trip  :clap As usual, something happened when I had no computer!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 23, 2008, 08:29:08 AM
If Clay and Jaymes were married or a couple (who knows, maybe they are), I don't think it would be looked at any differently than Ashton and Demi or others in the same situation.  I think it's the "friends" issue.  Not many people have children with their friends.  But, it may work for them.  I hope it does. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 23, 2008, 08:33:44 AM
:wave to LULAST and MIMI2.  I have not "formally" welcomed you to Critical Mass.  So here's your official welcome!  :hugg


 :wave  Thanks! I've been enjoying being a part of it all. As I wrote before, I was a Clay fan on day one, and in fact was a fan of AI on day one (not so much now, but I digress). Had a M & G with all the AI1 idols when they did their first tour....long story.

Anywhoo...here I am! :purpbana

Luluasst


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 23, 2008, 08:37:38 AM


luluast - Shirl (Clay Obsessed) is in southern Claifornia, too, but she is going to go to the Gala in Raleigh if she can get a ticket!


Awesome! I have too much going on then to go but would love  :heart to meet Shirl and everyone. It will still happen int he future I'm sure.



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 23, 2008, 08:39:45 AM
If Clay and Jaymes were married or a couple (who knows, maybe they are), I don't think it would be looked at any differently than Ashton and Demi or others in the same situation.  I think it's the "friends" issue.  Not many people have children with their friends.  But, it may work for them.  I hope it does. 


ITT I agree totally with you. I remember the shock when Ashton was involved with Demi and now noone even thinks twice about that relationship.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 23, 2008, 08:40:56 AM
 :wave See you gals later...off to work and appointments. Have a great day!

Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 23, 2008, 09:22:18 AM
450 PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!  ARE THEY NUTS???????  WITH NO CLAY FOR GOD KNOWS HOW LONG. :bduh :bduh :bduh :bduh :bduh :bduh  AND FOR CHARITY NO LESS.  SOMEONE SOMEWHERE IS NOT PLANNING TOO WELL.  WOW.

GWENN

:stress :stress2


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 23, 2008, 10:19:55 AM

Anywhoo...here I am! :purpbana

Luluasst

And we're glad of it!  :wave  Also glad to hear of another Claymaniac out here... Shirl/Clay Obssessed. (I'm near Pasadena...wonder if either of you are nearby?)  Perhaps we So Cal Claymaniacs could go for coffee...or learn Gwenn's game mah jong...or however it is spelled...while sharing the Clay love!  :lol

For those this interests...I was just conversing with my psychic friend again prior to posting...she continues to see lots of changes for him...and mentioned that we should know before too long...sees it as some really good movement... one date she shared...September 18 or so... It all sounds GOOD to me!

Gwenn...once again, I so agree with you...why not make the Gala's a larger event...really, the willingness to fly into NC and support it is there...I am hopeful that this next one will satisfy the learning curve and all future Gala's...at least those in NC...will be planned accordingly.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 23, 2008, 10:24:09 AM
I did post for Shirl that the ball room holds 600 people - but I forgot to mention that the person at the Marriott said that TBAF had only requested seating for 450!  :bduh They are out of their minds! Fans are so desperate to see Clay that I am sure they will have to add the other 150 seats!

But the gala is not supposed to be an event for fans. It's meant to get corporate sponsorship for the BAF. :shrug


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 23, 2008, 10:27:06 AM
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450 PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!  ARE THEY NUTS???????  WITH NO CLAY FOR GOD KNOWS HOW LONG.        AND FOR CHARITY NO LESS.  SOMEONE SOMEWHERE IS NOT PLANNING TOO WELL.  WOW.
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Gwenn...once again, I so agree with you...why not make the Gala's a larger event...really, the willingness to fly into NC and support it is there...I am hopeful that this next one will satisfy the learning curve and all future Gala's...at least those in NC...will be planned accordingly.  
 


I have a bad feeling there are going to be an awful lot of disappointed and angry women on Gala Ticket Frenzy Day.  I'm relieved to not have to deal with that this time around, although I would absolutely love to attend the Gala.

Off to the DMV to get my license renewed.  I hope they don't make me do a driving skills test.  Oy, at the ripe old age of 56 I have yet to learn how to parallel park correctly.  :para  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 23, 2008, 10:28:58 AM
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But the gala is not supposed to be an event for fans. It's meant to get corporate sponsorship for the BAF.


Prepare for angry PM's from angry people from other Boards, SUNNY!  How dare you rain on their parade!  :lmao

EDIT  :  I've used the word "angry" three times in 2 posts, but really I'm not feeling "angry" today.  Just thought I'd share!!!  :bduh


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 23, 2008, 10:45:15 AM
I did post for Shirl that the ball room holds 600 people - but I forgot to mention that the person at the Marriott said that TBAF had only requested seating for 450!  :bduh They are out of their minds! Fans are so desperate to see Clay that I am sure they will have to add the other 150 seats!

But the gala is not supposed to be an event for fans. It's meant to get corporate sponsorship for the BAF. :shrug

That's true isn't it, Sunny...I wonder if removing individual sponsorships would make that point, then?   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 23, 2008, 10:57:04 AM
I did post for Shirl that the ball room holds 600 people - but I forgot to mention that the person at the Marriott said that TBAF had only requested seating for 450!  :bduh They are out of their minds! Fans are so desperate to see Clay that I am sure they will have to add the other 150 seats!

But the gala is not supposed to be an event for fans. It's meant to get corporate sponsorship for the BAF. :shrug

THIS IS TRUE, BUT MANY OF US CONTINUALLY SUPPORT THE BAF AND WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND.  NO, IT ISN'T ABOUT CLAY, BUT LOTS OF FANS GIVE LOTS OF MONEY AND TIME.  LOOK AT MEESSA.  IF YOU ARE ASKING FOR SUPPORT THEN ACCEPT THE DONATIONS OF PEOPLE WHO CARE. 

I REMEMBER AT THE GOLFING FOR INCLUSION IN JANUARY, FOLKS TOLD CLAY 'S UNCLE THAT FANS DIDN'T GO BECAUSE THEY FELT THEY WERE NOT INVITED.  THE RESPONSE WAS THAT THEY DIDN'T MEAN IT THAT WAY AT ALL.  SO, THERE WASN'T AS BIG A TURNOUT AS COULD HAVE BEEN.

AT $250 A TICKET, A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY COULD BE RAISED FOR THE BAF BY ADDING SOME MORE SEATS IF THE BALLROOM CAN HOLD 600.  $37,500 ISN'T CHUMP CHANGE JUST BY ALLOWING FOR THE EXTRA 150 SEATS.  THAT IS ALMOST 4 CAMPS.

THE FANS HELPED START THE BAF. I SEE NO REASON TO BE EXCLUDED FROM AN EVENT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayHeart on July 23, 2008, 11:06:03 AM
Loved the Olympic montage, love the postings here too.  Isn't it nice to have a place where everyone can safely get their feelings out... from  :purpbana  to  :bang to  :blush, occasional  :thud  's and everything in between.  I think Clay will be fine.  He's make the decisions that are best for him.

We can only speculate because we don't have the inside information of his personal life, as it should be.  Meeting all the wonderful and talented people here has been a real bonus.  I've laughed and even worried a bit along with others here, but it's always been great.  Bye for now... work is calling to me!!

Debbie


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 23, 2008, 11:09:44 AM


                         I KNOW NOTHING. :bduh


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 23, 2008, 11:58:47 AM
It does seem that BAF could well benefit by expanding their annual fundraiser events...the Gala and the Golfing...so there is sufficient space for fans wishing to support them... in this economy, particularly...indeed, almost $40,000 isn't 'small potatoes'...and if they put on at least one event closer to the west, each year they'd double what is collected, I do believe.   Good luck to everyone here who hopes to go.  I've decided to pass...at least on trying to get a ticket directly...now if someone should have an extra one...I might be persuaded to reconsider...yeah, like in a heart beat...  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 23, 2008, 12:16:58 PM
 :wave

Just to let everyone know that I just spoke to Woody on the phone - she is spending the summer with Randy at their new house, and their old house was struck by lightening, so even on the few days when they go home to try to get the house ready for sale, she hasn't been able to get on - she just said to tell everyone that she misses you, and she will be back as soon as possible!

TBAF - I know a fan who has gone to the Gala every year (not a member of this Board), but she is also a Special Education teacher with great concern for the children she teaches. I know the Gala is not for "just fans", but so many Clay fans work behind the scenes for disabled children - and they have been doing so even before Clay was born!  :wink I do so hope that everyone will get a ticket. Maybe they based that request on the number of table tickets sold - but they should not have been able to tell the response from that - the table tickets were priced for businesses, and were expensive.

luluasst and Johanna - Shirl is in San Jose - and she attends a Clay Fan meeting in Union City monthly. I hope you both get to meet her some day - she is a special person. She is such a kind, caring Clay fan. When she called about being unable to find a On My Way Here poster from KMart,  she kept getting referred to different people. As it turned out, each person she talked to ended up sending her posters - I think she ended up with 14!  :lmao  (She called me laughing almost every day - for a while there she was getting a daily package). She donated them to her local fan club for future projects to benefit TBAF.

I forgot to mention this morning that I hope our Texas members are safe from the Hurricane - I know that Houston is on the heavy rain side of the storm, and Houston floods. dudley - hope you are safe and dry  :hugg



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 23, 2008, 12:27:28 PM
TBAF - I know a fan who has gone to the Gala every year
Um... hasn't there only been one? :scratch


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 23, 2008, 12:36:44 PM


I forgot to mention this morning that I hope our Texas members are safe from the Hurricane - I know that Houston is on the heavy rain side of the storm, and Houston floods. dudley - hope you are safe and dry  :hugg



 :yes  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Petjen on July 23, 2008, 12:59:41 PM
Oh, I don't know.....I think Clay looked pretty dang good last summer!  I don't see any "chunk" here.


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/lovinclay/HolyCrapClaySkin.jpg

Those jeans were ridin' a little low. Someday, that man's gonna reveal more than he meant to. :lol

I'd love to be there when that happens.     :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 23, 2008, 01:03:23 PM

Anywhoo...here I am! :purpbana

Luluasst

And we're glad of it!  :wave  Also glad to hear of another Claymaniac out here... Shirl/Clay Obssessed. (I'm near Pasadena...wonder if either of you are nearby?)  Perhaps we So Cal Claymaniacs could go for coffee...or learn Gwenn's game mah jong...or however it is spelled...while sharing the Clay love!  :lol


COOL!  I lived and worked in Hollywood for years then moved to San Diego but I come into LA all the time so PICK A DATE!!  :shappy


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 23, 2008, 01:29:26 PM
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COOL!  I lived and worked in Hollywood for years then moved to San Diego but I come into LA all the time so PICK A DATE!!   
 
 
 


While you're at it, LULAST, how about stopping by the Mar Vista neigborhood in LA to check on my USC son!  :lol  He is a struggling grad student living in sort of a scary neighborhood in L.A.   :para  I can't wait for him to move out of that area.  Hopefully within the next year he'll be moving up to Valencia to be near his girlfriend.

Anyway, I'm glad to see that JOHANNA is able to make some So. Cal connections here on Critical Mass!   :clap


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 23, 2008, 01:34:13 PM
LINDA, I'm glad to here that you are doing OK down in the Houston Area.  Are you anywhere near the hurricane?

AARGHGH I just got back from getting my license renewed at the DMV.  Not the best photo, for sure.  As I tried to keep my head down so my emerging double chin wouldn't show,  I ended up looking more than a little crazed.  The look in my eyes is quite skeery, for sure!   :lol

Clay content:  Good luck to those going for Gala tickets!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 23, 2008, 01:45:57 PM
TBAF - I know a fan who has gone to the Gala every year
Um... hasn't there only been one? :scratch

SUNNY--THERE HAS BEEN ONLY 1 IN RALEIGH.  THERE WAS A SEMI-GALA IN DOVER IN 2004.  SEVERAL OF US WENT TO THAT.   THEN HAWAII, LA, AND FLORIA.  I ACTUALLY KNOW FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN TO AT LEAST 2 OF THEM.

I KNOW THAT CLAY WANTS TO EXPAND THE BAF TO CORPORATIONS AND NOT HAVE TO DEPEND ON FAN SUPPORT.  BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT MANY OF US HAVE MADE THE BAF PART OF WHO WE SUPPORT. 

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 23, 2008, 01:50:28 PM
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COOL!  I lived and worked in Hollywood for years then moved to San Diego but I come into LA all the time so PICK A DATE!!   
 
 
 


While you're at it, LULAST, how about stopping by the Mar Vista neigborhood in LA to check on my USC son!  :lol  He is a struggling grad student living in sort of a scary neighborhood in L.A.   :para  I can't wait for him to move out of that area.  Hopefully within the next year he'll be moving up to Valencia to be near his girlfriend.



I will send your son magical dust  :dust and he will be protected!  :dust


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 23, 2008, 01:56:12 PM
TBAF - I know a fan who has gone to the Gala every year
Um... hasn't there only been one? :scratch

SUNNY--THERE HAS BEEN ONLY 1 IN RALEIGH.  THERE WAS A SEMI-GALA IN DOVER IN 2004.  SEVERAL OF US WENT TO THAT.   THEN HAWAII, LA, AND FLORIA.  I ACTUALLY KNOW FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN TO AT LEAST 2 OF THEM.

I KNOW THAT CLAY WANTS TO EXPAND THE BAF TO CORPORATIONS AND NOT HAVE TO DEPEND ON FAN SUPPORT.  BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT MANY OF US HAVE MADE THE BAF PART OF WHO WE SUPPORT. 

GWENN

 :wave Hi Gwenn.
I wish BAF would come out West too.
Luluasst


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 23, 2008, 02:02:18 PM
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I KNOW THAT CLAY WANTS TO EXPAND THE BAF TO CORPORATIONS AND NOT HAVE TO DEPEND ON FAN SUPPORT.  BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT MANY OF US HAVE MADE THE BAF PART OF WHO WE SUPPORT. 


Absolutely, GWENN.  And I would hope that Clay never forgets the devoted fans who helped him to launch the BAF in the early days of his career.  Even the smallest of monetary donations can seem "corporate sized" to many who are on a fixed income and/or limited budget.

EDIT:  LULAST, thanks for the "magical protection dust".  :hugg  He sure can use any protection that is out there.  I'm not a huge fan of the city of LA.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lolita on July 23, 2008, 02:10:20 PM
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AARGHGH I just got back from getting my license renewed at the DMV.  Not the best photo, for sure.  As I tried to keep my head down so my emerging double chin wouldn't show,  I ended up looking more than a little crazed.  The look in my eyes is quite skeery, for sure!   

 :lol :lol :lol Thea, I looked like I just murdered three people in my license photo... :lol :lol :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 23, 2008, 02:13:06 PM
Sunny I know  only one fan lucky enough to have gone to every Gala - but I'm sure there are hundreds! (Incredible that she has been able to get tickets every time!)

Linda - glad you are safe - we are even getting rain (that we needed very much) from the outer bands of the hurricane - and I am in the middle of Louisiana!  I know you must be getting very heavy rain!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 23, 2008, 02:15:54 PM
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AARGHGH I just got back from getting my license renewed at the DMV.  Not the best photo, for sure.  As I tried to keep my head down so my emerging double chin wouldn't show,  I ended up looking more than a little crazed.  The look in my eyes is quite skeery, for sure!  

 :lol :lol :lol Thea, I looked like I just murdered three people in my license photo... :lol :lol :lol

 :lmao :lmao LOLITA, I'm glad I'm not alone!!!  :roflmao :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 23, 2008, 02:18:39 PM
SUNNY--THERE HAS BEEN ONLY 1 IN RALEIGH.  THERE WAS A SEMI-GALA IN DOVER IN 2004.  SEVERAL OF US WENT TO THAT.   THEN HAWAII, LA, AND FLORIA.  I ACTUALLY KNOW FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN TO AT LEAST 2 OF THEM.
:doh I knew that!

Excuse my ignorance. It's all about me, you see. :blush




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 23, 2008, 02:23:47 PM
SUNNY--THERE HAS BEEN ONLY 1 IN RALEIGH.  THERE WAS A SEMI-GALA IN DOVER IN 2004.  SEVERAL OF US WENT TO THAT.   THEN HAWAII, LA, AND FLORIA.  I ACTUALLY KNOW FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN TO AT LEAST 2 OF THEM.
:doh I knew that!

Excuse my ignorance. It's all about me, you see. :blush




SUNNY--ONE THING YOU AIN'T IS IGNORANT.   :hugg

LINDA--HOPE YOU ARE SAFE.

MY AC ISN'T WORKING RIGHT.  THE MAN IS HERE.  OMG, ANYONE WHO KNOWS ME KNOWS HOW THE HEAT MAKES ME NUTS.  WELL, MORE NUTS THAN I AM.  CROSS FINGERS THAT HE CAN FIX IT.

ANNOYING BIG TIME.   :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang

ANYONE KNOW HOW TO DO POWER POINT?  I THINK I MAY NEED TO KNOW HOW TO DO THIS AND I DON'T KNOW NOTHING  ABOUT IT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claymate27 on July 23, 2008, 02:30:06 PM
 :wave

I pray your AC gets fixed....I know what it feels like..believe me....My aunt and uncle's AC went out,while they were outta town and I had to sit in a house that was easily....99 degrees and higher with nuttin but a small box fan....It was horrible....I got migraines like you would not believe...I am now thankful everyday that I come into a house with AC ......they had it fixed and it cost over 1,000 dollars...... :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 23, 2008, 02:43:23 PM
FAST PRAYERS.  THE AC IS FIXED.  NICE WHEN YOU HAVE A SERVICE CONTRACT.  NO CHARGE.  LIGHTENING LAST NIGHT BLEW OUT SOME PART.

GWENN


 :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 23, 2008, 02:52:43 PM
FAST PRAYERS.  THE AC IS FIXED. 

God appreciates a cool breeze, too. :wink



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 23, 2008, 03:12:16 PM




                                      WELL NEVER KNEW GOD LIKED BREEZES THANK YOU FOR THE INFO. SUNNY. :roflmao :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on July 23, 2008, 03:12:58 PM
Regarding the "friends" thing mentioned earlier:  Netscape or Windows Explorer recently ran an internet story about a study that found that more husbands refer to their wives (or, one might say, male significant others refer to their female significant others) as their "Best Friends," than women refer to their husbands the same way.  

I have no doubt that Clay and Jaymes are best friends, as he has said so.  Celebrities go to great lengths to keep their love lives private from the public -- not appearing in public as a couple unless within the company of others, arriving and departing from functions separately, etc. -- and Clay said in an interview that he keeps that part of his life private.  He has never said that he and Jaymes are not more than best friends, or that they are only platonic friends -- the tabloid media (print and internet) covers that angle.  

I suspect that, if Clay should in fact be in a committed loving relationship, he would not choose to share the fact with his fans or with the public until ready to do so -- the birth of a child might be such an opportunity.



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 23, 2008, 04:14:01 PM
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EDIT:  LULAST, thanks for the "magical protection dust".  :hugg  He sure can use any protection that is out there.  I'm not a huge fan of the city of LA.

No worries.  :shocked I know not everyone is a fan of Lala land. I had a good run there so I have fond memories, but you're right...it's not for everyone.

Luluasst


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 23, 2008, 05:00:40 PM
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No worries.   I know not everyone is a fan of Lala land. I had a good run there so I have fond memories, but you're right...it's not for everyone.

LULU, actually my USC son is a huge fan of Los Angeles.  He hopes to stay out there (hopefully in a better part of town) once he graduates.  In fact, he has warned us that we will probably end up living out there with him in a few years!   :eek


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I suspect that, if Clay should in fact be in a committed loving relationship, he would not choose to share the fact with his fans or with the public until ready to do so -- the birth of a child might be such an opportunity.

I can't argue with that, MAINER.   :no  Well, we should get word of the "blessed event" in a few weeks (assuming the blessed event is real).  Hopefully it will come through a legitimate media source.  Speaking of illegitimate media sources, I used to be a fan of "The People's Court" until I realized that none other than Mr. Harvey Levin is the resident "legal spokesperson" for the show.  Sorry, Harvey, I can't stand the sight of you anymore.  :bang


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 23, 2008, 05:00:50 PM
I have just been over on the Wral Mix 101.5 website to check out play times for Clay ...and On My Way Here has not been played for 2 days..It is showing him as being #25 on in chart position ,and he has moved up to #8 on the Top 20...I had written to the station director in charge of programing and asked for him to please explain the difference in chart position & Top 20,but have heard NOTHING...Today there are 5 requests showing from people either( calling in or e-mailing) asking for them to play Clay Aiken . This has me royal ticked! :bang :bang

Do you gals who live in NC (within the listening area) call and request to hear Clay played ,or to thank them when they do?  I think it rreally would help get him played more often.

I hate to see this album just fall by the wayside...but like I've stated before the unbeat songs should have been the single.

I'm through ranting...Sorry!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 23, 2008, 05:35:08 PM

I'm through ranting...Sorry!!


RANTING is ALLOWED! I'm not in that part of the country or I would call in!

Maybe one of his songs will e part of the Olympics...or even a new song. That would perk things up for sure!  :shappy


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 23, 2008, 05:37:18 PM
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LULU, actually my USC son is a huge fan of Los Angeles.  He hopes to stay out there (hopefully in a better part of town) once he graduates.  In fact, he has warned us that we will probably end up living out there with him in a few years!   :eek



I hear you. Of course he likes LA - he's going to a top notch school there (altho I'm a UCLA fan myself). But I really don't think you'll have to move there. My guess is that he mentioned that just to drive you crazy! :hypno That's what our kids do!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 23, 2008, 05:44:08 PM



                                WHERE IS EVERYBODY I AM READY TO PARTYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 23, 2008, 06:12:47 PM
 :wave

Correction! Shirl is not in Southern California - she is just north of the middle of California, she tells me - I need a Map!  :lol

Not in the mood to party - our Plumber left town suddenly last weekend - took another job in another state and is not coming back (didn't tell anyone he was leaving). Contractor has found out that he made a major mistake at the house, too - going to cost extra money to correct. Is there ever a remodel that goes well?????

Clay content: I wish it was last summer and I was watching Clay instead of picking out paint!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 23, 2008, 07:25:45 PM
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Not in the mood to party - our Plumber left town suddenly last weekend - took another job in another state and is not coming back (didn't tell anyone he was leaving). Contractor has found out that he made a major mistake at the house, too - going to cost extra money to correct. Is there ever a remodel that goes well?????

FRANKIE, I'm sorry to read about your setback with your remodeling.  If you weren't up to your neck already with remodeling woes, I would suggest that you sue the yokel who skipped town on you;  but who needs more aggravation????  :headache

And in answer to your question:  I don't know of a remodel that has ever gone smoothly.   :bang

Clay content:  GLORY,  I guess we're all "partied out" tonight.   :nap  Maybe tomorrow Clay will give us something to celebrate?????  The drought can't go on forever, right?  :para




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 23, 2008, 07:45:08 PM
:wave

Correction! Shirl is not in Southern California - she is just north of the middle of California, she tells me - I need a Map!  :lol

Clay content: I wish it was last summer and I was watching Clay instead of picking out paint!!!!

Re: Shirl - yeah, San Jose is near San Francisco....  :smile

Clay content:  I wish also!!! Last year on my birthday (Aug 3rd) I saw Clay in concert!  :thud


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 23, 2008, 10:03:14 PM
TBAF - I know a fan who has gone to the Gala every year
Um... hasn't there only been one? :scratch

SUNNY--THERE HAS BEEN ONLY 1 IN RALEIGH.  THERE WAS A SEMI-GALA IN DOVER IN 2004.  SEVERAL OF US WENT TO THAT.   THEN HAWAII, LA, AND FLORIA.  I ACTUALLY KNOW FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN TO AT LEAST 2 OF THEM.

I KNOW THAT CLAY WANTS TO EXPAND THE BAF TO CORPORATIONS AND NOT HAVE TO DEPEND ON FAN SUPPORT.  BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT MANY OF US HAVE MADE THE BAF PART OF WHO WE SUPPORT. 

GWENN

And the first one was in Kansas City.

I would love to attend the gala. I am glad to see first hand what the foundation does for these children. Our club put on a carnival at the KC camp a few years ago. The kids and everyone involved loved it. I love volunteering for WFI and the Beta Alpha chapters I belong to. I only wish there was more I could do.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 24, 2008, 02:45:12 AM
Meesa - the Kansas City club did so much - in fact, Clay fans have done so much. I love going to the TBAF site and reading about what each Beta Alpha chapter has done - and looking at the list of donations from each Chapter is amazing. I keep thinking that when I was watching AI2, none of us (including Clay!) could have ever imagined that so much good would have come from it. I am still sad that the KC Fan Club has disbanded - being a far away member meant a lot to me, even though I could not physically help with most projects.  But I know that you and the other former members will continue to work with your Beta Alpha Chapter and will continue to make a difference  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lorilovesgolf on July 24, 2008, 05:00:55 AM
Meesa - my sister, my husband and I were at the gala in Dover in 2004.  I was living in Washington D.C. and saw Clay quite a few times!!  Wow, that was 4 years ago already.  I miss him!!!  I also met Jamie McMurray, a Nascar driver - cute as can be!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 24, 2008, 07:08:18 AM
Good morning, ladies!

LORI, it's always good to see you pop in here!  :hugg  I think I remember your posting about attending the  Dover gala many, many moons ago!

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I am still sad that the KC Fan Club has disbanded

FRANKIE, This is the first I've heard of the KC Fan Club disbanding.  (of course, I'm usually the last to know everything in our Clay world  :wink)  Wow, as I understand it was one of the best-organized and most active Clay fan clubs at one time.  MEESA, do you know the details of why they disbanded?  Disenchanted fans?  Leadership moving out of the area?  I wonder if Clay has taken note of that (or does he even care???).  This makes me a bit sad.

MEESA, how are you coping with balancing two jobs these days?  Is there any end in sight? I think of you often.  :hugg  Also, I would love to see a photo of the Spamalot poster in your new "Clay Room".  Any chance that you could post a link here on CM?

P.S.  JOHANNA, I promise to PM you later in the day!  :hugg

I have a few appointments today, so I have to get going.  Have a wonderful day, ladies! 



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 24, 2008, 07:37:18 AM
MORNING!
  I'VE BEEN HAVING LOTS OF CRAZY CLAY DREAMS THE LAST FEW NIGHTS.  I THINK IT'S BECAUSE OF THE MEDS. THE DOCTOR PUT ME ON.  BY FAR THE BEST WAS CLAY IS GETTING HIS OWN 30 MIN. NEWS MAGAZINE TYPE SHOW.  IT WAS CALLED "AIKEN'S AMERICA"  ONCE A WEEK, 30 MIN. HOW COOL WOULD THAT BE.  I CAN DREAM, RIGHT???


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 24, 2008, 09:16:34 AM
GREAT DREAM, LIZ.  IF ONLY......

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 24, 2008, 09:30:38 AM
Thea - Jen (President) sent out the email about the KC Club this week - they voted at the June 22 meeting to disband. All money left in the bank account was donated to TBAF for their Alpha Beta Chapter, which they still have. Reasons given were just that membership and participation - even attendance at meetings - had gotten so small. I guess each person had their reasons for not going - real life does have to come first. But they were one of the first - and I think the best Clubs in the Clay Nation. I met several members in Rhode Island during the first JNT, and I could not believe all of the work they were getting accomplished for  TBAF. I asked to join long distance, as did several other people who do not live anywhere near Kansas!  :lol They are still a great group of friends, who plan to travel to concerts together and to always keep in touch - I'm sure Meesa can give you more details, since she was actually there!

It makes me sad, though - I would give anything to have a group like that near my home. I wonder if members won't realize what they have lost, and will start the Club up again some day. Emails from members showed how shocked many members were, and many said they were sorry to have let meetings slipped by. Maybe they all just worked so hard for so many years that they just need a rest.

EDIT - Liz - great dream! I think TV Producers need to be on your medicine!  :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 24, 2008, 09:45:12 AM
MORNING!
  I'VE BEEN HAVING LOTS OF CRAZY CLAY DREAMS THE LAST FEW NIGHTS.  I THINK IT'S BECAUSE OF THE MEDS. THE DOCTOR PUT ME ON.  BY FAR THE BEST WAS CLAY IS GETTING HIS OWN 30 MIN. NEWS MAGAZINE TYPE SHOW.  IT WAS CALLED "AIKEN'S AMERICA"  ONCE A WEEK, 30 MIN. HOW COOL WOULD THAT BE.  I CAN DREAM, RIGHT???

Hey, if you need a director for that show, I'm here for ya! :bouncy


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lorilovesgolf on July 24, 2008, 11:02:00 AM
I just finished reading "The Kite Runner."  I bought the book last year but never got around to reading it.   There was always another book I wanted to read first.  Well, let me tell you - that was one of the best books (if not the BEST book) I have ever read.  And I have read quite a few books.
Clay content:  after reading that book and knowing what he sees on his UNICEF trips, I just have to say that IMO Clay could care diddly squat what anybody says or thinks about him.  He knows where the real problems are, and they aren't with the tabloids!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 24, 2008, 11:58:43 AM
One of my favorite books, too, Lori.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lorilovesgolf on July 24, 2008, 12:24:13 PM
Did anybody see the movie The Kite Runner?  I wondered how it compared to the book.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 24, 2008, 12:25:16 PM
I READ THE BOOK AND SAW THE MOVIE.  I THINK THE BOOK WAS BETTER BUT THE MOVIE WAS VERY MOVING ALSO.  IT WAS TOUGH FOR ME BECAUSE OF ALL THE SUBTITLES.  BUT DEFINITELY WORTH A RENT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 24, 2008, 12:26:05 PM
Clay content:  after reading that book and knowing what he sees on his UNICEF trips, I just have to say that IMO Clay could care diddly squat what anybody says or thinks about him.  He knows where the real problems are, and they aren't with the tabloids!!


:word :thumb


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on July 24, 2008, 12:51:49 PM

This goes to the tabloid thread -- but I can't find it??? 

This source is not known for its reliability, but now here's this from today's "US Weekly":

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Buzz up!Forget Mother Nature – Us Weekly reports in its new issue, on newsstands now, that Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt turned to fertility treatments to quickly conceive twins Knox and Vivienne.

"They conceived through in vitro fertilization," a well-placed source within their camp tells Us. "They both desperately wanted more babies soon."

The chance of having fraternal twins at Angelina's age (33) naturally is under 1 percent; with in vitro, the chances are 25 percent. Says Dr. Arthur Wisot of L.A.'s Reproductive Medical Group (who did not treat the couple), "We live in an era of reproductive freedom, so anybody can do anything they want within legal limits."

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not that I believe or care about any of this -- but if IV is put forth as ok for Pitt and Jolie, then it may be harder for print and online tabloids to use it to try to generate buzz and inneuendo about other reproductive couples.  (Also, the first IV baby turned 30 -- yesterday, I think.)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 24, 2008, 12:55:27 PM
LORI, MICKI and GWENN, I also loved reading The Kite Runner.  And I think I'm going to buy the sequel A Thousand Splendid Suns for our upcoming cruise.  To me there's nothing more relaxing than reading a good book on the deck of a large ship.  (assuming it's not freezing cold, that is! )

GWENN, kudos to you for seeing movie and being willing to put up with subtitles. :notworthy  I tend to get restless with that sort of movie!  :crazy

FRANKIE, thanks for the info on the dissolution of the KC Fan Club.  I could see where the very involved members could get burned out after a few years.  If they had been able to get a large number people to attend meetings on a regular basis so that they could rotate leadership responsibilities,  I'm sure they would have kept it going.  It's always tough to bear the leadship role year after year.  Been there, done that in too many organizations over the years.  :hypno



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 24, 2008, 01:02:22 PM
Thea, where are you cruising to?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 24, 2008, 01:06:54 PM
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Thea, where are you cruising to?

The Northern European coastline, specifically the Baltic Sea.  We will be embarking in Copenhagen and visiting Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Poland and St. Petersburg, Russia.  Phil has been determined to see the world over the past few years, so I've been more than happy to tag along!!!  :lol 



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Post by: lovinclay on July 24, 2008, 01:09:41 PM
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Thea, where are you cruising to?

The Northern European coastline, specifically the Baltic Sea.  We will be embarking in Copenhagen and visiting Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Poland and St. Petersburg, Russia.  Phil has been determined to see the world over the past few years, so I've been more than happy to tag along!!!  :lol 




WOW!  That sounds amazing!  Safe travels!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 24, 2008, 01:37:25 PM
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Thea, where are you cruising to?

The Northern European coastline, specifically the Baltic Sea.  We will be embarking in Copenhagen and visiting Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Poland and St. Petersburg, Russia.  Phil has been determined to see the world over the past few years, so I've been more than happy to tag along!!!  :lol 

Thea, that sounds fantastic! :bouncy

Can I sneak on in one of your suitcases?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 24, 2008, 01:40:40 PM



                                         THEA YOU CAN TAKE ME FOR COMIC RELEIF. :lol :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 24, 2008, 01:49:28 PM
Thanks, ladies!!   Yup, I wish I could put all of you in one of my suitcases.  The problem is that there is a 50 lb limit per suitcase, and only 2 suitcases plus one carry-on are allowed.  So the math makes this impossible...sorry! 

GLORY, maybe we can get you a special deal for  "comic relief" personnel!   You'd be wonderful at that!   :lol :hugg

Yup, it should be fun!  I'll keep you posted , ladies!  :ghug




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 24, 2008, 01:49:48 PM
Look, why don't we all go?  There's nothing happen in the ClayNation now anyway.  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 24, 2008, 01:57:33 PM
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Look, why don't we all go?  There's nothing happen in the ClayNation now anyway.


 :lmao MICKI.  And maybe by the time we get back Clay will have announced a fall tour, TMZ will have been dropped from the TV fall schedules, there will be Grammy buzz for On My Way Here and well....you all can fill in the blanks, OK?   :bigsmile



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Post by: IChris1 on July 24, 2008, 02:25:30 PM
Thea, have fun on your cruise.  I have read both Kite Runner and A Thousand Splendid Suns.  Like Lori, I loved the Kite Runner.  I read a lot too and it has become one of my favorite books.  To me, A Thousand Splendid Suns was not as nice a book as the Kite Runner.  It was very raw and upsetting to me.  The Kite Runner was about two boys but ATSP is about two girls and I had to put it down several times and just cry.  Thea, you may want a lighter, more fun book to read on your cruise.  Just my opinion.  Others may have loved it. 


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Post by: mimi on July 24, 2008, 03:13:26 PM
Hi Everyone,

My horoscope for the day---

Leo (July 23- Aug 22) Some one whom you have anxiously been wanting to hear from,will BLOG!!....

This talented person has been busy with ,career, doing humanitarian good deeds, taking much needed R&R, & personal affairs.   Patience & Silence will pay off...and in the end it will all work out.

Gosh! Who could it be ?? :scratch


So ,I lied,(sounded good though) :naughty  It was wishful thinking, but it is my birthday wish for US ALL :ghug2

My real horoscope is.... Perfection does not equal contentment... Hitting the bulls-eye won't win you any prizes However an emphasis on team spirit works wonders  *(note from me )....as long as team spirit doesn't include cheering.... :bigsmile

Would the possible defination of team spirit be .. ..joining together with friends in ticket stress?  :stress


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 24, 2008, 03:41:00 PM
The KC Clay Fans disbanded in name only. We'll still get together when we can. As Frankie said, attendance was down. It was very disheartening to drive 3 1/2 hours and see the numbers get smaller at the meeting. We're going to still travel together as well. It really made me sad it had to come to this, but I think it's for the best.

Jen (PuddinsJoy) and I along with several Wichita area fans put together a new Beta Alpha Chapter at CD release time ... Kansas Kares. I will still remain active in the several chapters I belong to (including CSI) but this one ensures our WFI and local fundraising goes to this local chapter. Our very own Kim even donated a drawing at the CD release party to help raise funds.  :clap

Thea - I'll try to post a pic tonight. I actually am using a pic of me and the poster at MySpace as my avie.  :lol :smile The store manager at job #2 said she is very impressed that I;m maintaining all these hours at two jobs. I got my performance evaluation yesterday and she said she had nothing but good things to say! I got my second raise and I've only been back a month and a half.  :bigsmile I've been pretty tired lately, but I have to do what I have to do. I'll make it.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 24, 2008, 04:12:50 PM
Thanks, ladies!!   Yup, I wish I could put all of you in one of my suitcases.  The problem is that there is a 50 lb limit...

Hey now... :naughty :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 24, 2008, 04:19:07 PM
I got back home late last night and was exhausted so I didn't try to catch up.  I knew if I did that I would have been sitting here after midnight.  I can't believe I have got about 20 pages to catch up on.  I'm sure I won't be able to read every word, but I will skim over everyone's posts and see what went on while I was gone. 

I had a good trip and it was great to get together with my son and his family.  The granddaughters are growing up way too fast.  If I sit still, maybe they'll catch up with me.   :bigsmile

I did see there was a Clay sighting at a Bar-B-Q place.  I guess Clay needed his barbeque and sweet tea fix after being gone for so long.  Maybe now that we know he is back, we will start getting some type of news.  To quote Spamalot -- "what are you waiting for, these people don't have all night". 

Good to be back and now I'm going to see if I can catch up a little.  Be back later. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 24, 2008, 04:26:26 PM
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Thea, you may want a lighter, more fun book to read on your cruise.  Just my opinion.  Others may have loved it. 


Thanks for the advice on A Thousand Splendid Suns, IRENE. Maybe I'll stick with a Nora Roberts novel!  :wink  No depressing reading for me on vacation. 

MEESA, congrats on your continuing good reviews and your raises!   :clap  I hope somewhere up the road you'll be all caught up and able to spend more time in that new office of yours and on the new Beta Alpha chapter, as well!!!!  No hurry on the photo.  In fact, maybe I'll go check out your MySpace page!!!  :hugg 

 :wave WILSON BARB and  :birthday MIMI 1!  :hugg



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 24, 2008, 04:27:02 PM
Thanks, ladies!!   Yup, I wish I could put all of you in one of my suitcases.  The problem is that there is a 50 lb limit...

Hey now... :naughty :lol

Oops!!!!    :para :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 24, 2008, 05:07:15 PM
THEA---I WANT TO GO.   :hissy :hissy :hissy

I AM EXHAUSTED.  DIDN'T WIN ONE SINGLE GAME AT MAH JONGG.   :bang :bang 

MARLENE--I LIKE YOUR HOROSCOPE.

GOTTA GO WATCH SOME TV AND VEG.  I AM POOPED.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 24, 2008, 05:22:01 PM
Just stopping by... :wave

Thea...I think a bunch of us are ready to 'stow away' with you...  :lol ...what a activity filled trip awaits you...are you going for longer than a couple of weeks to see it all...great R and R after the busy family times...

Shelly...I am looking forward to meeting up with you!...and my So Cal fan group is planning a Clay event down in Vista...perhaps that's near you...in mid September

Marlene...wonderful horoscope...and I hope you've enjoyed the best day, too...NC barbeque feast in your plans?

Gwenn...glad to hear you were out and about...taking a break from Harcourt intensives

Meesa...I'm so impressed by your stamina...good luck with all of the items pending between family and property matters...

Barbara...welcome home, Clay buddy!

And Clay darling, if you are reading here tonight  :bigsmile...wish you and those you love,  the best of blessings to come!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 24, 2008, 05:22:25 PM
I am so upset..I got my answer today from WRAL fm Mix 101.5 program manager.

Dear Marlene,

Clays song has tested poorly with our listeners the past several weeks and has been dropped from our playlist - We were one of a few stations across the country that even played the song,but unfortunately its not something the majority of our listener want to hear.

Barry Cox

Well thats matter of fact ,don't you think?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 24, 2008, 05:25:15 PM

My real horoscope is.... Perfection does not equal contentment... Hitting the bulls-eye won't win you any prizes However an emphasis on team spirit works wonders  *(note from me )....as long as team spirit doesn't include cheering.... :bigsmile


MIMI! DId you notice I sent you a birthday wish on the other thread and I DID NOT add cheerleaders!!  :roflmao

Luluasst


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Post by: luluasst on July 24, 2008, 05:30:04 PM
Just stopping by... :wave



Shelly...I am looking forward to meeting up with you!...and my So Cal fan group is planning a Clay event down in Vista...perhaps that's near you...in mid September


IT IS!!! KEEP ME IN THE LOOP!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 24, 2008, 05:34:20 PM
Thank you all for the wonderful birthday messages...I LOVE EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU..

I just wish I hadn't read my e-mail tonight from the radio station program manager because I'm really ticked and a whole lot upset...but it is ,what it is, and it SUCKS!   :bang   :pullhair


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 24, 2008, 05:42:17 PM
I am so upset..I got my answer today from WRAL fm Mix 101.5 program manager.

Dear Marlene,

Clays song has tested poorly with our listeners the past several weeks and has been dropped from our playlist - We were one of a few stations across the country that even played the song,but unfortunately its not something the majority of our listener want to hear.

Barry Cox

Well thats matter of fact ,don't you think?

Ouch.

RCA should have led off with a more up-tempo song. (I hate to Monday-morning quarterback, but since I said the same thing back in May, I'm really not doing that.)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 24, 2008, 06:14:55 PM
Sunny ,I agree wholeheartely..Why, oh why ,couldn't it have been one of the up-tempo songs.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 24, 2008, 07:05:58 PM
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RCA should have led off with a more up-tempo song. (I hate to Monday-morning quarterback, but since I said the same thing back in May, I'm really not doing that.)

Well, SUNNY, then you can call me a "Monday-Morning QB", as well.  You all can start throwing wormy tomatoes and rotten squash at me right now, because I truly believe that Clay shot himself in the foot in insisting upon "On My Way Here' being the first release.  Even Kipper was touting "Everything I Don't Need" as one of the best on the album....maybe if Clay had gone with this song as his first release Kipper could have pulled a few more strings and "bought" some extra support for Clay. 
 
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am so upset..I got my answer today from WRAL fm Mix 101.5 program manager.

Dear Marlene,

Clays song has tested poorly with our listeners the past several weeks and has been dropped from our playlist - We were one of a few stations across the country that even played the song,but unfortunately its not something the majority of our listener want to hear.

Barry Cox


Oh, well, all I can say is that I'm not surprised at the WRAL DJ's response to your note, MARLENE.  I'm just sorry you had to receive it on your birthday.   :comfort  You sure "gave it all you've got" in the fight for airplay for Clay.  Please know that you are loved and appreciated by all of us here on Critical Mass!   :ghug2


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Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 24, 2008, 07:21:59 PM
Okay, I will share. This is a pic of me with my birthday present from Thea! :bouncy

Isn't he handsome? (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.editAlbumPhoto&albumID=433261&imageID=39850898&MyToken=da0c0e89-3069-4552-bef7-888c5d1408ce) :thud


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 24, 2008, 07:30:06 PM
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Thea...I think a bunch of us are ready to 'stow away' with you...   ...what a activity filled trip awaits you...are you going for longer than a couple of weeks to see it all...great R and R after the busy family times...

 :wave JOHANNA.  Yup, it will be an "activity filled" trip, although this time we've planned our day trips away from the ship more carefully so that we don't get completely worn out.  We'll be gone for a total of 12 days...believe me, any time longer than that makes us yearn to be back on American soil.  I always come home from our travels with an even greater appreciation of the United States!  We truly live in the greatest nation in the world.   :usa  OK, I'm not running for political office, so I'll  :zip my lip now!!!!  :lol

CLAY CONTENT:  I have no doubt that Clay returns from his UNICEF trips feeling very fortunate to live here.  Such a sharp contrast between the US and third-world nations.  That's staing the obvious, isn't it!  :lol



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Post by: Glory on July 24, 2008, 08:08:57 PM



                                          YEP TO ALL ABOVE.

                      RCA SUCKS IMHO, MIMI. THEY TOLD CLAY WHICH SINGLE HE HAD TO PUT OUT.

                         WELL FEELING KINDA SICKLY ATE TO MUCH COBBLER  :roflmao SOMEBODY PLEASE CLOBBER ME. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 24, 2008, 08:26:51 PM
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RCA should have led off with a more up-tempo song. (I hate to Monday-morning quarterback, but since I said the same thing back in May, I'm really not doing that.)

Well, SUNNY, then you can call me a "Monday-Morning QB", as well.  You all can start throwing wormy tomatoes and rotten squash at me right now, because I truly believe that Clay shot himself in the foot in insisting upon "On My Way Here' being the first release.  Even Kipper was touting "Everything I Don't Need" as one of the best on the album....maybe if Clay had gone with this song as his first release Kipper could have pulled a few more strings and "bought" some extra support for Clay. 

For the record, I have read many boards and the general consensus is that the LABEL picked the first single. I believe, from what I have read, etc. that Clay was gearing toward Ashes. Another reason that On My Way Here was the lead single was that it was the theme of the album, and also the title of it. Of course, that may be all kerflooey, but from various sources it is usually the label that picks the single. Thats why folks around are again upset at RCA


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 24, 2008, 08:48:05 PM


                                 
                                  I AM TICKED AT RCA FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, I WILL NOT SHARE THEM. WILL KEEP THEM TO MYSELF TIL I EXPLODE. :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 24, 2008, 09:38:06 PM
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RCA should have led off with a more up-tempo song. (I hate to Monday-morning quarterback, but since I said the same thing back in May, I'm really not doing that.)

Well, SUNNY, then you can call me a "Monday-Morning QB", as well.  You all can start throwing wormy tomatoes and rotten squash at me right now, because I truly believe that Clay shot himself in the foot in insisting upon "On My Way Here' being the first release.  Even Kipper was touting "Everything I Don't Need" as one of the best on the album....maybe if Clay had gone with this song as his first release Kipper could have pulled a few more strings and "bought" some extra support for Clay. 


I agree! I think ASHES would've been the better title and single to have pushed. I bet RCA thought that Ahes would be a bad title but when you her the song it's a positive message, actually.  Meanwhile, it doesn't really matter in the scheme of things the way radio is ignoring Clay anyway.....
For the record, I have read many boards and the general consensus is that the LABEL picked the first single. I believe, from what I have read, etc. that Clay was gearing toward Ashes. Another reason that On My Way Here was the lead single was that it was the theme of the album, and also the title of it. Of course, that may be all kerflooey, but from various sources it is usually the label that picks the single. Thats why folks around are again upset at RCA


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 25, 2008, 05:02:37 AM
MORNING--

SO SORRY ABOUT On My Way Here, THE SINGLE.  BUT NOT SURPRISED.  ASHES SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE LEAD SINGLE.  IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THAT ---IS THAT CLAY AIKEN?--- SONG.  BUT, CLAY TOLD US QUITE DIRECTLY AT OUR M & G THAT HE HAS NO SAY IN THE SINGLE RELEASED.  IT IS THE LABEL.  RCA DID IT AGAIN TO HIM.  TOO BAD.

I WAS SOUND ASLEEP BY 9 LAST NIGHT.  OMG, I AM BEAT.  TOO MUCH GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

BEING A CLAY FAN IS JUST NOT EASY.  IT FEELS LIKE LATELY WE ARE ALWAYS SWIMMING UPSTREAM.  IT SUCKS BIG TIME.

AND SORRY TO SAY, I AM NOT THINKING THAT CLAY HIMSELF IS HELPING.  NO TOMATOES, LADIES.

ON ANOTHER NOTE, SPAMALOT IS COMING TO PHILLY AND THEY ARE PROMOTING IT LIKE CRAZY.  MAKES ME NOSTALGIC FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 25, 2008, 06:53:35 AM
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For the record, I have read many boards and the general consensus is that the LABEL picked the first single. I believe, from what I have read, etc. that Clay was gearing toward Ashes. Another reason that On My Way Here was the lead single was that it was the theme of the album, and also the title of it. Of course, that may be all kerflooey, but from various sources it is usually the label that picks the single. Thats why folks around are again upset at RCA

Well, that all may be true, MARILYN, but I still reserve the right to be angry and frustrated with the decision to go with "On My Way Here" as the lead single (whoever is at fault!)   :bang     RCA or whomever, once again, YOU BLEW IT BIG-TIME!!!! OK, now I need to get that blood pressure back down. OHM.................OHM................... :hypno

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BEING A CLAY FAN IS JUST NOT EASY.  IT FEELS LIKE LATELY WE ARE ALWAYS SWIMMING UPSTREAM.  IT SUCKS BIG TIME.

AND SORRY TO SAY, I AM NOT THINKING THAT CLAY HIMSELF IS HELPING.  NO TOMATOES, LADIES.
:yeahthat GWENN.  But speaking for myself,  it seems my entire life I have been "swimming upstream" anyway ,  so whatever...I'm used to it by now.  Being in the minority definitely has it's challenges, even when it comes to taste in music.    But I wouldn't trade one day of my Clay fandom and all of the joys it has brought into my life for an easier path.  :no :ghug2

On a lighter note.....the weekend's almost here, ladies!!!!  :bigsmile  Any big plans???


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 25, 2008, 06:57:22 AM
MEEEEESSSAAAAA!  I wasn't able to open the photo from your MySpace page.   :bduh  But thanks for trying anyway!!!  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 25, 2008, 07:17:18 AM
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BEING A CLAY FAN IS JUST NOT EASY.  IT FEELS LIKE LATELY WE ARE ALWAYS SWIMMING UPSTREAM.  IT SUCKS BIG TIME.

AND SORRY TO SAY, I AM NOT THINKING THAT CLAY HIMSELF IS HELPING.  NO TOMATOES, LADIES.

 :word   :sigh   :doh   :blink   :sad   :doh  :arg    :yeahthat   :hissy   :sniff   :shocking   :doh   :clayfan


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 25, 2008, 07:28:11 AM
GLAD THERE ARE NO TOMATOES, SO FAR. 

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But speaking for myself,  it seems my entire life I have been "swimming upstream" anyway , so whatever...I'm used to it by now.  Being in the minority definitely has it's challenges, even when it comes to taste in music.    But I wouldn't trade one day of my Clay fandom and all of the joys it has brought into my life for an easier path.  No!

WORD ON BOTH POINTS I HIGHLIGHTED.  NOT ONE MINUTE OR ONE PENNY DO I REGRET.  I JUST YEARN FOR EASIER TIMES.

AS FOR THE WEEKEND, BARRY AND I ARE GOING OUT FOR A NICE LUNCH TODAY.  TONIGHT I PLAY MAH JONGG WITH MY FRANKLIN INSTITUTE FRIENDS.  TOMORROW WE HEAD TO MY NIECE'S FOR THE DAY.  CAN'T STAY OVER BECAUSE ER AND BF ARE GOING TO A BEER FESTIVAL AT THE PHILA. ZOO.   :bduh  HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF LOUIE AND SAMMIE.  SUNDAY, FRIENDS ARE COMING OVER SOMETIME DURING THE DAY.  SO, WE ARE BUSY.

THEN MONDAY IS  :stress :stress2  OY.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 25, 2008, 07:47:26 AM
   
 Gwen,
            I agree I don"t regret any money I spent to see Clay. I got it all back in entertainment
        and joy. I would"nt swop my memories for anything!!
                         
             Ticket stress here I come!!! Monday is almost here.
                         
                                                                           Betty                            :cross :stress2


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 25, 2008, 07:56:47 AM
                                    I WAS JUST WATCHING MARIE DRUMMOND VIDEO. OF WHEN YOU NEED ME. THE CROWD WAS ENORMOUS CLAY WITH TEARS IN HIS EYES. LEFT ME MISSING THE GOOD OLD DAYS, HE WAS SUCH A FORCE TO BE RECKONDED WITH. :bigsmile

                                 SOMEBODY SCREWED UP BIG TIME ALONG THE WAY. RCA, AI, CLIVE DAIVIS THEY JUST DID NOT AND DO NOT RECONIZE WHAT WAS IN FRONT OF THEM DO THEY. CLAY HAS SO MUCH TALENT IT SHOULD PUT THEM TO SHAME WASTING IT.On My Way Here IS SUCH A GOOD CD. NOW WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO SEEMS LIKE ON MY WAY HERE HAS TANKED. SO NOW WHAT.

                              PERSONALLY I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO ELIMINATE CLAY FROM THEIR THEIR MINDS,AND THERE ROSTER, STUPID PEOPLE.

                            MAYBE IT IS TIME IF POSSIBLE FOR HIM TO MOVE ON TO A NEW LABEL, OR START HIS OWN LABEL. I KNOW ITS A BAD TIME IN THE INDUSTRY BUT TALENT SHOULD NOT BE DENIED.

                       SORRY FOR THE RANT, BUT IT HAS BEEN BLDING IN FOR A WHILE SO I'D RATHER JUST SAY IT,

                         WHATS NEXT TELL ME PLEASE.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 25, 2008, 08:04:57 AM
RANT ALL YOU WANT, GLORY.  WE ARE ALL FEELING FRUSTRATED.  AND ANNOYED.   :hugg

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 25, 2008, 08:18:32 AM
BUT THE 'BIG' QUESTION IS......IS CLAY FRUSTRATED.....OR.... IS HE RELAXED AND JUST TAKING 'THE SUMMER OFF' LIKE HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO.....BECAUSE HE KNOWS IN HIS MIND WHAT IS COMING UP AND HOW 'GRAND' IT IS GOING TO BE......


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 25, 2008, 08:23:08 AM
BUT THE 'BIG' QUESTION IS......IS CLAY FRUSTRATED.....OR.... IS HE RELAXED AND JUST TAKING 'THE SUMMER OFF' LIKE HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO.....BECAUSE HE KNOWS IN HIS MIND WHAT IS COMING UP AND HOW 'GRAND' IT IS GOING TO BE......

LINDA----FROM YOUR MOUTH TO GOD'S EARS.

I AM NOT AS FRUSTRATED ABOUT NOT HEARING FROM HIM AS I AM ABOUT THE DEATH OF A WONDERFUL CD.  THAT MAKES ME ILL.  BIG TIME.

GWENN


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Post by: GWENN on July 25, 2008, 08:26:56 AM
ON A DIFFERENT NOTE---AND AN EXTREMELY SAD ONE.

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PITTSBURGH (July 25) -- Randy Pausch, a Carnegie Mellon University computer scientist whose "last lecture" about facing terminal cancer became an Internet sensation and a best-selling book, has died. He was 47.

Pausch died early Friday at his home in Virginia, university spokeswoman Anne Watzman said.

THAT THIS WONDERFUL, ARTICULATE, POSITIVE, INTELLIGENT MAN HAD TO GO AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE WITH SUCH YOUNG CHILDREN IS SO INCREDIBLY SAD.

RIP, RANDY.   :cry :cry :cry

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 25, 2008, 08:49:05 AM
I SAW HIM ON OPRAH.  HE WAS AMAZING :(


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on July 25, 2008, 09:07:07 AM
The one thing that is a constant is Clay's amazing talent, and so I expect there will be future hits and successes.   

It makes no sense that On My Way Here was the single released, in terms of Clay's radio potential -- but it makes perfect sense in terms of RCA's attitude if you recall that it was Davis who insisted on the CD of covers (terrific CD, but not one to be a record breaker -- and RCA didn't use the best song on that one either).  There could be an "I'll show you" attitude on the part of RCA, as On My Way Here was the CD that should have been produced first -- and the one that perhaps Clay and Jaymes had wanted first -- and didn't get.

And what is "Acrobats?"  Who is producing it?  Does anybody know?  What if the body of material considered for this latest CD was two-fold, and presented two directions...one can hope...and what if there's is a second CD that is all the alter-ego uptempo stuff (yes, yes, I know I'm dreaming)...

There was an exposee several years ago, which I've mentioned here before, on how record companies marginalize some talents (and often the more gifted ones) in favor of others, through marketing choices.  They want to keep some talents shelved in certain low-profile niches so that they will not compete with other talents with whom the companies have gigantic and expensive contracts and for whom they therefore need to garner the most attention, radio play, and profit -- and in favor of whom they deliberately squelch more talented, but competing, artists with whom they have lower contract obligations.  According to the exposee, record companies will sign new talents just so that they can then marginalize them, to keep them from going to other competing record companies where they could become competitive.

Clay has said he's no Justin (re dance moves, etc.), but the obvious thing is that RCA's Justin is no Clay -- when it comes to the vocals, even and especially the more uptempo vocals.  Clay is just amazing on "Everything I Don't Need" and it is so obvious that he has mastered that genre, among all the others.

I believe however that Clay is among friends, that his talent is much noticed and appreciated, and that the future will be his and that "time will tell" -- just call me a Clay optimist!
In the meantime, he has given the fans a CD we all seem to love, and for which we are very grateful.


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Post by: Sundancer on July 25, 2008, 09:15:37 AM
... speaking for myself,  it seems my entire life I have been "swimming upstream" anyway ,  so whatever...I'm used to it by now. 

'Bet it's made you a strong swimmer. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 25, 2008, 09:18:49 AM
What if the body of material considered for this latest CD was two-fold, and presented two directions...one can hope...and what if there's is a second CD that is all the alter-ego uptempo stuff (yes, yes, I know I'm dreaming)...

Yeah, I think that's probably not the case.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 25, 2008, 09:46:19 AM
The one thing that is a constant is Clay's amazing talent, and so I expect there will be future hits and successes.   

It makes no sense that On My Way Here was the single released, in terms of Clay's radio potential -- but it makes perfect sense in terms of RCA's attitude if you recall that it was Davis who insisted on the CD of covers (terrific CD, but not one to be a record breaker -- and RCA didn't use the best song on that one either).  There could be an "I'll show you" attitude on the part of RCA, as On My Way Here was the CD that should have been produced first -- and the one that perhaps Clay and Jaymes had wanted first -- and didn't get.

And what is "Acrobats?"  Who is producing it?  Does anybody know?  What if the body of material considered for this latest CD was two-fold, and presented two directions...one can hope...and what if there's is a second CD that is all the alter-ego uptempo stuff (yes, yes, I know I'm dreaming)...

There was an exposee several years ago, which I've mentioned here before, on how record companies marginalize some talents (and often the more gifted ones) in favor of others, through marketing choices.  They want to keep some talents shelved in certain low-profile niches so that they will not compete with other talents with whom the companies have gigantic and expensive contracts and for whom they therefore need to garner the most attention, radio play, and profit -- and in favor of whom they deliberately squelch more talented, but competing, artists with whom they have lower contract obligations.  According to the exposee, record companies will sign new talents just so that they can then marginalize them, to keep them from going to other competing record companies where they could become competitive.

Clay has said he's no Justin (re dance moves, etc.), but the obvious thing is that RCA's Justin is no Clay -- when it comes to the vocals, even and especially the more uptempo vocals.  Clay is just amazing on "Everything I Don't Need" and it is so obvious that he has mastered that genre, among all the others.

I believe however that Clay is among friends, that his talent is much noticed and appreciated, and that the future will be his and that "time will tell" -- just call me a Clay optimist!In the meantime, he has given the fans a CD we all seem to love, and for which we are very grateful.


Indeed...mainer, this is where I try to keep my Clay fan spirit...really respected persons in the industry have taken note of Clay...and they know the shadow side of that place...I am convinced Clay is being advised how to play out his hand to stay in the game for the long term...in the meantime I just so believe he is has been resting and negotiating new deals.

and Thea...just call me one of your companions swimin' upstream!   Gwenn...I'm looking up Mah Jongg on the net...I bet thats a great game to set up here too... :smile  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 25, 2008, 09:50:33 AM
Just logged in...lots going on this morning all ready!

Gwenn:  :word
(I AM NOT AS FRUSTRATED ABOUT NOT HEARING FROM HIM AS I AM ABOUT THE DEATH OF A WONDERFUL CD.  THAT MAKES ME ILL.  BIG TIME.)

Glory: :clap
( PERSONALLY I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO ELIMINATE CLAY FROM THEIR THEIR MINDS,AND THERE ROSTER, STUPID PEOPLE. )


Mainer:  :smile I'm an optimist too.
(I believe however that Clay is among friends, that his talent is much noticed and appreciated, and that the future will be his and that "time will tell" -- just call me a Clay optimist!
In the meantime, he has given the fans a CD we all seem to love, and for which we are very grateful.)

Sundancer: Wish your idea of a new direction was true....however, maybe he will leave RCA and go with another label. that would be smart. Does anyone know how long the contract was for at RCA?

LULUASST




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dolphinluver on July 25, 2008, 09:53:03 AM
No matter how rough it is being his fans (right now),  we need to be.  I'm a young widow and miss my husband SO much that it's hard to find anything to make me smile some days - but Clay's voice still does. And always will.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 25, 2008, 09:55:29 AM
No matter how rough it is being his fans (right now), but I'm a young widow and miss my husband SO much that it's hard to find anything to make me smile some days - but Clay's voice still does. Ans always will.

You've given us an important dose of perspective, dolphin. Thanks for sharing what you're going through. God bless. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 25, 2008, 10:09:35 AM
No matter how rough it is being his fans (right now),  we need to be.  I'm a young widow and miss my husband SO much that it's hard to find anything to make me smile some days - but Clay's voice still does. And always will.

 :wave  Here! here! dolphinluver.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 25, 2008, 10:12:17 AM
Everyone...I am flying up to see my mom and dad in a minute - mom just had hip surgery so I will be visiting the folks and she is 80, dad is 89 so they need me. I am not sure if I will be able to get on the computer while gone (just thru Sunday pm), but will try.

I hope I can handle not having my CM fix for 2 days!!!! :bigsmile

Gwenn, Sundancer, Mimi, mainer, Glory will have to keep the laughs and smut going without me, I guess.  :roflmao

Hugs everyone....Luluasst :ghug2


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayfannj on July 25, 2008, 10:15:28 AM
i'm jumping right in.....Just back late last night from 2 weeks  conventioning and vacationing around California...Wonderful trip..Lots of fun, lots of education and  got to strengthen my bond with my mountain living brother and his family... All good....

Missed you all MUCHO...

Didn/t see Clay..but was looking...I did BIRD WATCH at the San Diego Zoo...and did spot James Woods eating lunch at a bistro on Sunset Blvd..and had enough fajitas to last thru winter..BUT NO CLAY...I miss him and you guys too.. Thanks for all the great Birthday Wishes...


As for content and my comment on the contemplated demise of the CD......


Now WHO is responsible for SONG CHOICE and MOOD of a CD...Hmmmmm...THE EXECUTIVE PRODUCER....I believe..

That is where her expertise is most needed and should be exercised...That is



UNLESS.....


She's busy PRODUCING.........


SOMETHING ELSE!!!!! :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 25, 2008, 10:29:31 AM
Marion,

I missed your birthday! :doh

I hope it was as wonderful as you deserve, and that the coming year brings you many joyful opportunities to watch the red-crested warbler and enjoy his song.

And maybe even snag a feather or two. :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayfannj on July 25, 2008, 10:45:54 AM
As long as you're wishing....



MAKE IT A TAIL FEATHER .....please!!! :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 25, 2008, 11:05:36 AM
Thea - Try this : My Page (http://www.myspace.com/meesa80)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 25, 2008, 11:50:22 AM
 :wave

I just can't believe, mimi, that you received that email from a Raleigh radio station - aren't you one of their listeners?!?!? I was thinking today (a shock, I know, but I do think every once in a while) that radio is going the way of the Cd - does anybody really listen to live radio any more? I never listen to local radio stations because they are not live - canned music is bought, and local commercials are inserted. I do listen to satellite radio (XM). It is still live and they have hours where you can actually still call a DJ, talk to him on air, and have a request played!  :clap I usually listen to only music from the 50s through the 80s, though - I should go up the dial to current music (I would only do this for Clay), and see if they take requests, too.

Gwenn and Mainer - I have enjoyed everyones' posts, but especially yours. The Board was so quiet yesterday that I went into the Juke Box Tour Archives here and read everyone's Meet and Greet recaps - such good memories, and so much activity on the Board! I guess I am just ready for those happy times to come back. Feeling for Clay has not - and will never - change, but there is just a sadness around - I can't describe it properly, though.

The weekend - exciting weekend for our family and youngest grandchild. Kaitlyn (age 5) is getting her first dog. (A new grand dog!!!) She met him, and played with him at Pet Smart last weekend. He was there with a group from the Humane Society, and he is a rescued dog. We have been getting excited phone calls every night telling us all about what they are doing to get ready for "Spot"   :lol We are going down to help welcome him home. There could be nothing as good to do on a weekend except for a Clay concert!  :bouncy


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 25, 2008, 12:10:59 PM
I can't recall the kind of station WRAL is...is it AC? or hot AC?  I do agree with fhmmany2 ...radio is becoming anachronistic...right there with the CD...all of my 5th grades have versions of ipods...that is how they listen to music these days.  I also think that Clay's niche is Adult Contemporary...and those radio stations are saturated with just a few artists - i.e. John Mayer...plus lots of oldies but goodies...they certainly don't play a variety of artists anymore.  Still I remain optimistic for the reasons posted by mainer.  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 25, 2008, 12:17:48 PM
BACK FROM LUNCH WITH BARRY.  I THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE A "LOVELY" LUNCH.  NO, HE WANTED A CHEESE STEAK WITH FRIED ONIONS AND PEPPERS--AS ONLY PHILLY CAN PRODUCE.  SO, BEING THE DUTIFUL WIFE, I FORCED MYSELF. :bigsmile :angel

MAH JONGG CANNOT BE PLAYED HERE.  SORRY, JOHANNA.  IT IS WAY TOO  COMPLICATED AND WHAT IS ONLINE AS A GAME, JUST ISN'T IT.  IT IS KIND OF LIKE GIN WITH TILES AND PREDETERMINED PATTERNS THAT HAVE TO BE COMPLETED.  I LOVE IT.  MARION DOESN'T    :naughty

FRANKIE---A NEW PUPPY.  FOR A KID.  SO EXCITING.  SO CUTE.  SO MUCH WORK.  BUT I AM HAPPY THEY ARE RESCUING A DOG.  WE DID THAT WITH LOUIE AND SAMMIE.  IT FEELS GOOD TO SAVE 2 LIVES. 

THE JBT WAS WONDERFUL FUN.  REALLY FUN.  PROBABLY THE LAST TIME OTHER THAN SPAMALOT THAT NO ONE WAS DISAPPOINTED ABOUT ANYTHING.  MYSELF, I DIDN'T LIKE THE JNT(VIGNETTES) OR LAST CHRISTMAS.  I MISSED CLAY'S PERSONALITY.  BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I ADORED EVERY CONCERT SERIES.  LAST SUMMER WILL ALWAYS HOLD A SPECIAL PLACE BECAUSE I MET HIM AND ALMOST EVERYONE WHO WANTED ONE GOT A PERSONAL HANDSHAKE SECOND WITH CLAY.  I ALSO LOVED CHRISTMAS 2006 BECAUSE OF ALL THE BANTER.  I LOVE CLAY'S HUMOR ALMOST AS MUCH AS I LOVE HIS VOICE.

WELCOME HOME, MARION.  BOY HAVE  I MISSED YOU. :hugg  PLEASE SHARE WITH EVERYONE YOU CLAVERSION STORY.  IT IS WONDERFUL AND MANY OF US COULD USE A LIFT LIKE THAT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 25, 2008, 12:56:10 PM
I JUST READ SOMETHING AT THE CH THAT IS THE MOST BRILLIANT THING I HAVE READ IN MONTHS.  NO COMPLAINING.  NO ANGSTING.  BUT FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME A SUGGESTION ON IMAGE CHANGING FOR CLAY THAT JUST COULD WORK.  IF TC COULD MAKE IT HAPPEN.

THIS WOMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT A PEPSI COMMERCIAL WITH JT.  HOW CUTE IT WAS.  HOW GOOD HE LOOKED.  AND IT WAS SHOWN DURING A BASEBALL GAME.  SIMPLE AND BRILLIANT.  AND, AS PART OF THE COMMERCIAL WAS A WAY TO D/L JT'S MUSIC. NOW I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS COMMERCIAL.  BUT PEPSI IS ALL-AMERICAN.  NOT LIKE PIMPING SOMETHING DISGUSTING.  OH, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN.  IT COULD MAKE A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE IN CLAY'S IMAGE.

WHY CAN'T SOMETHING LIKE THIS EVER HAPPEN TO CLAY??????????

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Moonshot on July 25, 2008, 01:11:11 PM
I JUST READ SOMETHING AT THE CH THAT IS THE MOST BRILLIANT THING I HAVE READ IN MONTHS.  NO COMPLAINING.  NO ANGSTING.  BUT FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME A SUGGESTION ON IMAGE CHANGING FOR CLAY THAT JUST COULD WORK.  IF TC COULD MAKE IT HAPPEN.

THIS WOMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT A PEPSI COMMERCIAL WITH JT.  HOW CUTE IT WAS.  HOW GOOD HE LOOKED.  AND IT WAS SHOWN DURING A BASEBALL GAME.  SIMPLE AND BRILLIANT.  AND, AS PART OF THE COMMERCIAL WAS A WAY TO D/L JT'S MUSIC. NOW I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS COMMERCIAL.  BUT PEPSI IS ALL-AMERICAN.  NOT LIKE PIMPING SOMETHING DISGUSTING.  OH, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN.  IT COULD MAKE A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE IN CLAY'S IMAGE.

WHY CAN'T SOMETHING LIKE THIS EVER HAPPEN TO CLAY??????????

GWENN

Because Pepsi is considered "hip" and Clay isn't. Here is the Pepsi Superbowl ad with Justin:

Justin Pepsi commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLcgFo0CPss)

There's another version that includes a NASCAR driver that runs over Justin at the end.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 25, 2008, 01:16:34 PM
I KNOW, MICHELLE.  BUT SOMETHING---MAYBE NOT PEPSI, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD.  SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN.  I AM SOOOOOOO EXHAUSTED FROM CLAY BEING A JOKE.  HE IS A GOOD MAN.  HE DOESN'T DESERVE THIS CRAP.  AND A COMMERCIAL IS SUCH A POSITIVE SUBLIMINAL WAY.  SOMEONE IN ADVERTISING HAS TO LIKE CLAY. 

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 25, 2008, 01:35:57 PM


                              TO BAD ONE OF US COULD NOT WRITE A COMMERCIAL FOR HIM,HE IS A GOOD MAN, I MISS HIM, I LOVE HIM, I AM CRAZY .OH WELL IT STARTED 5 YEARS AGO TO LATE TO CHANGE NOW I POSE.

                               I SEE NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT JT. NO SPECIAL VOICE, NO SPECIAL SNARK, BUT I AM NOT COOL EITHER SO CLAY AND ME MAKE A GREAT PAIR I GUESS.

                         BET THIS CRAP BOTHERS US MORE THAN IT DOES CLAY,NOT THAT IT DOESN'T HURT    I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE CAN BE SO CRUEL, MUST BE THE MONEY, GLAD I AM POOR, I JUST LIED. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 25, 2008, 01:47:58 PM
THERE IS 'ALOT ' THAT COULD BE DONE FOR CLAY TO GET HIM OUT IN THE PUBLIC EYE.....BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT EITHER CLAY DOESN'T WANT ANY MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE GETTING ALREADY.....OR.....THE PEOPLE HE HAS HIRED AS 'TEAM CLAY' ARE LEADING HIM ASTRAY BECAUSE 'THEY' DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND HE DOESN'T EVEN REALISE IT......AND IS JUST GOING WITH THE FLOW THINKING THAT THIS IS ALL HE GETS.....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 25, 2008, 02:04:36 PM
  Frankie,
             I know what you mean about the air of sadness, it"s just there. Just watched the
       Hard Rock concert in Orlando on DVD , it was a great concert, I was there. Watching
        the DVD and remembering the wonderful time made me cry. Foolish , I suppose.
             By the way we need to keep checking in on the AOL , Clay has dropped to no. 3,
                      VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!
                                                                      betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 25, 2008, 02:54:07 PM
THERE IS 'ALOT ' THAT COULD BE DONE FOR CLAY TO GET HIM OUT IN THE PUBLIC EYE.....BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT EITHER CLAY DOESN'T WANT ANY MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE GETTING ALREADY.....OR.....THE PEOPLE HE HAS HIRED AS 'TEAM CLAY' ARE LEADING HIM ASTRAY BECAUSE 'THEY' DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND HE DOESN'T EVEN REALISE IT......AND IS JUST GOING WITH THE FLOW THINKING THAT THIS IS ALL HE GETS.....

LINDA  -  Excellent point.  :clap :clap

I have the same concerns about "opportunities lost" when it comes to PR for Clay.  I have wondered often if Team Clay includes anyone with strong management skills or a skilled publicist (during the positive and the negative periods in Clay's career).

Of course, the "key" is Clay.  Perhaps he is content with how things are going career-wise.  He does surround himself with friends, but one would hope that there would be some influence from someone who can be "objective".   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 25, 2008, 04:27:43 PM

                               I SEE NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT JT. NO SPECIAL VOICE, NO SPECIAL SNARK

I agree with you, Glory. I don't really get the big deal with JT. He doesn't have much of a voice. What he does have is mostly electronically produced. And I don't see much personality there, either. Ego, sure. Personality? Not so much.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 25, 2008, 04:33:51 PM
THERE IS 'ALOT ' THAT COULD BE DONE FOR CLAY TO GET HIM OUT IN THE PUBLIC EYE.....BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT EITHER CLAY DOESN'T WANT ANY MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE GETTING ALREADY.....OR.....THE PEOPLE HE HAS HIRED AS 'TEAM CLAY' ARE LEADING HIM ASTRAY BECAUSE 'THEY' DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND HE DOESN'T EVEN REALISE IT......AND IS JUST GOING WITH THE FLOW THINKING THAT THIS IS ALL HE GETS.....

Interesting point. If I had to guess, I'd say it was Clay's call. I wonder if he's concerned about getting eaten alive by the business. You know, chewed up and spit out, so to speak. He pretty much was consumed by it that first couple of years. I think he didn't like that (not to say he should have), and made a great effort to, as he said, "take back my life." I think he doesn't want to get "in too deep," because he could lose control of his life again.

Like I know anything. :shrug


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: HavinaClayAffair on July 25, 2008, 04:56:03 PM
I have read a few pages back....

keep thinking to myself...."Self? IS Clay marketable? IS there somewhere he can be Clay, be succesful and recognized as a talent?"

Of course, I come back with an answer of "Yes!".

BUT- Recorded music doesn't SEEM to be it.

Remember those fantastic views of the crowd at the (correct me locals) RBC Center- right after AI?

Cheers and clapping and LARGE amounts of people touched by Clay Aiken. Hometown guy. Southern charm, Fantastic voice. Kinda cute, in his own way....they showed up and cheered that man until he cried on stage.

I STILL can tear up, on a good day, when I see either that photo, or video image. (A clip is someones avatar on here)

What happened? What changed?

People are fickle, they move on, for one.

Clay changed. he has changed his looks many times, he is MUCH more snarky in person than was ever imagined to be or PORTRAYED to be on AI...

maybe he personally, when NOT COMPETING against someone that others may personally dislike more than Clay- maybe he just didn't cut the mustard for them after all. The competition was over.

Maybe some of those people were swept up in the moment. The moment is gone.

Those that were left were those that felt a personal connection to him, whether living near or far.

As time passed, and "things" surfaced, true or untrue, those connections that people felt at those moments- may have gone.

The thing is, his TALENT has not gone anywhere. His voice is still good..but- and I say this not so lightly...I loved when his voice was bigger....if that is a way to put it. This is the Night, big. Bridge Over Troubled Water big. Demo songs Big- like I Know How the River Feels.

Seems THAT voice is only captured from time to time...maybe Lover All Alone, Solitaire. etc.

I know we wanted him to be the "be all that ends all" kind of guy, something for everyone, but it truly is just not the case.

I sometimes miss, Big Voiced Clay...I think his niche has been lost.

What Clay was known for. Chills...he gave me chills, and on the new CD, sorry- no chills for any of the songs, with the exception of maybe Lover All Alone, because of the type of song that it is.

I realize I am all over this post, but Clay just can't be what he isn't.

i think of Jim Neighbors...funny sort of man- nice man, good actor, paid the bills acting but behind the scenes, that man had (has?) an awesome voice. Who'd a thunk it...?

but they didn't take him mainstream and make him John Denver in the day...and yet- he has many albums out. Recognizable by his VOICE, not the type of song he chose to sing-

I just hope his fantastic talent is not wasted by trying to make him "popular".

I, too, miss him.

Lora


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 25, 2008, 05:17:46 PM
Hi Everyone...Well I've finally calmed down after my little e-mail message from WRAL yesterday.

What was so funny was that my horoscope for today was...Life is like a roller coaster and contains a    series of ups & downs.Because some of your passions are temporarily frustrated, you  may feel down in the dumps for a few hours.         They sure got that right....

I told Rebecca,(7 yrs old) that the radio station had decided not to play Clay anymore,and her comment was...

Well! They're just plain mean, you just need to tell them we're not listening to them anymore.  Clay is a special star,and he sings real good...so thats our finally word to them.

Don't you just know the radio station would love that one...Be afraid, very afraid of Rebecca, or she will come get you.  :para    She is pretty smart though, for a 7 yr old.     However being a typical 7yr old ,she then said she was going to send a gargoyle to the station and eat them all... :lol



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on July 25, 2008, 05:22:39 PM
Wow -- havinaclayaffair -- a thoughtful post.  Re the appearance, I think Clay's best look is the latest -- as in the UNICEF photos -- and this may be "the real he" -- the way he looks when someone isn't designing his latest public persona.  (Someone recently observed that the promo photos for the latest CD looked like they were intended to give Clay a sexually ambivalent appearance, or were styled by a gay guy.)  Although I miss Clay's big voice, and wished there were some of that on this CD, I also really enjoy this range and this pop voice -- what a contrast to the MOAM pop voice. 

I think Clay has worked very hard, but I always feel like he's swimming upstream.  Someone once said that "talent is a glut on the market," and we all know it's true.  But when it comes to singing, I think that Clay has something more than talent: I think he has a very unique and distinctive quality to his voice which makes him one of a kind.  When you hear about the careers of other performers, their popularity waxes and wanes -- and some who lose ground later rebound.  I think that RCA decided what niche Clay was going to be in and did their best to keep him there -- i.e. in one where he wouldn't reach out to new audiences and age groups, compete with the new emerging Idol and other talents.  Yet I think things could turn on a dime for him.  Something as simple as having a knock-out song in a terrific film could reintroduce him to whole new audiences. 

He is who he is -- his private life will always come before his public life, but I think fans should not mourn his demise anytime soon.  I think he's going places.

What JT has is hetero cred.  Now, we all know that Clay is far sexier than JT (whom many of us probably don't find sexy at all, even if he wants to bring sexy back).  But Clay appeals to women, and to women of all ages...  JT is into sports -- he's been a TV guest sportscaster, it seems to me. Then JT gets into the tabloids with his celebrity girlfriends -- winning the chick lottery, another guy sport.  No wonder they're gonna use him for commercials at sports events.  He's a (shallow if not a thinking) guy's kinda guy -- and the recording industry targets the bulk of its marketing to young men.  Clay has sex appeal that JT can't even begin to imagine, but that makes Clay seem like a ladies' man (and therefore a rival worthy of jealousy or disdain) -- and not yet a man's man, but this will change.  My bet's on the Sagitarian (archer/spear thrower). 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 25, 2008, 05:40:24 PM

                      THE OTHER DAY I WAS WATCHING CLAY'S EYES TEARING UP AT THE RBC CENTER COULDN'T HELP BUT TEAR UP TO.

                       I MISS THE GLORY NOTES FORGET I EVER KNEW YOU HAS ONE THAT HAS BECOME MY FAVORITE SONG.

                     LIKE SUNNY SAID MAYBE CLAY IS CONTENT WITH HIS LIFE GOING BACK A COUPLE YEARS MAY NOT BE GOOD FOR HIM I DON'T WANT TO SEE HIM ON PAXIL AGAIN.

                   I THINK CLAY IS AN OLD SOUL DOES NOT WANT TO GO THE WAY OTHERS HAVE GONE IN THE BUSINESS JUST WANTS TO BE HIMSELF NOT A CARBON COPY OF HIP HOP. I THINK HIS FANS MAY WANT THE HUGE CAREER MORE THAN HE DOES. I HOPE HE IS HAPPY AND CONTENT IN WHATEVER PATH HE CHOOSES TO FOLLOW.

                SOMETIMES I THINK OF HIM AS A FRIEND RATHER THAN A CELEBRITY BECAUSE I VOTED FOR HIM OVER AND OVER, ITS VERY PERSONEL TO ME, MAYBE IT SHOULDN'T BE BUT I
 WON'T APOLIGIZE FOR MY FEELING BECAUSE THEY ARE REAL IF ONLY TO ME.


                  I HAVE LAUGHED SO HARD AT HIS SNARK AND CRIED AT HIS BEING THE BRUNT OF TABLOIDS AND MEANESS WHICH HE DID NOT DESERVE. I STILL GET CHILLS WHEN I HEAR SOME OF HIS SONGS,I GET FRUSTRATED WITH HIM TO.WITH SOME REMARKS I HAVE HEARD HIM SAY JUST WANT TO SMACK HIM UPSIDE THE HEAD AND TELL HIM TO HUSH, BUT THATS BECAUSE I CARE OTHERWISE I WOULDN'T GIVE A HOOT.

                       I MISS HIM TERRIBLY AND PRAY WHEN HIS VACATION.IS OVER THAT HE HAS SOMETHING PLANNED,


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 25, 2008, 05:40:38 PM
However being a typical 7yr old ,she then said she was going to send a gargoyle to the station and eat them all... :lol

That'll show 'em! :thumb


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 25, 2008, 05:49:07 PM
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I THINK HIS FANS MAY WANT THE HUGE CAREER MORE THAN HE DOES.

I think you're right, Glory.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 25, 2008, 05:58:22 PM



                              GOSH SUNNY I HAVE GOTTEN TWO AGREEMENTS FROM YOU TODAY WHATS UP WITH THAT. :roflmao :roflmao WE MAY SHARE A BRAIN AFTER ALL :para NAY YOU ARE MUCH SMARTER THAN ME.

                              BECCA CALLED THE TY=ROD ON HER CAR IS SHOT I TOLD HER TO HAVE IT LOOKED AT PRONTO.SMART KID SHE ACTUALLY LISTENED THIS TIME.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 25, 2008, 06:02:29 PM
mainer:
"My bet's on the Sagitarian"

Yeah!   :clap

I think Sunny really spoke of something internal with Clay...speculation though it is by all of us... I think Clay's initial immersion in this business was a pretty scary 'descent' if you will...and if he had to curb how big a star he became to take back his life...well, that was just the way it goes.  

Again...just my vibe on this...I think Clay's first priority is to keep his values intact...and he accomplishes that and stays grounded by his humanitarian outreach.  From the get go, he spoke of the more 'existential' goals he had for himself...and I am relieved that he has stubbornly clung to his core values throughout all the hoopla.  How refreshing and heartwarming!  I do believe it is still possible for Clay to emerge out from being the 'joke'...and I think that time is drawing near. I am quite a believer in the old adage: "Good things come to those who wait."

Gwenn...I get a kick out of you  :hugg ...and from your posts I've come to believe that we probably enjoy many of the same things...via your book comments etc... thus my newly hatched interest in Mah Jongg, which I unclearly spoke of in my earlier post. I finally looked the game up on the net to get more of a clue about it... my hope is to gather people here  :wink in my So Cal community to play it.  :smile  I'll keep you posted on how I fare.  If it is a game of almost pure strategy - logic...I'll probably adore it...and I need a fix that isn't caloric...or expensive...while I drop the 'L B's as Jack Black stated on that cute Clay/Leno appearance in May.

ETA:  Oops...one of the things I meant to post about...woohoo...I found some bookcases at bargain prices to day...and why did I need them right now... ah yes...my Clay treasures are overflowing the large basket I allocated for them... now I've got a special place to keep all of my tour books and momentos.  The hard parts ahead of me...deciding what I'll pass on to new Clay fans...just can't keep it all!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 25, 2008, 06:06:12 PM

                              GOSH SUNNY I HAVE GOTTEN TWO AGREEMENTS FROM YOU TODAY WHATS UP WITH THAT. :roflmao :roflmao WE MAY SHARE A BRAIN AFTER ALL :para

Could be. Mine sure ain't whole. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 25, 2008, 06:06:19 PM
   
Glory,
        I think one of your slaps across the head might work, but I truly believe Clay finds
     his soul  and true happiness working with, and helping children in need. That is his true calling
      but he needs to make money to be able to pursue it. A talent like his should not be wasted.
                                     
                                                                  Betty
                                             


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 25, 2008, 06:29:01 PM
I really love to come here and read the posts from all of you.  It is great that we can discuss the lack of what is going on right now without going over the deep end.  Most of you are much better writers than I can ever be and express yourselves so well. 

Do I wish the new CD had sold better -- of course

Do I wish Clay got more respect from the music world in general -- definitely

Do I wish radio would give Clay a chance -- certainly

Do I think TC and RCA could help promote Clay better -- you betcha

Do I think Clay wants success on his own terms -- yes, and while I would love to see him be hugely popular, I certainly do not want him to become a prisoner of that popularity and have to become a hermit like Elvis.

Do I think Clay will come back to entertain us -- absolutely (because I want to believe it so badly) he loves entertainlng and while he has said he could go back to being a teacher, I don't think he is ready to do that yet

Do I think Clay has made some very influential friends that will eventually help his career -- we all know he has

Do I hope Clay comes back to us soon --  without a doubt because I'm not getting any younger and I want to see him many more times while I still can.


I'm a Clay Aiken fan so I will support his career and his humanitarian work.  I will leave the choice of how he conducts his personal life to him and hope that he will be very happy.  A happy Clay will certainly make for great performances and whatever else he has in store for us.







Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 25, 2008, 06:30:25 PM
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Thea - Try this : My Page

I just did, MEESA...and it worked!!!!  So happy to see that you and Sir Robin are getting along so well now that you're roommates!   :wink :hugg

Hi ladies!

Wouldn't you know you all decide to get your cyber mouths into high gear when I leave for a few hours???  :blah  Great discussion, but far too much for me to absorb this evening.  I'll try to go back to reread tomorrow when I am a bit more coherant.  :bduh

MARION, I'm so happy you're back!  I've missed you and your posts, so much, Birthday Girl.  :hugg  Hope you enjoyed yourself out in CA!

I'm off for the night.  I'm getting to old for all of this "partying"!   :lol  :ghug :dust





Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 25, 2008, 06:35:23 PM
... speaking for myself,  it seems my entire life I have been "swimming upstream" anyway ,  so whatever...I'm used to it by now. 

'Bet it's made you a strong swimmer. :wink

Awwww, that's so true on so many levels , SUNNY.  :hugg Your words are very, very wise and so applicable to anybody going through trials at various times in their lives.  I'm so grateful right now to be able to backfloat at least for a short while!!!!   :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 25, 2008, 07:17:52 PM



                                 SEEM LIKE I AM ALWAYS SWIMMING UPHILL EVERYBODY DOES ONE TIME OR ANOTHER  I THINK THATS WHAT MAKES US WHO WE ARE OCCASIONALLY I WOULD NOT HAVE TO SWIM SO HARD, IT GET TIRING. BUT AS LONG AS I AM ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE DIRT ,LIFE IS GOOD. :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on July 25, 2008, 07:26:06 PM
Brief mention of Clay on  Entertainment Tonight  (http://www.etonline.com/news/2008/07/63764/index.html)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 25, 2008, 07:35:39 PM
BACK FROM A WONDERFUL EVENING.  DINNER AND MAH JONGG.  I DID JUST FINE.  JOHANNA---I HOPE YOU GET A GAME TOGETHER.  IT IS LOGIC AND PLANNING AND LUCK.  I LOVE IT.  I WATCHED MY GRANDMOTHER, MY MOM AND ALL THEIR FRIENDS PLAY.  IT IS IN THE BLOOD.

GOTTA GET SOME SLEEP.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 25, 2008, 07:41:10 PM
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BUT AS LONG AS I AM ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE DIRT ,LIFE IS GOOD.


More pearls of wisdom, GLORY!   :lmao Keep 'em coming, O Wise One!   :notworthy

GWENN, I'm hoping maybe some of the Chinese ladies on the cruise ship will allow me to watch them play Mah Johngg.  Every cruise I've ever taken has had a group of dedicated Mah Johngg players on board!!!

OK,  now I'm off to bed.  Just exhausted.  'Night all!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 25, 2008, 07:57:03 PM
BACK FROM A WONDERFUL EVENING.  DINNER AND MAH JONGG.  I DID JUST FINE.  JOHANNA---I HOPE YOU GET A GAME TOGETHER.  IT IS LOGIC AND PLANNING AND LUCK.  I LOVE IT.  I WATCHED MY GRANDMOTHER, MY MOM AND ALL THEIR FRIENDS PLAY.  IT IS IN THE BLOOD.

GOTTA GET SOME SLEEP.

GWENN

Glad you had a lovely evening out, Gwenn!  The following is a bit OT... I took a bit of time to share a story... oops!

My siblings and I used to play chess during all the warm summers when I was a child...no air conditioning then...and so we played marathon rounds of board games.  My eldest brother assumed the role of 'rec' leader and didn't cut us any slack in spite of being 4 + years older than the rest of us... :lol...he managed the assignments for erector sets, clue and yeah...chess.  His competitive ways held me in good sted. Later, when I was trying to impress a handsome...oh my...violinist in my college days, this musician mentioned that he played tournament chess at the state level.  Well, I just had to connect with this young man however I could...and I did love chess... :lol...we ended up playing a game of it in the student lounge...he'll never got over it...I almost beat him...oh no!...to conclude a too long story...he was the first of my marriage proposals.  Now that I'm no longer that young gal, I am just looking to enjoy great company and activities...and many of my hobbies are a little too isolating...reading, piano, needlepoint.  So...I'm going to look into this game you love. - a good way to enjoy the 'Clay wait'...!

Yeah Glory...you are on the right side of dirt!...too funny, Clay friend!  And Barbara...you can write, girlfriend!...your post was articulate and said it all.  Thea...maybe tomorrow will be an R and R day for you and Phil...after many very busy times...


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 25, 2008, 08:28:40 PM
 :wave

TBAF does not have a clue. Shirl was told to call today to see if they were going to have a method of selling tickets for someone with no computer (they aren't). Shirl spoke to "Christy" (no last name), who told her she was sure that no one would have problems getting Gala tickets - she is sure there are enough to go around. She seemed surprised when Shirl told her that many Clay fans were going to try for tickets.  Who are these people that are the "Team" around him - and what planet do they live on?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 25, 2008, 08:44:14 PM
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Who are these people that are the "Team" around him - and what planet do they live on?

It seems like a lot of them are family members or old friends--people he feels he can "trust." But not necessarily anyone with the education or experience to run a not-for-profit organization successfully.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 25, 2008, 09:15:08 PM
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Who are these people that are the "Team" around him - and what planet do they live on?

It seems like a lot of them are family members or old friends--people he feels he can "trust." But not necessarily anyone with the education or experience to run a not-for-profit organization successfully.

WE....EELLL, I WILL JUST HAVE TO GO DOWN THERE AND STRAIGHTEN THEM OUT, WON'T I???
I SURE WOULD LOVE TO WORK FOR A PLACE LIKE THAT-AND I THINK THEY NEED SOMEONE OF MY SKILLS (hahahahahahahahaha!!)
ONLY I THINK CLAY MAY HAVE TO HIDE-

I DONT KNOW- GUESS I HAVE HAD SO MUCH ANGST AND DEPRESSION AND DOWNERS THE LAST TWO YEAR THAT THE PESSIMIST VESSEL IN ME IS EMPTY. ALL I KNOW IS WHENEVER I SEE A PICTURE OF CLAY, HEAR HIS VOICE SINGING, AND THE MEMORIES ARE TRIGGERED, I JUST SMILE THE BIGGEST SMILE AND MY HEART SWELLS WITH HAPPINESS. CLAY MAY BE TAKING A VACATION, RESTOKING HIS ENGINES, AND  HE MAY BE RETHINKING HIS OPTIONS, BUT HE WILL BE BACK, --MAKE NO MISTAKE- AND I WILL BET HE HAS THINGS GOING ON THAT NO ONE KNOWS YET-CAREER THINGS.

HE IS NOT ONE TO SIT BACK AND TAKE IT EASY FOR TOO LONG. THE MAN CANNOT EVEN SIT ON A STOOL AND TALK TO FOLKS WITHOUT THOSE LONG FINGERS ON THE STRONG HANDS RUBBING UP AND DOWN HIS THIGHS, PLAYING WITH HIS PANTS, HIS SOCKS, HIS SHOES, THAT LUCKY DANG MICROPHONE............UM, WHERE WAS I???       


OH!! YES, HE SURPRISED US WITH SPAMALOT-SOMETHING TOTALLY OUT OF THE ORDINARY AND OUT OF THE AREA IN WHICH WE KNEW HIM SO WELL- AND IT WAS A MAJOR SUCCESS FOR HIM. DIANE SAWYER SAID SO. AND HE MADE SOME INFLUENTIAL FRIENDS OR CONNECTIONS. I REALLY THINK OTHER THINGS ARE IN THE WORKS. HOWEVER, I AM STILL HOPING FOR A TOUR IN THE FALL OR EARLY SPRING. I AM HOPING FOR A NEW SINGLE THAT WILL BE HEARD BY MANY AND THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE SURPRISED AT THE VERSATILITY OF CLAY.

HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL.......I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED. LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO WORRY OVER THINGS WE CANNOT CONTROL (EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES I WISH I COULD). CLAYS CAREER IS ONE OF THEM. WHEN HE TALKED TO MO AT BENIHANA, HE SAID HE LIKED WHAT HE WAS DOING. HE HAS SAID MANY TIMES THAT HE LOVES SINGING AND HE IS MOST COMFORTABLE ON THE STAGE-NEVER NERVOUS.

I AM GOING TO KEEP MY ROSE COLORED GLASSES ON- THEY MAKE THINGS MUCH CLEARER TO ME!!! LET CLAY HAVE HIS VACATION, AND IF THERE IS SOMETHING PERSONAL FOR HIM TO CELEBRATE, THEN I WISH HIM THE UTMOST JOY. AND THEN ITS OUR TURN!!  :smile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 25, 2008, 09:18:52 PM
CAN'T SLEEP.  JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH MARION.  SO MUCH TO CATCH UP ON.

WHAT PLANET ARE THOSE PEOPLE ON?  NO CLAY IN THE NEAR FUTURE.  PEOPLE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS TO SEE HIM.  ARE THEY CRAZY?  AND IS THE KRISTY SHE SPOKE TO CLAY'S KRISTY?  IF SO, SHE SHOULD KNOW BETTER.

I CANNOT STAND THIS.  SOMETHING ABOUT THIS MAN BETTER START BEING EASY.  RIGHT NOW, MEN ARE ANNOYING.  MINE INCLUDED.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 25, 2008, 09:37:35 PM
CAN'T SLEEP.  JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH MARION.  SO MUCH TO CATCH UP ON.

WHAT PLANET ARE THOSE PEOPLE ON?  NO CLAY IN THE NEAR FUTURE.  PEOPLE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS TO SEE HIM.  ARE THEY CRAZY?  AND IS THE KRISTY SHE SPOKE TO CLAY'S KRISTY?  IF SO, SHE SHOULD KNOW BETTER.

I CANNOT STAND THIS.  SOMETHING ABOUT THIS MAN BETTER START BEING EASY.  RIGHT NOW, MEN ARE ANNOYING.  MINE INCLUDED.

GWENN

HEY, AT LEAST YOU HAVE ONE!!  :lmao

AND MAYBE THATS WHY I AM NOT ANGSTING. JUST MYSELF TO WORRY ABOUT!

GWENN......... :hugg :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 25, 2008, 09:48:00 PM
CAN'T SLEEP.  JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH MARION.  SO MUCH TO CATCH UP ON.

WHAT PLANET ARE THOSE PEOPLE ON?  NO CLAY IN THE NEAR FUTURE.  PEOPLE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS TO SEE HIM.  ARE THEY CRAZY?  AND IS THE KRISTY SHE SPOKE TO CLAY'S KRISTY?  IF SO, SHE SHOULD KNOW BETTER.

I CANNOT STAND THIS.  SOMETHING ABOUT THIS MAN BETTER START BEING EASY.  RIGHT NOW, MEN ARE ANNOYING.  MINE INCLUDED.
GWENN

HEY, AT LEAST YOU HAVE ONE!!  :lmao
AND MAYBE THATS WHY I AM NOT ANGSTING. JUST MYSELF TO WORRY ABOUT!

GWENN......... :hugg :hugg

 :giggle   :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 25, 2008, 10:02:12 PM
Fall Preview - TV

Some here might see this as a Clay opportunity...it's reported in ET Weekly that Rosie O is getting a variety show on NBC in the fall.  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: HavinaClayAffair on July 26, 2008, 04:39:04 AM
Fall Preview - TV

Some here might see this as a Clay opportunity...it's reported in ET Weekly that Rosie O is getting a variety show on NBC in the fall.  

and some might see that as aligning with the wrong forces...

I, personally, seem to know more people that loathe Rosie, than love her...

I am in the undecided camp.

Has nothing to do with her sexuality and has everything to do with what comes spewing from her face.


She seems a good person with a piercing personality.

I liked her a lot in the Stakeout movie, though!! Cracked me UP!

Lora


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: HavinaClayAffair on July 26, 2008, 04:40:18 AM
Thanks Beth for ET link.

hated the headline....

"Photo Op"...

kiss my photogenic butt.

Lora


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 26, 2008, 04:51:07 AM
MORNING--

OFF TO MY NIECE'S FOR THE DAY.  I LOVE IT THERE.  LIKE BEING ON VACATION.  THE MOST GLORIOUS VIEW.  NICE POOL.

AS FOR ET---PHOTO OP MY BUTT. 

ROSIE---I SAW THAT, JOHANNA.  COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE CAROL BURNETT WITH AN ENSEMBLE THERE EVERY WEEK.  I COULD LIVE WITH THAT.  CHANCE FOR CLAY'S MUSIC TO BE HEARD.  SHE HAS A BIG MOUTH BUT ALSO A BIG HEART.  I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT HER PERSONAL LIFE.  I HAVE THE FEELING MOST CELEBRITIES' LIVES ARE NUTS.  I GUESS IT COMES WITH THE TERRITORY. WITH SO MUCH MONEY AND CLOUT, YOU LOSE SIGHT OF HOW "NORMAL" PEOPLE LIVE. 

GOTTA RUN.  LATER.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 26, 2008, 07:54:14 AM
Watched Paula Dean last night.  Rosie was a guest.  Now, those of you who know me, know I have a big mouth.......but, lordy, that woman did nothing but scream.  Paula was pretty loud, too.  I actually had to turn the TV down.  What irked me the most is that while in the middle of the show, she pulled her book out and promoted it.  No lead it, nothing.  Just pulled the book out, held it up, and said she wanted to take this opportunity to promote her book.  It was a WTF moment for sure!  Clay content.....when is Clay going to be on Paula Dean's show? 

Welcome back, Marion!  I'd love to hear about your trip.  Tell us about your Clayversion.  I always love those stories. 

A commercial for Clay?  Interesting thought.  I'm not sure what Clay would promote. McDonald's? Kraft Mac & Cheese? Applebees?  I just don't see him interested in endorsing anything, (but what do I know) nor do I see companies seeking him out.  He's just not cool enough, and I mean that in the nicest way.  I could see using his songs in commercials.  I'm still hoping someone uses On My Way Here in an Olympic commercial......like Korea did.  Actually, a commercial for Unicef or promoting litericy in children and/or adults, something along those lines would be perfect! 

Speaking of nostalgia, I decided to listen to the Atlantic City JBT while driving to work the other day.  The whole concert.....banter and all!  I forgot how truly amazing that tour was.  It remains my favorite to this day.  God, how I long for those days again!  Come back, Clay!     

I have no plans on attending the gala, so no ticket stress for me (though I long for the day.....never thought I'd say that).  If anyone needs help with tickets, I'd be happy to give it a shot.  With Clay not appearing anywhere for God knows how long, I think it's going to be difficult.  Good luck to all who are trying! 

Though I haven't been posting much lately, I do enjoy reading everyone's thoughts.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claymate27 on July 26, 2008, 08:07:40 AM
 :wave :wave

Happy Saturday..hope your day is restful... :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 26, 2008, 02:29:01 PM



                                   SURE IS QUIET HERE WHERE IS EVERYBODY.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 26, 2008, 03:45:14 PM
hi everyone


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 26, 2008, 05:31:37 PM
BACK FROM MY NIECE'S.  WE HAD A DELIGHTFUL DAY.  GORGEOUS WEATHER, AND AS I SAID, HER BACKYARD IS LIKE A RESORT.  LOTS OF FUN PEOPLE.  LOTS OF GOOD FOOD.  TONS OF CRABS.  WE HAD SO MUCH FUN.

NO CLAY CONTENT TO ADD.  WISH I HAD SOMETHING.   :slick

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 26, 2008, 06:08:36 PM
Hi Everybody

I just spent a great evening at The North Raleigh Country Club where my boss , his wife & Rebecca treated my husband & I to dinner for my birthday...

The sad thing is as we were leaving Rebecca told us she was feeling low(she has type 1 diabetes)and she sat down on the wallway because she was to weak to stand. After checking her B/S she had dropped to 37 which is dangereously low ...She was so weak she couldn't even chew her sugar tablets...Kevin & Roger(my D/H) ran in an got a coke for her and after a while she was feeling well enough to go set on the steps...Talk about scary...that was scary !  It got kind of exciting because a wedding party pulled up in a big limo for a reception at The club,and that kind of helped get Rebeccas attention away from feeling bad...Shes OK now...Its amazing how fast it all happened.

During dinner my boss gave me a present ...it was $250.00..He said he hoped I would have fun spending it and that I would get me something special.  So I told him that was the exact amount I needed for a ticket to the Gala...We ended up talking a great deal about it(He got my tickets for me last year) He is a big supporter of the JDRF(juvinelle diabetes foundation) and always sponsors a table when they have their Gala event...He said that he would have been happy to sponsor a table for $2,500.00 for me, if there would have been 8 people at the table ,but he thought a $5000.00 table for 5 was awful....so I will be patiently trying to get my $250.00 ticket on Monday with about a couple of thousand other people.    :bang    :stress

Today I switched my radio off from WRAL( I'm such a spoil sport)and just listened to Mr Aiken to my hearts content...why waste my time waiting to hear Clay on the radio ,when I know it is'nt going to happen.

Hope you have all had a restful day and will continue to have a great weekend.

Marlene


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 26, 2008, 06:26:30 PM
Marlene - Glad Rebecca is okay.  :hugg

I just returned from my class reunion. I sat at a table with my best friend from grade school clear thru high school. After a bit, two guys from my class and their wives sat with us. People said hi to us, but NOBODY asked about how we've been all this time or anything. It felt like high school all over again.  :para Wow. So here I am. I know you all won't ignore me.

Frankie - I had a nice talk with Shirl again this morning.

Hopefully we will all get our tickets for the gala this time!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 26, 2008, 06:38:27 PM


                             MEESA SORRY ABOUT THE REUNION PEOPLE CAN BE RUDE SOMETIMES. :hugg :hugg

                          MIMI SAD THAT CLAY'S HOMETOWN DOES NOT RECONIZE TALENT THEY NEED TO GIVE HIM A BREAK. :hugg I NEVER LISTEN TO RADIO.

                      GWENN GLAD YOU HAD A GOOD DAY. :hugg

                   CLAY CONTENT I MISS HIM.WONDER WHAT HE IS DOING THIS WEEKEND.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on July 26, 2008, 06:57:54 PM
Meesa, I'm so sorry to hear that your class reunion tunred out that way.  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 26, 2008, 07:01:32 PM
WELL, I HATE CLASS REUNIONS.  I KNOW LOTS OF FOLKS LIKE THEM BUT I DON'T.    I WENT TO MY 10TH.  NO ONE KNEW WHO I WAS CAUSE I DYED MY HAIR BLOND AND LOST 20 LBS.  THEN I WENT TO MY 25TH AND ONLY ONE PERSON I REALLY CARED ABOUT WAS THERE.  SO, NOW I DON'T EVEN GIVE IT A THOUGHT.  I WASN'T ALL THAT NUTS FOR HIGH SCHOOL ANYWAY.  I WAS IN ALL HONORS CLASSES SO ALL I DID WAS STUDY.  NOT FUN.  MEESA--SORRY IT WAS GREAT FOR YOU. :hugg

CONGRATS, MARLENE.  LET'S HOPE ALL OF US WHO WANT THEM GET GALA TIX.   :cross

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 26, 2008, 07:07:38 PM
I've been thinking and re-reading about the BAF Gala, so can someone explain to me ..if a Silver Sponsor for $5000.00 is secured half a table for 5, what does the other half pay,and who are they??? :scratch


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 26, 2008, 07:19:51 PM
Meesa~ At my class reunion (40) the ones that were still alive :lol ( :naughty me) still hung around with the same group that they did when they were in school.  It was disgusting and I'll not go to another one.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on July 26, 2008, 07:36:11 PM
That's why I only went to my 5th year reunion and not to my 10th or 20th.  I figured that I already saw the people that I was friends with.  I didn't want to spend $75 to see them when I could see them the very next day for free  :lol.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 26, 2008, 07:38:30 PM
Gwenn, glad you had a good time today.

Meesa, so sorry your reunion wasn't what you had hoped for.  Both my sons went to their 10th reunion and neither were very impressed.  Very few people they had really known in school showed up.  I was supposed to go to my 20th (only one we ever had) but my husband had to have back surgery so we didn't get to go--probably for the best anyway.  I was never part of the "in crowd" so I'm sure it would have been disappointing.

Marlene, glad you had a good dinner and congratulations on the gift.  Glad Rebecca is feeling better but I bet it was scary for a few minutes.

Hey Glory

It's been very quiet here today -- maybe it is the "calm before the storm" and we'll hear some news about something this week.

Everyone have a great Sunday


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 26, 2008, 07:40:24 PM
Beth~ You got that right, and most of them... I never want to see again  :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on July 26, 2008, 07:47:13 PM
It's been very quiet here today -- maybe it is the "calm before the storm" and we'll hear some news about something this week.

 :cross :pray :yeahthat :bump :highfive :cheers2

That doesn't appear to eager does it!?!  :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 26, 2008, 07:50:09 PM
 :wave Everybody!

MEESA, I am so very sorry you had such a bummer experience at your class reunion.  I know how much you are hurting right now, sweetie.  I'm glad you have us to talk to.   :comfort

I also had  similar experiences to yours,  GWENN, MIMI, BETH and  other.  Just like Gwenn I was in all Honors Classes which meant I studied a lot every day.  My only activities were choir and  private piano lessons (I usually practiced at least 2 hours per day).  Believe me, I was the original geekette!   :lol  (which I probably still am, to this day!!!  :lol).  

I'll never forget walking into my 10th class reunion.  I had recently married Phil (and he had a beautiful head of dark hair back then! ),  I had dropped 20 lbs from the day I graduated from HS, I had gorgeous dark straight long hair halfway down my back, wore a hot red dress with a wide black belt cinching my waist, etc.  I was so confident and glowing as I walked in, but within about 10 minutes I realized that absolutely nobody had changed over those ten years.   Phil and I stayed for about 2 hours, ate the dinner, danced a few dances, and then left. It took Phil about 3 days to put me back together emotionally after that night............ I determined that I would never return to another reunion.  And so far I haven't.  I will never bother to look back at those days ever again.

Clay content...I'll bet if he were to return to his class reunion to all of the people who made fun of him, they'd probably still be laughing at him behind his back but kissing his butt at the same time.    But look who got the last laugh!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on July 26, 2008, 07:54:25 PM
But look who got the last laugh!!!

 :yes

 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: InAweOfClay on July 26, 2008, 07:55:28 PM
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Who are these people that are the "Team" around him - and what planet do they live on?

It seems like a lot of them are family members or old friends--people he feels he can "trust." But not necessarily anyone with the education or experience to run a not-for-profit organization successfully.

WE....EELLL, I WILL JUST HAVE TO GO DOWN THERE AND STRAIGHTEN THEM OUT, WON'T I???
I SURE WOULD LOVE TO WORK FOR A PLACE LIKE THAT-AND I THINK THEY NEED SOMEONE OF MY SKILLS (hahahahahahahahaha!!)
ONLY I THINK CLAY MAY HAVE TO HIDE-

I DONT KNOW- GUESS I HAVE HAD SO MUCH ANGST AND DEPRESSION AND DOWNERS THE LAST TWO YEAR THAT THE PESSIMIST VESSEL IN ME IS EMPTY. ALL I KNOW IS WHENEVER I SEE A PICTURE OF CLAY, HEAR HIS VOICE SINGING, AND THE MEMORIES ARE TRIGGERED, I JUST SMILE THE BIGGEST SMILE AND MY HEART SWELLS WITH HAPPINESS. CLAY MAY BE TAKING A VACATION, RESTOKING HIS ENGINES, AND  HE MAY BE RETHINKING HIS OPTIONS, BUT HE WILL BE BACK, --MAKE NO MISTAKE- AND I WILL BET HE HAS THINGS GOING ON THAT NO ONE KNOWS YET-CAREER THINGS.

HE IS NOT ONE TO SIT BACK AND TAKE IT EASY FOR TOO LONG. THE MAN CANNOT EVEN SIT ON A STOOL AND TALK TO FOLKS WITHOUT THOSE LONG FINGERS ON THE STRONG HANDS RUBBING UP AND DOWN HIS THIGHS, PLAYING WITH HIS PANTS, HIS SOCKS, HIS SHOES, THAT LUCKY DANG MICROPHONE............UM, WHERE WAS I???       


OH!! YES, HE SURPRISED US WITH SPAMALOT-SOMETHING TOTALLY OUT OF THE ORDINARY AND OUT OF THE AREA IN WHICH WE KNEW HIM SO WELL- AND IT WAS A MAJOR SUCCESS FOR HIM. DIANE SAWYER SAID SO. AND HE MADE SOME INFLUENTIAL FRIENDS OR CONNECTIONS. I REALLY THINK OTHER THINGS ARE IN THE WORKS. HOWEVER, I AM STILL HOPING FOR A TOUR IN THE FALL OR EARLY SPRING. I AM HOPING FOR A NEW SINGLE THAT WILL BE HEARD BY MANY AND THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE SURPRISED AT THE VERSATILITY OF CLAY.

HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL.......I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED. LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO WORRY OVER THINGS WE CANNOT CONTROL (EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES I WISH I COULD). CLAYS CAREER IS ONE OF THEM. WHEN HE TALKED TO MO AT BENIHANA, HE SAID HE LIKED WHAT HE WAS DOING. HE HAS SAID MANY TIMES THAT HE LOVES SINGING AND HE IS MOST COMFORTABLE ON THE STAGE-NEVER NERVOUS.

I AM GOING TO KEEP MY ROSE COLORED GLASSES ON- THEY MAKE THINGS MUCH CLEARER TO ME!!! LET CLAY HAVE HIS VACATION, AND IF THERE IS SOMETHING PERSONAL FOR HIM TO CELEBRATE, THEN I WISH HIM THE UTMOST JOY. AND THEN ITS OUR TURN!!  :smile

Just WOW, Marilyn. Something told me to venture over here tonight to see what y'all were talking about and here you are reminding us of our rose-colored glasses!!! And I would bet $$$ you could straighten those people out.  :bigsmile

Meesa, so sorry about your reunion experience.  :hugg  Have to ask, though, how many were in your class? They obviously don't know our Meesa, or they would have been fighting to sit and talk and laugh with you.





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Post by: claydevotee on July 26, 2008, 07:56:10 PM
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It's been very quiet here today -- maybe it is the "calm before the storm" and we'll hear some news about something this week.

I'm kind of liking "the calm" these days.  But I think we can all do without "the storm", WILSON BARB!!!   Let's hope we can avoid any more of that for at least a while.    :please


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 26, 2008, 07:56:52 PM
BECKY, it's wonderful to see you posting over here!  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 26, 2008, 08:02:57 PM
 :wave

I had a good day watching Kaitlyn ( granddaughter) play with her new dog - she has been asking for a dog ever since she was old enough to say the word, and I'm so happy that her parents finally allowed her to have one of her own! 

Marlene - you have a great boss - good luck to you nad everyone else fighting the ticket wars on Monday.

Meesa - I am worried about you and Shirl (and everyone else) getting tickets. I volunteered to try for a ticket for her, but warned that I am not lucky at getting tickets! If her friend in California is not going to do it for her, I will try, though!  Don't worry about the renuion - I think  in many cases they are just held for the benefit of those who can't move on from high school (I know - that is awful to say!) I have always been happy that we moved so far away from Memphis that I always have an excuse not to go to mine!

The emoticons are gong crazy - wonder what caused that?!?!

 Clay content - I miss Clay! - I hope TBAF gives some more information on ticket  buying procedures (bet they won't!) I hope Clay is Happy!

Have a Good Night, everyone.................


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: InAweOfClay on July 26, 2008, 08:07:44 PM
BECKY, it's wonderful to see you posting over here!  :hugg

 :wave  Thea  Have to check up on you now and then to be sure you're behaving yourself.  :bigsmile

Unlike the rest of you posting tonight, I have not missed a class reunion. Next year will be our 50th.  :blush  All of us kids from the wrong side of the tracks still have lots of fun together and appear to have had happier lives and better careers than the previously "cool" kids have had. Bet they're not out there meeting new and special friends and galavanting around the country together and having the times of their life like we all are.




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Post by: mimi on July 26, 2008, 08:09:28 PM
Goodnight everyone

Hope you all have a restful night, and a great Sunday.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 26, 2008, 08:15:36 PM
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It's been very quiet here today -- maybe it is the "calm before the storm" and we'll hear some news about something this week.

I'm kind of liking "the calm" these days.  But I think we can all do without "the storm", WILSON BARB!!!   Let's hope we can avoid any more of that for at least a while.    :please


I guess I should have made myself a little clearer -- I was hoping for some kind of news career wise.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 26, 2008, 08:17:40 PM
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Unlike the rest of you posting tonight, I have not missed a class reunion. Next year will be our 50th.    All of us kids from the wrong side of the tracks still have lots of fun together and appear to have had happier lives and better careers than the previously "cool" kids have had. Bet they're not out there meeting new and special friends and galavanting around the country together and having the times of their life like we all are.


BECKY, you are one lucky person to have found that special group of friends from high school.  For me, looking back to those days is simply not an option.  But I'm with you on the fact that quite often it's the "not as cool" kids from H.S.  who end up better when all is said than done.  I am one of those "late bloomers" for sure, and I am blessed to have found so many wonderful friends during my college years through today!!!!   Tonight Phil and I attended a church function, and it was so amazing to discover what a small world it is and how many friends we have made over the years by moving around so much!!!  I guess we sort of had our own "class reunion" this evening!

Finally, in my mid '50's I'm starting to have the time of my life!!!   :wheee  Better late than never, for sure!!!


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Post by: claydevotee on July 26, 2008, 08:19:21 PM
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I guess I should have made myself a little clearer -- I was hoping for some kind of news career wise.

I'm definitely up for that,  as well, BARBARA!!!   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 26, 2008, 09:03:30 PM
SORRY I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BRING SOMETHING OVER FROM YOUTUBE.  BUT PLEASE LOOK AT THE VIDEO.  IT'S JUST CALLED CLAY AIKEN  - AMAZING SONG.   IT'S LISTED UNDER VIDEOS THIS WEEK.  IT'S FROM 1999.  SO YOUNG, SO SKINNY BUT WHAT A SONG WHAT A VOICE!!!  IT'S WORTH IT


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 26, 2008, 09:05:00 PM
Thanks everyone. I was a band geek, choir nerd and a page editor for the newspaper so I was not the most popular person to begin with. People were mad because I never had to study but still was in the top 10 percent of the class in high school.  :para

Becky - There were 98 students in the class of '98. You are too sweet.  :hugg

I'm trying to forget the odd evening by watching some Sterling Heights DVDs I just burned of goldarngirl and Luckiest1's best of montages.  :thud


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 26, 2008, 09:47:14 PM
Hi Folks -  I went to Mamma Mia tonight and totally enjoyed it.  Just a joyful experience.  It felt good to just smile and appreciate the music.  Such fun!  See it if you get the chance.  :bouncy

MEESA - If people at your class reunion didn't approach you . . . . they missed a chance to interact with one of the best of their classmates . . . 10 years later.  Their loss!  :hugg  Bill and I both attended the same high school and graduated the same year.  Our graduating class was only 125 students.  We have a huge percentage who attend now every 5 years.  At the earlier reunions, some people were still in the same cliques as in their Senior year.  We noted that (unfortunately) some people peaked in high school . . . and never progressed.  Others (who would have been considered shy and/or nerds) had gone forward and found their grail (sorry) and were very comfortable in their own skin . . . no matter how success is measured.  We party the night before and many of us stay in touch throughout the year.   I know of other people who do not enjoy class reunions because their classmates do not reach out, so they miss the opportunity to connect on an adult level with their former classmates.  That is sad.  "They" (the so called in-crowd) don't know what they are missing!

Clay Content:  I had all of my Clay stuff (concerts, TV shows, montages, interviews) downloaded on an external drive.  Last week, I  could not access said external drive.   Had to have computer guy take it away.  Something happened during a power surge and he wasn't sure he could retrieve my Clay stuff from the damaged drive and download it on a new one. I panicked. I think I prayed.  He consulted with an "expert".  All is well.  All of my precious clack is back.  $$$$$$$  :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: InAweOfClay on July 26, 2008, 10:41:19 PM
Barbara, that was scary.  :para

Are we supposed to have clay content in our posts here? If so, sorry. Does that fact that I'm snacking on Cinnamon Toast Crunch while posting count?  Gonna sneak back to the mansion.....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 26, 2008, 10:56:08 PM
Barbara, that was scary.  :para

Are we supposed to have clay content in our posts here? If so, sorry. Does that fact that I'm snacking on Cinnamon Toast Crunch while posting count?  Gonna sneak back to the mansion.....

BECKY - We throw in Clay content if we have some.  :blush  No strict rules . . you know, we are ALL Claymaniacs.  :smile  Eating Cinnamon Toast Crunch while posting is not only allowed . . . . it's encouraged.  :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 26, 2008, 11:14:45 PM
WASSUP, PEEPS?

BET EVERYONE IS IN BED-BUT ME, I AM A NIGHT OWL. HOWEVER, I WILL BE GOING TO BED SHORTLY- LOTS OF WORK TO DO TOMORROW!!

MEESA-THOSE PEOPLE DONT KNOW WHAT THEY MISSED. I HAVE SO MUCH FUN WHEN WE ARE TOGETHER- YOU ARE MEGA TALENTED AND YOU HAVE A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR.

I DID GO TO A COUPLE OF MY REUNIONS. SOME PEOPLE REMEMBERED ME BUT I WAS EXTREMELY SHY BACK THEN- MUCH LIKE I AM TODAY!! :bigsmile  I GUESS SOME DAY I WILL HAVE TO COME OUT OF MY SHELL!! :lol
I WAS NOT INTO SPORTS, HAD PRETTY GOOD GRADES, BUT DID NOT DATE MUCH-EXCEPT IN MY SENIOR YEAR. I WAS IN THE SENIOR PLAY- GUYS AND DOLLS- BUT THEY DIDNT GIVE ME A PART OTHER THAN DANCING BECAUSE WHEN I READ, MY ACCENT WAS TOO STRONG. OH, WELL!! SARAH BERNHARDT I AM NOT- ALTHOUGH MY MOM ALWAYS TOLD ME I WAS OVERLY DRAMATIC.

I TOO AM TRYING FOR A GALA TICKET ON MONDAY, BUT MY LUCK IS NOT GOOD FOR TICKETS TO CONCERTS- WHEN I GET GOOD ONES, ITS MOSTLY FROM EBAY OR SOMEONE GETS THEM FOR ME!! I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO VISIT RALEIGH AGAIN, SO I AM KEEPING MY FINGERS CROSSED. AFTER ALL, I DON'T WANT CLAY TO MISS ME TOO MUCH. THE POOR FELLA WOULD BE INCONSOLABLE IF I DIDNT SHOW UP.

THIS POST BROUGHT TO YOU BY..........DELUSIONS R' US!!

 :bigsmile :wave

CLARIFICATION- EXCEPT FOR THE MEESA PART- THAT IS TOTALLY TRUE!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 26, 2008, 11:39:48 PM
Meesa...  :hugg  those 'classmates' of yours missed out...you are such a warm, caring young lady...we're blessed to have you in our midst.

Oh pshaw I say to class reunions...at least my high school ones...I couldn't wait to graduate from there...my senior class had about 670 members in it...the song entitled "Invisible' is apt for most of my experience then ...college opened my life up to wonderful adventures ...24/7 gab sessions it seemed...interminable practice periods... lots of projects/papers/exams...such stimulating times they were.

Now if I could only gather my 'hootenanny buddies' together...I ran around with a guitar in college...wore the proverbial long hair - Joan Baez anyone? (hey...the late 60s you know... :blush) and the music school basement was set up with practice rooms...I'll not get into the shenanigans they facilitated...  :naughty ...there was an empty space where lounge furniture would have fit well...I'd sit on the floor there ...it was a commuter campus by and large...between classes...and sing folk songs with whomever cared to join me...and...yeah...lots of my peers came by and we would have the best sing a longs...terrific memories.

Marlene...I'm glad Rebeca came out of that OK...scary indeed...and her parents know what a gem they have in you.  

Thea...I do think if we'd gone to high school together we'd have been musical buddies...my passions...classical music (and many other kinds), fine arts, reading...loved fancy words...didn't intersect all that much with the interests of my peers...but I gratefully found kindred spirits in college...thankfully!

Mimi2...good to read your posts...do you know where we can go to hear the clip?

Gwenn...a mah jongg update for you...  :lol ...I've found a Clay fan out here whose father was an avid player...now to see if she's willing...also I checked out Amazon to see about beginners books on the game...found out about a gal who wrote one,  Elaine Sandberg, teaches locally at the American Jewish University...so Monday's task is to see when her next class begins...

Clay content...perhaps our sweet young man is taking up some new hobbies... :blush



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 27, 2008, 12:04:13 AM
HEY clayharmony!! :wave


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 27, 2008, 12:45:06 AM
SORRY I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BRING SOMETHING OVER FROM YOUTUBE.  BUT PLEASE LOOK AT THE VIDEO.  IT'S JUST CALLED CLAY AIKEN  - AMAZING SONG.   IT'S LISTED UNDER VIDEOS THIS WEEK.  IT'S FROM 1999.  SO YOUNG, SO SKINNY BUT WHAT A SONG WHAT A VOICE!!!  IT'S WORTH IT

mimi2 ~ Is this the song you are referring to here?

                       Truely (http://youtube.com/watch?v=q_6pDneXDM0)

Can you imagine how he would sound (and look!) singing it today?

And here's another song done in the same time period:

                You are My Hero (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0qdGAAC-qU&NR=1)



And while I was on that page I found this, which I think is hilariously funny:

               The Search Begins (http://youtube.com/watch?v=p6uZzD-_aQE&feature=related)

Followed by this:

        The Search for Clay Continues (http://youtube.com/watch?v=MyqAMywTp3M)

Where did this picture come from?  Anybody know?  (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20misc/th_Project11.jpg) (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/franniek54/Clay%20misc/Project11.jpg)  clickable


DANG it M2 ~ It's 2:30 in the morning and now you've got me watchin youtubes!


Meesa ~ I've never gone to any of my reunions.  (pffft!)

Johanna ~ You certainly are tenacious when you decide to do something!  Wish I could join your mah jongg group.  (http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n103/Luckistarr4/Personality/mahjongg2.gif)



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 27, 2008, 01:23:09 AM


One more youtube for  Mamma Mia (http://youtube.com/watch?v=-EiypbED-C0&feature=related) lovers.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 27, 2008, 01:34:40 AM
Well isn't this fun...!  Hello you two night owls: Marilyn and franniek54... :wave  :bigsmile  I'm usually up late posting all by my lonely out here... what a surprise to go back on to post another tidbit and find you two still up.   :clap

"DANG it M2 ~ It's 2:30 in the morning and now you've got me watchin youtubes!"   :lol

Franniek54...you are right...I can be pretty persistent when something strikes my fancy...and yeah...I wish you could try this game out with me.  Now...all my life, I thought I'd like to speak Italian...LOVE the sound of it for musical terms...but, whatever tenacity I have wilted when I gave it a go this last Spring...hey, can I help it when I want language sounds to stay constant, like music notation stays constant...i.e. an F# sounds the same, no matter what octave it is in, what instrument/voice produces it...  :wink  That's my excuse, and I'll stick to it...until I decide if my ... ahem... coughing spells was my weakness...or I am languages dud...!  :bduh

Now...what I actually came to mention to you ... ah ha...I sometimes have a point...  :wink ...anyone watching "The Great American Dog"...Thursday nights?...I think it is an absolute hoot...animal owners can be quite nutty!  Okay Do key...I think I'm done now... good night people ...


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 27, 2008, 02:26:10 AM
FRANNIE - WOW THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THEM OVER,  I LOVE THAT SECOND SONG FROM 1999  WHAT A VOICE....LET'S HEAR HIM SING THAT TODAY.  MAMA MIA WAS CUTE TOO!
I'M UP TOO LATE CRAVING ME SOME CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 27, 2008, 05:50:01 AM
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FRANNIE - WOW THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THEM OVER,  I LOVE THAT SECOND SONG FROM 1999  WHAT A VOICE....LET'S HEAR HIM SING THAT TODAY.  MAMA MIA WAS CUTE TOO!
I'M UP TOO LATE CRAVING ME SOME CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!


MIMI 2 That sounds lower in calories than the pancakes we at the IHOP last night at 9:00..   Hey, I had a craving for a short-stack of buttermilk pancakes...so sue me!!!!!  :lol  But I'm paying for it today!   (we need a chubby-cheeked emoticon)

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Meesa ~ I've never gone to any of my reunions.  (pffft!)
FRANNIE, "Pffft" about says it for me about my high school.  I've moved on from cliquish, petty people.  Life's too short and every day is too precious to surround yourself with pettiness.  I guess coming face to face with one's own mortality does that to you. 

MEESA, please put all of this reunion garbage behind you.  Believe me, you don't have to have been a Student Council President or Prom Queen in high school to have a meaningful life filled with love and good friends!!!   You are a treasure and don't you forget it!!!  :hugg

Great heart-to-heart discussions, ladies.  Hey, it sure beats not posting anything during our Clay drought.    :hypno :hypno

CLAY MENTION:  We are in a Clay drought, a desert, a wasteland of Clay news.  We are thirsty, we are hungry, we are feeling deprived!!!  :para

P.S. JOHANNA, we would have been quite the pair in high school!  :eek With our big words and flowery language we would have given  Frasier and Niles Crane (TV refeference??) a run for their money!!!  :para  :lol




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on July 27, 2008, 06:13:07 AM
SARAH BERNHARDT I AM NOT- ALTHOUGH MY MOM ALWAYS TOLD ME I WAS OVERLY DRAMATIC.

When I was little younger  :lol my doctor told my mother that I was a real Sarah Bernhardt.  :para  Who me!?! :bigsmile

Thea, I loved watching Frasier!  :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 27, 2008, 06:18:28 AM
OMG!  Those two youtube videos "searching for Clay" are histerical!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Moonshot on July 27, 2008, 07:07:16 AM
Speaking of reunions, my 20th is next weekend. I missed the 10th and was hoping to attend this one but I'll be attending a conference out of town. My senior class had several hundred students and I knew the majority of them though only a handful knew or remembered me or so I thought. I went through grade school with most of them but our town had 2  jr. highs so for those years the class was split. And in jr. high is when everyone really finds their spot - band, sports, cheerleading, smart kids, school clubs etc. I was in the "none of the above" group :lol Then we all came back together to attend the one high school. I was quiet and shy and had just a small group of close friends.

I posted that in the reunion guest book, stating that I would miss going to the reunion even though I didn't think anyone remembered me. I got a couple of notes in my e-mail after that. One from a very popular, cheerleader who I had known since grade school. I was amazed to find out she was nervous about the reunion because she didn't like public speaking and being one of the organizers she'd have to give some speeches! We started talking back and forth and it's been great. Another note was from one of the guys in school. He said he remembered me as being quiet and nice and that I sat behind him in math class, he wanted to know what I had been up to since school! I was also able to reconnect with someone I was good friends with all through jr. high and high school but lost touch with after college. We're planning on getting together when I'm in FL for Christmas! Until then we're e-mailing up a storm.

They've done a great job on the reunion website having a then and now section for photos and a place for people to say what they're up to now. I look forward to checking back in for updates after the reunion.

School reunions are a lot like life: the people in them often surprise you! You make the most of every experience, enjoy the good and learn from the not so good. I'm sorry some of you had not so good reunion experiences. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 27, 2008, 07:43:10 AM
MORNING-- :wave :wave

LOVE READING HERE.

REUNIONS--I AM NOT THE PERSON I WAS THEN.  I SPEAK TO MY BF FROM HIGH SCHOOL/COLLEGE ALL THE TIME.  THE OTHERS I WAS FRIENDLY WITH JUST DISAPPEARED INTO THIN AIR.  THERE ARE A FEW I WOULD LOVE TO RECONNECT WITH, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, MY HIGH SCHOOL EXPERIENCE WAS JUST STUDYING.  NOT FUN.  AND THE BEATLES, OF COURSE.

JOHANNA--I AM REALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU LEARN ABOUT THE GAME.  I HOPE YOU ENJOY.   :hugg

I FINALLY GOT PAPERWORK FOR MY JOB AND HAVE TO GET IT IN THE MAIL.  SO INTERESTING THAT THIS WHOLE JOB THING SEEMS TO BE DONE VIA EMAIL AND PHONE.  I HAVE YET TO MEET A PERSON AND I MUST HAVE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF MATERIAL HERE.  BUSINESS SURE HAS CHANGED.

CLAY--HE'S OUT THERE SOMEWHERE DOING WHATEVER.  THAT'S AS GOOD AS I GOT ON THAT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 27, 2008, 08:51:52 AM

School reunions are a lot like life: the people in them often surprise you! You make the most of every experience, enjoy the good and learn from the not so good. I'm sorry some of you had not so good reunion experiences. :hugg

MICKI - Great observation about class reunions and "life". I certainly have experienced acceptance and I also have felt exclusion in various situations - during my youth and even now. I am constantly learning from people who live their lives with dignity and a positive attiitude, in spite of having many obstacles on a day to day basis. 

MIMI 2 & FRANNIE  - Love the You Tubes.

Off for a day of foolishness with friends.!   Have a great Sunday, everybody!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 27, 2008, 09:54:43 AM
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Meesa ~ I've never gone to any of my reunions.  (pffft!)
FRANNIE, "Pffft" about says it for me about my high school.  I've moved on from cliquish, petty people.  Life's too short and every day is too precious to surround yourself with pettiness.

Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion (the movie) wasn't that far from the truth.   :lol

Anyway judging from other reunion type situations I've attended, I think you will find your 20th, 30th or 40th to be much different than the 10th.  People come to understand with age that life is not a competition, but a journey; and as years go by there is more of a desire to reconnect and less of a desire to show off.


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With our big words and flowery language we would have given  Frasier and Niles Crane (TV refeference??) a run for their money!!!   

Do you remember the Frasier episode where Frasier and Niles went to night school to learn about auto mechanics?  I think that was one of the funniest episodes they ever did!...........passing notes to each other in French!   :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 27, 2008, 10:42:59 AM
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Do you remember the Frasier episode where Frasier and Niles went to night school to learn about auto mechanics?  I think that was one of the funniest episodes they ever did!...........passing notes to each other in French!   


Yes, I do, FRANNIE!  :lol   I think I've seen every episode at least 3 times.    :lmao :lmao
 BETH, I never would have thought you are a "Frasier"Fan, as well.  But of course if you're alter ego is "Sarah Bernhardt", I guess I can understand a bit more!!!  :lol

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School reunions are a lot like life: the people in them often surprise you! You make the most of every experience, enjoy the good and learn from the not so good. I'm sorry some of you had not so good reunion experiences.


So true, MICHELLE.  And I'm really not sorry that I didn't have a good reunion experience. Although it hit me hard back then,  I have since learned a lot about myself and I have moved on.  I have no need to go back to prove myself to anybody.  My life is good now....I have made wonderful lasting friendships since high school and for me  that's all that counts.  Those of you who had positive experiences in HS and at reunions, all I can say is "More power to you"!  :bigsmile   And particularly you, MICHELLE, I applaud you for having such an open mind about your former classmates.  You are a very special young lady, indeed!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 27, 2008, 10:56:27 AM



                 I WAS TEASED, RIDICULED, MADE FUN OF LIKE IT WAS THERE JOB, I TOLD A FEW TO BUGGER OFF, :roflmao CAUSE THEY HAD NO IDEA HOW MUCH FUN THEY MISSING,BET THEY NEVER THOUGHT A THING ABOUT WHAT THEY DID TO ME, BUT I SURVIVED/ CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER THEIR NAMES THATS HOW MUCH OF A IMPRESSION THEY MADE ON MAH.

                         WHO CARES  NOT ME AND I HAVE MANY CLAY FRIENDS AND OTHER FRIENDS WHO NEEDS THEM ANYHOO.

                             I GOT UP AND WENT TO CHURCH THIS MORNING FIRST TIME IN A LONG WHILE,FRIENDS SAW ME AND LOVED ME ANYWAY. :lol I LOOKED KINDA GOOD  FOR ME ANYWAY, NOW I AM HOME WAITING ON THE GOOD LORD TO SHOW ME WHATS NEXT, :para YOU CAN BELEIVE ME WHATEVER IT IS ITS GONNA BE GOOD.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 27, 2008, 11:03:31 AM
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I WAS TEASED, RIDICULED, MADE FUN OF LIKE IT WAS THERE JOB, I TOLD A FEW TO BUGGER OFF,  CAUSE THEY HAD NO IDEA HOW MUCH FUN THEY MISSING,BET THEY NEVER THOUGHT A THING ABOUT WHAT THEY DID TO ME, BUT I SURVIVED/ CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER THEIR NAMES THATS HOW MUCH OF A IMPRESSION THEY MADE ON MAH.

                         WHO CARES  NOT ME AND I HAVE MANY CLAY FRIENDS AND OTHER FRIENDS WHO NEEDS THEM ANYHOO.

GLORY, we love you, sweetie!   :hugg :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 27, 2008, 11:04:24 AM

High school is definately NOT real life, and the way people behaved in that unique culture would not necessarily serve them well out in the real world.  So people change, mature, get better (hopefully) with time.

Hey!  I think that was the concept of On My Way Here!  Wow!  We've come full circle!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 27, 2008, 11:30:33 AM
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High school is definately NOT real life, and the way people behaved in that unique culture would not necessarily serve them well out in the real world.  So people change, mature, get better (hopefully) with time.

Hey!  I think that was the concept of On My Way Here!  Wow!  We've come full circle!

Good "save", MS FRANNIE!   :notworthy :notworthy  I was getting worried that the Clay Content Police of CM might start coming after us!   :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 27, 2008, 11:46:33 AM


        :highfive


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 27, 2008, 11:48:34 AM
THEA--CLAY IS ALWAYS RIGHT THERE IN THE BACKGROUND OF EVERYTHING WE SAY AND THINK AROUND HERE.  SOMETIMES THAT SCARES ME.

AS FOR HS--I JUST CANNOT GO BACK THERE IN MY HEAD.  IT IS ANOTHER LIFE.  ONE I DO NOT CARE TO REVISIT.  I AM SO MUCH HAPPIER A PERSON NOW THAN I WAS THEN.  I NEVER FIT IN.  I HAD MY CORE GROUP OF FRIENDS, BUT I NEVER WAS IN THE "IN" CROWD.  IT WAS HARD BACK THEN, BUT IT MADE ME STRONG.  OOPS, ANOTHER CLAYISM.  BUT TRUE.  I REALLY DON'T FIT INTO THE "NORM" EVEN NOW.  I HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO.  NEITHER DOES ER.  I DON'T TRAVEL IN A GROUP UNLESS IT IS CLAY RELATED.  MY FRIENDS ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS.  I DO HAVE MINI-GROUPS.  PEOPLE I PLAY MAH JONGG WITH FOR ONE.  MAYBE 3 OR 4 MINI-GROUPS.  WE HAVE SOME FRIENDS AS COUPLES.  BUT NOT  A LOT OF COUPLES WHO ALWAYS DO THINGS TOGETHER.  I LEARNED FROM HS THAT THIS WORKS BEST.  YOU DON'T GET CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF FEUDS.  IF SOMEONE DOESN'T FIT INTO MY WORLD, I LET THEM GO.  SOMEONE NEW COMES AROUND.  OR NOT. 

BUT MY BEST FRIENDS HAVE BEEN A PART OF ME FOR LONG TIMES.  ONE FRIEND IS WITH ME FOR 34 YEARS.  ANOTHER 31. ANOTHER 18.  I CONSIDER MYSELF BLESSED THAT THESE WOMEN ARE SO SPECIAL TO ME AND THAT I HAVE THEM IN MY LIFE.

AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF MY CLAY FRIENDS WILL BE WITH ME UNTIL MY LAST BREATH.  I ADD THEM TO MY SHORT LIST OF TRUE FRIENDS.

OMG.  A LONG RAMBLE.  SORRY.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 27, 2008, 01:26:38 PM
GWENN  IF YOU HAVE LONG TIME FRIENDS LIKE THAT...YOU ARE TRULY BLESSED!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 27, 2008, 01:43:12 PM



                             I HAVE HS FRIENDS FROM 40 YEARS AGO I STILL TALK TO GOOD TO KNOW YOU CAN CHAT ABOUT THING LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY. :para EVEN CLAY


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 27, 2008, 01:43:34 PM
I called and checked on Rebecca, and she is doing fine after her incident last night ,how
ever before her Mom & Dad left the club with her, her B/S had jumped up to over 400, (from all the carbs they had given her to bring it up.)  They took her home and changed the pump site.  Today she is good as new.

Hopefully she won't have any highs & lows like that this week while I am taking care of her....She & her Mom & Dad are leaving Sat for a cruise to Bermuda 7 days ,then are coming back to their beach house for 4 days, so I'm getting ready for another vacation...

Maybe I'll go searching for one missing Clay Aiken...anybody want to join the posse? :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 27, 2008, 02:04:09 PM
MARLENE----I SO RELATE TO YOUR PLIGHT WITH REBECCA.  MY LITTLE NIECE HAS TYPE 1 ALSO.  UPS AND DOWNS LIKE CRAZY.  THEY HAVEN'T PUT HER ON A PUMP.  NO IDEA WHY.  BUT SHE HATES IT AND RESENTS IT LIKE CRAZY.  I GUESS WE ALL HAVE OUR ISSUES.  BUT WHEN YOUNG CHILDREN HAVE HEALTH PROBLEMS, IT IS VERY SAD.

AND GO LOOKING FOR CLAY.  MAYBE YOU WILL FIND HIM ALTHOUGH WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HE EVEN LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.   :bduh

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 27, 2008, 02:34:53 PM



                             GWENN I THINK HE LOOKS GREAT, RESTED, SEXY. RECEIEVING SO MANY OFFERS HE IS HAVING A HARD TIME SORTING THROUGH THEM. MAKING PLANS FOR A TOUR, AND WAITING FOR ME TO GET TO HIS HOUSE TO HELP WITH ALL THE DECSIONS HE HAS TO MAKE,

                       I WILL ARRIVE HE IS WAITING FOR ME WITH BAITED BREATH,OF COURSE AFTER WAITING HE IS SWEATY, AND AFTER A LONG DAY I AM SWETY SO WE HAVE TO TAKE A SHOWER :bigsmileTHEN HE SAYS NO SENSE IN GETTING DRESSED IN CLOTHES SO WE GET OUR COMFY PJS ON LOUNGE AROUND  WE HAVE A BITE TO EAT.WATCH TV, THEN WORK ON HIS NEXT PROJECT A TOUR ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE US.OF COURSE HE ASK ME TO GO WITH HIM AND BEING THE WONDERFUL PERSON I AM HOW CAN I REFUSE

                    THEN WE NEOGIATE SALERIES I TELL HIM I DO NOT NEED MONEY JUST FOOD AND SHELTER AND A TERIA , :roflmao HE ASK WHAT HE SHOULD TAKE I SAY CLOTHES NO DANCE BELT NEEDED, :lol I TELL HIM BE SURE AND PACK SPEEDOS HE SAYS OF COURSE FOR YOUR CLAYMANIAC FRIENDS I SAY YES. AND THEN HE PACKS 100 T-SHIRTS WHICH I TAKE OUT OF HIS SUITCASE WHEN HE IS NOT LOOKING, I PACK ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF SHORTS NOT JUST CARGO, AND AWAY WE GO. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 27, 2008, 02:46:26 PM
And they lived happily ever after? :dust


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 27, 2008, 02:52:11 PM
Glory ~  :lmao :lmao  I like all of it---except the PJ part.


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MAYBE YOU WILL FIND HIM ALTHOUGH WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HE EVEN LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.   

GWENN ~ Also  :lmao :lmao   Probably very scruffy lookin by now.  Hair is wavy and out of control, roots are growing out, maybe its pulled back into a ponytail! (God forbid!)  The sandals, shorts and tshirts are gettin a work out.  The teeth are still gleeming white tho.



My mother always told me never lose touch with your girlfriends cuz they will always be there for you when times get tough.  She never has and they have seen her thru so many things.  It's a good life lesson.  My girlfriends have been there when I needed them too.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 27, 2008, 03:01:09 PM



                              WE WILL LOSE THE PJ'S :blush


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 27, 2008, 03:19:14 PM



                              WE WILL LOSE THE PJ'S :blush

:woohoo    If your gonna fantasize might as well do it right!  :woohoo


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on July 27, 2008, 03:28:08 PM
My mother always told me never lose touch with your girlfriends cuz they will always be there for you when times get tough.  She never has and they have seen her thru so many things.  It's a good life lesson.  My girlfriends have been there when I needed them too.

Frannie, You are so right! I just recd an invitation to a friend's 40th bday party.  I think it was just an excuse to have a party.  She wrote the invitations herself  :lol.  We've been friends since 3rd and 4th grade.  Hard to believe that it's been 30 years! YIKES!  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 27, 2008, 04:16:40 PM
Glory - I wish I lived in your world!  :wink :lol

Almost Clay content: I am reading a book about Christopher and Dana Reeve "Somewhere In Heaven". He was a wonderful man, too - took the bad things life gave him and turned them into something good - reminds me of Our Honey. If you were a Christopher Reeve fan, I recommend the book, but you will  :cry - I have. (I also have the book that Christopher Reeve wrote himself after his accident - it is also a wonderful book).

I have spent the afternoon moving my tank of tropical fish to our office - heat index today was 112 (actual temp 102), and since the airconditioning will be off at the house for several days while a new unit is installed, I thought I'd better move the fish to someplace cooler!

If I don't get back on until after everyone has gone to sleep - Good Luck to everyone trying for Gala tickets tomorrow.  :ghug


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 27, 2008, 04:22:44 PM
Now let me see if I have this right..I'm looking for a tall broad shouldered ,male 6'1", thats scruffy lookin' with possible ponytail that has dark roots, and is wearing cargo pants sandals,and has bright gleaming teeth...Is  that about right?

Should I start my search at local Krispy Creme, then move on to McDonald's..then to Applebees, Smithfield BBQ & then possibly Fuji San.   Can you think of any other places I may find this missing man?? :scratch


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 27, 2008, 04:43:14 PM


                          MIMI, WE JUST GOT OUT OF THE SHOWER. :blush :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 27, 2008, 04:53:45 PM
Glory -- you are too funny for words, girl -- keep up the good work

Marlene and everyone else going through this drought:  I may not have found Clay this afternoon but I found a darn good replacement.  I d/l a lot of stuff during the CD promo and had not watched all of it.  This afternoon I decided I would look at some of the stuff I hadn't watched and, lo and behold, I hit the jackpot. 

I had watched the GMA clips of the actual show that had been posted and they were good but if you want to see some of the absolute best video of Clay I've seen in a long time go check these out:

http://clackunlimited.com/clack/TV_Appearances/GMA/080507_OMWH/FanVideo/SecretlyLovesClay/wmv_large/

Hope the link works because SLC  got some of the clearest, up-close video of OMC that I believe I have ever seen.  There is not much audio except for Clay singing during the actual show but the pictures, IMO, more than make up for that.  She got some drop dead gorgeous shots and many of them are not posed but are just natural.  After I found out how good they were I d/l the whole thing to a DVD and watched it this afternoon.  I don't have a HDTV but even on my TV they were magnificient--his face filled the whole screen.  Another thing I noticed is that you don't just walk into a studio and start singing.  There are a lot of people and a lot of waiting that goes on before it gets to that point. 

Enjoy -- I know I did.   :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 27, 2008, 04:58:40 PM
LADIES--YOU ARE THE BEST. :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile

GLORY--TRY BENIHANNA.   :lmao :lmao :lmao

I WOULD BET MY PENSION THAT THOSE AWFUL KHAKI CARGO PANTS AND TAN SANDALS ARE ON THIS MAN AS WE SPEAK.   :slick :slick :slick

ANYWAY, I AM SOOO TIRED.  NO IDEA WHY.  DID LAUNDRY.  READ.  DID A CROSSWORD PUZZLE.  SOME PAPERWORK.  AND I AM EXHAUSTED THINKING ABOUT THOSE GALA TIX. 

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 27, 2008, 05:19:34 PM
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Another thing I noticed is that you don't just walk into a studio and start singing.  There are a lot of people and a lot of waiting that goes on before it gets to that point.

Nah, you gotta make it much more complicated than that!

There's lighting to get "just so," and camera positions to work out. And lots of audio to get straight (which, as I recall on this particular show, didn't exactly happen). Each sound source that needs a mic (singers, various instruments) must have a cable run and the right kind of mic set up. Sound levels need to be checked. And in New York, the crew members are all union, so no one can do someone else's job. It takes longer for everything to get done because so many people are involved. (There are no unions in NC, so a production crew is smaller--2 or 3 people can get an entire set air-ready in less than half the time. And with just as high quality, I might add.) :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 27, 2008, 05:39:44 PM
Lordy, Sunny.  What time would you have to be at the studio if the show starts at 7:00 a.m?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 27, 2008, 05:42:37 PM
Lordy, Sunny.  What time would you have to be at the studio if the show starts at 7:00 a.m?
As talent or crew? :lol To get all those lights aimed and mics wired before air, probably a good 2 hours before air. (For crew, 3 hours.)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 27, 2008, 05:51:49 PM
Marlene - My mom is Type II diabetic, so I've dealt with her highs and lows. We went on diets and lost a lot of weight. She was able to go back to just oral meds rather than insulin, but in the process she bottomed out in her sleep several times, at restaurants and finally at work in the bathroom when we both worked at the clinic. When they found her, she had been unconscious for 1 1/2 hours and her blood sugar was 19.

Have you all watched goldarngirl/luckiest1's Sterling Heights montages?  :thud I'm loving them!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 27, 2008, 05:54:14 PM
Thanks Barbara~  After watching Clay sing Ashes ,I will have to agree ,he isn't cool, he's darn   :hot2

That definetly would have been a smokin' :flame  great single     :thud


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 27, 2008, 05:56:30 PM
Thanks for the tip, Meesa


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 27, 2008, 06:11:43 PM
New topic:

I wonder what Clay's reaction was to radio talk-show host Michael Savage's definition of autism as "a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out" and his reference to those diagnosed with autism as "brats, idiots, and morons."


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 27, 2008, 06:19:13 PM
Meesa~  I have Type 2 Diabetes, and I keep mine contolled by oral medication, and by watching my diet...the thing I am missing while Rebecca is out of school for summer is my water aerobics, because the excerise helps a lot too.

I have had arthiritis for so many years and have taken anti-inflamation medication ,now I am having problems with my kidneys...it would have been nice if over the years that the Dr who was writing all those prescriptions would have informed me of the side affects before the damage was done...Don't you think?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 27, 2008, 06:20:12 PM


                           SUNNY I THINK WE KNOW THE ANSWER.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 27, 2008, 06:21:08 PM
Sunny, I can't speak for Clay but, it really made me angry.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 27, 2008, 06:23:56 PM
New topic:

I wonder what Clay's reaction was to radio talk-show host Michael Savage's definition of autism as "a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out" and his reference to those diagnosed with autism as "brats, idiots, and morons."

SOMEONE ACTUALLY SAID THAT??????????

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 27, 2008, 06:28:10 PM
Oh yeah, Gwenn. You can find clips of it on the 'net if you missed it the first time around.

I was stunned by the man's ignorance. The fact that he would come out and say such a thing so boldly, so... almost proudly. It was just... amazing. :hypno


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 27, 2008, 06:37:07 PM
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I wonder what Clay's reaction was to radio talk-show host Michael Savage's definition of autism as "a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out" and his reference to those diagnosed with autism as "brats, idiots, and morons."


Unfortunately the 1st Amendment allows these yokels to spew whatever hateful, intolerant venom they wish.  Although I wonder if he had directed these comments towards a particular ethnic group or sexual orientation he would have been kicked off the air???    :scratch

I hope Mr. Savage never has to deal with a disabled child or relative.  I pity the person who might be dependent upon him.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 27, 2008, 06:40:44 PM
Oh yeah, Gwenn. You can find clips of it on the 'net if you missed it the first time around.

I was stunned by the man's ignorance. The fact that he would come out and say such a thing so boldly, so... almost proudly. It was just... amazing. :hypno

SPEECHLESS.  TOTALLY SPEECHLESS.  WOW.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 27, 2008, 06:53:03 PM
Well gals' I'm going to call it a night...it's been a long day and 5:00am seems to come to soon....


GOOD LUCK TO ALL THOSE TRYING TO GET GALA TICKETS TOMORROW  ( I'll  be right there joining you.)

Marlene   :cross     :pray



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: franniek54 on July 27, 2008, 07:25:05 PM
New topic:

I wonder what Clay's reaction was to radio talk-show host Michael Savage's definition of autism as "a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out" and his reference to those diagnosed with autism as "brats, idiots, and morons."

He's obviously just looking for attention because nobody would believe that.  But no matter how bad it gets in the media, they still manage to find a way to make me feel outraged.  Do station managers have no decency left?  I worry about what our children are learning to accept as the norm for entertainment.  Insults, slander, violence and obscenity are not entertainment.  WTH, they used to be crimes!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on July 27, 2008, 07:27:17 PM
AFTER HEARING WHAT THAT MAN (IDIOT) SAID-THERE IS NO PUNISHMENT HARSH ENOUGH!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 27, 2008, 07:29:16 PM
Unfortunately, some people do believe it. That's why there's been an outrage for the past week. Some of his sponsors have even pulled their ads from his show.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 27, 2008, 08:18:09 PM


Have you all watched goldarngirl/luckiest1's Sterling Heights montages?  :thud I'm loving them!

 :wave  Hi everyone Back from seeing my mom who is recovering from hip surgery. No computer for 3 days!!!  Luluasst
 
KSChristian4Clay!   :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud :thud  That montage is AWESOME!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 27, 2008, 08:21:54 PM
Good luck to everyone tomorrow re TBAF gala. After tomorrow, there will be no more  :stress

Luluasst


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: PHILLYLUVSCLAY on July 27, 2008, 08:28:29 PM
New topic:

I wonder what Clay's reaction was to radio talk-show host Michael Savage's definition of autism as "a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out" and his reference to those diagnosed with autism as "brats, idiots, and morons."

Personally, I was seriously pissed when I heard what he said. I thought has that man ever been in the presence of handicap child?  Brats?  No, they are our teachers to how the real world reacts to what is not perfect in their eyes.  I wanted Mr. Savage to be in the presence of my sister and take care of her for 1 hour and then see what he would say..


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 27, 2008, 09:44:32 PM
New topic:

I wonder what Clay's reaction was to radio talk-show host Michael Savage's definition of autism as "a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out" and his reference to those diagnosed with autism as "brats, idiots, and morons."

Personally, I was seriously pissed when I heard what he said. I thought has that man ever been in the presence of handicap child?  Brats?  No, they are our teachers to how the real world reacts to what is not perfect in their eyes.  I wanted Mr. Savage to be in the presence of my sister and take care of her for 1 hour and then see what he would say..

PHILLY ~  I know how much your sister means to you and how much you have been involved in her care. :hugg :hugg

Those remarks were ignorant and totally unacceptable.

P.S.  Good luck to all Claymaniacs who will be going for Gala tickets tomorrow/today.  Fingers crossed that all of you are successful.   :bouncy


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 27, 2008, 11:34:04 PM
MIMI2:  I am brain dead....I see your Avi and I know this is a video on you tube or somewhere. Do you have the link? Thanks!!! I thought I saved it and can't find it.

Luluasst


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mrs. c. on July 28, 2008, 04:06:38 AM
New topic:

I wonder what Clay's reaction was to radio talk-show host Michael Savage's definition of autism as "a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out" and his reference to those diagnosed with autism as "brats, idiots, and morons."

Personally, I was seriously pissed when I heard what he said. I thought has that man ever been in the presence of handicap child?  Brats?  No, they are our teachers to how the real world reacts to what is not perfect in their eyes.  I wanted Mr. Savage to be in the presence of my sister and take care of her for 1 hour and then see what he would say..


Philly, I was also shocked to here those words from his mouth.  I also know how much Cathy means to you, you have always said she is the better part of you :hugg :hugg


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Post by: Sundancer on July 28, 2008, 04:56:03 AM
Personally, I was seriously pissed when I heard what he said. I thought has that man ever been in the presence of handicap child?  Brats?  No, they are our teachers to how the real world reacts to what is not perfect in their eyes.  I wanted Mr. Savage to be in the presence of my sister and take care of her for 1 hour and then see what he would say..

Philly, I admire you. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 28, 2008, 07:31:53 AM
MORNING ALL--

ON THE PHONE TRYING TO GET A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT FOR BARRY'S BACK.  I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ORDEAL.  ON HOLD 15 MINUTES AFTER BUSY SIGNAL FOR 15 MINUTES AND THEN ANOTHER DOCTOR AND THEN............

HOPING FOR GALA TICKETS TODAY.  I WONDER IF THERE WILL BE ENOUGH AND WHO ALL IS HOPING TO GO.  I THINK I COUNTED AROUND 12 FROM CLAYMANIACS.  NOT SURE.  WE'LL SEE.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 28, 2008, 08:03:21 AM
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Hi everyone Back from seeing my mom who is recovering from hip surgery. No computer for 3 days!!!  Luluasst
 

Hi LULU! (forgot your real name!)

My mother is also recovering from hip replacement surgery last month.  I spent a week with her (she lives 150 miles west of here).  Luckily I had an internet connection, but actually little time to post! 

BTW, a month after her surgery she is doing very well!  She has graduated from a walker and is now getting around with a cane.  :bouncy Be sure to tell your mom she absolutely must do her physical therapy exercises every day!

As I posted yesterday, I hope this yokel who made all of the insensitive, intolerant comments about autistic children never has to deal with a special-needs child himself.  But if he does, he will regret those words he made in haste and in the name of "entertaining". 

PHILLY, I have no doubt that those words put a dagger in your heart.  I thought of my adult autistic cousin when I heard that.  We often forget that autistic children eventually become autistic adults. (or in your case,, mentally challenged children become mentally challenged adults) That's when it really becomes overwhelming for all involved in caregiving, whether in the home or miles away.   You are such a blessing to your sister, PHILLY.   :hugs

Well, today's "The Day" !  :para :headache :crazy   May all of your Gala ticket dreams come true, ladies!!!!  :cross


 
 
 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 28, 2008, 08:09:33 AM
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ON THE PHONE TRYING TO GET A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT FOR BARRY'S BACK.

GWENN, I just read this.  "Barry's Back"?  Oy!  :headache

Clay content:  GWENN, didn't you used to say "He's killing me!" in reference to Clay.  I think that probably applies to Gala Ticket purchasing today!  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 28, 2008, 08:11:22 AM
 :wave

Good Morning! Only a little over an hour until tickets go on sale  :cheer2 :stress2 :claytime Hope it will all work out for anyone wanting to go!

I read that article online last week - what a jerk!!

Thea and Shelly - hope both of your Moms continue to do well - I know from experience that it is hard to have a Mom living away from you - especially when they have health problems.

Have a great day, everybody - hopefully those who get tickets will let us know!


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Post by: ClayAikenishot on July 28, 2008, 08:12:34 AM
hi everyone whats new


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 28, 2008, 09:17:03 AM
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

I GOT  TICKETS!!!! MEESA AND I ARE GOING TO THE GALA !!!YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: PHILLYLUVSCLAY on July 28, 2008, 09:17:22 AM
Me too! :bouncy


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Post by: Marilyn on July 28, 2008, 09:18:14 AM
Me too! :bouncy

WE CANNOT WAIT TO SEE YOU AGAIN!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 28, 2008, 09:19:36 AM
WELL, MARION AND I ARE GOING.  I THINK.  GOT A CONFIRMATION KIND OF THANK YOU BUT NO NUMBER OR ANYTHING.  THE SITE DIDN'T ACTIVATE ON TIME.  SO, HOPE ALL IS WELL.

SO, NC GIRLS, SEE YOU IN OCTOBER?  I THINK?

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on July 28, 2008, 09:22:57 AM
i got two tickets  :bouncy  :clap :shappy


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 28, 2008, 09:24:13 AM
WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE ALL GOING WHO WANT TO GO!!!!

 :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana

HM.  INTERESTING.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 28, 2008, 09:29:15 AM
Shirl/ClayObsessed got a ticket!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 28, 2008, 09:29:55 AM
Congratulations to all who got tickets to the gala today!  Have fun!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 28, 2008, 09:33:04 AM
It is great to see happy Clay fans!  :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana :purpbana


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 28, 2008, 09:35:52 AM
      Mimi,
               I"m so happy you got a ticket.  I  GOT ONE TOO!!!!!!!!! October is going to be fun !!!
     
          I will  PM you tonight.                     


                                          Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 28, 2008, 10:24:14 AM
Congrats on getting Gala tickets, ladies! :cele :fruit   Now it's time to angst (kvell?) about what to wear!  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 28, 2008, 10:43:21 AM
THEA---I WILL  WEAR WHAT I HAVE.  BLACK AND BLACK.  WITH BLACK SHOES.   :bigsmile 

I AM TRYING NOT TO ANGST ABOUT ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.  I FIGURE, WE KNOW NOTHING.  WON'T KNOW NOTHING FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.  MAYBE WE WILL KNOW SOMETHING BY OCTOBER. :bang :bang :bang :bang

THE BEST PART OF THE GALA WILL BE SEEING EVERYONE AGAIN. 

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 28, 2008, 11:00:01 AM
Congratulations, all who will be Gala-vanting! :purpbana


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 28, 2008, 11:13:49 AM
WELL, I GOT AN EMAIL FROM THE BAF THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH MY CREDIT CARD INFO.  I CHECKED THE PAGE AND FORGOT TO CLICK ON MASTERCARD.  I EMAILED BACK.  I HOPE THIS IS STRAIGHTENED OUT.  NOTHING, AND I MEAN NOTHING, CONCERNING THIS MAN COMES EASY TO ME.   :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang

SORRY FOR THE RANT.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 28, 2008, 11:15:51 AM
Maybe that's cuz you got all flustered when you bought the tickets, Gwenn. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 28, 2008, 11:16:30 AM
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!  :shappy

Finally.  :bigsmile

I was worried how the day would go when I got to work and saw my fishie had died. :cry Poor Roni. Then it stormed and the power flickered. Marilyn, Jen and I e-mailed back and forth and finally got the tickets!  :bouncy

I talked with Shirl and we're just ready to go now.  :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 28, 2008, 11:17:41 AM
Maybe that's cuz you got all flustered when you bought the tickets, Gwenn. :wink

ABSOLUTELY.  I RUSHED MY A** OFF BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THEM.  WELL, LOOK.  I JUST HOPE ALL IS WELL OR I WILL BE SOOOOO P***ED. 

AND THEY SOLD OUT IN 30 MINUTES I READ.  I GUESS SOME FOLKS STILL LIKE HIM.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 28, 2008, 11:23:13 AM
ABSOLUTELY.  I RUSHED MY A** OFF BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THEM.  WELL, LOOK.  I JUST HOPE ALL IS WELL OR I WILL BE SOOOOO P***ED. 
The fact that they E'd you to ask about your credit card, rather than to say, "Your order is cancelled" tells me all is well. :thumb


Quote
AND THEY SOLD OUT IN 30 MINUTES I READ.  I GUESS SOME FOLKS STILL LIKE HIM.
I wonder if this is big news to the folks at the BAF. :hypno



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 28, 2008, 11:31:12 AM
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Hi everyone Back from seeing my mom who is recovering from hip surgery. No computer for 3 days!!!  Luluasst
 

Hi LULU! (forgot your real name!)

My mother is also recovering from hip replacement surgery last month.  I spent a week with her (she lives 150 miles west of here).  Luckily I had an internet connection, but actually little time to post! 

BTW, a month after her surgery she is doing very well!  She has graduated from a walker and is now getting around with a cane.  :bouncy Be sure to tell your mom she absolutely must do her physical therapy exercises every day!


 :wave  Hi Philly. Luluasst here. My "real" name is Shelley.  Yeah my mom can't put weight on her foot after 2 months. I had hip surgery last year and was walking with a cane in 3 weeks. Basically mom has bad osteoporosis (spelling?) and major deterioration of her bones and muscles. So it will be a long recovery. But I'm glad I went to see her.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 28, 2008, 11:33:33 AM
WELL, I GOT AN EMAIL FROM THE BAF THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH MY CREDIT CARD INFO.  I CHECKED THE PAGE AND FORGOT TO CLICK ON MASTERCARD.  I EMAILED BACK.  I HOPE THIS IS STRAIGHTENED OUT.  NOTHING, AND I MEAN NOTHING, CONCERNING THIS MAN COMES EASY TO ME.   :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang

SORRY FOR THE RANT.

GWENN

Hey I got the same problem. It was my debit/credit card. And the huge deposit I made SATURDAY will not be posted until tonight- so the money isnt released until TOMORROW. I both emailed and phoned TBAF and I hope they will honor the reservation. DAMMIT!! :bang


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 28, 2008, 11:33:43 AM
Maybe that's cuz you got all flustered when you bought the tickets, Gwenn. :wink

ABSOLUTELY.  I RUSHED MY A** OFF BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THEM.  WELL, LOOK.  I JUST HOPE ALL IS WELL OR I WILL BE SOOOOO P***ED. 

AND THEY SOLD OUT IN 30 MINUTES I READ.  I GUESS SOME FOLKS STILL LIKE HIM.

GWENN


 :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance  So happy Gwenn that you and everyone got tickets!
Luluasst


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 28, 2008, 11:50:31 AM
Oy Gwenn and Marilyn!  :hugg I was so excited for you folks...and wishing I could go too.  I hope BAF will support your ticket request and work out the glitches with you.  My congrats to all of you who are going!  Only 30 minutes...wow!

Shelley...I will PM you with the fan gathering info for San Marcos... :wave

And...my mah jongg pursuit is yielding results... I learned a cousin o of mine has played this game for years...and she's going to review the tiles and show me a little bit about it Thursday...  :bouncy  The gal that wrote a beginners book on it has classes after the High Holy Days...I am hopeful that at least one is offered for worker bees.






Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 28, 2008, 11:52:39 AM
   
     I have a room booked at the Marriot for Oct. 16,17 and 18th. Two double beds so if any one is
   
      interested in sharing, I only need one bed, please Pm me. Next question ,I could not get the room

      for the 19th unless they get a cancellation, does anyone have room for little ole me on the 19th?
   
       It"s easier to travel on Monday than Sunday. Fingers crossed!
   
                                                                        Thanks,
                                                                                            Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on July 28, 2008, 02:38:22 PM
Yay! We're Back!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 28, 2008, 02:44:21 PM
Yay! We're Back!

 Indeed...woohoo!  :clap  Beth, thanks for your terrific company during the site downtime!!  :hugg :purpbana  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Petjen on July 28, 2008, 02:47:14 PM
Yay! We're Back!

I thought it was just me.  When I tried to log in, it said my account had been suspended.  I was thinking   :bawl 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 28, 2008, 02:55:05 PM
I hate it when we cannot get on - and I don't have the "emergency" web site on the computer here at the office - that will change tonight! Thank goodness we are back!  :clap

The tickets did sell out in less than 30 minutes - I wonder if TBAF only sold the 450?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 28, 2008, 03:13:03 PM


Shelley...I will PM you with the fan gathering info for San Marcos... :wave


THANKS GOT IT!  :bouncy

Shelley
aka Luluasst


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 28, 2008, 03:14:13 PM
WHEW!  I thought I'd done something weird to my computer too!!! :bouncy :bouncy :bouncy


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 28, 2008, 04:09:22 PM
What a relief.  Paranoid old me thought I had stuck my cyber foot in my cyber mouth once again and caused the site to collapse!   :para :lol 

Thanks, JOHANNA, for the e-mail!  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 28, 2008, 04:29:27 PM





                             I HAVE A KILLER HEADACHE. GOING TO LIE DOWN. BUT LIFE IS GRAND. WISH I COULD GO TO THE GALA, I MISS EVERYTHING FUN. WHEN I GET RICH, :roflmao I WILL GO .

                              THEA I WAS READING ALL OF A SUDDEN I GOT THIS STRANGE  THING SAYING WE WERE SUSPENDED I IMMIEDIATELY THOUGHT WHAT DID THEA DO.
 J/K. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 28, 2008, 04:31:34 PM
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And...my mah jongg pursuit is yielding results... I learned a cousin o of mine has played this game for years...and she's going to review the tiles and show me a little bit about it Thursday...    The gal that wrote a beginners book on it has classes after the High Holy Days...I am hopeful that at least one is offered for worker bees.

JOHANNA, I'm very impressed.   Hmmmm, I'm wondering if they'll have a Mah Johngg class on the cruise ship.  I'll check.  

Also, I'm glad you and BETH had a chance to talk on the alternate web site!   You 2 are among my favorite people on Claymaniacs!  :ghug

Clay Content:  Does Clay have any idea how much angst he caused so many here on the Board with those dang Gala tickets????   Does he enjoy creating angst???  :headache :bite


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 28, 2008, 04:33:10 PM
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THEA I WAS READING ALL OF A SUDDEN I GOT THIS STRANGE  THING SAYING WE WERE SUSPENDED I IMMIEDIATELY THOUGHT WHAT DID THEA DO.
 J/K.
   :lmao GLORY! 

Here's hoping your killer headache goes away soon, sweet GLORY!  It could be caused by the heat, humidity and pollen in the air.  :comfort


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 28, 2008, 04:47:55 PM

                                                           I WAS READING ALL OF A SUDDEN I GOT THIS STRANGE  THING SAYING WE WERE SUSPENDED I IMMIEDIATELY THOUGHT WHAT DID THEA DO.

You, too? :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 28, 2008, 05:36:26 PM



                                   SUNNY SO YOU THOUGHT O MIGHTY ONE STRUCK AGAIN HUH. :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 28, 2008, 05:47:29 PM
Glory! I was agreeing with you about Thea! :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 28, 2008, 05:51:38 PM



                                    SURE YOU WERE SUNNY AND I WAS BORN IN A BARN. :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 28, 2008, 05:54:17 PM
Um, Glory? You might wanna read my post again. :para



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 28, 2008, 05:59:31 PM



                                    HUH I READ IT IT SAID  YOU TO DIDN'T YOU MEAN I SUSPENDED US ALSO. :lol :lol OR DID YOU MEAN THAT YOU MEANT THEA TO. I'M SO CONFUSED. :lol AND I WENT TO COLLEGE. DO YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN

                                         BETTER LET THEA SORT THIS OUT. :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 28, 2008, 06:01:19 PM
I give up. :hypno


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 28, 2008, 06:05:54 PM


                               RYAN SEACREST GOT BIT BY A SHARK POOR SHARK. THE SHARK LEFT RIGHT AWAY CAN'T SAY THAT I BLAME THE SHARK.  :roflmao

                                 NEVER GIVE UP SUNNY. I THINK I NEED NEW GLASSES YOU THINK THAT WOULD HELP ME :bigsmile I LOVE YOU.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mrs. c. on July 28, 2008, 06:24:22 PM
Congratulations, all who will be Gala-vanting! :purpbana

My Sunny friend~~~~you have such a way with words  :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 28, 2008, 06:27:31 PM
My Sunny friend~~~~you have such a way with words  :wink

Thank ya! :giggle


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mrs. c. on July 28, 2008, 06:31:36 PM
My Sunny friend~~~~you have such a way with words  :wink

Thank ya! :giggle

Well I sure chuckled when I saw your little play on words :lol
Are you gala vanting???  Not in the cards for me unfortunately.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 28, 2008, 06:32:13 PM


                                          HEY I HAVE A WAY WITH WORDS TO. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mrs. c. on July 28, 2008, 06:34:40 PM


                                          HEY I HAVE A WAY WITH WORDS TO. :lol

Glory be, I'm still trying to make sense of your previous post too :lmao :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 28, 2008, 06:35:52 PM
Well I sure chuckled when I saw your little play on words :lol
Are you gala vanting???  Not in the cards for me unfortunately.

I wish I could. But I just have too many other things I need to spend $250 on right now, ya know?

Wait 'til next year. :slick


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 28, 2008, 06:47:20 PM


                                 SUNNY I SORRY. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 28, 2008, 06:49:12 PM
Oh, stop that! :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 28, 2008, 06:56:54 PM



                            OK :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 28, 2008, 07:19:55 PM
I JUST FOUND OUT WE ARE BACK.  BUSY RUNNING MY MOUTH TO MARION.  TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF I DID GET TIX.  I GOT ANOTHER EMAIL FROM THE BAF TELLING ME MY ORDER WAS SHIPPED.  SO, I GUESS I AM GOING.  LORD, TODAY WAS JUST TOO MUCH FOR THIS BRAIN.  THE TIX S**T AND THE WEBSITE DOWN.  I FELT LIKE I WAS GETTING A SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE.

CLAY IS A LOT OF WORK.

GLORY----YOU ARE TOO MUCH.

THEA--I NEVER THOUGHT IT WAS YOUR FAULT. 

JOHANNA---I HOPE AFTER ALL OF THIS YOU LIKE MAH JONGG.

SHARON---NICE TO SEE YA. :bigsmile

I DID CHECK THE ALTERNATE SITE JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO.  THANK GOODNESS I HAVE IT BOOKMARKED.

SO GOOD TO BE HOME.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mrs. c. on July 28, 2008, 07:24:36 PM
SHARON---NICE TO SEE YA. :bigsmile


Thanks Gwenn :hugg and Clay is a lot of work :wink :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 28, 2008, 07:34:03 PM
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THEA--I NEVER THOUGHT IT WAS YOUR FAULT. 


Well, apparently GLORY and SUNNY did!   :lmao :lmao

Quote
I GOT ANOTHER EMAIL FROM THE BAF TELLING ME MY ORDER WAS SHIPPED.  SO, I GUESS I AM GOING.  LORD, TODAY WAS JUST TOO MUCH FOR THIS BRAIN.  THE TIX S**T AND THE WEBSITE DOWN.  I FELT LIKE I WAS GETTING A SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE.
All's well that ends well, GWENN.  So glad you got your tickets.  :clap 'Sounds like a great group is going.  Does anybody have a list of exactly who from Claymaniacs will be in attendance at the Gala?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Jan on July 28, 2008, 07:41:21 PM
HI, MISSING YOU ALL. :wave

I AM HOME ON MY LAPTOP WHICH IS VERY TEMPERAMENTAL. :bang

WROTE A LONG, LONG,POST AND IT WENT POOF OUT INTO CYBER SPACE.
NOW I AM BRAIN DEAD AND CANNOT REMEMBER ALL THAT I WROTE. :bduh
SO I WILL JUST SAY GOODNIGHT AND WILL TRY AGAIN TOMORROW. :wave

THANKS FOR THE BEAUTIFUL CARD , FRANKIE, AND WITH A DRAGONFLY ON IT  :smile :smile :smile

HI THEA, MISS YOU TOO !!!!!!!

LUV
JEANNE/JAN

LAPTOPS ARE ON MY BAD LIST.



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 28, 2008, 07:46:33 PM
JEANNE~    :hugg :hugg  How is the latest Sunflower painting coming along?   'Sorry your laptop is giving you fits.  I couldn't function without mine these days. 

'Long day, it seems, for everybody here on the Board.  Those of us who aren't able to attend the Gala were ticket angsting right along with those of you who were going for tickets.  

We have a very hot, humid day ahead of us tomorrow.  I just can't deal with the heat any more....I used to love it but not anymore.  FRANKIE, I don't know how you survive down there in Louisiana.   :no

P.S. JEANNE, I know all about being "brain dead".  The heat of summer does it to me.  Remind me that I was complaining about the heat when it's 20 below zero next winter.   :lol



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayfannj on July 28, 2008, 08:23:59 PM
Glad we are up and running.. I am still sick but my voice is coming back..  Good work today ,Girls....     :cheers2 Hope all who tried were satisfied with results...Anything involving Clay and tickets is confusing, exhausting and usually all fouled up.........

So......Gwenn...we either have the tix, or the "merchandise in your email mentioned  is...2 XTRA LARGE BUBEL AIKEN T-SHIRTS at a cost of $250 each!!!!  OY!!!


HE IS SO MUCH WORK...indeed!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 28, 2008, 08:41:49 PM

Hey I got the same problem. It was my debit/credit card. And the huge deposit I made SATURDAY will not be posted until tonight- so the money isnt released until TOMORROW. I both emailed and phoned TBAF and I hope they will honor the reservation. DAMMIT!! :bang

How cool is it that I got an email tonight from ARON HALL at TBAF. He said he would reprocess tomorrow and ended with "No worries!!!"

So I am good to go!! Whew!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 28, 2008, 09:36:55 PM

Hey I got the same problem. It was my debit/credit card. And the huge deposit I made SATURDAY will not be posted until tonight- so the money isnt released until TOMORROW. I both emailed and phoned TBAF and I hope they will honor the reservation. DAMMIT!! :bang

How cool is it that I got an email tonight from ARON HALL at TBAF. He said he would reprocess tomorrow and ended with "No worries!!!"

So I am good to go!! Whew!!

YAY!  So glad for you and for EVERYBODY who tried for BAF tickets today and GOT THEM!   :clap :clap :hugg

MARILYN - Lexie and I were at JC Penney on Saturday.  I could hear her calling for me.  I followed her voice and found her wrapped around a long pink curtain and she started singing "Where Are You, Where Are You"  - as a depiction of Sir Herbert in Spamalot.  We both laughed like loons and then we talked (once again) about NYC trip and she said she was so glad that we had some time to spend with "Marilyn from Long Island".   Happy times. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 28, 2008, 09:51:11 PM
I got my confirmation too.

I'm glad something went right today. I just got home from work and was holding my cat. The other cat knocked something over, scared Roy half to death and he bit down on my arm and wouldn't let go.  :para I have six holes in my right arm and it huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurts. :cry I know he didn't mean it but OUCH!  :bang

Marilyn let me know the site was down and I e-mailed Ang right away. Glad to see it's back up!

Off to start burning Sterling Heights DVD #2 and head to bed.  :wave


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 28, 2008, 10:24:07 PM
MEESA !  So glad you will get to the Gala, too!  Sorry about the cat bites.  Ouch! :para

I have one of your Sterling Heights DVD's (which I simply adore ~ what a night)! Tell me about Sterling Heights DVD #2!  :hypno

I was at work when the site went down.  I can usually sneak a peek on Claymaniacs from work  . .  I saw the unusual message on the site and I thought it was maybe a warning from management of our health care system . . .  I thought I was busted!! :angel   When I got home, I was pleased to see that it was the website  . . . not me personally!  :blush

Miss you ~ You are working so many hours.  When you see Clay in October, tell him that we miss him and are waiting for concert news.  :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 28, 2008, 10:47:05 PM
You gals are priceless... :wave

Glad the Gala pursuit ended well...geez right in the middle of the drama and the site goes out... we are lucky, though...this site rarely has difficulties, compared to the others...thank goodness we've got Michael, Clandy, Pamela  at the helm to keep it 'all good' for us!

Meesa...I too continue to enjoy the DVD you and Clandy prepared for us at the party last summer...I've played it so much I thought I might wear the thing out!  Sorry about the pet issues...oh, but they are so worth the hassle aren't they.  I'm going to acquire another cockatiel...it's been lonely here since my Sebastian died...maybe that will be my consolation for passing on the Gala, this time.

Gwenn...I'm going to PM you with the latest website I found...don't worry, my favorite cousin/Clay fan has the same to say about the game as you have...and I'm quite sure this will be an entertaining venture for me...and I won't gain weight from it...
(since I opted not to try to travel to NC this fall, then I better use my energies/monies wisely and take of the lbs that I've accumulated during the work yuck... to earn a Clay travel reward the next time he performs somewhere, yes!)

Oh mighty one...glad you are back to your feisty, spunky self...and in fine form with our Sunny here!

Good to read your posts...Shelley, Barbara 2, Thea, Jan, Marilyn and clayfannj !


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 28, 2008, 11:14:17 PM
JOHANNA ~  You are the ultimate night owl!  I always enjoy your posts, but never seem to be near a computer to respond.  I take special interest when you share your observations and also those of your psychic friend.  I can't wait to see how this chapter in Clay's life actually plays out.   :blush 

I was just ready to turn off my computer . . . glad I caught you online.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 28, 2008, 11:30:49 PM
JOHANNA ~  You are the ultimate night owl!  I always enjoy your posts, but never seem to be near a computer to respond.  I take special interest when you share your observations and also those of your psychic friend.  I can't wait to see how this chapter in Clay's life actually plays out.   :blush 

I was just ready to turn off my computer . . . glad I caught you online.

Thank you so much...  :hugg I was ready to go catch the Leno monolog and noticed that you had just posted... yeah, a night owl is definitely accurate...  :lol and add to that West Coast time differences...oh wow!    ...ever since I was a teenager...with my siblings we'd watch Johnny Carson and laugh like fools...neighbors would smash down their bedroom windows...and my folks, bless their souls, never got mad at us...hey, it beat being out of house carousing with booze huh!  :naughty

Anyway, while I was dying to go to NC with so many here, I am trying to be practical...what a bore that is!...at least from my mystically gifted friends, I know good things are in store for us...and so I try to keep the faith and live out the slogan which I've brought here innumerable times...Hope Springs Eternal...

Okay Do key...on to Leno's witticisms...hopefully he's 'on' tonight!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 29, 2008, 05:09:25 AM
MORNING FOLKS---

GLAD TO SEE JOHANNA IS A NIGHT OWL.  I AM NOT.  I WAS EXHAUSTED BY 11 LAST NIGHT.  NOT FROM ANYTHING INCREDIBLE, JUST THE DAY.

ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS BROUGHT ME A BOOK SHE WANTED ME TO READ IN LARGE PRINT.  I WAS VERY GRATEFUL SINCE THE LIBRARY BY ME DOESN'T HAVE A GOOD SELECTION OF LARGE PRINT BOOKS.  ANYWAY, THE BOOK IS CALLED LOW COUNTRY.  IT TAKES PLACE IN  THE LOWCOUNTRY OF SOUTH CAROLINA NEAR CHARLESTON, ONE OF MY FAVORITE PLACES.  THE MAIN MALE CHARACTER'S NAME IS CLAY.  ANYWAY, I AM READING AND CHAPTER 7 BEGINS WITH A PARAGRAPH IN WHICH IT SAYS--

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THE SUN IS STILL SHINING.  THE BIRDS ARE STILL SINGING.  IT ISN'T GOING TO KILL US, AND WHAT DOESN'T KILL US CAN ONLY MAKE US STRONGER.

THIS FRIEND IS NOT A CLAY FAN.  CANNOT STAND HIM.  BUT I THOUGHT IT AMAZING.  SOMEHOW, IT ALWAYS SEEMS TO COME BACK TO HIM.  AND I ALMOST SEE A MESSAGE FOR US IN THAT STATEMENT.

ONE YEAR AGO TODAY I WAS GETTING READY TO BOARD A PLANE FOR CALIFORNIA.  IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE WEEK.  AND THE PALA CONCERT.  ONE OF 4 BUT ONE OF THE BEST EVER.

HAPPY 5TH BIRTHDAY YESTERDAY TO THE BAF.  FITTING THAT THE TIX FOR THE GALA WENT ON SALE THAT DAY.  I BET THAT WASN'T A COINCIDENCE AT ALL.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 29, 2008, 05:12:47 AM
 :wave

Good morning!

I don't mind being "practical" this time, either - so many of you are going (plus so many of the KC bunch - my email box had so many messages from them going back and forth last night), that I know I will feel like I am there - and I will be, in spirit!!!! It's funny how I went around with a smile on my face yesterday just knowing that he was going to be in a room full of people who love hime again!  :purpbana

Have a great Tuesday, everybody!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 29, 2008, 05:16:40 AM
Barbara - This is a 2 DVD set of the Best of Sterling Heights montages.  :smile

Roy is cuddly this morning. He's sorry I know. My arm is sore, but I'll survive.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 29, 2008, 06:16:45 AM




                                      GOOD MORNING,I AM UP BETTER THAN BEING DOWN :bigsmile
                       
                       THEA I HEAR YA ABOUT THE HEAT, I HATE IT AS MUCH AS I DO THE COLD JUST CAN'T WIN CAN WE.

                       HAVE TO CHECK AND SEE IF CLAY APPEARED LAST NIGHT, EVERYDAY I WAKE UP HOPING FOR A LITTLE TIDBIT,ONE DAY CLOSER TO HEARING FROM HIM I TELL MESELF.

                           AGAIN I SAY WHY CAN'T I BE RICH, BUT LIFE IS GOOD.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 29, 2008, 06:50:18 AM
 :wave  Just got an email from a KC member - she talked to Aaron Hall yesterday - there were only 300 individual tickets for the Gala available - isn't it amazing that everyone from this site who wanted a ticket got one? (At least it seems that they did!)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 07:22:49 AM
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Just got an email from a KC member - she talked to Aaron Hall yesterday - there were only 300 individual tickets for the Gala available - isn't it amazing that everyone from this site who wanted a ticket got one? (At least it seems that they did!)
That is very interesting, FRANKIE.  I think Clay would be happy to know that he has at least 10 "classy" ladies in his audience!  :lol

Good morning, all.   I'm going to try to get things done early.  I need to get off and walk a bit, too as well as water all of my flowers.  This is the time of year when I just want to pull them all up and start planning what to plant next year.   :bubble

Guests for dinner tonight.  Just simple food, but still I have to put a halfway decent meal on the table.

Clay content:  I wonder what will be served at the Gala.  Hopefully they can do better than the usual "rubber chicken"!!!  :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 07:28:06 AM
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So......Gwenn...we either have the tix, or the "merchandise in your email mentioned  is...2 XTRA LARGE BUBEL AIKEN T-SHIRTS at a cost of $250 each!!!!  OY!!!

MARION,  :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao.  I don't know about you, but when it comes to myself and t-shirts, a high quality minimizer bra is required!!!   :para :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: PHILLYLUVSCLAY on July 29, 2008, 08:14:20 AM
You know, I was doing this----> :bite  All night long because I didn't get a e-mail last night.  Mr. Philly called our bank and the ticket was taken out this morning..:yes

 I was so afraid I did something wrong like typing my e-mail wrong. :bduh


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: cl4clay on July 29, 2008, 08:21:42 AM
Hope you all don't mind a new comer to this site. It seems I just never have time to get over her. However, Some of my dearest friends like Dudly, Frankie, Glory, Barb and especially Thea post here and I just wanted to say a grea big "hello" to them and everyone else on this site.

Hope those going to the Gala have a great time.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 29, 2008, 08:46:45 AM
Went over to the OFC last night. The McVargas girls will be at the Gala.




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 29, 2008, 08:47:19 AM
Hope you all don't mind a new comer to this site. It seems I just never have time to get over her. However, Some of my dearest friends like Dudly, Frankie, Glory, Barb and especially Thea post here and I just wanted to say a grea big "hello" to them and everyone else on this site.

Hope those going to the Gala have a great time.

OMIGOSH- How are you??


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 29, 2008, 08:48:47 AM



                    I HATE THIS CLAY DROUGHT. :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 08:51:52 AM
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The McVargas girls will be at the Gala.


So much for only "classy ladies" at the Gala!  :lol  Either they have a sugar daddy or they have won the lottery.  Amazing that they will be there.  I'm sure Clay will be beyond thrilled!  :para

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However, Some of my dearest friends like Dudly, Frankie, Glory, Barb and especially Thea post here and I just wanted to say a grea big "hello" to them and everyone else on this site.
EVELYN,  I'm so happy to see you here.  You are so special to me.  :hugg

Off to fertilize the flowers.  As I said before, I either take care of them now or I'll be pulling them up very soon.  Oy.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 29, 2008, 08:52:13 AM
Went over to the OFC last night. The McVargas girls will be at the Gala.




A PERSON COULD THROW UP.   :puke :puke :puke  THEY ARE JUST THE MOST ANNOYING PEOPLE.  I HOPE THEY ARE SOMEWHAT BEHAVED.  I BET CLAY WILL BE NAUSEOUS TO SEE THEM.  I AM QUITE SURE THEY ARE PART OF WHO HE WAS DISCUSSING ON KIMMEL.

ONLY 300 INDIVIDUALS.  WOW.  AND IT TOOK 20 MINUTES OR SO TO SELL THEM?  SPEAKS VOLUMES AS MARION WOULD SAY.

SO FUN SEEING "NEW" FAMILIAR FACES HERE. :hugg

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 08:53:30 AM
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SO FUN SEEING "NEW" FAMILIAR FACES HERE.


And EVELYN is among the best!   :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 08:55:15 AM
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I HATE THIS CLAY DROUGHT.


We're all in this together, GLORY.  Hang tough...we'll get through it, OK?   :hugs

OK, before it gets way to hot (and I start looking for excuses to stay inside), I have to get busy watering/fertilizing.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 29, 2008, 08:59:28 AM
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A TREE REMOVED THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO ONLY GROW 5 FEET AND IS NOW TALLER THAN THE 2 STORY HOUSE.  IT IS A TREE THAT SHEDS NEEDLES ALL THE TIME AND IS CLOGGING UP GUTTERS AND MAKES THE FRONT PORCH ALWAYS LOOK A MESS.  WE GOT THIS GORGEOUS PELLA DOOR WITH BEVELED GLASS AND ALL YOU SEE IS NEEDLES.  SO, WE NEED TO REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING CLEAN AND NARROW.  WE ARE THINKING A HOLLYWOOD JUNIPER OR A CORKSCREW JUNIPER SINCE THEY ARE HARDY AND NOT REALLY EXPENSIVE.  WE HAVE TONS OF EXOTIC PLANTS, BUT I AM PAST ALL THAT EXPENSE.  ANY SUGGESTIONS?

BARRY USED TO DO ALL OF THIS STUFF.  NOW WITH HIS BACK, FORGET IT.  HE IS STILL IN A TON OF PAIN.  SLEEPING ON THE FLOOR.  I HAVE TO WAIT ON HIM.  (I HATE THAT.)  BUT I REALLY FEEL BAD THAT HE IS IN SO MUCH PAIN.  THE STUPID DOCTOR FROM YESTERDAY NEVER CALLED.  ANOTHER ANNOYANCE.

CLAY CONTENT---SINCE I AM NOT CLAYTREKKING THIS SUMMER, I WILL USE THAT MONEY TO BUY A NEW TREE. :bigsmile

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 29, 2008, 09:00:16 AM
Went over to the OFC last night. The McVargas girls will be at the Gala.




I would like to think this would be an event where those that attend could be scrutinized further than his regular appearances.  Guess I thought wrong.  I'm not only sorry for Clay...but think of who has to sit with them...they may have invested a goodly sum, time and energy aside from keen excitement to learn that they are their table mates.  Perhaps they'll sit those two by themselves...next to the exit door, and Jerome!  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Clanderson on July 29, 2008, 09:07:13 AM



                    I HATE THIS CLAY DROUGHT. :para

You and me both Glory. The days seem to run together endlessly. I get up every morning hoping to hear something, anything and am so happy if I do. Guess that comes from living alone and having no life.  :lol  :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 29, 2008, 09:07:36 AM

                   CAN THEY SEAT THEM OUTSIDE THE EXIT.  :roflmao OR PEHAPS ON THE LAWN AND LOCK THE DOORS. :para HOPE THEY KNOW HOW TO BEHAVE OR CLAY MIGHT LOSE HIS TEMPER. NAH.

                  GOOD TO SEE YOU MISS EVELYN. COME BACK PLEASE. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 29, 2008, 09:10:04 AM


                      BEV I HEAR YA  EVERYDAY THE SILENCE GETS  REALLY HARD TO TAKE. :hugg BUT HE WILL BE BACK EVENTUALLY I KEEP TELLING ME SELF


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 09:42:45 AM
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WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A TREE REMOVED THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO ONLY GROW 5 FEET AND IS NOW TALLER THAN THE 2 STORY HOUSE.  IT IS A TREE THAT SHEDS NEEDLES ALL THE TIME AND IS CLOGGING UP GUTTERS AND MAKES THE FRONT PORCH ALWAYS LOOK A MESS.  WE GOT THIS GORGEOUS PELLA DOOR WITH BEVELED GLASS AND ALL YOU SEE IS NEEDLES.  SO, WE NEED TO REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING CLEAN AND NARROW.  WE ARE THINKING A HOLLYWOOD JUNIPER OR A CORKSCREW JUNIPER SINCE THEY ARE HARDY AND NOT REALLY EXPENSIVE.  WE HAVE TONS OF EXOTIC PLANTS, BUT I AM PAST ALL THAT EXPENSE.  ANY SUGGESTIONS?

GWENN, we encountered a similar problem with a blue spruce tree in near our front walkway and porch.  After we bought the house we were told that this tree could end up being huge and the roots could end up causing problems with our foundation and driveway.  So we dug it up, transplanted it successfully in our back yard and replaced it with a Flowering Dogwood.  It doesn't grow that tall and is narrower than a lot of trees.  Plus we get beautiful white flowers on it in May. 


If I were you, I'd talk to a landscaper about this.  BTW, Phil also gave up heavy-duty yard work about 2 years ago.  He mows the lawn, pulls weeds, edges and takes care of a vegetable garden.  At least he does that, so no complaints here.

CLAY CONTENT:  I agree with you, JOHANNA, that the people who get stuck at the McVargas girls' table will be royally pissed.   And I kind of like your idea of putting them by themselves near the exit with Jerome standing right over them!   :lol

BEV, I would love to meet you someday.  I also have never met WILSON BARBARA, MIMI, SHELLEY and  few others here.  Hopefully soon???


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 29, 2008, 09:59:06 AM
 :wave

Gwenn - Our climates are so different that I would be afraid to suggest a tree - you need to talk to someone at a good plant nursery in your area.  We are into 100 plus days every day here (will be for the rest of the summer, probably). I am just not familiar with what would do well up there.

One advantage to not going to many concerts (usually only one per Tour) is that I have never encountered the "Vargas Girls" - have just read comments about them.

Evelyn -  :hugg You are missed on the OCD. I didn't even know this thread was here until about a year ago  :bduh when I was informed that it was the main Clay discussion thread! Glad I branched out a little, though! I still love the OCD, Pet Thread, and Garden Threads, too, of course!

I miss Clay, too, and I think the Clay Drought would be tolerated very well by all fans if we just had a Blog saying "I am having fun - I'm not mad at most of you - see you in the Fall (or Winter, or Spring, or Summer)". That would make all of the difference in the world, IMO.

At least we know some fans will see him in October, and, hopefully, there will be photos and Clack. There is a DVD of the Hawaii Gala (a fellow Maniac who attended sent it to me right after that Gala). Wonder if they will sell DVDs of this one?

Progress on the house - electrician and air conditioner guys have come out of hiding!  :clap Error with routing water by former plumber has been corrected!  :clap I may have a house again some day!  :clap (Although I have to say that camping out here at the office is not too bad).

Have a good rest of the day, everybody - see y'all this evening!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 29, 2008, 10:43:20 AM
Went over to the OFC last night. The McVargas girls will be at the Gala.




I would like to think this would be an event where those that attend could be scrutinized further than his regular appearances.  Guess I thought wrong.  I'm not only sorry for Clay...but think of who has to sit with them...they may have invested a goodly sum, time and energy aside from keen excitement to learn that they are their table mates.  Perhaps they'll sit those two by themselves...next to the exit door, and Jerome!  :lol


The group is more than two- more like four or five.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 10:45:40 AM

ONE YEAR AGO TODAY I WAS GETTING READY TO BOARD A PLANE FOR CALIFORNIA.  IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE WEEK.  AND THE PALA CONCERT.  ONE OF 4 BUT ONE OF THE BEST EVER.

GWENN


 :wave GWENN: I was AT the Pala concert last year! That was my birthday present to myself. Too amazing. Wish I'd known you then. Shelley (LUluasst)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 10:50:40 AM
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BEV, I would love to meet you someday.  I also have never met WILSON BARBARA, MIMI, SHELLEY and  few others here.  Hopefully soon???

 :wave Me too! Where are you located? I'm in San Diego. Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 10:51:32 AM
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GWENN: I was AT the Pala concert last year! That was my birthday present to myself. Too amazing. Wish I'd known you then. Shelley (LUluasst)
 
 


 :wave SHELLEY!  JOHANNA/CLAYHARMONY and I were at the Pala Concert last summer, as well!  I had flown out from Illinois and was the recipient of JOHANNA's gracious hospitality in her lovely apartment.  Plus I had the opportunity to at least visit with my USC son to and from LAX!

I'll never forget the clear, starry skies, the gentle breezes and most of all, the cardboard cutout up on one of the hotel windows!!!  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 29, 2008, 10:54:14 AM
SOMETHING TOTALLY OFF TOPIC BUT ---

FROM CV:

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Ahh, Simon C. has split with his long time girlfriend

http://www.myparkmag.co.uk/articles/celebrity/simon-cowell/simon-cowells-terri-split.html

Seems she was a little too possessive.

 :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 29, 2008, 11:03:27 AM
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GWENN: I was AT the Pala concert last year! That was my birthday present to myself. Too amazing. Wish I'd known you then. Shelley (LUluasst)
 
 


 :wave SHELLEY!  JOHANNA/CLAYHARMONY and I were at the Pala Concert last summer, as well!  I had flown out from Illinois and was the recipient of JOHANNA's gracious hospitality in her lovely apartment.  Plus I had the opportunity to at least visit with my USC son to and from LAX!

I'll never forget the clear, starry skies, the gentle breezes and most of all, the cardboard cutout up on one of the hotel windows!!!  :lol

OH, FLAT CLAY WAS JUST THE BEST.  LORRIE AND I WERE TRAVELING WITH ARTQUEST  FROM CH AND MR. ARTQUEST  AND FLAT CLAY IN HER TRUNK.  IT WAS JUST THE FUNNIEST THING BECAUSE AS WE ALL CHECKED INTO OUR ROOMS, MR. ARTQUEST PUT FLAT CLAY INTO THE WINDOW FACING THE COURTYARD WHERE THE CONCERT WAS TO TAKE PLACE.  IT REMAINED THERE ALL NIGHT THE FIRST NIGHT AND ALL DAY INTO THE NIGHT OF THE CONCERT.  IT WAS JUST A RIOT.  FLAT CLAY IS LIFE SIZED.  I DO BELIEVE THE OLDER ONE HAS BEEN REPLACED BY SIR ROBIN, BUT I AM NOT SURE AS I AM NOT A FRIEND OF ARTQUEST.  LORRIE IS.

THE JUMBOTRONS WERE INCREDIBLE AS WAS THE PERSON PROJECTING.  THE WEATHER WAS PERFECT AND CLAY WAS SO ON.  I MEAN ON.  BESIDES FLAT CLAY, WE HAD THE SOON TO BE BRIDE WITH THE VEIL.  I HAD A GOOD SEAT.  FRIENDS.  AND CLAY.  IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN CLACK OF  When I See You Smile, IT IS A MUST SEE.  AND THE BANTER OF CLAY AND QUIANA ABOUT HER GAMBLING.   THE AUDIENCE WAS VERY RESPONSIVE AND A SOLD OUT CROWD.  EVEN PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T GET TICKETS WERE IN THEIR HOTEL ROOM WINDOWS.  TALK ABOUT CLAY COMPLAINING ABOUT "STEALING MAH SHOW."    I LOVED IT.  I THINK EVERY PERSON THERE FELT THE SAME WAY.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 29, 2008, 11:23:09 AM


                           I HAVE WATCHED IT MANY TIMES GWENN STILL MAKES ME SMILE.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 11:33:53 AM
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GWENN: I was AT the Pala concert last year! That was my birthday present to myself. Too amazing. Wish I'd known you then. Shelley (LUluasst)
 
 


 :wave SHELLEY!  JOHANNA/CLAYHARMONY and I were at the Pala Concert last summer, as well!  I had flown out from Illinois and was the recipient of JOHANNA's gracious hospitality in her lovely apartment.  Plus I had the opportunity to at least visit with my USC son to and from LAX!

I'll never forget the clear, starry skies, the gentle breezes and most of all, the cardboard cutout up on one of the hotel windows!!!  :lol


OMG!  :thud  That was soooo cool! 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 11:36:33 AM
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GWENN: I was AT the Pala concert last year! That was my birthday present to myself. Too amazing. Wish I'd known you then. Shelley (LUluasst)
 
 


 :wave SHELLEY!  JOHANNA/CLAYHARMONY and I were at the Pala Concert last summer, as well!  I had flown out from Illinois and was the recipient of JOHANNA's gracious hospitality in her lovely apartment.  Plus I had the opportunity to at least visit with my USC son to and from LAX!

I'll never forget the clear, starry skies, the gentle breezes and most of all, the cardboard cutout up on one of the hotel windows!!!  :lol

OH, FLAT CLAY WAS JUST THE BEST.  LORRIE AND I WERE TRAVELING WITH ARTQUEST  FROM CH AND MR. ARTQUEST  AND FLAT CLAY IN HER TRUNK.  IT WAS JUST THE FUNNIEST THING BECAUSE AS WE ALL CHECKED INTO OUR ROOMS, MR. ARTQUEST PUT FLAT CLAY INTO THE WINDOW FACING THE COURTYARD WHERE THE CONCERT WAS TO TAKE PLACE.  IT REMAINED THERE ALL NIGHT THE FIRST NIGHT AND ALL DAY INTO THE NIGHT OF THE CONCERT.  IT WAS JUST A RIOT.  FLAT CLAY IS LIFE SIZED.  I DO BELIEVE THE OLDER ONE HAS BEEN REPLACED BY SIR ROBIN, BUT I AM NOT SURE AS I AM NOT A FRIEND OF ARTQUEST.  LORRIE IS.

THE JUMBOTRONS WERE INCREDIBLE AS WAS THE PERSON PROJECTING.  THE WEATHER WAS PERFECT AND CLAY WAS SO ON.  I MEAN ON.  BESIDES FLAT CLAY, WE HAD THE SOON TO BE BRIDE WITH THE VEIL.  I HAD A GOOD SEAT.  FRIENDS.  AND CLAY.  IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN CLACK OF  When I See You Smile, IT IS A MUST SEE.  AND THE BANTER OF CLAY AND QUIANA ABOUT HER GAMBLING.   THE AUDIENCE WAS VERY RESPONSIVE AND A SOLD OUT CROWD.  EVEN PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T GET TICKETS WERE IN THEIR HOTEL ROOM WINDOWS.  TALK ABOUT CLAY COMPLAINING ABOUT "STEALING MAH SHOW."    I LOVED IT.  I THINK EVERY PERSON THERE FELT THE SAME WAY.

GWENN

 :word  I had seats way in the back so I now know that I will get better seats next time! But who cared? Clay was awesome that night.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 11:38:12 AM
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GWENN: I was AT the Pala concert last year! That was my birthday present to myself. Too amazing. Wish I'd known you then. Shelley (LUluasst)
 
 


 :wave SHELLEY!  JOHANNA/CLAYHARMONY and I were at the Pala Concert last summer, as well!  I had flown out from Illinois and was the recipient of JOHANNA's gracious hospitality in her lovely apartment.  Plus I had the opportunity to at least visit with my USC son to and from LAX!

I'll never forget the clear, starry skies, the gentle breezes and most of all, the cardboard cutout up on one of the hotel windows!!!  :lol

I can't wait to do a concert with all you gals!!  :bouncy  Well....I guess we HAVE to wait since a tour isn't announced yet.  :para  But you know what I mean!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 11:47:35 AM

OFF TOPIC!  WE JUST HAD AN EARTHQUAKE HERE IN SO CAL!!! :shocking :shocking :shocking

Clay content: Is Clay in the building?

I'm still dizzy! That was a BIG ONE!!  :hypno

Lulausst


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Post by: Beth on July 29, 2008, 11:52:57 AM
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A moderate earthquake occurred at 11:42:15 AM (PDT) on Tuesday, July 29, 2008.
The magnitude 5.8 event occurred 3 km (2 miles) SW of Chino Hills, CA.






Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 11:57:32 AM
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OFF TOPIC!  WE JUST HAD AN EARTHQUAKE HERE IN SO CAL!!!   



 :para :para  I need to call my USC son right now...


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Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 11:59:29 AM
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OFF TOPIC!  WE JUST HAD AN EARTHQUAKE HERE IN SO CAL!!!   



 :para :para  I need to call my USC son right now...


Let us know if you reach him. Weird. The epicenter was LA. Whew. The eleator is out here at work and I'm on the top floor!


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Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 12:03:20 PM
Just called my USC son.  He said "It was nothing".  Maybe it's nothing to him, but to me and probably most of you it is  :eek  He said it's way far east "In the Valley", wherever that is. 

BETH, thanks for giving the exact location.  That helped when I talked to my son.   :hugg

Please let us all say prayers that this isn't the prelude to THE BIG ONE.  Prayers go out to all of you and to all of our loved ones who are out in SoCal.  JOHANNA, are you OK?    :please  :shocked


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Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 12:04:55 PM
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Let us know if you reach him. Weird. The epicenter was LA. Whew. The eleator is out here at work and I'm on the top floor!

Eek, SHELLEY, read my post above.  I reached my son.  I hope you'll be OK.  :comfort :bite


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Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 12:06:02 PM
Just called my USC son.  He said "It was nothing".  Maybe it's nothing to him, but to me and probably most of you it is  :eek  He said it's way far east "In the Valley", wherever that is. 

BETH, thanks for giving the exact location.  That helped when I talked to my son.   :hugg

WHEW!  The Valley is 20 miles above the downtown area of LA so it wasn't near uSC at all. Still!!  :hypno Nerve wracking!

Please let us all say prayers that this isn't the prelude to THE BIG ONE.  Prayers go out to all of you and to all of our loved ones who are out in SoCal.  JOHANNA, are you OK?    :please  :shocked
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Absolutely! Johanna - how are you doing?


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Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 12:07:56 PM
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Let us know if you reach him. Weird. The epicenter was LA. Whew. The eleator is out here at work and I'm on the top floor!

Eek, SHELLEY, read my post above.  I reached my son.  I hope you'll be OK.  :comfort :bite

Yes all is well. But I am still dizzy. And I'm 120 miles away in San Diego!!
The important thing to know is I've been thru many many earthquakes so no reason to panic.

Prayer is definitely good tho. I never turn them down so thanks!!
Shelley


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Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 12:08:47 PM
http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS268US268&q=chino+hills,+CA&um=1&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=title

Here's a map of that area.  Per BETH's post, Chino Hills, allegedly the epicentre of the earthquake. is to the East.  I can't find my son's area of LA on the map, though.

EDIT, he lives not too far east of Santa Monica, so I think he's OK.

GWENN, in what part of SoCal does LORRIE live?


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Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 12:10:26 PM

Thank you Claymaniacs, for letting us connect with each other right now on this board. I know this is suppose to be Clay content..... :wink

Shelley


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Post by: claymate27 on July 29, 2008, 12:11:10 PM
 :wave


OMG! Those of you who had to endure the earthquake..*prayers for ya'll*....be careful..... :hugg



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Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 12:11:55 PM
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Thank you Claymaniacs, for letting us connect with each other right now on this board. I know this is suppose to be Clay content.....

Shelley

 :word :ghug2 :cry


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Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 12:12:29 PM
Here's a map of that area.  Per BETH's post, Chino Hills, allegedly the epicentre of the earthquake. is to the East. 


Oh. okay. Originally you said Valley. So Chino is definitely East...on the way to Riverside and eventually Arizona....so definitely near Los Angeles proper at all. I use to live in Diamond Bar which is near Chino Hills I think. So that's good news for you and your son.


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Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
:wave


OMG! Those of you who had to endure the earthquake..*prayers for ya'll*....be careful..... :hugg



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Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 12:15:16 PM
Here's a map of that area.  Per BETH's post, Chino Hills, allegedly the epicentre of the earthquake. is to the East. 


Oh. okay. Originally you said Valley. So Chino is definitely East...on the way to Riverside and eventually Arizona....so definitely NOT near Los Angeles proper at all. I use to live in Diamond Bar which is near Chino Hills I think. So that's good news for you and your son.

NOT near LA - I was typing to fast. Sorry! Still a little shook up.  :oh


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Post by: Beth on July 29, 2008, 12:20:24 PM
Here's the link to the info that I posted.

Recent Earthquakes (http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/)


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Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 12:20:42 PM
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NOT near LA - I was typing to fast. Sorry! Still a little shook up.  
 
 


Completely understandable, SHELLEY!

Clay Content:  So how about that hot redhead?  :bduh (That's the best I can do right now!).   :bigsmile


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Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 12:23:52 PM
Just heard from some LA friends - they said it felt a lot bigger that 5.8 but all are ok.


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Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 12:24:36 PM
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NOT near LA - I was typing to fast. Sorry! Still a little shook up.   
 
 


Completely understandable, SHELLEY!

Clay Content:  So how about that hot redhead?  :bduh (That's the best I can do right now!).   :bigsmile


I am so shook up I thought you were talking about me! :roflmao I'm a redhead too!  :roflmao


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Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 12:24:48 PM
 
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Still a little shook up.  
 
 
Sorry, SHELLEY, I didn't catch that until now!   :roflmao :roflmao

BETH, thanks for the earthquake link.  I think I'm going to bookmark that one.  See?  Moms of grown-ups still worry about their "babies".   :blush

CLAY CONTENT:  Clay's got me shakin' , rockin' and rollin'.   :para  Clay is a singer of great magnitude.  I quake everytime I see him on stage.   :crazy
 


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Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 12:30:23 PM
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CLAY CONTENT:  Clay's got me shakin' , rockin' and rollin'.   :para  Clay is a singer of great magnitude.  I quake everytime I see him on stage.   :crazy
 


 :notworthy :spit


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Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 12:43:55 PM
Okay everyone I am going to navigate the stairs  :cross- I'm on the 13th floor and the elevator is out from the quake so I will be signing off until I get home (about an hour or so).

Thanks to everyone for your support. What a weird day! :bduh

Hugs,
Shelley


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Post by: dudley5 on July 29, 2008, 12:56:54 PM
Hope you all don't mind a new comer to this site. It seems I just never have time to get over her. However, Some of my dearest friends like Dudly, Frankie, Glory, Barb and especially Thea post here and I just wanted to say a grea big "hello" to them and everyone else on this site.

Hope those going to the Gala have a great time.


 :wave  :hugg


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Post by: lovinclay on July 29, 2008, 01:11:59 PM
Doesn't Jaymes live in Santa Monica?


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Post by: fhmmany2 on July 29, 2008, 01:27:34 PM
Shelley - glad you are O.K.   :hugg- we'll be waiting to see that you are safely home - looks like mass transit has been slowed a little, so it may take you a while.

Thea - glad your son is O.K., too!


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Post by: lovinclay on July 29, 2008, 01:36:27 PM
Thea, I'm glad your son is ok.  Prayers going out to everyone else.


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Post by: ClayHeart on July 29, 2008, 01:46:03 PM
I just e-mailed my aunt who lives in Costa Mesa, which is in southern California.  She said it shook for about 15 seconds where she was.  Her internet was still working, but her land line phone and cell phone aren't working at the moment.  I don't think she was close enough to where the epicenter was to get any real damage, but she did feel it.

To Shelley, Thea, and any other of you from southern Cal, hope all of you anywhere near the quake are OK.

Debbie


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Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 02:20:14 PM

To Shelley, Thea, and any other of you from southern Cal, hope all of you anywhere near the quake are OK.

Debbie

 :hugg  Thanks everyone. I am home now. The main quake was just outside of LA but we all felt it from San Diego over to OC as well as in LA. Everyone I talked to so far from those areas are fine, just shook up. What was a quiet - NO CLAY SIGHTING - day, turned into quite an interesting few moments!  Thanks again to everyone, and glad everyone else in So Cal are ok.

Has anyone heard from Johanna today though? She's the only one I haven't seen check in yet.
Shelley


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Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 29, 2008, 03:48:41 PM
California is having earthquakes and we are having tornados. Hope everyone is okay on the west coast.


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Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 03:55:30 PM
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California is having earthquakes and we are having tornados. Hope everyone is okay on the west coast.


MEESA, we've been hearing about tornadoes in Kansas. I'm hoping you and your loved ones will be OK.  :hugg  We're in for some severe thunderstorms here in Illinois once again.  I'm worried about my mother, who lives across the state on the Iowa border. They just got their power back on after a 3-day outages, and it looks as if they could have the same thing happen again.  If that happens, looks like we'll be driving over there to bring her back here. 

CLAYHEART, thanks for the good wishes about SoCal.  I live in northern Illinois, but my 25-year old son lives out in Los Angeles.  Which is why I'm very concerned.

SHELLEY, glad you made it home safely.  My son told me that the best thing to do during a quake is to put your head under the bed.  Huh???  Is he pulling my leg????  :para :lol


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Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 29, 2008, 03:58:33 PM
Thea, glad your son is safe

Shelley, glad you got down from the 13th floor -- stay safe

Meesa, hope the tornados stay away from you tonight.  Your area has certainly had enough for one year. 

Johanna, if you are around -- check in

Everyone else stay safe -- wherever you are


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Post by: Sundancer on July 29, 2008, 05:28:32 PM
Earthquakes! Tornadoes! The world's going to pieces! :para

It's all that smuttin', I tell ya. :blush


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Post by: clayharmony on July 29, 2008, 05:36:44 PM
Alrighty now everybody:


Shake, Rattle and Roll!


I've got some PMs to return, but I thought I'd check in here first.   :wave Well, golly gee...I was in the midst of a pleasant early lunch at the Olive Garden with my psychic buddy...no, she didn't tell me first...  :smile... when we heard a roar...some what like when the space shuttle passes to make a landing...and with that a few violent jerks east and west...followed by some rolling.  We had planted ourselves in a corner booth...not near any windows...so that I could hear my friend, who does not speak loudly...like me, trained teacher that I am!  :wink ...So, no escape route seemed readily available...I grabbed onto the table, however...and the table was firmly affixed to the wall...many of the young servers were in the room with us, and were very kind...solicitous...checking in to see we felt OK.  We knew it was close...and/or large...because of the power of the shaking...and the loud sound that comes by being near the epicenter.  And...yes, we were just about 5 to 10 miles further east and a little north, in Upland...Chino Hills, the center of the quake, is located south of there for the most part.  Par for the course in So Cal...Rose and I are just about native Californians...we were off and gabbing again with in a few minutes...but it was a bit apparent who was newer to our locality...by the look of alarm on their faces.  Not to minimize things, we were fortunate...I know these events can be catastrophic...my sister survived the Whittier quake just in front of a young gal who was beheaded by a following concrete masonry wall from the Cal State University parking structure.

Okay...on to a Clay tidbit...as you know, I post generalities about the mystical/psychic material I sometimes receive...and I absolutely wish to honor not only Clay's privacy...but also everyone's sentiments about this kind of subject matter. [Feel free to scroll on by if you like, I'll understand] However, I think this one is beautiful...thus I'm going ahead with it.  He's in the middle of heavy negotiations...we'd figured that out ourselves.  What I learned today was that some of his decisions may seem unusual to a few/a lot...however he is being divinely guided as to how he proceeds  :angel ...for me, this is a very special comfort, inasmuch as I continue to believe that he is here for much more than being an adorable, hawt -if you will- entertainer...but to illuminate the way toward healing our children...and healing weary hearts.  Okay...I'll get off my soapbox now.   :hugg


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Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 05:37:24 PM
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Earthquakes! Tornadoes! The world's going to pieces!

It's all that smuttin', I tell ya.


Hallelujah and Amen, Sistah Sunny!!!  :lol

WILSON BARB, thank you.  :hugg


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Post by: Glory on July 29, 2008, 06:16:00 PM



                              WELL I AM NO SMUTTER NO SIREE BOB. BUT THERE ARE A FEW AROUND HERE I KNOW . OK I LIED  :lol

                              JOHANNA WHAT KINDA DIVINE THINGS YA TALKIN BOUT I WANT HIM TO SING TO ME AGAIN.AND HELP CHILDREN.


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Post by: wisconsinmaniac on July 29, 2008, 06:34:53 PM
Just jumping in for a moment to say that I am glad that the California earthquake spared Johanna, Shelley and also Thea's California son.  Thea - Is that the son who will be getting married this fall? 

I'm shutting down the computer because we are under a tornado/thunderstorm warning. :para  During our last storm, a power surge wiped out my external drive.   :para   Much $$$$$$ later, all is well . . . but I'm playing this one wiser. :blush

Stay safe everybody!


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Post by: GWENN on July 29, 2008, 06:54:14 PM
I HAD A WONDERFUL NIGHT.  BARRY AND I WERE OUTSIDE LISTENING TO THIS COUNTRY SH** AND I HEAR MY NAME.  2 OF THE WOMEN I WORKED WITH FOR YEARS WERE OUT WALKING AND DECIDED TO STOP BY.  I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM IN A YEAR.   IT WAS SOOOOO MUCH FUN.  WE TALKED AND LAUGHED.  A GOOD TIME.

I TALKED WITH LORRIE.  ALL IS WELL WITH HER.  EATHQUAKES  BE DAMNED.

GWENN


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Post by: Sundancer on July 29, 2008, 06:56:47 PM
I HAD A WONDERFUL NIGHT.  BARRY AND I WERE OUTSIDE LISTENING TO THIS COUNTRY SH** AND I HEAR MY NAME.  2 OF THE WOMEN I WORKED WITH FOR YEARS WERE OUT WALKING AND DECIDED TO STOP BY.  I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM IN A YEAR.   IT WAS SOOOOO MUCH FUN.  WE TALKED AND LAUGHED.  A GOOD TIME.

And you didn't have to keep listening to that "country sh**"! :lol :thumb


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 29, 2008, 07:11:26 PM
Alrighty now everybody:


Shake, Rattle and Roll!


I've got some PMs to return, but I thought I'd check in here first.   :wave Well, golly gee...I was in the midst of a pleasant early lunch at the Olive Garden with my psychic buddy...no, she didn't tell me first...  :smile... when we heard a roar...some what like when the space shuttle passes to make a landing...and with that a few violent jerks east and west...followed by some rolling.  We had planted ourselves in a corner booth...not near any windows...so that I could hear my friend, who does not speak loudly...like me, trained teacher that I am!  :wink ...So, no escape route seemed readily available...I grabbed onto the table, however...and the table was firmly affixed to the wall...many of the young servers were in the room with us, and were very kind...solicitous...checking in to see we felt OK.  We knew it was close...and/or large...because of the power of the shaking...and the loud sound that comes by being near the epicenter.  And...yes, we were just about 5 to 10 miles further east and a little north, in Upland...Chino Hills, the center of the quake, is located south of there for the most part.  Par for the course in So Cal...Rose and I are just about native Californians...we were off and gabbing again with in a few minutes...but it was a bit apparent who was newer to our locality...by the look of alarm on their faces.  Not to minimize things, we were fortunate...I know these events can be catastrophic...my sister survived the Whittier quake just in front of a young gal who was beheaded by a following concrete masonry wall from the Cal State University parking structure.

Okay...on to a Clay tidbit...as you know, I post generalities about the mystical/psychic material I sometimes receive...and I absolutely wish to honor not only Clay's privacy...but also everyone's sentiments about this kind of subject matter. [Feel free to scroll on by if you like, I'll understand] However, I think this one is beautiful...thus I'm going ahead with it.  He's in the middle of heavy negotiations...we'd figured that out ourselves.  What I learned today was that some of his decisions may seem unusual to a few/a lot...however he is being divinely guided as to how he proceeds  :angel ...for me, this is a very special comfort, inasmuch as I continue to believe that he is here for much more than being an adorable, hawt -if you will- entertainer...but to illuminate the way toward healing our children...and healing weary hearts.  Okay...I'll get off my soapbox now.   :hugg



THANKS FOR CHECKING IN! WHEW!   :shappy  Shelley

PS  I know psychics and never thought to ask them about Clay - duh.  :bduh  Anyway, I like what you posted!


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Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 07:19:27 PM
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Thea - Is that the son who will be getting married this fall? 


Thanks for your good wishes, BARBARA!  No, this is my younger son who is the graduate student at USC.  (My older Chicago son is the one getting married in November!) However, my CA son's girlfriend lives not far from the epicentre of the quake.  Fortunately she was at work in "beautiful downtown Burbank" at the time! 

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Okay...on to a Clay tidbit...as you know, I post generalities about the mystical/psychic material I sometimes receive...and I absolutely wish to honor not only Clay's privacy...but also everyone's sentiments about this kind of subject matter. [Feel free to scroll on by if you like, I'll understand] However, I think this one is beautiful...thus I'm going ahead with it.  He's in the middle of heavy negotiations...we'd figured that out ourselves.  What I learned today was that some of his decisions may seem unusual to a few/a lot...however he is being divinely guided as to how he proceeds   ...for me, this is a very special comfort, inasmuch as I continue to believe that he is here for much more than being an adorable, hawt -if you will- entertainer...but to illuminate the way toward healing our children...and healing weary hearts.  Okay...I'll get off my soapbox now.   


Well, JOHANNA, if I've ever had a great desire to believe your psychic friend, I'd say it's right now!  :lol   And I'm so glad you're OK after the earthquake.  :hugg  I guess the best thing to do would have been to hide under the table????  :para

GLORY, how ya doin't this evening? 


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Post by: Sundancer on July 29, 2008, 07:21:59 PM
He's in the middle of heavy negotiations...we'd figured that out ourselves.  What I learned today was that some of his decisions may seem unusual to a few/a lot...

That's about par for the course. :wink


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Post by: claydevotee on July 29, 2008, 07:22:26 PM
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BARRY AND I WERE OUTSIDE LISTENING TO THIS COUNTRY SH**


 :lmao  GWENN, the way you obviously feel about listening to Barry's "Country Sh** is probably not much different from the way I'm feeling watching Phil's favorite new obsession:  "Bones" reruns!  I can tell he has a real thing about the female star (what's her name?)   :lol


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Post by: Moonshot on July 29, 2008, 07:53:18 PM
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BARRY AND I WERE OUTSIDE LISTENING TO THIS COUNTRY SH**


 :lmao  GWENN, the way you obviously feel about listening to Barry's "Country Sh** is probably not much different from the way I'm feeling watching Phil's favorite new obsession:  "Bones" reruns!  I can tell he has a real thing about the female star (what's her name?)   :lol

I LOVE Bones! You're thinking of Emily Deschanel who portrays Temperance Brennan.


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Post by: Glory on July 29, 2008, 08:18:59 PM


                               THEA I AM GOOD ,I KINDA LIKE BONES, WOULD LOVE TO JUMP CLAY'S BONES.  :bigsmile :blush I JUST CAN'T HELP SMUTTIN. ITS IN MY BONES. :lol  THAT WAS BAD, HUH. :para


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Post by: mimi on July 30, 2008, 03:26:39 AM
Glory~ You're bad to the bone!!!! :bigsmile   ( but in a good way)


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Post by: fhmmany2 on July 30, 2008, 05:39:10 AM
Good Morning! If you have Yahoo email, you may not get two emails Aaron Hall just sent out for those going to the Gala - if you did not get the emails this morning, go read  this morning's ANN - I have posted both emails there. Aaron requested that they be posted on message boards just in case.


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Post by: GWENN on July 30, 2008, 05:54:42 AM
MORNING--

OY.  MY STOMACH DOESN'T FEEL ALL THAT GOOD.  TOO MUCH WINE, I THINK.  OY.

I AM SO GLAD EVERYONE IS SAFE.  EARTHQUAKES ARE SCARY.  VERY SCARY.  BUT TORNADOES ARE A PHOBIA OF MINE.  I COULD NEVER LIVE IN THE MIDWEST BECAUSE OF THEM.  MAYBE FROM AN EARLY FEAR AFTER WATCHING THE WIZARD OF OZ.  I DON'T KNOW.  I AM JUST GLAD THAT EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE FINE.

JOHANNA--I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PSYCHICS.  HAVE BEEN LEARNING A LOT OVER THE PAST 4 1/2 YEARS FROM JILL.  THUS TIME, I HOPE YOURS IS RIGHT.  NO IDEA WHAT THESE NEGOTIATIONS COULD BE, BUT I HOPE IT IS GOOD FOR HIS CAREER.  I DON'T THINK THIS FANDOM IS EVER HAPPY WITH HIS DECISIONS.  I AM KIND OF USED TO THAT.  I JUST WANT HIM TO BE HAPPY AND THAT HE IS AROUND TO ENTERTAIN.

GWENN


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Post by: claydevotee on July 30, 2008, 06:51:25 AM
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I LOVE Bones! You're thinking of Emily Deschanel who portrays Temperance Brennan.

MICHELLE, thanks for giving the "Bones lady" a name!  After all, I should know the name of the official "Other Woman" in my life!  :lol

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THEA I AM GOOD ,I KINDA LIKE BONES, WOULD LOVE TO JUMP CLAY'S BONES.    I JUST CAN'T HELP SMUTTIN. ITS IN MY BONES.   THAT WAS BAD, HUH.

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Glory~ You're bad to the bone!!!!    ( but in a good way)
:lmao  MARLENE, good one!    :clap
GLORY, where would we be here without your smuttin' ways, woman???  :hugg

GWENN,  sorry your tummy doesn't feel good this morning.    :comfort

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Good Morning! If you have Yahoo email, you may not get two emails Aaron Hall just sent out for those going to the Gala - if you did not get the emails this morning, go read  this morning's ANN - I have posted both emails there. Aaron requested that they be posted on message boards just in case.
FRANKIE, kudos for always being on top of things.  I don't know how you do it with all of the craziness going on in your household these days.   :eek

Very, very hot day (for the Midwest, at least).  'Going up to the '90s this afternoon.  I need to get out for a walk with Mimi 3 before it gets too hot.  :dog  She is much better-behaved after we wear her out.

TTYL.  :sonic 

P.S.  Sending out no-earthquake vibes to everybody in SoCal.  :para  That includes JOHANNA, SHELLEY,LORRIE,  my USC son and some others!



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on July 30, 2008, 07:07:17 AM
:dog  She is much better-behaved after we wear her out.

 :rofl


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 30, 2008, 09:08:29 AM
He's in the middle of heavy negotiations...we'd figured that out ourselves.  What I learned today was that some of his decisions may seem unusual to a few/a lot...

That's about par for the course. :wink


The wording, "unusual to a few/alot" sorta scares me.   :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: PHILLYLUVSCLAY on July 30, 2008, 09:10:08 AM
He's in the middle of heavy negotiations...we'd figured that out ourselves.  What I learned today was that some of his decisions may seem unusual to a few/a lot...

That's about par for the course. :wink


The wording, "unusual to a few/alot" sorta scares me.   :para

PERHAPS A TALK SHOW WOULD UNNERVE A FEW FANS...


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on July 30, 2008, 09:19:24 AM
 :wave

Good Morning Again!

Beth -  :hugg thank you again for posting the Caregiver cover in the Magazine Thread - I appreciate that so much - there is no way I could have gotten to see it unless I had gotten online and bought one.

I like hearing about what Johanna's friend says - sometime the horoscopes that Philly posts just sound so much like Clay - makes you go Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claymate27 on July 30, 2008, 09:22:53 AM
 :wave

I love Bones too and NCIS....on NCIS "Abby" and "Ducky " are my favorites.....


(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff188/lennonclayton/pics%20of%20me/Whatever%20pics/Twilight%20stuff/NCIS%20stuff/abby-and-mcgee-ncis-235676_100_100.gif)


(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff188/lennonclayton/Funny%20Clay%20Stuff/booth_clayhorse1.gif)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 30, 2008, 10:59:10 AM
BEEN RUNNING FOR HOURS AND ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS BE IN BED.

BARRY HAD TO GET TO A DOCTOR.  HIS BACK MUSCLES ARE SO TIGHT AND HE IS IN SO MUCH SIATIC (SP) PAIN.  HE IS ON MEGA DOSE OF PREDNIZONE.  HE IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE A MUSCLE RELAXER 3 TIMES A DAY AND REFUSES BECAUSE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GO TO HIS BF'S TOMORROW FOR AN OVERNIGHT AND HE IS AFRAID TO DRIVE SO HE PROMISED HE WOULD START TAKING THEM WHEN WE GET HOME FRIDAY.  I ASKED HIM WHEN HE GOT HIS MEDICAL DEGREE?  AND IF SO, HOW COME WE AREN'T RICH?  MEN ARE JUST INCREDIBLE.  THEN A FEW ERRANDS BECAUSE ONCE HE DOES START TAKING THE FLEXERALL, HE WILL NOT DRIVE.  OY.

MICKI-- :hugg

THEA--I HAVE TO TAKE THE PUPS OUT LATER SINCE BARRY CAN'T.  IF I DON'T FEEL BETTER AND IT DOESN'T GET COOLER, THEY AREN'T GONG ANYWHERE.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 30, 2008, 10:59:27 AM
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P.S.  Sending out no-earthquake vibes to everybody in SoCal.  :para  That includes JOHANNA, SHELLEY,LORRIE,  my USC son and some others!



 :smile Thanks for the shout out. I appears we all survived. So now...where is CLAY?  :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 30, 2008, 11:11:34 AM
Gwenn - I hope Barry gets to feeling better. I take Flexeril and Celebrex for my back and they do wonders!

I listened to Houston SRHP this morning while I walked. I remember laughing so much that night! And we almost had to swim to get there.  :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 30, 2008, 11:19:45 AM
What is Flexeril?  I know Celebrex is an anti-inflamatory drug. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 30, 2008, 11:20:26 AM
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BARRY HAD TO GET TO A DOCTOR.  HIS BACK MUSCLES ARE SO TIGHT AND HE IS IN SO MUCH SIATIC (SP) PAIN.  HE IS ON MEGA DOSE OF PREDNIZONE.  HE IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE A MUSCLE RELAXER 3 TIMES A DAY AND REFUSES BECAUSE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GO TO HIS BF'S TOMORROW FOR AN OVERNIGHT AND HE IS AFRAID TO DRIVE SO HE PROMISED HE WOULD START TAKING THEM WHEN WE GET HOME FRIDAY.  I ASKED HIM WHEN HE GOT HIS MEDICAL DEGREE?  AND IF SO, HOW COME WE AREN'T RICH?  MEN ARE JUST INCREDIBLE.  THEN A FEW ERRANDS BECAUSE ONCE HE DOES START TAKING THE FLEXERALL, HE WILL NOT DRIVE.  OY.
Oy. Men. :headache

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THEA--I HAVE TO TAKE THE PUPS OUT LATER SINCE BARRY CAN'T.  IF I DON'T FEEL BETTER AND IT DOESN'T GET COOLER, THEY AREN'T GONG ANYWHERE.

Do what I sometimes do when I don't feeling like walking the dog.  Hire a preteen in the neighborhood to walk them.  The kids in our neighborhood are more than willing to do that for $5 per mile.  Yup, that's inflation for you.  :bigsmile   It's just nice to know I'm not a complete slave to Mimi3.  :wink

SHELLEY--Has the earth moved for you today?  (Couldn't resist  :para).
CLAYMATE 27.  Hubby is also a fan of NCIS.  He's moved on from "Law & Order" reruns.  Finally.

Well, ladies....hmmmm...Clay content:  
Quote
The wording, "unusual to a few/alot" sorta scares me.


 MICKI, I'm with you and PHILLY on that one.    Let's hope the psychic is way off base on that.  

It's too dang hot today. :fan2  And unfortunately it has nothing to do with Clay.  :arg









Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on July 30, 2008, 11:22:13 AM
What is Flexeril?  I know Celebrex is an anti-inflamatory drug. 

Flexeril (generic name is cyclobenzaprine) is a muscle relaxer.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claymate27 on July 30, 2008, 11:22:50 AM
 :wave
http://www.drugs.com/flexeril.html

Flexeril
Generic Name: cyclobenzaprine (sye kloe BEN za preen)
Brand Names: Amrix, Fexmid, Flexeril

What is Flexeril?
 

Flexeril is a muscle relaxant. It works by blocking nerve impulses (or pain sensations) that are sent to your brain.

Flexeril is used together with rest and physical therapy to treat skeletal muscle conditions such as pain or injury.

Flexeril may also be used for other purposes not listed in this medication guide.



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 30, 2008, 11:23:35 AM
Thanks, Meesa.  I Goodsearched it......way to many side effects and dangers for me! 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 30, 2008, 11:29:22 AM
Thank you, too, Claymate2.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 30, 2008, 11:31:36 AM
I took cyclobenzeprine for a couple of days for my muscle spasms. Knocked me out for 10 hrs. I cut it in half, then into fourths. Finally I said the heck with it and took alleve. Works for me.
I have these intense reactions to most drugs of that kind-tylenol pm I have to be sure I dont need to get up early, then only take one. Pamprin knocked me out for 12 hours. It takes me a while to wake up from anesthesia

So forget recreational drugs- I would sleep through all the hallucinations so whats the point?

However, I can hold my likker pretty good!!  :lol Only I hardly ever do because my ex was an alcoholic and I don't want to experience whatever.

sex on the beach...........now THATS what I'm talking about!!

And if Clay was there, even better. Clay is a natural high-don't need anything else!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claymate27 on July 30, 2008, 11:50:09 AM
 :hugg


Anytime..here to help...where did my seven go...?.


*wonders*... :hypno



NCIS....is amazing......my new tv addiction...


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 30, 2008, 11:50:13 AM
The wording, "unusual to a few/alot" sorta scares me.   :para

They kind of mean opposite things, so I wouldn't take it too seriously, Micki. :shrug


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 30, 2008, 12:04:16 PM
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SHELLEY--Has the earth moved for you today?  (Couldn't resist  :para).


 :roflmao  Is that your subtle way of saying there was a CLAY sighting in my area? Be still my heart!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on July 30, 2008, 12:15:38 PM
re: ""unusual to a few/alot" sorta scares me."  This is intriguing!

(I think Clay Aiken would be much more charismatic, and have a much better rapport with guests, as a replacement for Larry King than would Ryan Seacrest.)

Whatever Clay chooses to do, I sure hope there's some room in those plans for him to continue to be able to sing to us...

Life, at its best, unfolds and evolves.   Clay's entering a new decade and, we expect, a whole new family life as a dad.  How exciting this all is!!!  I agree that he is guided -- not only from spirit but also from his own wisdom, his honesty with himself, his participation in charting his own course and cocreating his own destiny. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 30, 2008, 12:21:46 PM


BTW  When the computer went down and the quake happened a few days later, I went to another site - CB - and people were posting on there too - I realized I should give y'all my other name on that site. Same photo of Clay, name is: ClayfaninCalif - I know, it's not very imaginative.  :wink
 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 30, 2008, 12:22:28 PM
re: ""unusual to a few/alot" sorta scares me."  This is intriguing!

(I think Clay Aiken would be much more charismatic, and have a much better rapport with guests, as a replacement for Larry King than would Ryan Seacrest.)

Whatever Clay chooses to do, I sure hope there's some room in those plans for him to continue to be able to sing to us...

Life, at its best, unfolds and evolves.   Clay's entering a new decade and, we expect, a whole new family life as a dad.  How exciting this all is!!!  I agree that he is guided -- not only from spirit but also from his own wisdom, his honesty with himself, his participation in charting his own course and cocreating his own destiny. 

 :clap WORD


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on July 30, 2008, 12:24:56 PM


I realized I should give y'all my other name on that site. Same photo of Clay, name is: ClayfaninCalif - I know, it's not very imaginative.  :wink

Neither is Beth!  :bduh :roflmao  Bet you can't guess what my name is!?!  :lol



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 30, 2008, 12:53:55 PM
BETH--THIS BOARD IS FULL OF IMAGINATIVE WOMEN.  PAMELA, MARILYN, ANGELA, ME.......  WHEN I SIGNED UP ALMOST 5 YEARS AGO, I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD ACTUALLY POST.  SO IT NEVER OCCURRED TO ME TO COME UP WITH A REAL SCREEN NAME. 

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HE IS GONNA DO. I JUST HOPE HE DOES SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS HIS PERSONALITY TO SHINE AND HIS VOX TO SOAR. 

THE CH HAS A KIND OF GAME GOING WHERE THE QUESTION IS:

WHAT ARE THE 5 FUNNIEST CLAY MOMENTS?

THERE ARE SO MANY THAT I HAD A HARD TIME THINKING.  BUT I FEEL LIKE PLAYING BECAUSE CLAY'S SENSE OF HUMOR IS ALMOST AS IMPORTANT TO ME AS HIS VOICE.

1.  CLOSING NIGHT GUARDING PRINCE HERBERT.  OMG.  IT WAS THE BEST.
2.  ALL OF THE PALA BANTER BUT ESPECIALLY SINGING TO FLAT CLAY.
3.  HIS LEG UP AT CHARLOTTE ON THAT YOUNG GIRL.  I DON'T THINK I EVER COULD BELIEVE THAT.
4.  THE BANTER OF CHRISTMAS 2006.  TOO MUCH TO SINGLE OUT ONE SPOT.  HE WAS A TOTAL RIOT THAT WHOLE TOUR.
5.  "THEY WILL BE LOCKED."  LOVED IT. 

ANYONE ELSE?

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 30, 2008, 12:58:39 PM


I realized I should give y'all my other name on that site. Same photo of Clay, name is: ClayfaninCalif - I know, it's not very imaginative.  :wink

Neither is Beth!  :bduh :roflmao  Bet you can't guess what my name is!?!  :lol



 :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 30, 2008, 01:01:06 PM

THE CH HAS A KIND OF GAME GOING WHERE THE QUESTION IS:

WHAT ARE THE 5 FUNNIEST CLAY MOMENTS?


2.  ALL OF THE PALA BANTER BUT ESPECIALLY SINGING TO FLAT CLAY.


I agree Gwenn. I love the banter as much as the singing. And since I was at Pala almost a year ago, I LOVED that flat clay "duet"!
Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 30, 2008, 01:01:59 PM
BETH--THIS BOARD IS FULL OF IMAGINATIVE WOMEN.  PAMELA, MARILYN, ANGELA, ME.
GWENN

Absolutely true! I love all of you gals!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 30, 2008, 01:02:45 PM
OK I am at work so I better actually DO something! See you later. Hope you feel better, Gwenn.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 30, 2008, 01:17:48 PM
SO I GUESS I WAS TOO LATE TO COMMENT ON THE DRUG THINGY AND NOW WE ARE ON TO IMAGINATIVE NAMES?

MY REAL NAME IS BRUNHILDA- I JUST POST UNDER THE OTHER NAME TO CONFUSE PEOPLE. BRUNHILDA CONJURES UP A PICTURE OF A ZAFTIG BRUTISH WOMAN AND I WANTED TO DISPEL THAT IMAGE SO....................OH WAIT, I AM ZAFTIG- OH WELL.


nevah mind!


BUT I DEFINITELY DON'T SING OPERA VERY WELL!! OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR THAT MATTER!! :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 30, 2008, 01:39:43 PM
I took cyclobenzeprine for a couple of days for my muscle spasms. Knocked me out for 10 hrs. I cut it in half, then into fourths. Finally I said the heck with it and took alleve. Works for me.
I have these intense reactions to most drugs of that kind-tylenol pm I have to be sure I dont need to get up early, then only take one. Pamprin knocked me out for 12 hours. It takes me a while to wake up from anesthesia

So forget recreational drugs- I would sleep through all the hallucinations so whats the point?

However, I can hold my likker pretty good!!  :lol Only I hardly ever do because my ex was an alcoholic and I don't want to experience whatever.

sex on the beach...........now THATS what I'm talking about!!

And if Clay was there, even better. Clay is a natural high-don't need anything else!!

 :word   I TAKE A TYLENOL PM EVERY NIGHT FOR A SLEEPING PILL....KEEPS ME OUT UNTIL MORNING......MUSCLE RELAXERS OF ANY KIND PUT ME OUT FOR HOURS AND HOURS....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 30, 2008, 01:51:26 PM
I took cyclobenzeprine for a couple of days for my muscle spasms. Knocked me out for 10 hrs. I cut it in half, then into fourths. Finally I said the heck with it and took alleve. Works for me.
I have these intense reactions to most drugs of that kind-tylenol pm I have to be sure I dont need to get up early, then only take one. Pamprin knocked me out for 12 hours. It takes me a while to wake up from anesthesia

So forget recreational drugs- I would sleep through all the hallucinations so whats the point?

However, I can hold my likker pretty good!!  :lol Only I hardly ever do because my ex was an alcoholic and I don't want to experience whatever.

sex on the beach...........now THATS what I'm talking about!!

And if Clay was there, even better. Clay is a natural high-don't need anything else!!

 :word   I TAKE A TYLENOL PM EVERY NIGHT FOR A SLEEPING PILL....KEEPS ME OUT UNTIL MORNING......MUSCLE RELAXERS OF ANY KIND PUT ME OUT FOR HOURS AND HOURS....

 :hugs


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 30, 2008, 01:52:24 PM
Hi ya CMers... :wave

Just a quick add on...will return to post more later... about the 'unusual decisions/divinely guided...' the vibe I got from that is that we know that Clay has shared how he uses his faith to be directed in his life...and we have seen how his career hasn't unfolded in all that linear a fashion as respects strictly being a pop singer.  Some could consider the Spamalot run as such an example...I recall a number of fans quetioned that...and now, should Clay become a dad this summer...well we know what a stir that possibility has been...not to re-ignite that again...  :para

I bring over a few tidbits which I find positive, intriquing and for me comforting...and I hope the same for you all... where I am at personally...well that is easy, since mainer posted it beautifully:

" Life, at its best, unfolds and evolves.   Clay's entering a new decade and, we expect, a whole new family life as a dad.  How exciting this all is!!!  I agree that he is guided -- not only from spirit but also from his own wisdom, his honesty with himself, his participation in charting his own course and co-creating his own destiny."

What a fabulous way of expressing it, mainer!!  :clap

Next post later today...I've been gabbing on the phone...not even showered yet  :blush...I'd like to join in and play the 5 funny Clay moments...(the CH game inspired me to watch the Ashville bugs clack again... :lol   !)  




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 30, 2008, 02:25:02 PM
NEWS FROM THE CB.....WHAT HE HAS BEEN UP TO.....



Edited to add new info 7/30/08
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I just found this at the Food Network.  I saw this info weeks ago on the CB too, but I was so thrilled to actually find it on Paula Deen's website. I love seeing Clay's name! I love seeing Clay!
 

Claytina UNC posted this tonight 7/29


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I was just watching the food network and a commercial literally just played that was talking about the new season of Paula Dean's show, "Paula's Party" and they showed very very short clips of a lot the guests she was going to have on and i am 99.9% sure Clay was there!!!!!

I'm not sure if this had already been posted or if someone else saw it as well, but i think this is really exciting!! I love the food network SO MUCH and of course, Clay, so i think this is going to be an awesome show!!!

I forgot when they said the first show of the new season would be, but i can easily find out and post =)


NC Claydy posted;
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I saw that commercial last night, too. It was definately Clay, and they said the new season starts this Saturday. Maybe they are changing her time slot from Fridays to Saturdays? We should be seeing Clay on her show
   


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Anyone up for a teenie little bit of drought relief...and I do mean meager.?? But right now, anything's better than nothing, right???

I recorded the Paula Dean commercial with Clay. I don't have a way to do a cap from the video so I took a picture of my TV. He was literally on for a split second so I could only get one frame that wasn't blurred. Isn't he adorkable?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/yoda0wise1/My%20screencaps/th_PaulaDeanpromo.jpg)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 30, 2008, 02:25:21 PM


                                 HEY I GOTS A IMAGINATION. OH MIGHTY ONE  TO THE RESCUE.

                   KINDA WORRIES A TAD ABOUT THAT PHYSIC THING :roflmaoJUST SO HE DOESN'T TAKE UP SCUBA DIVING I WILL BREATH A SIGH OF RELEIF. :lol

                      DRUGS NOT GOOD FOR ME EITHER 1 VALIUM I AM OUT FOR 3 DAYS. NOT PRETTY. REMEMBER CLAY WAS LAID OUT IN THE FLOOR IN SOLVENIA FROM PERCOCET.I COULD HAVE HELPED HIM UP FASTER THAN KRISTY.OR KEPT HIM DOWN. :blush


                          WE HAVE HAD A NICE DAY HERE THEA NOT TO HOT,

                 WONDER WHAT CLAY IS DOING TODAY I BET IF THAT BABY NEWS HAD NOT BROKE WE WOULD HAVE HAD A BLOG BY NOW,BET HES AFRAID TO SPEAK THINKING HE COULD GET BOUNCED ON AGAIN. JUST A HI I AM GOOD, LIKE FRANKIE SAID THIS MORNING WOULD BE ENOUGH FOR ME.

                         WELL I DRANK A SHAKE AWHILE AGO,DIDN'T AGREE WITH ME SO I AM GONNA GO LIE DOWN, ALWAYS SOMETHING  :para

                     GWENN HOPE BARRY FEELS BETTER :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 30, 2008, 02:54:30 PM
NEWS FROM THE CB.....WHAT HE HAS BEEN UP TO.....



Edited to add new info 7/30/08
Quote
I just found this at the Food Network.  I saw this info weeks ago on the CB too, but I was so thrilled to actually find it on Paula Deen's website. I love seeing Clay's name! I love seeing Clay!
 


Thanks for bringing the news, Dudley. The only thing is that this was filmed BEFORE he went to Somalia-check out the hair. I am hoping that this presages a new spate of appearances to perhaps promote a new single such as "Ashes"  or "Everything I don't need"- someone had mentioned a second round of publicity and I hope this wasn't just wishful thinking. I hope something happens because the first single is disappearing fast, and I think any one of these two would do better on the "radio" heheheh than On My Way Here. We can only dream.....................


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 30, 2008, 02:59:25 PM
I am hoping that this presages a new spate of appearances to perhaps promote a new single such as "Ashes"  or "Everything I don't need"

Everything I Don't Need :pray


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on July 30, 2008, 03:17:47 PM
I am hoping that this presages a new spate of appearances to perhaps promote a new single such as "Ashes"  or "Everything I don't need"

Everything I Don't Need :pray


WORD.....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 30, 2008, 03:18:22 PM
I am hoping that this presages a new spate of appearances to perhaps promote a new single such as "Ashes"  or "Everything I don't need"

Everything I Don't Need :pray


WORD.....

YEP.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 30, 2008, 03:20:42 PM
The CV is compiling a list of "Things that Clay is doing"
Heres mine:
1. Clay is lining up all the prime time shows, and Early Show, Mike and Juliet (sans the slimebucket)- Letterman, Ferguson, SNL, Oprah -to sing his new single;
2. guest spots on CSI, Law and Order, Bones(heh heh), some as bad guy, some as good guy;
3. singing on SYTYCD;
4. Voice overs or cameo's on commercials (McD, Krispy Kreme, Kraft Mac & Cheese, Dockers, the Gap for rivet jeans);
5. Portraying the voice in a new Disney animated cartoon featuring songs;
6. performing the lead song on two different blockbuster movies;
7. portraying Ron Weasleys magical cousin on the next instalment of "Harry Potter" *(what? Ron has red hair!!);
8. playing Nathan Detroit in Guys and Dolls for a limited two month run;
9. booking Christmas concert for November and December ALL OVER the US;
10. Playing a one month engagement at one of the big casino's in Vegas so we can all visit and gamble;
11. planning his blockbuster spring tour for On My Way Here which again will be all over the US.
12. Having a four hour M&G with Marilyn which includes dinner;
13. writing his second book.
14. Writing four new songs that are out of this world and that will be top of the charts.

What? He's been resting!! I don't want him to get bored!!


ETA: *Clay already has the "pring" down pat


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on July 30, 2008, 03:21:22 PM
   
     I just checked my new TV Guide and Paula will be on Sat. 10pm. The subject
   
      is  Southern Barbecue......... Maybe this will be Clay"s night,. we know how
 
       he loves his Southern BBQ. That is Sat. Aug. 6th. Keep checking!!!
   
                                                         Betty
                                       


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 30, 2008, 03:29:01 PM
I am hoping that this presages a new spate of appearances to perhaps promote a new single such as "Ashes"  or "Everything I don't need"

Everything I Don't Need :pray


WORD.....

YEP.

GWENN

I agree.
Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 30, 2008, 03:30:01 PM
BETTY--

I THINK IT IS SEPT. 6.  THAT IS A SATURDAY.  AUGUST 6 IS WEDNESDAY.  I KNOW CAUSE ITS MY BIRTHDAY.   :bigsmile

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 30, 2008, 03:46:08 PM
I am hoping that this presages a new spate of appearances to perhaps promote a new single such as "Ashes"  or "Everything I don't need"

Everything I Don't Need :pray


ABSOLUTELY       :please      :cross      :please


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 30, 2008, 03:51:26 PM
I am hoping that this presages a new spate of appearances to perhaps promote a new single such as "Ashes"  or "Everything I don't need"

Everything I Don't Need :pray


ABSOLUTELY       :please      :cross      :please

It sounds like it's unanimous on "Everything I Don't Need"!    :clap  I love the funky sound, especially the Steely Dan instrumentation.



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Post by: GWENN on July 30, 2008, 03:57:03 PM
SO, NOW HOW DO WE TELL RCA? :bduh :bduh :bduh

GWENN


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Post by: dudley5 on July 30, 2008, 04:27:12 PM
PAULA'S PARTY IS ON THIS SAT AUG 2 FOR THE FIRST SHOW OF HER NEW SEASON ACCORDING TO THE ANNOUNCEMENT DURING HER SHOW TODAY AND MY DVR IS SCHULDED TO RECORD THE NEW SEASON AND IT SET ITSELF UP FOR THIS SATURDAY.....AS FAR AS OUR SATELLITE SCHEDULE GOES......BUT CLAY IS NOT ONE OF THE  GUESTS FOR THIS FIRST SHOW.....AUG 9 IS WHAT I SHOW FOR THE NEXT ONE BUT IT IS TOO EARLY FOR IT TO LET ME SEE WHO WILL BE ON WITH HER THEN....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on July 30, 2008, 04:27:57 PM
Yea!..."Everything We Don't Need...the melodic line...the original harmonic changes/modulations...the spot on back up talent...Clay's vocals just close the deal!


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Post by: Glory on July 30, 2008, 04:44:55 PM


                        YEP WHAT JOHANNA SAID :smile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayfannj on July 30, 2008, 04:54:47 PM
My intuition lately keeps taking me to a place where Clay will do something new that will keep him on the West Coast closer to the baby for a while. That leaves the L.A. area or Las Vegas!!

I'm hoping to see a glimpse of him on Paula Dean's show in August. Isn't that what the original date was?


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Post by: clayharmony on July 30, 2008, 05:25:04 PM


                        YEP WHAT JOHANNA SAID :smile

Thank you Glory...  :hugg ...and thanks to all who wished me well yesterday!

Shelley...I was with Thea at the Pala...and as Thea so well described...it was splendid, postcard perfect weather that night!  We were about 1/4th the way back.  And the laughs were fabulous in addition to the singing...the orchestra...bah...but, since the Greek was coming right up...and then my concerts in NC...that was just fine.  The wonderful Claying at the Pala made up for the frightful drive out of there...eeek! :shocking  ...Thea  and I made a decision to NEVER repeat that aspect of it...if we had to pitch a tent outside the venue, first... :lol

clayfannj  ...I'm a loving your intuition...Clay near by...now that's a gift I'll happily accept!  :clap


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Post by: Glory on July 30, 2008, 05:34:15 PM



                         I THINK HE SHOULD MOVE TO BEDFORD TO ENTERTAIN ME, CAUSE I AM SPECIAL :bigsmile

                  WHERE ARE OUR SMUTTERS TONIGHT I REALLY COULD USE SOME FUN :bigsmile


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Post by: Marilyn on July 30, 2008, 05:46:35 PM
Well, I tried smutting but I must post too late at night cause no one responds.

And Clay is "Everything I DO need"


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Post by: corbet on July 30, 2008, 05:50:22 PM
   Gwen,
            I"m sorry I was wrong. Aug. 6 is a Weds. {Happy Birthday}. I should have said

         Aug. 9th. I was looking at the wrong page. It does say Southern BBQ but does"nt
     
          say who will be on. Just sounded like a Clay thing., and it is Paula.

                 I"m all mixed up today.
                                                                         Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 30, 2008, 06:17:18 PM
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My intuition lately keeps taking me to a place where Clay will do something new that will keep him on the West Coast closer to the baby for a while. That leaves the L.A. area or Las Vegas!!

MARION, I like the idea of Clay "setting up shop" in Vegas.  Maybe he could "dethrone" Wayne Newton and become the King of Vegas himself.   Or maybe he could simply create one of his own little "kingdoms" there.  It seems there's always an old place being torn down in Vegas and being replaced by a bigger and better place. 

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The wonderful Claying at the Pala made up for the frightful drive out of there...eeek!   ...Thea and I made a decision to NEVER repeat that aspect of it...if we had to pitch a tent outside the venue, first
Yup, JOHANNA.   Although you are an excellent driver,  I have not been so terrified of driving since Phil and I drove on  the road to Hana in Maui a few years ago.  I'm not a fan of hairpin turns, especially at night.   :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 30, 2008, 06:21:19 PM
And Clay is "Everything I DO need"

Marilyn, right about now I think Clay is everything we all need


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 30, 2008, 06:26:28 PM


Shelley...Iand I made a decision to NEVER repeat that aspect of it...if we had to pitch a tent outside the venue, first... :lol


 :clap I HEAR you! Since it was my birthday (hint hint i'ts coming up!!!) I actually stayed overnnight there. I will NEVER drive that at night again - eek!!
Shelley


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Post by: GWENN on July 30, 2008, 06:32:10 PM
GLORY--SMUTTING IS ALWAYS GOOD.  BUT RIGHT NOW, MY STOMACH IS STILL ANNOYING.  MAYBE CLAY COULD MAKE IT FEEL BETTER.   :bigsmile

GWENN


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Post by: clayharmony on July 30, 2008, 07:06:24 PM
OTT...anyone obtaining (or has already) a tv converter box?  Just wondering if it is worth it vs. upgrading...(I've got my main tv on cable in the living room...the bedroom tvs are smaller...and make shift for basic viewing of news et al...by the treadmill, when I activate the use of that again...hey that ol phrase once more...Hope Springs Eternal... :wink)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 30, 2008, 07:19:21 PM


                               THATS OK .

                              GWENN FEEL BETTER. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 30, 2008, 07:31:03 PM
So really, don't you think that Clay could be Ron Weasleys cute cousin who helps Harry Potter save the day? After all, he certainly works magic with us, doesn't he?


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Post by: fhmmany2 on July 30, 2008, 07:39:00 PM
 :wave

Paula's Party (the Paula Deen show that Clay is scheduled to be on) has 13 shows per season (at least that is how many they have had for the first 3 seasons. This is the fourth season. they have only posted details of the first 7 shows, and Clay is not on any of those - I just KNEW he would be on the macaroni and cheese show  :lol

Here is the link - you can click on "View All Episodes" - scroll to the bottom of the page - the shows that begin with the number 4 are this season's shows:

FOOD NETWORK - PAULA'S PARTY (http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_ip)

EDIT - Thea - this is for you - just read Newsweek - they could not mention Clay or UNICEF, but they wasted space showing 5 photos of Amy Winehouse - you had to guess which one was her wax figure from Madame Tussauds in London  :para


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Post by: claydevotee on July 30, 2008, 07:47:46 PM
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EDIT - Thea - this is for you - just read Newsweek - they could not mention Clay or UNICEF, but they wasted space showing 5 photos of Amy Winehouse - you had to guess which one was her wax figure from Madame Tussauds in London 


Thanks, FRANKIE! Ah, yes, I always welcome news about the lovely Ms. Winehouse!!!  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 30, 2008, 07:50:10 PM
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OTT...anyone obtaining (or has already) a tv converter box?  Just wondering if it is worth it vs. upgrading...(I've got my main tv on cable in the living room...the bedroom tvs are smaller...and make shift for basic viewing of news et al...by the treadmill, when I activate the use of that again...hey that ol phrase once more...Hope Springs Eternal... )
JOHANNA, IMO it's a waste of $$ to buy the converter.  You can buy new smaller TV's at Walmart starting at about $125 for a 14".


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 30, 2008, 07:52:44 PM
GWENN, I hope you feel much better in the morning.   :comfort


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayHeart on July 30, 2008, 08:06:56 PM
Have a great evening everyone.  Just spending a few quick minutes here.  Hope all of you who haven't been felling well get better real soon.  You all make me laugh, and worry, and think, and laugh some more.   :bigsmile

Nighty night.

Debbie


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Post by: mimi2 on July 30, 2008, 08:10:31 PM
GWENN  HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER.  I'LL SEND YOU A GREAT CLAY DREAM!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 30, 2008, 08:16:32 PM
Gwenn, I hope you feel better tomorrow.



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 31, 2008, 04:55:24 AM
Good morning all.
Yes, its me!! Long time no talk. Did you miss me? :lol

Its time for Clays new single to come out. The man needs to get his voice heard again. I am sure he is behind the scenes planning and scheming his next move to make us perk up our heads (and whatever else) and say WHOA!! never thought of that!! Just like he did in Spamalot.

Miss those piercing green eyes, those luscious lips and long fingers wrapping themselves round the microphone.


Gotta go- see y'all later, maybe!!! :wave


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on July 31, 2008, 05:08:00 AM
MORNING--

I FEEL SOMEWHAT BETTER. I THINK I HAD A TOUCH OF FOOD POISONING.  BUT, ALAS, I WILL LIVE.  THANKS FOR THE KIND WISHES. :ghug :ghug2 :thanks

I WILL BE COMPUTERLESS FOR TODAY AND INTO EARLY TOMORROW.  WE ARE GOING TO BARRY'S BF'S.  I THINK HE IS NUTS WITH HIS BACK, BUT HE WANTS TO GO AND SAYS HE IS OK DRIVING AND SITTING.  I AM NOT ARGUING.  I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, THOUGH.  WE ARE GOING TO A FABULOUS RESTAURANT  IN AC FOR AN EARLY BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION.  AND THE POOL WHICH I THINK WILL BE GOOD FOR BARRY.  ESPECIALLY THE HOT TUB.

MARILYN--YOU ARE ALWAYS THE OPTIMIST.  YEAH, I MISS CLAY ALSO. 

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 31, 2008, 05:52:45 AM
Gwenn, I'm glad you're starting to feel better. :hugg

Keep in mind--not only good for backs, hot tubs are great cures for food poisoning. :bigsmile



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Post by: hlg on July 31, 2008, 06:08:20 AM
Hi, someone here is trying to send me a pm, I have received 2 notifications that I have a pm, but everytime I try to access it, I get a message about a "fatal error" and something about memory capacity, I do not know how to fix it, but I am unable to read the pms.  Sorry to whoever is trying to get in touch with me.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on July 31, 2008, 06:29:33 AM
Good Morning, all!      :wave


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Post by: ILClaymate on July 31, 2008, 06:44:00 AM
Hi, someone here is trying to send me a pm, I have received 2 notifications that I have a pm, but everytime I try to access it, I get a message about a "fatal error" and something about memory capacity, I do not know how to fix it, but I am unable to read the pms.  Sorry to whoever is trying to get in touch with me.

:wave hlg.  I'm sorry you are having this problem.  We are aware that some members are having this problem.  Michael is working on getting it fixed.  In your email notification it should tell you what the pm is and who sent it.  If you need/want to get in contact with this member, let me know and I'll see what I can do.  You can email me at ilclaymate@yahoo.com.  I hope to get this fixed very soon.  Sorry!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claymate27 on July 31, 2008, 07:21:13 AM
Happy Thursday Everyone.... :bouncy :bouncy


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on July 31, 2008, 10:13:36 AM
Good morning afternoon, ladies!

I'm very busy today getting our invitation list together for the wedding in November.  Hope to be able to "play" here on CM at little bit later.

CLAY CONTENT:  Sometimes no news is good news!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claymate27 on July 31, 2008, 01:10:19 PM
Have a good night peeps..till tommorrow..

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff188/lennonclayton/pics%20of%20me/Whatever%20pics/Twilight%20stuff/TwilightteasertrailerOFFICIALHD_mpe.gif)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 31, 2008, 06:48:20 PM
Gwenn, I'm glad you're starting to feel better. :hugg

Keep in mind--not only good for backs, hot tubs are great cures for food poisoning. :bigsmile



Sundancer: Did you say the word BACK? I just changed my avi for a while to pictures of Clay's back!  :roflmao
Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on July 31, 2008, 06:50:19 PM
Well, I was referring to Mr. Gwenn's back..

but hey, whatever works! :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on July 31, 2008, 06:51:43 PM

                           THE CLAYNANTION SURE IS QUIET. I DON'T LIKE IT ONE BIT. :para

                               BEEN DEALING WITH REAL LIFE ISSUES TODAY DON'T LIKE IT ONE BIT EITHER. :lol


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Post by: WilsonClaymate on July 31, 2008, 06:57:25 PM
I just got home from work and wanted to see what had gone on today.

Too quiet, Glory, not much going on today

Everybody must be as tired as I am.




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on July 31, 2008, 07:52:59 PM
Well, I was referring to Mr. Gwenn's back..

but hey, whatever works! :wink

 :bigsmile

I know, but....I made ya look! Where is everyone tonight?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on July 31, 2008, 07:58:53 PM
I AM RIGHT HERE:
 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/marilyon/PARTS/th_JNT06_Waukegan7-1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/marilyon/PARTS/JNT06_Waukegan7-1.jpg)


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Post by: mimi2 on July 31, 2008, 08:12:01 PM
MARILYN  THANK YOU ...VERY NICE :)


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Post by: lucrezianoine on July 31, 2008, 08:21:57 PM
 :bigsmile Mighty fine piece of back if I say so misself.

Jules


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Post by: fhmmany2 on July 31, 2008, 08:42:30 PM
All right - I have to get in on this - the very best back photo ever, IMO:

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/fhmmany2/Clay%202/th_clayshirt-1.jpg) (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/fhmmany2/Clay%202/clayshirt-1.jpg)

Have a good night, everyone!

*edited to make clickable - a


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Post by: luluasst on July 31, 2008, 08:58:08 PM
I AM RIGHT HERE:
 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/marilyon/PARTS/th_JNT06_Waukegan7-1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/marilyon/PARTS/JNT06_Waukegan7-1.jpg)


 :thud
Look what you've started!
Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on August 01, 2008, 05:50:05 AM
What can I say, Clay Aiken has a cute butt!! He also has those wide shoulders and straight back- good posture!

So where did everyone go last night?

I am downloading and watching some Independent Tour videos- I only got to see one show (that was the one where I fondled Clay) and I was way back in the audience. Mostly watched on the jumbotron at Nassau Coliseum. But thats the one that gave me the thirst for more. The electricity and energy in the audience as he came down the aisle right in front of me was palpable. What excitement!!
And every concert I have attended since has been the same. The few moments right before the lights go up on stage, almost like you are holding your breath. Then the energy builds as the audience awaits. And then....the voice!!! The place erupts in cheers and screams EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!

Clay delivers...........BIG TIME!!


 :bigsmile


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Post by: mimi2 on August 01, 2008, 06:02:28 AM
YOU ARE RIGHT FHMMANY2  THAT IS THE BEST BACK SHOT...WIDE AND STRAIGHT!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on August 01, 2008, 06:05:53 AM
 :wave Happy TGIF, everybody!

mimi2 - after I posted that photo last night I remmebered something about a "no Photo" rule on CM - glad somebody "shrunk" it for me!  :lol


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Post by: Clanderson on August 01, 2008, 06:27:50 AM
 :wave Everybody.

Glory, know what you mean. Take it easy with those RL problems.

People Magazine won the bidding for the exclusive pictures of Brad and Angelina's twins. Not sure how much it was but OK Magazine bowed out of the bidding at 14 million, so it was more than that.
Oh well, at least it's going to charity.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on August 01, 2008, 06:28:27 AM
How do you make pictures clickable?  :shrug


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on August 01, 2008, 06:43:34 AM
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How do you make pictures clickable? 


 :wave BETH, there's a way to do it on Photobucket.  I do it a lot, but I'll leave the explanation to the experts.  MOONSHOT or CLANDY???

Good morning, ladies.  Nothing like a little nostalgia to rally the troops. :slick  Looking "back" is good for the soul and the libido

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/marilyon/PARTS/th_JNT06_Waukegan7-1.jpg)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mrs. c. on August 01, 2008, 06:48:25 AM
How do you make pictures clickable?  :shrug

Beth, in the  Forum Information topic there is a thread to help you do Click To Enlarge pics :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on August 01, 2008, 06:52:52 AM


                              WELL I LOVE CLAYS BUTT. :roflmao AND THE REST AIN'T TO BAD EITHER. :lol

                                WELL STILL DEALING WITH THE IRS  :bduh THEY ARE MAKING ME CRAZY.MY TAX LADY IS NOT SURE WHAT THEY WANT SO SHE IS CONTACTING ANOTHER TAX GUY. SEEMS LIKE THEY WOULD HAVE MORE TO DO THAN BUG ME. GUESS NOT HOPE WE GET ALL THIS RESOLVED SOON. SAY A PRAYER FER ME.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on August 01, 2008, 06:57:34 AM
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WELL STILL DEALING WITH THE IRS   THEY ARE MAKING ME CRAZY.MY TAX LADY IS NOT SURE WHAT THEY WANT SO SHE IS CONTACTING ANOTHER TAX GUY. SEEMS LIKE THEY WOULD HAVE MORE TO DO THAN BUG ME. GUESS NOT HOPE WE GET ALL THIS RESOLVED SOON. SAY A PRAYER FER ME.
 
 


GLORY, I'm so sorry you are still being bugged by the IRS.  It really doesn't seem fair that with all of the tax fraud going on out there they would choose to pick on you.  I'm glad you are in contact with some tax people who can possibly help you to get the IRS off your back.  Prayers definitely going out to you.

CLAY CONTENT:  I read on People.com that David Archuletta's new single "Crush" has just been released. It is high time for another Clay single to be released? (Everything I Don't Need, for example)?  RCA, how about getting off your butts????   :cuss


Title: !!
Post by: Marilyn on August 01, 2008, 07:09:03 AM
Good morning, ladies.  Nothing like a little nostalgia to rally the troops. :slick  Looking "back" is good for the soul and the libido

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/marilyon/PARTS/th_JNT06_Waukegan7-1.jpg

Thea, I see you and I posted the exact same shot-I love that one- he was adorable that day when he took off his jacket and put it on the piano-told us to talk amongst ourselves.

Glory, my friend, the IRS is totally confusing to me, and I dealt with tax returns myself. Good luck


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayHeart on August 01, 2008, 07:46:02 AM
I guess we're all wondering what Clay is up to.  Well, he did say he was taking some vacation time, so I hope he's had a chance to relax and get all rejuvenated for whenever he is out there for us again.  I think lots of people are busy doing things this summer and will get back into the swing of things in the fall.  That's when I plan on getting my SPRING cleaning done.  :lol

Debbie


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on August 01, 2008, 08:02:06 AM
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Thea, I see you and I posted the exact same shot-I love that one- he was adorable that day when he took off his jacket and put it on the piano-told us to talk amongst ourselves.

MARILYN, actually I reposted the butt shot you had already posted!  :bouncy I figured it was worth seeing again!  And yes, I remember that concert in Waukegan very well!    :thud

 
Quote
I think lots of people are busy doing things this summer and will get back into the swing of things in the fall.  That's when I plan on getting my SPRING cleaning done.
 
DEBBIE, allegedly that's what I'll be doing in the fall, as well!!!  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on August 01, 2008, 08:17:26 AM



                     JUST HAD MY BP TAKEN THROUGH THE ROOF 160/88 WAITING TO HEAR FROM MY DOC. ALSO MY TAX LADY CALLED WE ARE GOING TO RESEND THE PAPERS PLUS SOMETHING ESLEHOPE THIS DOES THE TRICK BEFORE I HAVE A HEART ATTACK OR STROKE.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on August 01, 2008, 09:15:17 AM
Glory, you need to calm yourself down, sweetie.  I'm sure you haven't done anything wrong.  Your tax people will get it all straightened out for you. 

Marilyn and Thea, that back shot is one of my all time favorites.  There's a gif out there somewhere of Clay's "back" from one of the Christmas tours.  I think it's the first one.  Black pants of perfection, dark shirt....he's walking.  OMG!  Kills me everytime I see it.  I know I have it saved to my computer at home, but I'm at work now, so I can't access it. 

Hope Clay's enjoying his vacation, relaxing at home with family and friends, and getting to do lots of things he loves.  Then he needs to get that cute, little butt back out there where it's visible to us. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on August 01, 2008, 09:15:31 AM
Glory - I just posted to you on the OCD, so I won't repeat it here.

On Photobucket, when you select your photo and go to the bottom  of the page and click on "Create a html", you are taken to a page where you are given your choice of photo sizes to post - there is one that says "create a clickable thumbnail" - highlight that one, right click to copy, bring it over to wherever  you want to post it, hit "paste' and post!


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Post by: GWENN on August 01, 2008, 09:19:57 AM
HI!!!!!!!!! :wave :wave :wave

HOME FROM THE SHORE.  WE HAD SUCH A GOOD TIME.  SWIMMING DURING THE DAY AND THE MOST FABULOUS RESTAURANT AT NIGHT.  FOLLOWED BY A GREAT BEACH BAR.  COULDN'T WALK THE BOARDWALK TOO MUCH CAUSE OF BARRY'S BACK.  AND DIDN'T STAY AT THE BEACH BAR TOO LONG CAUSE THE MUSIC HEART MY WHOLE BODY.  LOUD.  ANNOYING.  NO WONDER CLAY DOESN'T GET RADIO PLAY.  I CANNOT STAND THAT STUFF.  OMG.  BUT THE REST OF THE EVENING WAS THE BEST.  AND SHARED WITH WONDERFUL FRIENDS.

NOW I HAVE TO DO THE BILLS. 

BUT I AM PLAYING MAH JONGG LATER THIS EVENING.  SO GOOD.

GLORY--SWEETIE--YOUR PRESSURE IS UP CAUSE OF THE IRS.  YOU HAVE HAD TOO MUCH RL.  CLAY NEEDS TO COME BACK AND MAKE IT ALL BETTER.

WE HOPE.

AND CAN WE DISCUSS THAT FINE, FINE, BUTT .  AND THOSE INCREDIBLE SHOULDERS.  WOW.  NOTHING IS BETTER THAN WIDE, STRONG SHOULDERS.  WELL, ALMOST NOTHING.   :blush

BBL.  GOTTA DO THOSE BILLS.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on August 01, 2008, 10:01:52 AM



                                       WELL JUST GOT BACK FROM MY DOCS SAID IT WAS 132/88  I NEED TO LIMIT STRESS, :roflmao

                                    WENT TO THE TAX LADY TOLD ME NOT TO WORRY IT WOULD BE ALRIGHT. FUNNY. I GOT BACK FROM HER OFFICE YESTERDAY FELT LIKE I WAS GONNA EXPLODE, SO I AM TRYING TO NOT GET STESSED  JUST CAN'T DEAL WITH STUFF THE WAY I USED TO. :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on August 01, 2008, 10:33:12 AM



                                       WELL JUST GOT BACK FROM MY DOCS SAID IT WAS 132/88  I NEED TO LIMIT STRESS, :roflmao

                                    WENT TO THE TAX LADY TOLD ME NOT TO WORRY IT WOULD BE ALRIGHT. FUNNY. I GOT BACK FROM HER OFFICE YESTERDAY FELT LIKE I WAS GONNA EXPLODE, SO I AM TRYING TO NOT GET STESSED  JUST CAN'T DEAL WITH STUFF THE WAY I USED TO. :para

Aw, sweetie- just keep calm-come here and chat and we will calm you down with pics of Clays butt or the pants of perfection views.
On second thought, that might raise your blood pressure. How about a pic of Constantines armpit?   :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on August 01, 2008, 10:57:06 AM



                             DON'T WANT CONSTANTINES ARMPIT :lol THE MAN DOES NOTHING FOR ME. I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE CLAY'S BUTT.

                              WELL OFF TO WATCH A MOVIE AND DESTRESS. CLAYS TUSHY CAN APPEAR AFTER MY REST.PLEASE.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on August 01, 2008, 01:36:03 PM
WELL, GEE A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS WENT ON TODAY.   :bigsmile :wink

STOPPING BY TO SAY HELLO.  OFF TO MAH JONGG.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on August 01, 2008, 02:02:06 PM
GLORY  I'M PRAYING YOU WILL BE SURROUNDED BY SUPERNATURAL PEACE!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on August 01, 2008, 03:06:32 PM



                                    GWENN EXPLAIN WHAT WENT ON TODAY I SAW THAT SMILE. :lol

             WELL JUST GOT BACK FROM DINNER WITH FRIENDS I AM EXHAUSTED WHAT A DAY. :lol DON'T KNOW WHY THINGS GET TO ME SO BAD ANYMORE. AFTER RASING THREE KIDS BY MYSELF YOU'D THINK NOTHING COULD PHASE ME. :roflmao

                              WELL TTYL.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: HavinaClayAffair on August 01, 2008, 03:23:26 PM
Just popping in...not quite Clay related but a good guy just the same..

Have you heard Davis Archuletas new Single Release "Crush"..
Pretty darn good, nice lyrics, age appropriate.

Good for him! Wish him much success!

http://z100.elvisduran.com/pages/news/davidarchuleta/crush.html

Lora


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on August 01, 2008, 03:42:15 PM
I haven't read back today - have been sitting at the house in 105 temps  (No air conditioner there) waiting for workmen to show up - some did (10 hours late), some didn't.

Clay's Somalia trip has FINALLY made a magazine   :jaw - O.K. 8/11/08 - issue. When (if) I cool off, I will get a photo in the magazine thread, unless someone as already done so! 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: PHILLYLUVSCLAY on August 01, 2008, 05:33:30 PM
Lora,

After listening to David's new song, I'm more than convince that "Fallling" would be the right song for the radio.  Now, if only rca would take the lead.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayharmony on August 01, 2008, 08:09:16 PM
Hi peoples... :wave

I was out visiting my cousin most of the day yesterday.  She lives in Canyon Country...a little west and about an hour north of here.  I found out it is a relatively quick juant (in CA terms) to drive from her house to the ocean...in Ventura...just about 1/2 hour south of Santa Barbara.  What fun it was to spend a lovely day strolling along side the water...many boats docked around where we were.  It was wonderful to be away from the 'suburban atmosphere' where I live...we drove through a part that wasn't all that populated...it reminded me of when I was a little girl, and southern california was a bloom in many places with orange groves, strawberry fields.  ...some nostalgia...memories of a simpler, peaceful time...at least during my childhood.

Just before returning home, my cousin got out her mah jongg set...an antique one...she compared the game a bit to gin rummy...and it surely looks like fun. 

Tonight I'm packing again...a quick trip up north to surprise my brother who lives in Los Altos...just about an hour south of San Fran...his 60th birthday...it will also be a family reunion...which we've not had since my father passed away...last time we were together was for my nephew's wedding...about three years ago...this should be such great fun.

Glory...may the peace of  Clay...or shall I say may a piece of Clay...bring you into a blissful state...  :blush  ...  :lol ...really, dear mighty one...I hope you are beyond on the strife... I know what it is like to live with relentless yuck for a while...and I hope this period finally passes you by like it just did for me.

fhmmany2  

 "have been sitting at the house in 105 temps  (No air conditioner there) waiting for workmen to show up - some did (10 hours late),"   

Oh my!...that is beyond hot...you know I survived the NC heat with the misty mate that Pamela first describe here...it sprays ice water...I hope you it is cooler for you now!  :hugg
 
 Clay content...  :music :music "I like big cute butts!"  :music :music
That pic about did me in!  :naughty  :thud  


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on August 01, 2008, 08:24:10 PM
Johanna - if mah jongg is like gin rummy, it will be a lot of fun - good luck learning it - I have never known anyone who played the game, but it sounds like fun!  We all (husband, kids, and me) had to adjust to living in the heat hand humidity of Louisiana - for several months it was hard to breath after we moved here! But now it just seems natural.

Hope Clay is stil enjoying his summer "off". Hope he knows that we miss him,and looking forward to the next Tour!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on August 01, 2008, 08:25:47 PM
Hi peoples... :wave

I was out visiting my cousin most of the day yesterday.  She lives in Canyon Country...a little west and about an hour north of here.  I found out it is a relatively quick juant (in CA terms) to drive from her house to the ocean...in Ventura...just about 1/2 hour south of Santa Barbara.  What fun it was to spend a lovely day strolling along side the water...many boats docked around where we were.  It was wonderful to be away from the 'suburban atmosphere' where I live...we drove through a part that wasn't all that populated...it reminded me of when I was a little girl, and southern california was a bloom in many places with orange groves, strawberry fields.  ...some nostalgia...memories of a simpler, peaceful time...at least during my childhood.

Just before returning home, my cousin got out her mah jongg set...an antique one...she compared the game a bit to gin rummy...and it surely looks like fun. 

Tonight I'm packing again...a quick trip up north to surprise my brother who lives in Los Altos...just about an hour south of San Fran...his 60th birthday...it will also be a family reunion...which we've not had since my father passed away...last time we were together was for my nephew's wedding...about three years ago...this should be such great fun.

Glory...may the peace of  Clay...or shall I say may a piece of Clay...bring you into a blissful state...  :blush  ...  :lol ...really, dear mighty one...I hope you are beyond on the strife... I know what it is like to live with relentless yuck for a while...and I hope this period finally passes you by like it just did for me.

fhmmany2  

 "have been sitting at the house in 105 temps  (No air conditioner there) waiting for workmen to show up - some did (10 hours late),"   

Oh my!...that is beyond hot...you know I survived the NC heat with the misty mate that Pamela first describe here...it sprays ice water...I hope you it is cooler for you now!  :hugg
 
 Clay content...  :music :music "I like big cute butts!"  :music :music
That pic about did me in!  :naughty  :thud  


 :wave  Hi all!  I just came back from Mamma Mia. That really cheered me up. So glad I went. I hate to admit I use to live near Canyon country. My husband had a house in Newhall. Yes I drove to Hollywood everyday from there! Kinda far but it was worth it. We eventually moved to Diamond Bar. Ironically, DBAr is only 3 miles from where the earthquake was this week. Anyway just wanted to say hello.

Clay content: Does anyone know Jaymes exact birthday? I know it's March 1958 but nothing else. Reason I ask is that I have friend who's an astrologer. Would be fun to check her out!

Happy weekend everyone. I will be "older than dirt" on Sunday.  :roflmao

Better to think back to last year when I was at the Clay concert at Pala! What a night!  :thud


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on August 01, 2008, 08:40:36 PM
Shelley,  Happy Birthhday early, you can't be any older than me, but I guess we better be glad to be on this side of the dirt.    :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on August 01, 2008, 08:50:21 PM
Frankie ~ Where do you live in Lousiana?...When my D/H was in the military he was stationed at Ft. Polk, and we lived in De Ridder..My son was born at Ft Polk.   I agree with you about the heat ..it took a while getting use to it...but we loved it there ,and have wonderful memories.

Our first Christmas there it was 80, which was really strange ,since we are both cold region people in the winter(not anymore though,since we moved to NC from WV)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on August 01, 2008, 09:02:18 PM
Shelley,  Happy Birthhday early, you can't be any older than me, but I guess we better be glad to be on this side of the dirt.    :bigsmile

Thanks Mimi!   :clap  You're right about that. As Clay would say "breathe for me honey!"


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on August 02, 2008, 04:34:29 AM
 :wave

Happy Saturday!

mimi - I sent a p.m. to you - I live about 35 miles from Ft. Polk - wish you were still here - it would be great to have another Clay fan living so close!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claymate27 on August 02, 2008, 05:50:49 AM
 :wave

Happy Saturday All...I missed not being here yesterday...had computer issues.... :para

Glad to be back....laundry awaits...


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on August 02, 2008, 05:55:04 AM



                                             JOHANNA SMUTED :roflmao AND I MISSED IT. I WOULD GLADLY TAKE A PEICE OF CLAY. :lol OR ALL OF CLAY.

                                            I HOPE HE KNOWS HOW MUCH HE IS MISSED AND LOVED FRANKIE. :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on August 02, 2008, 05:58:34 AM
luluasst -- I'm clueless about using the internet, but someone can probably look this up.  There's an obituary for Jaymes' mother, Eleanor May Vantreight Foster, that you can find by looking up Colleen Jaymes Foster (not Eileen, as one web site had it).  Jaymes is one of seven children, six girls and one boy.  Her mother lived to be 88 1/2 (if I've done the math right), and lived independently in her own home and continued to drive until she passed away.  This genetic youthfulness may very well have passed on to her fortunate (in more ways than one) daughter Jaymes.  The site that had claimed Jaymes had changed her name from Eileen to Jaymes, for her father after he died, may be worng on that too -- as Jaymes's father's (first name, at least) was Maurice.

Have a great day everyone!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayfannj on August 02, 2008, 06:12:08 AM
Shelley, My friends mentioned seeing Mamma Mia today as well.. I usually spend Sat. walking by the shore but this cough that is remaining from my trip to Ca.. just won't leave and I don't think a 3mile hike is a good idea with compromised lung power...!!!

Mamma Mia might do fine...

I never told you about the Clay conversion that I experienced.

My brother and his family live a "purist" life up  8,000 feet on a mountain in the San Bernadino range. No TV..No Radio...Lots of BOOKS.....

I saw my niece who I haven't seen in about 5 years.. Anyway...What a discovery...She has developed into a lovely 19 year old with a voice like an angel..They  did a demo for her that just left my mouth open to the floor.. She is doing nothing with it.. You who know me know that just ain't my style....!!Anyway WHO did I tell them about????


 :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile    Well just GUESS!!!!! :lol


I pulled out my "CLAY AIKEN OFC MEMBERSHIP CARD", and my jingly key rings and began!!!!!


Forget that...All I needed to do was play... "The REAL ME"...(God Bless the WIRELESS INTERNET!!)

Then we went on to "Lover All ALONE."

All I can tell you is that THE WHOLE REST OF THE NIGHT she was in her room playing him over and over and over again..I heard these sweet sounds coming from there as she was singing all the beautiful nuances only another music lover could appreciate..

She was sold...
So.. the upshot is...

I got her a ticket and she is coming out next week and she and I are going to the American Idol Auditions on the 17-19 in N.J. My kids and their significant others are on board and "UBER EXCITED!!"

I've also got tix for us all for THE LION KING...She has NEVER seen ashow nor a live concert!!!

As for my newly converted Clay Family..  


He is wonderful..His voice is amazing..(Mind you my brother has a Master's in Fine Music and plays piano, spanish guitar, electric guitar. He has written his own method book and taught college guitar as well.)

I went yesterday to buy Clay's CD (and perhaps the others as well to send them....

I went to TARGET....

NADA!!!  NADA!!!NADA!!!  All of Clay's CD's have been pulled....NOTHING AT ALL THERE!!!


Tell me.. how does one CONTINUE to sell  (even slowly) when there is NOTHING to BUY????


I was   so saddened...

I'lll let you know what happens and if we get to a pt where we need support..Right now we are just about making a memory.....AND opening up a window to the world....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayfannj on August 02, 2008, 06:38:40 AM
I just read this in an article about Edwards....

It might have  some meaning for us in terms of understanding family law in Calif. and whether or not we will have a definite answer in Aug about IIT or IINT..

Scroll please if it offends your sensibilities...I just  like to have all the knowledge I can gather..


Asked Thursday why no father was listed on the birth certificate, Hunter's attorney, Robert Gordon of New York, said, “A lot of women do that.”

Gordon declined to comment further.

With unmarried couples, California law requires both parents to sign a “Declaration of Paternity” form prior to the father's name being put on the birth certificate. If the father is not present, his name may be added to the birth certificate at a later date after proper forms are obtained from the Department of Vital Records.



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayfannj on August 02, 2008, 06:46:45 AM
He may wait....j/s


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on August 02, 2008, 08:26:07 AM
MORNING--

I SEE NOTHING MUCH IS GOING ON HERE.  THERE ARE SOME RATHER LOVELY PIX TO LOOK AT AT THE CH IF YOU ARE SO INCLINED.

LOOKING FORWARD TO FINISHING MY BOOK TODAY AND COMPANY TONIGHT.  THEN TOMORROW, INTO NYC TO SEE MICHELLE, MARILYN, AND MY DEAR MARION.  WHAT A GREAT DAY TO LOOK FORWARD TO.  IT WILL FEEL INCREDIBLY WEIRD TO WALK BY THE SHUBERT.  JUST WEIRD.

ANYWAY, JUST SAYING HELLO AND OFF TO EAT SOME BREAKFAST.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on August 02, 2008, 09:18:47 AM
luluasst -- I'm clueless about using the internet, but someone can probably look this up.  There's an obituary for Jaymes' mother, Eleanor May Vantreight Foster, that you can find by looking up Colleen Jaymes Foster (not Eileen, as one web site had it).  Jaymes is one of seven children, six girls and one boy.  Her mother lived to be 88 1/2 (if I've done the math right), and lived independently in her own home and continued to drive until she passed away.  This genetic youthfulness may very well have passed on to her fortunate (in more ways than one) daughter Jaymes.  The site that had claimed Jaymes had changed her name from Eileen to Jaymes, for her father after he died, may be worng on that too -- as Jaymes's father's (first name, at least) was Maurice.

Have a great day everyone!
Thanks Mainer. I will try that route. I knew her real name but never thought to google it - duh. Thanks!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on August 02, 2008, 09:22:33 AM
Shelley, My friends mentioned seeing Mamma Mia today as well.. I usually spend Sat. walking by the shore but this cough that is remaining from my trip to Ca.. just won't leave and I don't think a 3mile hike is a good idea with compromised lung power...!!!

Mamma Mia might do fine...

I never told you about the Clay conversion that I experienced.

My brother and his family live a "purist" life up  8,000 feet on a mountain in the San Bernadino range. No TV..No Radio...Lots of BOOKS.....

I saw my niece who I haven't seen in about 5 years.. Anyway...What a discovery...She has developed into a lovely 19 year old with a voice like an angel..They  did a demo for her that just left my mouth open to the floor.. She is doing nothing with it.. You who know me know that just ain't my style....!!Anyway WHO did I tell them about????


 :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile    Well just GUESS!!!!! :lol


I pulled out my "CLAY AIKEN OFC MEMBERSHIP CARD", and my jingly key rings and began!!!!!


Forget that...All I needed to do was play... "The REAL ME"...(God Bless the WIRELESS INTERNET!!)

Then we went on to "Lover All ALONE."

All I can tell you is that THE WHOLE REST OF THE NIGHT she was in her room playing him over and over and over again..I heard these sweet sounds coming from there as she was singing all the beautiful nuances only another music lover could appreciate..

She was sold...
So.. the upshot is...

I got her a ticket and she is coming out next week and she and I are going to the American Idol Auditions on the 17-19 in N.J. My kids and their significant others are on board and "UBER EXCITED!!"

I've also got tix for us all for THE LION KING...She has NEVER seen ashow nor a live concert!!!

As for my newly converted Clay Family.. 


He is wonderful..His voice is amazing..(Mind you my brother has a Master's in Fine Music and plays piano, spanish guitar, electric guitar. He has written his own method book and taught college guitar as well.)

I went yesterday to buy Clay's CD (and perhaps the others as well to send them....

I went to TARGET....

NADA!!!  NADA!!!NADA!!!  All of Clay's CD's have been pulled....NOTHING AT ALL THERE!!!


Tell me.. how does one CONTINUE to sell  (even slowly) when there is NOTHING to BUY????


I was   so saddened...

I'lll let you know what happens and if we get to a pt where we need support..Right now we are just about making a memory.....AND opening up a window to the world....

 :clap  Good for you!!! I was a professional singer, vocal coach and HS music teacher once upon a time so when I first heard Clay I knew he was the real deal. "Opening a window to the world" - absolutely.  Like Clay, I was a shy red headed picked on kid, and music changed my life. Let us know what happens for your niece!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on August 02, 2008, 04:25:30 PM



                                    HELLO ANYBODY HOME  NO POST SINCE THIS MORNING , EVERYBODY POOPED BUT FROM WHAT.

                                   I MISS CLAY.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on August 02, 2008, 05:11:18 PM


Glory -- I am very pooped from an extremely hectic week at work


BUT, I'm not too pooped to also miss Clay.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on August 02, 2008, 06:11:45 PM
I MISS CLAY TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on August 02, 2008, 06:52:52 PM
Me, too! Just back to the office from the house  (we predict we will be living at the office for at least another week) - heat index at 7:00 p.m. was 117  :help - we are trying to keep plants alive by watering every evening, but it is not working well. Don't know why we are having this heat wave   :dunno - can't be caused by Clay (although he can be pretty hot   :flame even when he is in hiding!)  :wink  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on August 02, 2008, 09:57:42 PM
Hey folks!!I don't know, this Clay drought has me cleaning out my pantry today because I just couldnt stand it any more-took me HOURS!!

And now I have to go to bed, because tomorrow I get to spend time with Gwenn and Marion, and we will be meeting Michelle WOO HOO!!

Wonder what we will find to talk about?   :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: LuvMyClay on August 02, 2008, 11:28:13 PM
Hey folks!!I don't know, this Clay drought has me cleaning out my pantry today because I just couldnt stand it any more-took me HOURS!!

And now I have to go to bed, because tomorrow I get to spend time with Gwenn and Marion, and we will be meeting Michelle WOO HOO!!

Wonder what we will find to talk about?   :lol

Not much.  Sorry, I just couldn't resist. 

Have fun you guys.  :wave


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on August 03, 2008, 12:06:20 AM
I was at work.  :para Bleh. But it helps the Clay fund!  :shappy

I was cleaning around my computer desk and I came across my VIP bracelet from Jimmy Kimmel.  :bigsmile Boy did Johanna, Beverly and I have fun during that adventure!  :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on August 03, 2008, 06:17:38 AM
Marion, what a wonderful story about your family!  Your neice sounds like a lovely young lady, and I wish her the best of luck at the AI auditions.  For sure I'll be rooting for her if she's put through.  I hope you've warned her about the "three stooges".  Interesting about the paternity on birth certificates and Calif. law.  I think Jaymes may be having her baby in Vancouver.  She is Canadian, and may want her child born there.  But.....what do I know?  She may even be having it in NC (IIT).  More private than LA, I would think.  Less of those pesky photographers.  Guess I'd better not miss an episode of The Insider and Entertainment Tonight this month, as I imagine that's how we'll hear about the baby.

All those going to NYC today, have fun!  Wish I was going.   :cry


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: clayfannj on August 03, 2008, 08:14:21 AM
Quote
Less of those pesky photographers.  Guess I'd better not miss an episode of The Insider and Entertainment Tonight this month, as I imagine that's how we'll hear about the baby.


Hey, Micki!!!  Thanks for all...


As for PHOTOS.. It seems the CHOICE "DU JOUR"  for the celebs seems to be to negotiate an obscene fee from a mag rag for a peek at the little bundle and then donate it to a charity.....

That's up to CLAY and TW!!!(That Woman! :bigsmile).....IIT.....

I see both sides of the choice and have not quite decided which way I would go..Glad I don't have to make the decision....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Jan on August 03, 2008, 09:50:06 AM
HI

JUST POPPING IN TO SAY HELLO, BEFORE MY LAPTOP DECIDES IT WANTS TO CALL IT QUITS. HAVE LOST 3 POSTS SO FAR :bang :bang

HAVE NOT DESERTED YOU, JUST DARN BUSY. BUT I DO LOVE WHAT I AM BUSY AT.(GOOD GRAMMER)

CLAY WAS SO FUNNY IN SPAMALOT. HE IS MEANT FOR BROADWAY. AND WHAT A WONDER VENUE FOR OTHERS TO FIND HIM BESIDES CLAY NATION.

HAVE A GREAT SUNDAY
SON IS COMING OVER. HUBBY IS COOKING HIS VERY DELLICIOUS STEW AND I AM DOING NOTHING!!!!!!! LATER ON WE THREE WILL WATCH A NETFLEX THAT SON BRINGS OVER. HE USUALLY SURPRISES US WITH A GOOD FILM.

BYE NOW

SPECIAL LOVE TO MAH SISTAH, THEA :hugg

JAN/JEANNE


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on August 03, 2008, 10:33:25 AM
Hi ladies!

I haven't been posting much the past couple of days because I seem to be coming down with some sort of upper respiratory infection.  Not good timing at all.   :bang

Quote
That's up to CLAY and TW!!!(That Woman! ).....IIT.....
:lol MARION.  I love referring to you-know-who as TW.  Although I prefer to think of her as TOW (The other woman) in Clay's life.  He's certainly been neglecting his harem of us "other women"  these days, hasn't he?   :hypno

Glad some of you got together in the city!  Did you see a Broadway play?  Do lunch?  Lech giggle over cocktails?  Was the Michelle you were referring to our Michelle/Moonshot?  Questions, questions!

JEANNE, have  a good day lounging around.  Hubby's stew sounds delish!!!  Love ya too, BTW!  :hugg :hugg

Off to take a long snooze.  I've turned off the AC because I have the chills.  Hopefully I can get this bug out of my system SOON!   

Happy Birthday, SHELLEY.  I'm going to try to make it over to your Birthday Thread later today.   :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Jan on August 03, 2008, 12:48:22 PM
THEA

STAY WELL :hugg
BUG TOO CLOSE TO VACATION TIME, SPECIAL PRAYERS FOR YOU

LUV
JAN/JEANNE


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on August 03, 2008, 04:12:03 PM

Happy Birthday, SHELLEY.  I'm going to try to make it over to your Birthday Thread later today.   :hugg
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Ah thanks my dear!  :love

Spent the day walking my a** off for hours at the San Diego Wild Animal Park,. A fabulous place that I almost never go to. We in SD are terrible about enjoying our own backyard. It was ONLY 102 degrees in the shade. But what the heck!!

GWENN: I know you're out partying early but HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU TOO!

Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on August 03, 2008, 04:20:46 PM
Shelley~ Hope you are having a wonderful day...Happy Birthday..Heres you a present tied up with a pretty red

bow    :package

Marlene




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on August 03, 2008, 04:48:55 PM
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Spent the day walking my a** off for hours at the San Diego Wild Animal Park,. A fabulous place that I almost never go to. We in SD are terrible about enjoying our own backyard. It was ONLY 102 degrees in the shade. But what the heck!!


SHELLEY, what a great way to spend your birthday!  Many years ago Phil and I took the boys to California on vacation. One of our favorite destinations was the San Diego Wild Animal Park!!!!   I remember taking a little train all around the place.....you were brave to walk in the heat!!!  :fan2

Well now, I can't think of any Clay Content to post today.  So I'll simply put out the question to all of you:  Is there anything new in our Clay world???  :dunno


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on August 03, 2008, 05:29:30 PM
Thea~ Nothing new that I know about,I'm sorry to report.

I just know I am missing him badly..Where is he anyway, inquiring people NEED to know?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on August 03, 2008, 06:02:44 PM




                                     I MISS HIM TO.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on August 03, 2008, 06:50:21 PM
Shelley~ Hope you are having a wonderful day...Happy Birthday..Heres you a present tied up with a pretty red

bow    :package

Marlene



Ah! For Me?You shouldn't have! But ...em, I accept your gift!!!! Have to go now................. :yum


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on August 03, 2008, 06:51:55 PM
 :wave

Still can't imagine why Clay has not come out of hiding to say a quick Hello (we all know how he loves to talk!  :lol )

There is a tropical storm in the Gulf headed straight for daughter Amy and dudley - prayers for everyone in south Louisiana and Texas. (Amy and family will be fine - they've already called to say they will get themselves up here if things get bad - we'll know by Tuesday). Hope it doesn't develop into a hurricane.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on August 03, 2008, 06:52:40 PM

SHELLEY, what a great way to spend your birthday!  Many years ago Phil and I took the boys to California on vacation. One of our favorite destinations was the San Diego Wild Animal Park!!!!   I remember taking a little train all around the place.....you were brave to walk in the heat!!!  :fan2


It was actually nice. I need to get out more!!!! I spend all day at a desk usually. Thanks for the FAN! :fan2
Shelley
PS  Off to see Swing Vote...hope it's good!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on August 03, 2008, 07:48:08 PM

Well now, I can't think of any Clay Content to post today.  So I'll simply put out the question to all of you:  Is there anything new in our Clay world???  :dunno

MAYBE A HURRICANE.....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on August 04, 2008, 05:56:52 AM


                           WHERE IS EVERYBODY.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on August 04, 2008, 06:44:27 AM
Hi Glory~ It sure is quiet.  I just wanted to check and see if by chance, there may be some CLAY news..Guess not!! 

 I'm on vacation ,so I'm going to go find some "vacation stuff "to do :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on August 04, 2008, 06:48:40 AM
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WHERE IS EVERYBODY.

Just busy with RL these days.  I wish I had more time to spend here, though.  Thanks for holding down the fort, GLORY!   :hugg

MIMI, enjoy your vacation!!!

LINDA, we're hoping and praying the hurricane doesn't affect you and/or FRANKIE to0 seriously.

CLAY CONTENT!:  OK, vacation's over for you, Clay.  Come on back to us!!!  :para


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on August 04, 2008, 07:33:12 AM
Glory~ Don't feel like you have to apologize for feeling the way you do....you don't have to

 worry about any tomatoes from me...I think a lot of us are frustrated ,and don't

understand what is presently going on..( the silence is killing me)  My biggest concern ,and

I've said this often, is that I don't understand how an artist can release an album and then

drop out of the public eye for such a long time...but what do I know..apparently NOTHING!

Now there's an idea of how to spend my vacation...GO ON A CLAY SEARCH!!! :bigsmile






Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claymate27 on August 04, 2008, 07:45:29 AM
 :wave

Happy Monday.....in honor on friendship,which was yesterday... :bouncy


(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff188/lennonclayton/friends/friends-7.jpg) :lmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on August 04, 2008, 07:49:56 AM
GLORY
I'VE HAD THAT "GUT" FEELING FOR QUITE AWHILE...I STILL HAVE IT.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on August 04, 2008, 07:50:55 AM
Lennon ~That is so cute and so true.

Marlene(mimi)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on August 04, 2008, 08:06:09 AM
No tomatoes from me.  Clay's silence is deafening.  A few words right now would go a long way. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on August 04, 2008, 08:10:51 AM
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on August 04, 2008, 08:28:04 AM



                                AMEN FROM ME TO. HE HAS A LOT AT STAKE WITHOUT HIS CELEBRITY WHAT HAPPENS TO UNICEF AND HIS FOUNDATION, UNLESS HE IS THINKING ABOUT GOING FULL TIME WITH IT.

                            ALL I KNOW IS I MISS HIM. SELFISH I GUESS. I REALLY THINK IF THE BABY NEWS HAD NOT BEEN BROKEN HE WOULD HAVE SPOKEN TO US. BUT THE OFC WAS VERY NASTY I KNOW IT HURT ME I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW HE FELT.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on August 04, 2008, 08:35:25 AM
GLORY
AGAIN WE SEEM TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE.  I TOO THINK HE'S CHANGING HIS DIRECTION..PERHAPS FOUNDATION...MUCH MORE TIME FOR UN WORK.  I THINK MORE BIG STUFF COMING. IMHO.  DO YOU KNOW IF HE THANKED EVERYONE FOR THE DONATIONS TO SOMALIA?   DOESN'T HE USUALLY THANK THE FANS FOR THEIR OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT?


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on August 04, 2008, 09:14:47 AM
Mimi2, as far as I know, there was no personal thank you from Clay.  I did received a general thank you from Unicef via email for my two donations. 

I would hope that Clay realizes that the OFC doesn't speak for all fans.  The actions of a few should not represent the fanbase as a whole.  Again, a few words would mean alot.

I hope he's enjoying his vacation (rest), and pray that he'll be with us again soon.   But, if that is not his plan, I hope he lets us know. 


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Clanderson on August 04, 2008, 09:31:38 AM
This is from the prospective of a casual (non-internet) fan, my daughter.  She wasn't as shocked as some of us about the baby story, but has asked me several times if the fan message boards had heard from him. When I told her no, not a word, she was quite horrified. She said much the same as Glory, that we had all invested a lot of time and money in supporting his career and his charities and he should at least acknowledge our concern for his well-being. Mind you she went as far as to say we should boycott his next appearance and I do not agree with that. I feel we should respect him enough to give him this time to relax and settle whatever he has going in his private life without us demanding any explanation.
Just a look at a casual fans thought on this. YYMV.
Bev


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on August 04, 2008, 09:33:54 AM
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Mind you she went as far as to say we should boycott his next appearance and I do not agree with that.

Oh, I dunno... I think that's a pretty good way to get a point across. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on August 04, 2008, 09:41:34 AM


                         WELCOME BACK SUNNY WHERE YA BEEN  :bigsmile

                                 I DON'T WANT A LONG BLOG JUST A HI I'M GOOD DOING GREAT WOULD BE SUFFIENT. I DON'T WANT A EXPLAINATION EITHER NON OF MY BUSINESS, JUST A WORD WOULD BE NICE.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on August 04, 2008, 10:52:37 AM

                         WELCOME BACK SUNNY WHERE YA BEEN  :bigsmile

I've been layin' low. :slick


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                                 I DON'T WANT A LONG BLOG JUST A HI I'M GOOD DOING GREAT WOULD BE SUFFIENT. I DON'T WANT A EXPLAINATION EITHER NON OF MY BUSINESS, JUST A WORD WOULD BE NICE.

Yeah, but if he did that, there are all those people who would complain, "Why didn't he write more? He's been out of touch for so long, he should have told us MORE!! We want to know what he's doing, what he's working on, if there's gonna be a tour, and oh yeah--what's this about a baby??"

Like he said, he can't please everyone, so he's gonna do what he wants.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on August 04, 2008, 11:09:52 AM
I think that the biggest thing that might be coming along soon may be a birth announcement -- maybe something more, also of a personal nature; and I think that the wisest course for Clay is to keep mum for now,  until the moment arrives.  I don't think that Clay is, for a single minute, disrespectful or unmindful of his fans -- he gives much to his fans, he may have rushed out On My Way Here in part to tide his fans over, and we need to give to him in return.  Let's give him what he has asked for -- a vacation.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on August 04, 2008, 11:14:33 AM
I don't think it's a question of fans "giving" him or "not giving" him anything. The fans can ask, beg, and demand all they want to. Clay wants time out of the spotlight, so he's taking it. Period.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: vikipace on August 04, 2008, 11:19:36 AM
Im a new fan and i feel tht clay is preparing 4 something big
a big change.
he wuz all ova the place untill june, but he tried so hard 2 disappear
y not just release a statement or do some exclusive interview


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on August 04, 2008, 11:43:43 AM
Sundancer -- exactly!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Beth on August 04, 2008, 11:52:07 AM
All I can say is that I'm trying very hard not to get involved in Clay's personal life.  He doesn't want me there, so I'm not welcome to know anything that he's not willing to share.

When I was a teenager, if someone only released an album once every four years, that's what I got and had no choice.

Clay spoils us rotten.    


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on August 04, 2008, 12:25:24 PM


                        OK SO CLAY OWES ME NOTHING DID NOT MEAN TO IMPLY HE DOES THE CLAYNATION SEEMS A LITTLE BIT IN TURMOIL. JUST THOUGHT IF HE WOULD SAY SOMETHING IT MIGHT EASE TENSIONS, I REALIZE THAT WHATEVER HE SAYS WILL BE SCRUNTONIZED BY SOME. PERSONALLY I COULD LIVE WITH A HI. BUT THATS JUST ME EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN FILTERS.

                       OFF TO THE BANK AND VISIT WITH A FRIEND. TTYL.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on August 04, 2008, 12:30:23 PM
Bye, Glory.    :wave   Have fun visiting with your friend.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on August 04, 2008, 12:46:44 PM
We're gonna need a new thread title in a couple more pages. What are we going to call the next one? Clay, the Strong, Silent Type ? :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claymate27 on August 04, 2008, 12:54:32 PM
 :wave

Sounds like a good title to me,Sundancer.... :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Jan on August 04, 2008, 12:55:06 PM
JUST A QUIKIE

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 5 YEARS I VISITED ANOTHER CLAY FAN CLUB.
I REALLY GOT AN EARFUL. I AM GLAD I AM NOT A FRIEND OF ANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO SAID SUCH THINGS ABOUT CLAY, I THINK WHEN WE MAKE FRIENDS, WE SHOULD DO IT FOR LIFE. TAKE THE GOOD WITH THE BAD. OR WE REALLLY WERE NOT FRIENDS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I FEEL VERY SAD FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED THEIR LIVES AROUND CLAY.
 WE ALL HAVE OUR PERSONAL PROBLEMS AND I AM SURE CLAY HAS HIS AND WOULD RATHER KEEP THEM PRIVATE.
WE SHOULD RESPECT HIS WISHES AND HOPE HE COMES BACK TO US SOON.

SURE, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HEAR FROM HIM, BUT I AM SURE THERE ARE A LOT OF PRESSING THINGS THAT NEED HIS ATTENTION RIGHT NOW.

I THINK HE WILL SURFACE AND WILL SURPRISE US WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND WONDERFUJL, IF NOT, I WILL JUST KEEP ON LISTENING TO HIS MUSIC AND PRAY HIS LIFE IS GOOD.
AS GLORY SAYS
"LIFE IS GOOD" . THAT GOES FOR CLAY TOO.

I AM A FAN FOR LIFE, EVEN IF HE GOES INTO TEACHING, POLITICS, ETC.
 HE HAS GIVEN ME MUCH PLEASURE. :smile

JAN
JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on August 04, 2008, 01:17:30 PM
I think that the biggest thing that might be coming along soon may be a birth announcement -- maybe something more, also of a personal nature; and I think that the wisest course for Clay is to keep mum for now,  until the moment arrives.  I don't think that Clay is, for a single minute, disrespectful or unmindful of his fans -- he gives much to his fans, he may have rushed out On My Way Here in part to tide his fans over, and we need to give to him in return.  Let's give him what he has asked for -- a vacation.

Hear Hear. Plus don't forget right after the album came out he was headed to Somalia. What an amazing year he's had already with Spamalot, new CD and Unicef.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on August 04, 2008, 01:18:53 PM
I don't think it's a question of fans "giving" him or "not giving" him anything. The fans can ask, beg, and demand all they want to. Clay wants time out of the spotlight, so he's taking it. Period.


 :clap :clap
Luluasst


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on August 04, 2008, 01:19:50 PM
We're gonna need a new thread title in a couple more pages. What are we going to call the next one? Clay, the Strong, Silent Type ? :lol


 :roflmao  LOVE IT!!!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on August 04, 2008, 01:20:10 PM
Hi ~ This is all heresay:

I went to the beauty shop today and my beautican said, you're the one who likes Clay Aiken aren't you ? Of course, I said yes....What do you think about this thing about a baby? I explained  nothing had been confirmed, that there was a possibility that Clay might not the father. She said, well I was wondering, because my girlfriend and her husband were downtown shopping for furniture last week and as they were coming out, Clay and a black woman with a small child were going in. Her friends husband told his wife..MY Gosh,that's Clay Aiken, so she took a picture of them with her cell phone.   Of course, I asked stupid questions... did  they say how his hair looked & what was he wearing...She said that his hair was dark, and he had on a tank top...thats when I about fell out of the chair...I can't imagine Clay ever showing that much skin.....Its a good thought though.... :yum
Just thought you all would enjoy the sightning,and let you know there is hope that he is still alive & breathing.. :bigsmile

I sure am glad I decided to call and get my hair done today.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on August 04, 2008, 01:20:46 PM
SURE, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HEAR FROM HIM, BUT I AM SURE THERE ARE A LOT OF PRESSING THINGS THAT NEED HIS ATTENTION RIGHT NOW.

I THINK HE WILL SURFACE AND WILL SURPRISE US WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND WONDERFUJL, IF NOT, I WILL JUST KEEP ON LISTENING TO HIS MUSIC AND PRAY HIS LIFE IS GOOD.
AS GLORY SAYS
"LIFE IS GOOD" . THAT GOES FOR CLAY TOO.

I AM A FAN FOR LIFE, EVEN IF HE GOES INTO TEACHING, POLITICS, ETC.
 HE HAS GIVEN ME MUCH PLEASURE.

JAN
JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION.

 .


 :word  I couldn't agree more, JEANNE.  
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I THINK WHEN WE MAKE FRIENDS, WE SHOULD DO IT FOR LIFE. TAKE THE GOOD WITH THE BAD. OR WE REALLLY WERE NOT FRIENDS IN THE FIRST PLACE
:notworthy :hugg




Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on August 04, 2008, 01:22:09 PM
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She said that his hair was dark, and he had on a tank top...thats when I about fell out of the chair...I can't imagine Clay ever showing that much skin

MARLENE,  I was really believing this woman's story until the part about the tank top!!!!  :lol



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on August 04, 2008, 01:24:50 PM
I think it's interesting that the husband was the one to recognize him, rather than the wife. :wink


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on August 04, 2008, 01:29:30 PM
          Thea,

               Clay in a tank top and pigs are flying!!! Well! what next?
           
                                                                 Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ClayHeart on August 04, 2008, 01:38:48 PM
You know that's something I never really thought about.  In 5 years of on line pictures, videos, clack of all kinds, I don't think I've every seen a picture with totally bare arms.  I get the impression he's not all that thrilled with his physique.  I remember some banter at one of the concerts about someone making a fat reference to him, and he was somewhat offended, in a playful way.  Anyone have any pictures of a bare-armed Clay?

Debbie


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on August 04, 2008, 01:43:01 PM
JUST CHECKING IN.

YESTERDAY WAS JUST WONDERFUL.  WE HAD SUCH A GREAT TIME.  MARILYN, MARION, AND I WALKED ALL OVER NYC.  HOURS.  THEN WE MET MICHELLE WHO NEVER LOOKED BETTER OR HAPPIER.  SO GOOD TO SEE HER.  THEN DINNER AND LOTS OF LAUGHTER, FUN, AND LOVE.

AND CLAY TALK. :bigsmile

TODAY WAS SOMETHING ELSE.  MARION, HER DAUGHTER, ANDI WENT TO SEE A DEVELOPMENT SHE IS THINKING OF MOVING TO.  WELL, I LEFT MY MARK.  I WAS COMING DOWN A TURNED STAIR AND FELL 2 STEPS LANDING HEAD FIRST INTO  A DESK THAT DIDN'T BELONG THERE. AND IT WAS WAY TOO DARK.  WITH MY EYES, I DIDN'T SEE THE LAST STEP.  DON'T ASK.  MY LEG AND ARM ARE A MESS.  MY HEAD HAD A LUMP.  I AM ALIVE.  THANK GOD FOR MARION'S DAUGHTER WHO IS A NURSE.  SHE WAS THE BEST. GOT ME ICE.  BANDAGED MY ARM.  CLEANED ME UP.  THEY GOT ME HOME.  BARRY TOOK ME TO THE DOCTOR TO CHECK FOR A CONCUSSION.  I WILL BE SITTING WITH ICE FOR 2 DAYS AND THIS HOMEOPATHIC STUFF FOR THE SWELLING.  GOT A TETNUS SHOT.  I WILL BE HURTING REAL BAD FOR A FEW DAYS.  I HOPE MY BRAIN IS OK.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO  ME.   :bang :naughty :bigsmile

IT IS ALL CLAY'S FAULT.  IF HE WERE TOURING, I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AT THIS HOUSE.  (JUST TEASING.)

I MISS SEEING HIM SO MUCH, BUT I SAID UNCONDITIONAL 2 YEARS AGO AND I MEANT IT.  WHO KNOWS WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.

I BET THE WOMAN AND KID WITH CLAY WAS QUIANA.  MAYBE THE MAN MEANT T-SHIRT.  AIN'T NO WAY CLAY AIKEN WAS WEARING A TANK TOP.  BUT IF HE TOOK A PIC.....  MARLENE, MAKE ANOTHER PHONE CALL.  THAT WE HAVE TO SEE. :thud

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on August 04, 2008, 01:47:55 PM

   Jan,
             It"s so sad that some people on other 'fan clubs" are being so nasty. If Clay is reading these   
       things he must be thinking that is our general opinion. In his place I would be angry.
 We do not know what the real situation is and it"s not our business anyway.  If it is true he has a
    lot of things to decide upon.
                  When I have friends who maybe don"t always  do what I think is right, they are still my
     friends and I love them.
                            Whatever money I have spent on Clay I have enjoyed every minute, he has given
      me so much pleasure. You cannot live other peoples' lives.
   
                                           Watch those tomatoes!!!

                                                                 Betty

     
















Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lovinclay on August 04, 2008, 01:54:30 PM
OMG, Gwenn!  What the hell did you do??????  I hope you're okay.  Take care, sweetie! :hugg


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on August 04, 2008, 01:59:54 PM



                                     MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE KEPT MY MOUTH SHUT. :roflmao DID NOT MEAN TO COME ACROSS MEAN. OR LIKE IT WAS ANYTHING THAT ACTUALLY MATTERED CLAY WILL DO WHAT HE WANTS WHEN HE WANTS NONE OF MY BUSINESS EXCEPT I MISS HIM AND HIS BAD SELF. :roflmao LIFE IS GOOD.

                                       CAN'T SEE HIM IN PUBLIC WITH A TANK TOP. BUT MIRACLES DO HAPPEN. :lol

                               GWENN TAKE IT EASY NO MORE STEPS FOR A WHILE.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: lorilovesgolf on August 04, 2008, 02:11:17 PM
Gwenn!!

So sorry about your fall!!  Be careful woman!!!  Goodness I'll bet you are hurting right now!! 

Hello everybody else  :wave


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on August 04, 2008, 02:47:21 PM

TODAY WAS SOMETHING ELSE.  MARION, HER DAUGHTER, ANDI WENT TO SEE A DEVELOPMENT SHE IS THINKING OF MOVING TO.  WELL, I LEFT MY MARK.  I WAS COMING DOWN A TURNED STAIR AND FELL 2 STEPS LANDING HEAD FIRST INTO  A DESK THAT DIDN'T BELONG THERE. AND IT WAS WAY TOO DARK.  WITH MY EYES, I DIDN'T SEE THE LAST STEP.  DON'T ASK.  MY LEG AND ARM ARE A MESS.  MY HEAD HAD A LUMP.  I AM ALIVE.  THANK GOD FOR MARION'S DAUGHTER WHO IS A NURSE.  SHE WAS THE BEST. GOT ME ICE.  BANDAGED MY ARM.  CLEANED ME UP.  THEY GOT ME HOME.  BARRY TOOK ME TO THE DOCTOR TO CHECK FOR A CONCUSSION.  I WILL BE SITTING WITH ICE FOR 2 DAYS AND THIS HOMEOPATHIC STUFF FOR THE SWELLING.  GOT A TETNUS SHOT.  I WILL BE HURTING REAL BAD FOR A FEW DAYS.  I HOPE MY BRAIN IS OK.


GWENN


 :hypno  OUCH!  So sorry Gwenn! What a way to celebrate your birthday! Shelley


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on August 04, 2008, 03:02:44 PM
     Gwenn,
                 That sounds like a very nasty fall. it"s so frightening to fall like that. Thank goodness you
       did"nt have a concusion I"m sure it must hurt a lot. Glad you had a good time before you fell.
     
                 Sounds a bit weird to hope you had a lovely Birthday after that, but you can celebrate again
       when you feel better.
                                                      Happy Birthday.
                                                                                             Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on August 04, 2008, 03:10:11 PM
   Glory,
   There is no reason to keep your mouth shut.  We all see things in
    a different way, that"s what makes life interesting.
        I miss Clay like crazy too and would love to hear from him, but I don"t
      think it"s going to happen.
                                                     Take care,
                                                                           Betty


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on August 04, 2008, 03:13:38 PM
Called back to re-check with beautican ,same story, her girlfriend was taking care of putting their baby in its stroller, thus why she didn't spot him first...They are not fans like we are so the details aren't as important to them as it is to us...Thats all I know...she did say, he said it was a tank top. Oh, also Clay did have pants on....:bigsmile   It has been very HOT in Raleigh ,so no telling ,Clay may have decided to strip off some layers of clothing... :wink


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Post by: Sundancer on August 04, 2008, 03:14:58 PM
Good Lord, Gwenn!! :hugg

I hope you're feeling better soon. That sounds like it was some scary fall! :comfort


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Post by: mimi on August 04, 2008, 03:18:45 PM
Gwenn, Sorry to hear about your accident...am glad to hear there was no concussion..

Is your birthday today or Wednesday ???


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Post by: mimi2 on August 04, 2008, 03:38:41 PM
GWENN
  SO SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR FALL.  THAT STINKS!  FEEL BETTER FELLOW CLAYLOVER.  I KNOW WHAT WOULD MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER.  GOOD NEWS FROM MR. AIKEN!!! :)


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Post by: mainer on August 04, 2008, 03:51:24 PM
Gwenn -- so sorry that you are sore, and glad you weren't injurred any worse. 

So Birthday Girl, you could prove to have a Leo sun sign in common with a much-anticipated child, IIT!   Luluasst was trying to figure out Jaymes's (IIT) birthdate.  She's either an Aries (good with Sag) or Pisces (Pisces who are close to Aries are also often good with fire signs) -- but she sure seems like she might be an Aries to me.

Happy, in spite of the spill, Birthday to you, Gwenn -- I hope you're feeling fine soon.

I have a friend who insists that everything happens for a reason.  Maybe this is a sign that you are supposed to just relax and put your feet up and chill for a few days, and listen to Clay Aiken CDs...


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Post by: mimi on August 04, 2008, 04:00:47 PM
There's a report at CH that Broadway World, has confirmed that ,"White Christmas", will have a NYC production this year.Previews begin Nov 14 & the show will run through Jan4 at The Marquis Theatre...No word on casting yet.

Wouldn't the part played by Danny Kaye be great for our Mr Aiken?


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Post by: Sundancer on August 04, 2008, 04:23:29 PM
I have a friend who insists that everything happens for a reason.  Maybe this is a sign that you are supposed to just relax and put your feet up and chill for a few days, and listen to Clay Aiken CDs...

Ohhh, nice idea! :bigsmile

Excuse me while I go toss myself down some stairs. :wink


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Post by: mimi on August 04, 2008, 04:34:21 PM
Sunny , You are so funny..you would definetly be a challenge in a snark contest against Clay :bigsmile


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Post by: corbet on August 04, 2008, 04:53:09 PM

     
       Does anyone know who is producing "White Christmas"? Maybe it"s Mike Nichols,
      dream on !!!Clay would be a perfect Danny Kaye. Oh! I wish.
 
                                                                     Betty


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Post by: WilsonClaymate on August 04, 2008, 05:25:25 PM
Betty -- I can't remember the name of the producer of "White Christmas" but it's not Mike Nichols.   Hopefully, Mike Nichols is working on something for Clay.


Ladies -- we have something to be particularly thankful for tonight.  We may not know where Clay is but I think we are pretty sure he is not back in Somalia.  I read in the morning paper that a bomb was set off in the capital yesterday that killed 20 people -- most of them women and children.  Clay tries so very hard to make a difference and I'm sure he does in some way but that country (and a lot of others in the world) is so unstable that it breaks my heart to think about the life those children are exposed to.



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on August 04, 2008, 05:41:17 PM
re things happening for a reason, I was of course being tongue in cheek!

re White Xmas, Clay'd also be good in the headlining Bing Crosby role -- but whoever gets the Bing role might find himself always at something of a disadvantage just by virtue of not being Bing, as Crosby's is such a signature sound for the Xmas classic.  Clay sang "White Xmas", if I remember correctly, in an American Idol Xmas -- and I thought then that the problem isn't whether someone else is just as good as, but different than, Bing; but rather that no one else is exactly the same.   The Bing version is so much a part of the American vernacular.  I assume that they must have many of the parts already cast.

Re the possible, Clay in tank, sighting -- maybe he's more comfortable in a tank within the comfort of his own home town.  Maybe he was with North Carolinian (isn't she?) friend Quianna and her son, shopping for baby room furniture...  (I'm just kidding -- he was probably a Clay clone.)

WilsonClaymate -- We can all be grateful to Clay for shedding light on the plight of the kids in Somaliland -- and that he is home.


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Post by: Sundancer on August 04, 2008, 05:41:32 PM
The producer of the Broadway-bound White Christmas is Kevin McCollum.


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Post by: luluasst on August 04, 2008, 06:05:39 PM
   Luluasst was trying to figure out Jaymes's (IIT) birthdate.  She's either an Aries (good with Sag) or Pisces (Pisces who are close to Aries are also often good with fire signs) -- but she sure seems like she might be an Aries to me.


 :wave Hi Mainer. I figured Aries too but we could be wrong. Pisces LOVE animals and small kids and anything that needs hugs which is a big CA trait too so I wonder. Hmmm.  Was on google all day today and could find no date for that birthday party she had in March. Oh well.  If anyone finds anything out, let me know. I have a friend who's an amateur astrologer.  :slick


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Post by: luluasst on August 04, 2008, 06:06:43 PM
Sunny , You are so funny..you would definetly be a challenge in a snark contest against Clay :bigsmile

 :lmao


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Post by: dudley5 on August 04, 2008, 06:20:48 PM
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She said that his hair was dark, and he had on a tank top...thats when I about fell out of the chair...I can't imagine Clay ever showing that much skin

MARLENE,  I was really believing this woman's story until the part about the tank top!!!!  :lol




WORD......


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Post by: Glory on August 04, 2008, 06:48:07 PM




                              GWENN THINKING OF YOU SWEETHEART. :hugg

                I AM VERY THANKFUL CLAY IS HOME AND SAFE.  :hugg


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Post by: claydevotee on August 04, 2008, 06:49:22 PM
GWENN, 'so glad you didn't hurt yourself even worse.  :comfort Thank the good Lord for Marion's daughter with her medical training.  Also I'm glad to hear you went to the Dr. to be sure you didn't have a concussion or anything worse.  'Looks like you will be forced to sit around and do some serious Clack watching for the next week or so.  :wink

So sorry you have to deal with all of this around your birthday, but I'm glad you had the opportunity to hang out with dear friends yesterday!

We just had a severe electrical storm and tornadoes here in Northern Illinois.  As most of you know, my older son lives in Chicago just north of the downtown area and not too far from Lake Michigan.  A tornado touched down about 2 blocks away from his condo.  He was trying out his new whirlpool tub when he heard tornado sirens, so he had to jump out of the tub, put on a bathrobe and head 3 floors down to the basement.  :sonic  Luckily everybody's OK there.  

Anyway, it's very rare for a tornado to strike so close to Lake Michigan.  Scary stuff.  :para

GLORY, please never apologize for expressing your frustration about Clay's seeming "disappearance" these past months.  I hate to see you always back down after you have expressed an opinion.  Your feelings and the way you express them are valid and always worthwhile.   :hugg

clAY CONTENT:   :dust :shrug :hypno


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Post by: fhmmany2 on August 04, 2008, 07:13:01 PM
 :wave

Just a check in - a not-so-good day in Remodel World, but I will live.

Gwenn -  :hugg feel better soon.

Thea - we have been watching the weather channel and worrying about Clandy and Woody! I didn't realize your son was near the tornadoes, too. Hope everyone will be safe. Looks like daughter and family will be O.K. from the tropical storm, although she and dudley will probably gets lots of rain - hope they do not have flooding.

Glory - I still say he could easily Blog from that iphone! five minutes of his time (or less) would make all of the difference in the world to fans. But we all love his stubborn little self, so go on and live your life, Clay!  :lol :wink


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Post by: GWENN on August 04, 2008, 07:16:13 PM
THANKS FOR THE WELL WISHES.  I AM BEYOND ANNOYED.  I AM GOING TO LUNCH WITH A FRIEND TOMORROW AS LONG AS I CAN WALK.  SHE IS TAKING ME TO AN AMAZING RESTAURANT OVERLOOKING THE ART MUSEUM ON ONE SIDE AND THE RIVER ON THE OTHER.  IT IS GORGEOUS AND HAS THE BEST BLOODY MARYS.  I HAVE MY PRIORITIES STRAIGHT.  ALTHOUGH WHAT MICHELLE HAD YESTERDAY WAS FABULOUS.  SHE CAN DESCRIBE IT.  WOW.

MY FOREHEAD MAKES ME LOOK LIKE AN ALIEN.

LORD, THE WEATHER IS THE WORST NO MATTER WHERE YOU LOOK.  RIGHT NOW IT IS AMAZINGLY LOVELY HERE AND YESTERDAY IN NYC WAS ONE OF THE BEST SUMMER DAYS WE HAD ALL SEASON.  MY THOUGHTS ARE WITH YOU, LINDA, IN TEXAS.  I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO WATCH THE NEWS.  I HOPE EVERYONE IS SAFE.

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on August 04, 2008, 07:17:41 PM
I don't think it's a question of fans "giving" him or "not giving" him anything. The fans can ask, beg, and demand all they want to. Clay wants time out of the spotlight, so he's taking it. Period.

EXACTLY!

And Clay did NOT specifically ask his fans for a donation. On the UNICEF site and field notes, he asked EVERYONE to support and help Somalia. He also DID mention that at one point they had raised $50,000 and he generally thanked people then. When I made my donation, I did it BECAUSE of the awareness Clay had brought. This time, there were no "perks" of Clay if you gave a certain amount, etc. They just asked for support from people.  So I do not feel he needs to thank his fans particularly for their donations.

Everyone deserves a vacation. Although I too feel that it was ill timed due to the CD, just look at the non stop stuff he has done since last summer. He said he hadnt had two days off in a row since October. He SAID he was taking a break-that he had not spent a summer in his home. Whether it was a good career move or not remains to be seen- he must have needed the rest. Quiana specifically said he was very tired. And right after that he went to Somalia, which must have been emotionally draining.

The way the baby news was plastered all over, true or not true, must have changed some plans that were made. If it was me and I knew how things would be blown up out of context by both the media and certain fans, I would have run screaming in the opposite direction. I don't know how that man keeps coming back, with all the crap thrown at him, and all the "Clay MUST do this and Clay MUST do that  and he OWES me because I bought his album or went to his show."  Well, he shared his voice and his music and concerts and entertainment and a type of love in return. Me, I got MORE than my moneys worth. I dont call it a balance sheet at all. There are so many extra's involved away from the concerts and the albums and the Broadway shows-so many intangible gifts I have received because of Clay. And I'm "Talking" to quite a few of them right now!!

 PLEASE NOTE I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS BOARD, but certain groups in general that profess to be fans. I am so tired of the bashing and expectations that come up from some of the people who say they are die hard fans but are only looking out for him.

So there, I took off my rose colored glasses- but I STILL say -he's not going anywhere. He will be back, when he is good and ready. I don't doubt he will continue to surprise us.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on August 04, 2008, 07:19:22 PM
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Thea - we have been watching the weather channel and worrying about Clandy and Woody! I didn't realize your son was near the tornadoes, too. Hope everyone will be safe. Looks like daughter and family will be O.K. from the tropical storm, although she and dudley will probably gets lots of rain - hope they do not have flooding.

Phil and I were right in the path of the tornadoes, as well. We live about 60 miles northwest of Chicago (near the Wisconsin border).   Luckily they didn't touch down here, although we had a lot of lightening.  Poor Mimi was going nuts!  As I said earlier, it is very rare for tornadoes to touch down in downtown Chicago due to it's close proximity to the lake.  I'm so thankful my son is OK.  I must say he was quite shook up when we called him!   :lol

I've been following your weather down in LA and TX, as well.   Thank good ness the hurricanes been downgraded to a tropical storm.  

WELL NOW...CLAY CONTENT: IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE CLAY IN A TANK TOP, IF THE STORY IS TRUE!!  :lol


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Post by: dudley5 on August 04, 2008, 07:21:28 PM
GWENN  :hugg ......THOSE STAIRS CAN BE DANGEROUS BUGGERS  :wink


AND OF COURSE WE ONLY ARE WATCHING THE WEATHER CHANNEL.....I SAW WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE CHICAGO AREA......WE ARE BEING TOLD WE WILL HAVE FLOODING.....AGAIN....THE WORST FLOODING WE HAVE HAD WAS FROM A TROPICAL STORM....NOT A HURRICANE....AND WE WILL BE ON THE 'DIRTY' SIDE....WHICH MEAN LOTS OF WATER FALLING ON US....BUT WE NEED IT  AS IT'S BEEN A DRY SUMMER :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Jan on August 04, 2008, 07:23:01 PM
GWENN

CONFESSION TIME........
YOU WERE JUST CELEBRATING YOUR BIRTHDAY A LITTLE BIT TOOOOO MUCH :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile

SERIOUSLY, TAKE IT EASY NOW AND RELAX WITH CLAY.

JAN


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Post by: Marilyn on August 04, 2008, 07:26:08 PM
JUST CHECKING IN.

YESTERDAY WAS JUST WONDERFUL.  WE HAD SUCH A GREAT TIME.  MARILYN, MARION, AND I WALKED ALL OVER NYC.  HOURS.  THEN WE MET MICHELLE WHO NEVER LOOKED BETTER OR HAPPIER.  SO GOOD TO SEE HER.  THEN DINNER AND LOTS OF LAUGHTER, FUN, AND LOVE.
AND CLAY TALK. :bigsmile


It was wonderful. Thank you all three for making it a special weekend (well after I got over my allergic reaction)

Quote
I WAS COMING DOWN A TURNED STAIR AND FELL 2 STEPS LANDING HEAD FIRST INTO  A DESK THAT DIDN'T BELONG THERE.  MY LEG AND ARM ARE A MESS.  MY HEAD HAD A LUMP. 
I MISS SEEING HIM SO MUCH, BUT I SAID UNCONDITIONAL 2 YEARS AGO AND I MEANT IT. 
GWENN

OH my goodness, you poor thing!! PLEASE take care of yourself!! :hugg :hugg :hugg


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Post by: Glory on August 04, 2008, 07:31:33 PM


                               THEA HOPE YOU ARE FEELING BETTER :hugg

          I AM JUST REALLY FRUSTRATED AT THE MOMENT. LOTS OF THINGS NOT JUST CLAY. :lol OF COURSE HE DOESN'T HELP. :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on August 04, 2008, 07:32:26 PM
For those of you who are interested in BBQ, there is a good article featured at WRAL.com-Raleigh   .It is under Featured Blogs by Bill Leslie-BBQ east versus west..He basisly explains the difference in the 2, and there are lots of readers comments.


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Post by: Marilyn on August 04, 2008, 07:36:56 PM

Phil and I were right in the path of the tornadoes, as well. We live about 60 miles northwest of Chicago (near the Wisconsin border).   Luckily they didn't touch down here, although we had a lot of lightening.  Poor Mimi was going nuts!  As I said earlier, it is very rare for tornadoes to touch down in downtown Chicago due to it's close proximity to the lake.  I'm so thankful my son is OK.  I must say he was quite shook up when we called him!   :lol

I've been following your weather down in LA and TX, as well.   Thank good ness the hurricanes been downgraded to a tropical storm.  

WELL NOW...CLAY CONTENT: IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE CLAY IN A TANK TOP, IF THE STORY IS TRUE!!  :lol

Thea, for a minute I thought you meant OUR mimi!!! :wave . I am glad you are all okay.

And Clay in a tank top- I wonder if he has EVER worn one before (after reaching puberty, I mean). If its true, he must have been REALLY hot (in more ways than one)


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Post by: claydevotee on August 04, 2008, 07:37:31 PM
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I AM JUST REALLY FRUSTRATED AT THE MOMENT. LOTS OF THINGS NOT JUST CLAY.  OF COURSE HE DOESN'T HELP.


I know what you mean, GLORY!!!  :lol

MIMI, I'm still confused over the 2 different types of BBQ.  My husband talks about it all the time. :bduh  I think when I croak he'll probably look for a woman who can cook Southern dishes for him every night!!!!  :roflmao  The only BBQ I make is the pulled pork mixed with the McCormick seasoning packet!!!!  'Good enough for me!!!  :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on August 04, 2008, 07:39:29 PM


                               THEA HOPE YOU ARE FEELING BETTER :hugg

          I AM JUST REALLY FRUSTRATED AT THE MOMENT. LOTS OF THINGS NOT JUST CLAY. :lol OF COURSE HE DOESN'T HELP. :roflmao

Glory, do you need some of these?   :hugg :hugg
Never feel that you cant express an opinion- everyone has valid feelings that they need to express. You are sad- and its understandable.  Hope that sharing it with us makes it feel better.

Of course, I jumped all over EVERYONE in my post (but I did NOT mean you all here). Its just I read all over the boards and I get frustrated at the feelings of entitlement.

This too shall pass


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Post by: Glory on August 04, 2008, 07:40:21 PM
                                  I AM DONE  SO I WILL SAY GOODNIGHT THE MORE I TALK THE DEEPER IN S*** i get :roflmao


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on August 04, 2008, 07:40:41 PM
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Poor Mimi was going nuts!

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Thea, for a minute I thought you meant OUR mimi!!!  . I am glad you are all okay.

 :lmao  MARILYN!  Whoops, I forgot that we now have a MIMI 1, MIMI 2 and MIMI 3 (my dog!!!).  Anyway, I doubt that MIMI 1 would hide under a bed during an electrical storm.  Or would you, MARLENE??? :para :hypno


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Post by: mimi on August 04, 2008, 07:41:51 PM
Marilyn & Thea~ For a few minutes there I thought you were refering to me too.     :bigsmile

Marlene

No ,I wouldn't hide under the bed because I'd probably have got the" heck out of dodge", or more than likey been in the bathroom and not necessarily hiding. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on August 04, 2008, 07:48:29 PM
clAY CONTENT:   :dust :shrug :hypno

Well-said. :thumb


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on August 04, 2008, 07:50:48 PM
DOES ANYONE HAVE BARE ARMED CLAY PIC.  NOT THE ONES WHERE HE IS LITTLE :)


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on August 04, 2008, 07:51:44 PM

                                 I DON'T FEEL ENTITLED TO ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY. DID NOT MEAN IT SOUND THAT WAY.

                       DELETE IS MY BEST FRIEND I SHOULD USE IT MORE OFTEN.

                       MAYBE HE HAS HIS PHONE TURNED OFF NAH, OR HE IS IN OUTER MONGOLIA ,OR AT HOME WAITING FOR ME TO CALL.

                       MAYBE IF HAD GOTTEN TO SEE A CHRISTMAS CONCERT AND SPAMALOT I WOULD NOT FEEL SAD ITS BEEN A YEAR SINCE I HAVE SEEN HIM.

      I AM JUST RAMBLING HERE  I MISS MY MOM, NEED A JOB,MISS MY KIDS,I NEED A FACELIFT A TUMMY TUCK, NOTHING LIFE THREATING SO LIFE IS GOOD.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Marilyn on August 04, 2008, 07:59:59 PM


                                 I DON'T FEEL ENTITLED TO ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY. DID NOT MEAN IT SOUND THAT WAY.

                             THINKING ABOUT STARTING MY OWN FOUNDATION, FACE LIFTS BODY LIFT, THE WHOLE THE WHOLE SMO ANYBODY WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO A GREAT CAUSE, ME. :roflmao

                       DELETE IS MY BEST FRIEND I SHOULD USE IT MORE OFTEN.

Please do not delete anything- I love your outlook on life, you make me smile, o mighty one!!

And I can donate some poundage-have lots to contribute!


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Post by: mimi on August 04, 2008, 08:00:17 PM
Glory~ We all love you, and you should not feel that just because you tell it like it is ,that you should be sorry.

Right now a lot of us are confused & frustrated and you're brave  to stand up for how you feel...Don't ever feel you have to apologize for that.

Marlene


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Post by: mimi on August 04, 2008, 08:07:23 PM
Just check this out..... I have managed to HUNT & PECK my way to 702 posts   :purpbana   :bouncy


Pamela~ would you ever have thought it  ??


When you're on   :flame   You're on   :flame      What else can I say. :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: WilsonClaymate on August 04, 2008, 08:13:53 PM

And Clay did NOT specifically ask his fans for a donation. On the UNICEF site and field notes, he asked EVERYONE to support and help Somalia. He also DID mention that at one point they had raised $50,000 and he generally thanked people then. When I made my donation, I did it BECAUSE of the awareness Clay had brought. This time, there were no "perks" of Clay if you gave a certain amount, etc. They just asked for support from people.  So I do not feel he needs to thank his fans particularly for their donations.

Everyone deserves a vacation. Although I too feel that it was ill timed due to the CD, just look at the non stop stuff he has done since last summer. He said he hadnt had two days off in a row since October. He SAID he was taking a break-that he had not spent a summer in his home. Whether it was a good career move or not remains to be seen- he must have needed the rest. Quiana specifically said he was very tired. And right after that he went to Somalia, which must have been emotionally draining.

The way the baby news was plastered all over, true or not true, must have changed some plans that were made. If it was me and I knew how things would be blown up out of context by both the media and certain fans, I would have run screaming in the opposite direction. I don't know how that man keeps coming back, with all the crap thrown at him, and all the "Clay MUST do this and Clay MUST do that  and he OWES me because I bought his album or went to his show."  Well, he shared his voice and his music and concerts and entertainment and a type of love in return. Me, I got MORE than my moneys worth. I dont call it a balance sheet at all. There are so many extra's involved away from the concerts and the albums and the Broadway shows-so many intangible gifts I have received because of Clay. And I'm "Talking" to quite a few of them right now!!

 PLEASE NOTE I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS BOARD, but certain groups in general that profess to be fans. I am so tired of the bashing and expectations that come up from some of the people who say they are die hard fans but are only looking out for him.

So there, I took off my rose colored glasses- but I STILL say -he's not going anywhere. He will be back, when he is good and ready. I don't doubt he will continue to surprise us.


Marilyn --  :clap      :clap       :clap


Gwenn -- take care of yourself and feel better soon


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on August 04, 2008, 08:17:13 PM
So there, I took off my rose colored glasses

Maybe you can lend them to Gwenn....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: luluasst on August 04, 2008, 08:23:52 PM
So there, I took off my rose colored glasses

Maybe you can lend them to Gwenn....


Sundancer:  :notworthy  You are a Goddess!


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: KSChristian4Clay on August 04, 2008, 10:11:50 PM
Gwenn - Goodness! I'm glad you are okay.  :hugg

Marilyn - No call? :cry I waited for you.

I hope Clay is enjoying his break/vacation. It is very well deserved.

Off to catch a few hours of sleep. On my lunch break I'll be having lunch with PuddinsJoy!  :bouncy We always go out for Chinese and make our fortunes reflect back on Clay in some way.  :lol


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Post by: Marilyn on August 05, 2008, 04:15:28 AM


Marilyn - No call? :cry I waited for you.



Oh mah goodness- I was in the boss's office until 6:30-I will call you today


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi2 on August 05, 2008, 05:52:53 AM
I WANT TO SAY I'M SORRY IF IT SOUNDED LIKE I WAS JUDGING CLAY. SORRY I SEEMED NEGATIVE. I'VE HAD A VERY BAD YEAR. I DON'T THINK I CAN TAKE ANOTHER LOSE OR DISAPPOINTMENT. I'M SORRY I GUESS IT HAS COLORED EVERYTHING.  MIMI2:(


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mainer on August 05, 2008, 05:54:39 AM
A story on windows XP today tells of dozens of UCLA Hospital employees who have looked at celebrity medical records.  The period of time being investigated is through June 2006.  Perhaps UCLA has since plugged the leaks, or maybe this is just as far as they've gotten -- who knows.  This just goes to show, however, how vulnerable all patients can be -- especially celebrity patients.  I imagine this has been, and still is, a problem that probably continues to exist -- at many hospitals, fertility clinincs, and medical practices.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claymate27 on August 05, 2008, 06:58:01 AM
 :wave


Happy,Happy Tuesday...Everyone... :bigsmile


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: corbet on August 05, 2008, 07:06:06 AM
    Glory,
               I"m so sorry if you thought my post was directed to you or anyone posting
     on this board, I did"nt mean to upset anyone. Sometimes my mouth works faster
      than my brain.
      My biggest fear is Clay will say "Enough"After so many times of being asked the "G"
     question, he said he was done answering. I can"t help wondering after all the nasty
     filth  that he has endured in the last five years, if this last episode with the tabloids
     and then some of his so called fans is the last straw and he will say " I"m Done"
             I can"t imagine not having him in our lives.
                                           Sorry Glory, I know what it"s like to be lonely.

                                                                                 Hugs,
  Betty
                                                                   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Sundancer on August 05, 2008, 07:10:26 AM
Why are people apologizing for posting their opinions? Isn't that what the board is for? :scratch


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: Glory on August 05, 2008, 07:21:28 AM


                              betty  ITS NOTHING YOU SAID SWEETHEART JUST FRUSTATED I THINK.

                                 WELL JUST GOT BACK FROM THE DOC'S MY B/P IS GREAT BUT MY CHOLESTEROL IS THROUGH THE ROOF EVEN MY GOOD CHOLESTROL IS BAD.

                              CAN I BLAME CLAY. :roflmao :roflmao

                     I AM FINE TODAY CONSIDERING I HAVE TO GO ON A DIET MAYBE MEDS.TROUBLE IS I LIKE EVERYTHING THAT IS BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD FOR ME, NOT CLAY JUST FOOD. :lol


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on August 05, 2008, 07:39:11 AM
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Why are people apologizing for posting their opinions? Isn't that what the board is for?


SUNNY:   :clap  My thoughts, exactly! 



Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: GWENN on August 05, 2008, 07:39:14 AM
Why are people apologizing for posting their opinions? Isn't that what the board is for? :scratch

AMEN, SUNNY.  THAT IS WHY I STAY HERE AND CALL IT HOME.  NO ONE NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE FOR ANYTHING.  WE ALL HAVE OUR DAYS WHEN CLAY IS ANNOYING OR WE ARE DISAPPOINTED.  OR FEEL LIKE WE MISS HIM.  OR WHATEVER.  WE ALSO HAVE OUR DAYS WHEN HE MAKES US SMILE.  FEEL SMUTTY.  CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF HIS VOICE.  THIS FANDOM IS A ROLLER COASTER RIDE.  I NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, BUT IT IS.  SO, EACH OF US HAS OUR GOOD AND BAD DAYS.

AS FOR BAD DAYS, I AM THRILLED YESTERDAY IS OVER.  I AM NOT AS SWOLLEN THANKS TO THIS ARNICARE STUFF AND LOTS OF ICE.  I AM VENTURING OUT INTO PUBLIC TODAY.  I DON'T LOOK AS WONDERFUL AS I COULD, BUT CERTAINLY NOT STAREWORTHY.  SO, OFF I WILL GO AND HOPE I AM FINISHED MAKING A JACKASS OF MYSELF.

I HOPE EVERYONE IS SAFE AND WELL.

STILL WAITING, MARLENE FOR THAT PIC TO APPEAR.  THAT WOULD BE SOME BIRTHDAY GIFT. :bigsmile :bigsmile :bigsmile

GWENN


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: dudley5 on August 05, 2008, 07:42:54 AM
Why are people apologizing for posting their opinions? Isn't that what the board is for? :scratch

AMEN, SUNNY.  THAT IS WHY I STAY HERE AND CALL IT HOME.  NO ONE NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE FOR ANYTHING.  WE ALL HAVE OUR DAYS WHEN CLAY IS ANNOYING OR WE ARE DISAPPOINTED.  OR FEEL LIKE WE MISS HIM.  OR WHATEVER.  WE ALSO HAVE OUR DAYS WHEN HE MAKES US SMILE.  FEEL SMUTTY.  CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF HIS VOICE.  THIS FANDOM IS A ROLLER COASTER RIDE.  I NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, BUT IT IS.  SO, EACH OF US HAS OUR GOOD AND BAD DAYS.

GWENN

BUT THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT SO INTERESTING.....AND I THINK MAKES PEOPLE HANG AROUND WAITING TO SEE WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT....


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: mimi on August 05, 2008, 08:04:43 AM
Gwenn ~I doubt we'll ever see a picture...I don't know these people, & they sure don't know me,( the woman took it on her cellphone) I'm not calling my beautian back,after all she cuts my hair, and I'm eventually going to have to go back, so I sure don't want to experience a BAD HAIR DAY from her.  She offered to come in on Sat morning of the Gala to do my hair (it's her day off ) so I'm certainly not going to tick her off. I was just glad to have got a smiggin' of information , and I wouldn't have even gotten that ,had I not decided yesterday on a whim to get my hair cut.


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: claydevotee on August 05, 2008, 08:43:40 AM
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THIS FANDOM IS A ROLLER COASTER RIDE.  I NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, BUT IT IS.  SO, EACH OF US HAS OUR GOOD AND BAD DAYS.

GWENN
Quote
BUT THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT SO INTERESTING.....AND I THINK MAKES PEOPLE HANG AROUND WAITING TO SEE WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT....

 :lol  So true, MS LINDA!   


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: ILClaymate on August 05, 2008, 09:14:37 AM
NEW THREAD (http://www.claymaniacs.com/forums/index.php/topic,15475.0.html)

*Thanks dudley for the new thread title!*


Title: Re: CM Clay Discussion 25 :: On His Own Terms... (All Members Welcome!)
Post by: fhmmany2 on August 05, 2008, 09:21:14 AM
 :wave

I like to read other Clay opinions - don't always agree with them, but that is what is so interesting - we all love him in our own way - hope that still matters a little to him.

Mariner - I worked in medical office for 25 years. You can't help but see things about people - you have to look at the name on a test, for instance, to file it in a folder - but the key is to be a decent person who knows that privacy is important and deserved. All medical workers know things about people - most are just people who would never hurt someone by revealing anything. Privacy is much harder now, too, because of computers. Years ago, only a few trusted employees has access to records - now, if they are computer savvy enough, everyone has access.